The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guest: Steve Baker | 12/15/23
Episode Date: December 15, 2023Glenn and Stu review the latest Netflix movie produced by the Obamas. Glenn speaks with Blaze Media journalist Steve Baker about his upcoming charges and theorizes it’s retaliation for his January ...6 reporting. Glenn and Stu discuss Chris Cuomo’s strange turnaround and why he appears to have mellowed out on some of his radical leftist views. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Stu, last podcast of the year.
Yeah.
That's it.
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It could happen.
Neither of us are athletic enough to actually be skiing.
Right.
But if we are anywhere there's mountain lions, we are.
Oh, yeah.
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Okay, well, it's the last day of the year to do it for me.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
You advised me
to watch a movie on Netflix.
It was called Leave the World Behind.
Leave the World Behind.
Apparently the number one movie.
In 89 countries.
In 89 countries.
Now I didn't ask you to, because I thought,
oh, you're going to enjoy it.
I thought you would pick things out of it.
Right.
Like, here you go.
This is a...
Yeah.
something you
some lesson you take now the thing that's been
promoted widely on the conservative
side of this racist thing is there's this racist
thing there's one scene in the movie
two or the one that I've seen
promoted was a movie
a scene where
a young African American woman says you shouldn't
trust white people and this has been
tied to the fact that Barack Obama and Michelle
Obama are executive producers or producers of this
correct it's an anti-racist theme
that runs through it but that's not my problem
with this movie yeah right and that's
kind of how you sold it to me. And so, and I did watch it last night. And can I just tell you,
I, at the end of it, felt like I had wasted two and a half hours of my life that I will never,
ever get back. It was, the entire time felt like it could be a good movie. Yeah. Yeah. And then at the
end of the movie, which I will do my best not to spoil. Yeah. A little disappointed.
A little?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was, I actually like swore
against your name.
Why?
Lying in bed with my wife and I said,
that mother, this jerk made me,
I actually was wondering, it crossed my mind
whether it was a prank that you,
you were like, you gotta watch this,
and then I watched it, and then it ended like that,
it was so terrible.
And I was like, did he just screw me out of two
and a half hours intentionally?
Well, first of all,
The only one I recommended, because I thought you would enjoy, was Godzilla.
And we went to Godzilla and you liked.
I did like, yes.
This one I just wanted you to watch for work.
Right.
I know you did say that.
It was for work.
But I kind of thought that you, I thought it was going to be a good movie.
No, no, no.
That was an extra bonus for me that you would be watching it and you would be pissed off.
No, so what did you get out of this movie?
Why do you think, what is my problem with this movie?
Because it's not the white thing.
I'm so tired of it.
The white thing, yeah, the white thing just to address it,
It, the, she, the woman who's placed, the dog, her.
Okay.
Yeah.
She, um, is a black woman who is, I would say, anti-white.
Yeah.
But Julia Roberts is a racist too.
Yeah.
Julia Roberts is this is the first movie I've ever seen her where she's absolutely
unlikable.
Yeah.
Unlikeable from the beginning.
I hate people.
Yeah, she was, yeah, unlikeable from the very beginning.
Um, and she is pretty much a racist in the movie.
at least at times.
I think pretty pretty pretty pretty much the whole time.
I mean, when she comes around.
They open up the door and, you know, the this, they're renting, Julie Roberts family is renting
this house.
It's a Long Island is very expensive.
And then you see a Bentley behind these, this couple.
They ring the doorbell in the middle of the night.
And it's a black man in a tuxedo and his black daughter also dressed to the nines in the
And she, they say, yes.
What, what, what?
And, you know, like, get the baseball bat.
And, uh, he, so the, they go to the door and they said, well, we just, we've had a
problem.
And this is our house and we were wondering if we could stay in the guest house.
And Julie Roberts is like, this is your house.
Right.
Like, how could a black person own a home like this?
Oh, I mean, it's so insulting.
So, so insulting.
The black, the black white thing was.
there and it was almost like, it struck me as a way of like they're almost trying to do a both
sides thing.
Yeah.
Even though it was also very just straight out anti-racist.
Okay.
So that was part of it.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it is part of it.
But here are the things that I want you to really hear.
There's two clips that I want you to hear.
Uh, first of all, uh, clip one from yesterday, leave the world behind.
I have a friend in a cabal.
Why did you really come here?
And don't tell me it's because of your knee.
That wasn't a lie.
I didn't have any surgery.
Twisted it up pretty bad, playing ball down out of the Y.
But it's not why you came here.
Why I came here involves something that happened to me a few years back.
My clients invited me and my wife to a private event.
My client, he, well, I won't say his name, but you'd recognize it, though.
as he's celebrity.
Oh, no, nothing like that.
But in the business world, he's one of the biggest out there.
He deals mostly in defense contracting.
I'm talking hush, hush, top secret money from the Pentagon.
Perhaps the most powerful person I've ever had a meal with.
Anyway, we are at this soire at his house.
It's getting late.
My wife, she wants to go.
But he and I are just having a blast.
And he doesn't want the night to end.
And after a few more glares, my wife agrees to take a cab, and I'll come home after.
I bet she was real happy about that.
Mm-hmm.
So we're having a few more drinks, getting really sauce, and at one point, I don't think he could stand, and I was pretty wobbly myself.
I wouldn't know anything about that, sir.
So he takes me to a study, smoke a few cigars, and we're sort of...
Flying high, laughing at almost everything.
Eventually he starts in how much he likes me
and how he wishes he could invite me on this trip.
He's about to go on.
What kind of trip? Where's he going?
That's exactly what I asked.
And he turns to me a serious face.
And he says,
Oh, you know, just my annual meeting with the rest of the evil cabal
that runs the world.
He was the kind of guy.
that was always known for jokes like that.
Again, if I told you his name, you'd understand.
Well, I just have to take your word for it.
And now, if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna top off my life.
Then, yesterday before the symphony, my friend calls me up.
No scheduled appointment like he usually does, just calls me out of the glue.
He wants me to move around some of his money.
We're talking some big numbers, even for him.
And as we're getting off the phone, I asked if he wanted to grab a drink.
he tells me he's going away for a while
I joke back to him
well yeah
you're hanging with your evil cabal this weekend
thought that was only during the winter solstice
he doesn't laugh
and he always laughs even with bad jokes
only sick was
take care of yourself
almost as if he felt sorry for me
ever since I haven't been able to get it out of my head
okay stop he goes on to say
that
there is a plan
that you turn people against each other.
You have either inside country forces, outside the country forces.
You turn people against each other.
It's the easiest way to collapse a country.
You create these divisions.
Then you start hitting them with cyber attacks, etc., etc.
And they don't know who to trust,
and they do the job for the foreign country
or the people that are trying to overthrow the country from within,
they do it.
They don't have to do anything because the people do it themselves.
Then one more clip.
So that's the premise that this is coming.
All right.
Next clip, short one, two.
This ends is if you get back in your vehicle and drive away now.
Drive away to what?
All the roads are blocked.
We're in the middle of God knows where there's no one else around.
I have no idea when I have.
supposed to do right now. I can barely do anything without my cell phone and my GPS. I am a useless man,
but my son is sick. Stop. I'm without GPS and my cell phone, and this is a theme throughout. All of these people,
remember, this is Barack Obama. All of these people are worthless. They have no, I mean,
you're screaming at the television several times going, what the hell is wrong?
with you.
Yeah.
Okay.
And but over and over again, I'm useless without my cell phone.
I don't know what to do.
I don't have GPS.
I don't have an ATM.
The stores are closed.
I don't have a gun all the way through.
Now, what message is being sent there?
Because I hope America gets that.
Are you a worthless man?
I think most of us are.
Most of us are.
What are you doing to correct that?
Because it will be your responsibility.
Those who wait around for the government to show up, good luck with that.
Those who think we're all just going to come together and nobody's coming in.
You've got 72 hours, if something happens.
72 hours to get to safety.
72.
After that, the world breaks down.
Don't believe me.
Look at Katrina.
Track that. Go back and look at the timeline of that. And then government comes in and they say, everybody go here. Don't go there. Don't go there. It will be a disaster. You don't believe me? Look at the Superdome. Don't be a worthless person. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
All right. We have Steve Baker on the phone, Blaze Media investigative journalist who has been looking into the January 6th.
six debacle and has made
massive headway
and it's my understanding that
Steve and the team were
up in Washington here in the last couple
of weeks. I think some of them just got back
yesterday. Spent a lot of
time with the January 6
footage, full access now
because of Steve
and some new stories are coming.
But what a surprise, Steve. You were
notified by the U.S. Department of Justice.
Yes, good morning.
That was a great
Good morning I had yesterday.
I bet.
Yeah, we're actually here right now.
I'm actually talking to you from the secure video room and one of the Congressional Office
buildings in D.C.
We've got our blaze guys here right now working on the consoles, and we've been here all week.
So we're not going to stop working.
I'm not going to quit doing what I'm doing, and we're just going to move forward regardless
of what they throw at us.
But, yeah, hang on, I want to hear what you are finding, if you can, give us any kind of hint
on what's next coming our way.
But tell me, what are you being charged with now?
Well, they notified my attorney yesterday morning that I needed to self-present or self-surrender
myself in Raleigh, North Carolina on Tuesday or Wednesday.
So we're going to arrange for that to happen on Tuesday.
When we asked what the actual charges were going to be, we were told by the FBI agent
that he, quote, unquote, didn't know.
and that he wouldn't know until the magistrate signed off on the warrant.
Now, they are telling us that I'm going to just be processed and then released on my own recognizance,
that I will not be detained, I'll not be held overnight, and that then, of course, I will be
subject to whatever the magistrate decides to put on me.
I don't know whether that will include a surrendering of my devices, because, again,
we haven't seen the warrant.
I don't know if that's going to include a surrendering of my weapons.
I don't know if that's going to include any gag orders of any types.
I don't know if that's going to include restrictions that will prevent me from traveling to D.C.
Because that's what usually happens with January 6th defendants.
One of the first things that they do is they prevent travel to D.C.
What a surprise, Steve?
What a surprise.
Have you downloaded to the rest of the team so the work can continue?
Have you downloaded what you know and what you're looking for and so the rest of the team can continue?
can't go in? We have multiple
dead man switches. Okay. There's your
answer for that. And by the way, dead man switch
we know Steve, he's not
suicidal at all. Not
at all. And apparently,
can't hang himself with paper sheets.
So he's got that
going for him. Well,
please keep us informed.
You have to surrender on Tuesday.
I know the Blaze will have stories next
week on this.
Is there any doubt
in your mind?
because you were contacted by the Justice Department, what, about six months after January 6th, because you were there?
That's correct. Yeah, they contacted me in July of 21. I did my first or my only FBI interview in August of 21.
We were notified by the Department of Justice a month later the week before Thanksgiving in November of 21.
We were told that I would be charged within the week at that time.
And then they dropped off the map and we didn't hear from them.
until 20 months later, which was August of this year, when I got a subpoena,
grand jury subpoena for all of my January 6 videos.
And what does your attorney think this is, that was about?
Well, that was interesting because grand juries are not convened for misdemeanor charges.
They're convened only for felony investigations.
Now, that doesn't mean because we don't know and they won't tell us anything.
Maybe they just wanted my videos for somebody else's investigation.
Maybe it was applicable to what they were looking at for me.
And then there's no assurance that even though there was a grand jury looking at me or the videos that they will apply a felony account,
look, we can assure the world right now because actually one of our guys right here is harvesting every second of me in the Capitol right now.
Good.
We're going to show the world in advance long before this thing.
ever goes to trial or any such nonsense that obviously at any point any time when I was on campus
there was never any violence never any property damage there was never any untoward behavior I didn't
wear Trump gear I didn't parade I wasn't carrying a flag you didn't you didn't stand on a bench did
you God forbid I did do that I did do that oh boy there is a federal law against that I know there is
so I may have to you know I may have to plea down to bench standing but the but wait you did that
not as a protester, as a journalist, to get a bird's eye view, right?
Yes, that's exactly what I did.
I got up and away from the crowd and above the crowd so I could record what was going on in the room.
And that was in the crypt below the rotunda where I did that.
And so it's going to be an interesting presentation well in advance of whatever the government is putting together
because we'll be able to lay it out and show side by side that there were, you know,
There were 60 other journalists that we are aware of that traveled through the same breached doors.
And, of course, I didn't arrive until after several hundred people were already in the Capitol.
But there were 60 other journalists.
Many of those who, in fact, went through those doors, but long before I did, are really a very initial breach that have never been charged.
It just really all comes down to Glenn, who they were submitting their stories in their videos to at the time.
And obviously, you know, whatever their narrative was, if the headline of their story was,
as like the New Yorker's story with Luke Mogulson, among the insurrectionists, well,
then he probably got to get out of jail free card for that headline.
But wait a minute, but you had your video with HBO.
They're not necessarily a flag waiver of the right.
Yeah, they licensed my videos.
New York Times licensed my videos.
as did many other news agencies around the world.
But that was through my agency.
Okay.
So can I ask you just a couple of frank questions?
Because we just really got to know each other recently.
And, you know, are you a hardened, you know, Nazi lover that is, you know, I don't know, burning crosses at night?
You need conversations with this question.
You're weighing this long to ask.
I know.
We had gotten to our, are you a member of?
the Nazi party part of our, of our friendship yet.
But, uh, Glenn, I usually get dinner and a couple drinks before I get asked.
Yeah.
Uh, no, absolutely not. I am, uh, if you, if you, uh, analyze my politics, I am what I
refer to as a pragmatic libertarian. And I have, uh, never had any associations with any
militias, any three percenters, uh, any proud boys, oathkeepers or otherwise. And, uh,
have basically kept to myself and kept my musical career for most of my life as a trumpet
player and a singer.
And my journalism was my side hustle, as they say, for 20, 25 years.
And that was accelerated when COVID came to town.
And I was not allowed to work in the music business for a year and a half.
So I moved my journalism and my investigative research into the captain's chair of my life.
and then January 6 happened.
And so that became a primary focus of what I've been working on.
Well, we are obviously going to be following your story.
And every indication is that exactly what you've said.
And as you say, our team is there looking at all the video footage of you right now
to make sure that we have the story and can get it out,
but also all of the other things you're looking into.
Can you give us a sneak peek on anything else that you're,
you're working on for January 6th?
Yeah, I can tell you that we are continuing our stories on the Capitol Police.
There's a real focus there.
In fact, I don't have a second's worth of hesitation to tell you that the story that we came
out with last Thursday, Friday, that directly showed Capitol Police cover up in corruption
at the highest level probably triggered this action from the DOJ.
I don't know over that story for anybody who didn't see it.
Yeah, the story was that a particular police officer, who we have been covering,
issued an anonymous letter on Capitol Police letterhead back in May of 21.
It was highly partisan, highly political, major violation of the Hatch Act,
major violation of the Capitol Police rules and regulations for their officers.
and he was prompted to write this letter.
It was a political screed against the Republicans that were opposed to Nancy Pelosi's January 6th Select Committee.
And as a result of a prompting he got from Representative Raskin, of all people.
And that was a situation where he took Raskin's prompting and went and created this,
letter and then also solicited help from the capital press pool. And then he had actually some
female reporters in the press pool assist him in crafting this anonymous letter. And when this was
released on May 19th and May 20th, it was discovered the next day because his cop's not very bright.
He used his Capitol Police email and he used Capitol Police printers to print up hard copies.
And so he was brought in for, and his investigation began the next day, and we revealed that not only did he initially lie about the, the action that he had taken, using capital police resources and time to craft a highly partisan political anonymous letter, misrepresenting the department, that this was what would be called a terminable offense.
He should have been fired on the spot.
There was a problem with that, though, Glenn.
we're talking about Harry Dunn, the hero of January 6th, as the media has put forth.
So rather than taking disciplinary action against him, the Capitol Police spiked to that report.
They let him off with what they call a 534 warning, which means that was just a warning, just a slap on the wrist.
Don't do that again, Harry.
And he got by with it.
So rather than being an determinable event, he would.
was not disciplined at all and therefore was allowed to testify in those Oathkeeper trials.
And of course, we know where that goes from there.
So you see the connectivity there.
Okay.
We're talking.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
No, finish up.
Just to finish that up, one of the things that we've been able to do, I've been able to
resources over the last couple of years, is I do have and have been able to capture some internal
communications between Oathkeeper leadership.
and we know that they are livid over.
In fact,
they,
on Friday's report,
when I released the names involved,
Harry Dunn,
Representative Jamie Raskin,
Wendy Wilde,
I'm sorry,
Whitney Wilde from CNN,
who participated in this.
Jeez.
Anonymous letter.
When I put all this together and published that,
the chief counsel for the Capitol Police
actually called me that Twitter guy,
Steve Baker.
And,
uh,
for release.
this information. And so we're seeing, we're learning, we're knowing about these kinds of things
that are happening. And we know that they're upset. And his name is Ted, I think it's DiBiase or
the bias or something like that. And he's the chief counsel. He's a former federal prosecutor,
former assistant U.S. attorney. And he works with the Department of Justice on these cases
related to January 6th. And so we're pretty sure, we don't have to stretch this.
too far to imagine that this is probably what triggered this action against me after two
and a half years.
Steve Baker, investigative journalist, Blaze Media contributor, and now famously that Twitter guy.
Thank you for everything.
Steve, we're going to be following this obviously very closely and good luck.
Good luck.
Stay safe, please.
We'll do.
Thank you, Glenn.
You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
We have so many cuts from the top.
10 moments from last year.
And we've got way late today,
but I want to put them together
for you to be able to watch
and be able to listen to
because it tells us a little something about us
and what we are,
what we're really following.
Kind of unlike Chris Cuomo.
I don't, I don't,
did you see that, what's his name,
Lemon?
Don Lemon?
Don Lemon.
He's like,
I'm listening to Ben Shapiro now.
Are you, Don? Are you really?
And Chris Cuomo, he just did something on October 7th, on the footage on October 7th.
Do we have that?
That's cut two.
This is Chris Cuomo on his show talking about on his News Nation show, recapping what he saw on a private screening of October 7th footage.
And he didn't.
I understand the sensitivity of the families.
I understand the concern that if you don't want to believe that October 7th happened,
well, then it doesn't matter what you see.
But I do believe for many, for many, that there's an aspect of this that I don't think we appreciate.
I realized something that I had missed before, okay?
It took me immediately and deeply into a past trauma.
the exact feeling that I had when I learned why 9-11 happened.
Terrorists targeted the Twin Towers and Washington, D.C.
to take out the great symbols that represent America.
The method was not madness.
They were sane.
They were just evil.
But the method was a message.
Their unholy efforts triggered what America's feared most.
terrorists robbing us of who and what we are about at home.
So if an enemy wanted to make sure that Israel would come for them, the message would be
we're going to take children, women, innocence, and more, tie them up and burn them alive,
just like the whole of them.
cost, the ultimate fear of what the world can bring the Jews way.
When a decision is made that Jews are less than human and treated that way in words and
deeds, I now know that is exactly the message Hamas sent on purpose.
Okay, stop.
You have a mug, Stu.
Chris Cuomo is an awful.
Andrew Cuomo was awful. Chris Cuomo is worse.
Both at dot com.
Yeah, he's, you know, look, he's got a long way from show me in the Constitution where it says you have to be peaceful.
Yeah.
I'm glad.
Was that CNN's effect on him?
Is this?
I was out of a job and I better change my point of view.
What is this?
I think the fundamental defining characteristic of Chris Cuomo is not that he was ever liberal.
It's that he wants a lot of attention.
So I think that would you ever do a sense?
a show with him. I would love to watch an episode of you doing kind of like I do with my sit downs
where you were not saying, you know, hey, I'm your buddy. But you just asking the tough questions
about all the things, because you have, you wrote the book on his bad side.
Yeah, I mean, I'd like to never think of him again. Would honestly be my preference. But
we actually did invite him on the show at one point. And he, of course, you know,
didn't want to come on. This is years ago now.
Yeah.
Might be different now.
Yeah. I mean, there's a, there's a desperation involved.
But I think that's kind of what he is.
Like, he's a, he, he, you know, there's a Geraldo in him.
Yes.
You know what I mean? He just wants everyone to be talking about him.
He wants to be the center of attention.
So I think there's a, like he did this with, you see this interview he did with
the Tourette's influencer?
Oh, no, he didn't.
Yeah.
Did you see, you didn't see this?
On him with him?
Yeah.
Is this she the blonde?
I think she's blonde.
Yeah.
She is, I, I follow her.
I've, I've wanted to reach out.
And I thought, ah, I don't want to be a circus show.
So, of course, Chris did.
But I love her.
I love her.
Well, that was not Chris's take.
Chris, I think, again, I don't know the whole bad.
I don't watch Chris's show, to be fair.
But I did see this clip and he seems to refer to it in a clip where he, um, he thought
she was an actress or something.
Like, she thought she was faking it.
You know, you see what you, you sometimes.
seeing people what you are.
I didn't think of that.
Do you have the clip?
You should do the interview with him.
Okay, yeah, here's the clip.
This is from his show on News Nation.
What do you want people to learn?
I want people to learn that Tourette's is a neurological,
involuntary motor and vocal disorder.
Fuck off.
I don't tick 24-7, and there's a lot of
little baby means.
Fuck you, Chris.
There's a lot of things that people don't understand.
He's laughing.
People think that cussing is with everyone who has Tourette syndrome,
but it's only in 10% of people with Tourette's.
And how has it been as you've gotten more famous?
Do you believe that people are understanding better,
or are they dopes like me who think you're acting?
I say it.
Stop, I can't watch it.
He's the worst.
He's the worst.
What's the point of doing it?
interview with a guy like that, honestly. The first video I saw about two minutes into it,
because I saw it and I thought, if she is faking this, this is one of the worst things I've ever seen.
And you get about a minute and a half and you're like, oh, no, this is real. And she is so sweet.
Her mom and dad are so great. Her brother is amazing. And she is so brave to go online and make these videos.
because, you know, Chris Cuomo's of the world.
But I'm glad he's changed his mind on her.
She gives me hope.
I follow a bunch of people that have really, in some ways,
the average person would go,
they have no reason to have any hope.
And they're just the bravest people I've ever seen out there.
And have you seen the guy who is handicapped,
who is preaching?
And he says, hey, it's time to pray.
I want to pray for you now.
I'm not.
Oh, he is great, too.
There's, look this holiday season for people that are, I follow some of them so you can get some of them for my Instagram.
But I just like, at the end of the day, if I've had a bad day, I'll go on Instagram and I'll just watch inspirational things.
You know, weed out all the other crap.
Just watch them inspirational things.
There are some people that will just make you feel so good because they're so good.
And I think she's one of them.
I just love her.
Yeah, that's great.
Now I'm bummed.
I didn't reach out for an interview for her because.
Yeah, he didn't edit it, by the way.
We edited the clips.
So he let all the F-bombs go because, of course, you know, again, it's about his attention.
Yeah, no, but I think I might do that too because it's so raw.
You see what I watch.
I watch and I think she has everything going for, everything going for except living in a world that is like, okay, freak, I can't deal with that.
You know what I mean?
And it's hard.
Look, it's hard.
It's hard for everybody.
Oh, I know.
It's obviously really hard for her.
But like at one point you mentioned like he looks like he's kind of like smiling, almost like smirking at her comments.
And it's like, I don't know what else you, what else do you do in that moment?
It's like someone saying something to you that's completely inappropriate.
You know, he's not, you know you almost have to acknowledge to the audience.
Like I know this is a little bit different.
Like you almost have to.
So Richard Paul Evans.
He has Tourette's.
And he's got a million interviews with us, but never sounded like that.
Well, because that's not the way it manifests in him.
He said his biggest problem is he wants to spit in the face of famous people.
And I have to remind him all the time.
I'm not that famous.
But he said to me, one time we were in an interview.
And I said, are you all right?
You know, he was talking about something.
He seemed to get a little lost or something.
I said, oh, you are right?
And he said, I cannot tell you how much strength it is taking not to spit in your face.
And I said, brother, half the country would cheer for you.
Yeah.
And I've shared that exact thought.
Yeah.
You know.
Exactly.
That's the least.
That's the bottom rung of that ladder.
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