The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guest: Susan Crockford | 11/5/19

Episode Date: November 5, 2019

Nine Americans were brutally killed in Mexico by the cartel. All were women and children, as young as six months old! We need to recognize the danger on our border and stop playing politics! There has been a battle in this country since its settling between the liberty of Plymouth and the slavery of Jamestown. We MUST choose which defines us.  And Ilhan Omar is still spreading debunked Trump lies. In light of election season, Glenn and Pat review some of the weirdest ballot initiatives ever. Zoologist and polar bear expert Susan Crockford joins the program after she was refused a renewal to her adjunct faculty position for “unbalanced” lectures that prove there is NO polar bear catastrophe. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All right, today is a pretty good podcast. Little did we know the Antichrist would call in today. And rap, kind of an answer to Kanye, which I thought that was, you know, unexpected. Unexpected. Also, an amazing story about how Mexico has just become a, you know, a narco state. It is a failed state. Susan Crawford, the woman who does all the studies on polar bears, she lost her job because she She wasn't balanced.

Holy cow. Wait until you hear this. More on Hunter Biden and what the DNC and the State Department knew about Hunter Biden just before Joe Biden actually gets on a plane and demands the guy being fired. It upends everything. And, of course, our Elon Omar update. You're listening to. The best of the best of the police.

At least three American mothers and six children. From a little American Mormon community based in northern Mexico have been massacred in an attack blamed on drug cartel gunmen. The victims belong to the Liberian family. They were ambushed about eight miles apart in the Mexican border state of Sonora on Monday. At the time of the attack, 17 of the family members were traveling in three cars from Lomorah, a breakaway settlement founded decades ago in Mexico. There are reports that some of the family members who were dual U.S.-Mexico citizens were heading to celebrate a wedding anniversary in the United States.

Several members now of the family have described the horrific scenes, including how gunmen opened fire on one child running away and others burning to death inside the cars that they torched. Other children managed to escape and hide by the rose side while one of their mothers was shot in the chest as she exited the car and put her hands up to surrender. Relatives fear many of the women and younger victims may have been raped. One family member described how a boy managed to hide his wounded siblings, some less than a year old, in the bushes before he ran back to the nearby town to get help after. after his mother was gunned down. The motive for the attack is not yet clear,

although it is possible. It was an attempted kidnapping. A family member reported receiving a phone call, hearing screams before they were executed. The group had previous run-ins with organized crime cartel in the area, including one member being killed. One family member, however, believes the recent attack was just a case of mistaken identity.

If you look at the children that were killed, it is absolutely horrific. Family members of Ronita Maria LeBaron was driving to Phoenix on Monday with her four children to pick up her husband and then returned to Mexico to celebrate their wedding anniversary. Relatives say her car had broken down when the gunman opened fire and torched her vehicle, causing the gas. gas tank to explode. She was killed along with her twin six-month-old babies, her 10-year-old daughter, and 12-year-old son Howard. Eight miles away in different attacks, several other family members were gunned down. Christina Johnson, 29. Donna Langford, 43. Two of her children, Trevor 11, Rogan, 3, also died when traveling in two other SUVs. The family member say Christina saved her seven-month-old baby Faith's life

by throwing the infant to the floor of the SUV as bullets tore through the vehicle. Seven children survived but suffered multiple gunshot wounds. When is enough enough, America? When is enough enough? A video posted by a relative on social media shows the charred remains of the Chevy Suburban. It had been burned following an explosion with smoldering bullet holes visible in the paneling. The male voice said this is for the record. Nita and four my grandchildren were burnt to death and shot up.

Mexico is a failed state. It is now a narco state. The drug cartels are in control. We have a failed state on our border. and no defense. We have Americans going to a very dangerous state because we fail to recognize it. We don't.

The media and the politicians fail to recognize the danger on our border. Two things should happen. These were American citizens that were gunned down. Two things should happen. We need to build the wall. and we need to change our drug laws. It is because of our drug laws, we have Chicago on the other side of the border.

Just like when we had prohibition in Chicago, it feeds these fiends. It feeds the evil. Now, here's the problem. We live in a society that has absolutely no responsibility, absolutely no. No self-control. The drugs are not just coming from Mexico. The drugs are also coming from China. And if you know anything about the opium war that England levied against China back in the 1800s,

it's easy to see, oh my gosh, they're doing the same exact same thing to us. China is using the tactic used by Britain. Great Britain went in to Afghanistan and took all the opium and started selling it across the border and got the Chinese people just addicted to opium. That's how they won the opium war. China had nothing they could do other than surrender. Stop, stop, stop, stop. What are they doing to us today? they're shipping opium over to us in mass quantities.

They are addicting our people. And we are empowering the worst of the worst. These are terrorist organizations. And we are empowering them. When are we going to stop playing politics? What do we get to start actually looking at actual facts? I saw a story today about how, how bad. our school systems are, that we have the worst school systems now than we've ever had.

And I thought to myself, gee, I wonder if anybody's going to look into how we had the best school systems a hundred years ago to the worst school systems that are spending the most amount of money in the entire world. We spend more money on our schools than anybody else in the entire world. And yet we get the worst results. How is that possible? It's possible because it's all designed by the federal government, and it is all nothing but a bureaucracy. Give the power back to the people. It is astonishing to me, absolutely astonishing, that in an era where everything is customized, everything is customized. You can, you can soon make your Tesla and change out the bodies.

Just leave, you want to need a truck this week? Don't go rent a truck. You just go down to Tesla and they'll just put the truck body on your car and you'll have a truck. Everything is customizable to you. And yet, what are we doing? Those same people that love custom made everything and do, demand it and feel ripped off if it's not customizable? We're demanding a giant one-size-fits-all bureaucratic state?

How asleep are you, America? How hypnotized are you? How dead inside are you to what's really going on? We're enslaving our children through debt. We're enslaving our children through a lack of education. They are absolute idiots. Our history hasn't been lost. Our history has been taken from us.

And we know it. And what do we do? What do we do? We save our money. We go into debt. And then we take all of that money and pay 400% more than we did. 10 years ago to take our little lambs and lead them right into the hands of the butcher through education.

Here, kids, we've worked 18 years to shape you, to mold you, to help you learn how to think, let me give you right over to the hands of a butcher who's going to undo all of those things. Oh, and we're going to go into debt doing it. What the hell is it? wrong with us. There's two other related stories here. Let me give you this one. Following months of national media coverage over the handling of illegal aliens in custody, Montgomery County, Maryland is starting to reverse their sanctuary policy. The county executive Mark Erlich is going to allow immigration and customs enforcement ICE agents the ability to access certain areas of Montgomery

County jail in order to apprehend illegal aliens. County spokesperson confirmed to the local news outlet that correctional officers have been ordered to give ICE agents clearance to identify areas of the jail to ensure that transfers are conducted in a safe environment. Why are they suddenly changing this? Well, because crime started to go off the roof. A string of rape charges. criminal aliens. Oh, we just want to be compassionate. We want to be compassionate.

We don't need ice. We won't give any of these people over to ice until rape numbers went through the roof. Perpetrated by illegal aliens. Finally, the people have had enough and said enough. There's a new study in California that shows that just over half of California's registered voters

are considering leaving the state again half, over half of the registered voters in California have said enough is enough.

You know, at some point, you run out of places to run. Where are you going to go? Because this insanity is everywhere. Yes, there are worse places. God help the poor people who believe in law and order in Portland, Oregon. But this is a disease, and it is spread throughout society. And this disease kills all common sense.

We have a choice to make. And I'm going to lay out that choice. Can you imagine, Pat, your whole family is all. going to a wedding and they're just gunned down. I can't. And in separate vehicles miles apart too. I mean, they deliberately ambushed. I have to tell you, I was at Operation OUR this weekend, this Saturday night in Salt Lake City,

which is Operation Underground Railroad. And it was started by Tim Ballard, and he got up and he told the story about, about Garty. You remember Garty and his father? Garty is a kid that was kidnapped in Haiti in the church parking lot. Stad was the pastor of the church. And in the church parking lot, his son, who I think was seven at the time, was kidnapped and sold into sexual slavery. He has not been found yet. It's been over 10 years. They're still looking for him.

And this father is so remarkable. And when I heard him talk about this, I went to bed that night. I had dreams all night over and over and over again. One of those nightmares where you wake up and then you close your eyes and you have the same dream again. it was that my son had died and it affected me well into the next day

I just couldn't get my arms around losing one of my children I don't know how people survive that but we are we are losing our children through violence we're losing our children through suicide?

We're losing our children to, quite honestly, the university systems. Their bodies still may be here, but their spirits are crushed. What are we doing? We all live the same kind of life where we're all struggling at night, worrying about our kids, where at least I am. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think so. I think there are millions of parents just like me that every night you come home and you talk to your kids, and you thank God that they've come home

and they're not completely destroyed by whatever this society is pushing. And now you can't get it out of the house because electronics, it's everywhere. Used to be that your house was a castle. Your house was a safe zone. Tell me what's safe. We wonder why we're having these problems.

I will tell you. what the actual problem is and how to begin to solve it in your own life. The Best of the Glenn Beck Program. Hey, it's Glenn, and you're listening to the Glenn Beck program. If you like what you're hearing on this show, make sure you check out Pat Gray Unleashed. It's available wherever you download your favorite podcasts. So what is it that we're going through? What is it that we're happening?

I want to read something to you from 1888. This was commissioned by Congress and done by the librarian of Congress in 1888. Two English colonies that first settled in America furnish a moral lesson that is in full interest and in some respects without parallel in the history of the world. This map, and I'll tell you about the map here in a second, it's a map of the United States. This map represents those colonies by two trees who strike. whose striking contrast will be apparent to the most superficial observer, but not more so than historical facts make them appear. The student of history here can see at a glance that it would require him years of hard study

to glean from textbooks, and many will see the moral of the subject here for the first time. It is said that history repeats itself. We do not claim that it does, but there is a similarity between the first colony of the old world and the first colonies of the new world. The first colony of the old world was established in the Garden of Eden. This is commissioned by Congress in 1888. The first colony of the old world was established in the Garden of Eden, where good and evil existed and evil caused the downfall of man.

So it was in the new world. Good and evil came here to America also. The good to Plymouth, the bad. to Jamestown. As the tree which bore the forbidden fruit caused the curse to be brought upon man in Eden, so did the tree of slavery in Jamestown. There was a constant warfare in the old world between good and evil. So there has always been in the new world. The evil of Jamestown has always been and to this day at war with the good of Plymouth. Now remember, this is after slavery. This is 20-some years after slavery. Much of the trouble in the new world was caused in this way.

In 1620, each colony planted a tree, the tree of liberty, then quite small, planted by the pilgrims upon the Bible in Plymouth, where it received God's blessings, which accounts for its wonderful growth and excellent quality of fruit. The tree of slavery was brought was brought from the old world, and the people of Jamestown planted that. In time of a dispute, in time, a dispute arose between the two colonies as to which tree should grow large that it would occupy all the land. Slavery, with its attendant evils, would overshadow the land with darkness, while liberty, with its manifold blessings, would send a flood of light over the whole country. At one time it appeared that the tree of slavery would gain the supremacy.

But God caused that that tree soon began to lean southward. Its friends then tried to prop it up, but it still continued to lean and showed signs that it would fall. This made the southern man jealous and decided to murder his northern brother, as Cain of old did to his. brother Abel. For this sin, God set a black mark upon Kane and sent Father Abraham with his big Emancipation Acts to cut the tree of slavery down. Isn't it interesting that it was Father

Abraham. Abraham Lincoln that did this. It's a remarkable fact that so far the influence of the two colonies has been felt in the affairs of our country and that the Jamestown colony has been bad and the Plymouth colony good. The grand and noble thoughts recorded in the wonderful invention of our free schools. The many blessings we enjoy today and all that tends to elevate mankind and heirlooms handed down from the Puritans and their children, while nearly every evil which exists in the political economy of our beloved country can be traced to the pernicious teachings of Jamestown settlers and their children. Now listen to this paragraph. James Town is no more, but the colony still lives in the form of the Democratic Party.

This was commissioned by Congress 1888, written by the librarian of Congress 1888. Why? because the roots of the Democratic Party were from the southern slave owners. It was all about slavery. It was not about freedom of the states to do anything. It was about slavery. Plymouth is a flourishing city. Her children now form the Republican Party of this great country. For verification of these facts, study the history of the United States.

Now, I am not here to tell you that the Democrats and the Republicans, that the Republicans are good and saintly and the Democrats are evil. The infection is on both sides now. I do believe one is much worse than the other, but the infection is on both sides. That's not the point of this. The point is the map. And the map is shown with two trees, one kind of gnarled and, and, uh, and bent and it's God's curse of slavery and it was planted the trunk of that tree is in Jamestown

and it shows how that tree is has grown and the limbs of the tree are really really important the limbs of the tree are avarice lust ignorance superstition sedition secession rebellion treason murder, war, God's blessing of liberty, that tree that comes from Plymouth. The first branch is free schools, and we don't mean nobody pays for them. What we mean is that they are free.

The people do it. They are free of government. Now, how can you expect a government school to teach you that you should be, wary of the government. We ever thought of that? How could a school that is paid for by the government who wants to churn out good citizens that respect and love the government,

how could it possibly be expected to be teaching that the government is like fire? Free schools, intelligence, obedience to the law, knowledge, free speech, equal right, love of country, contentment, industry, philanthropy, benevolence, sobriety, morality, happiness, patience, justice, charity, virtue, faith, truth, hope, honor, joy, peace, light, and immortality. We are facing exactly the same. This is the, this is the war in heaven. a third of God's own children, a third of the angels who knew who he was. Chose wrong.

Chose incorrectly. It can happen there. How come it can't happen here? The Garden of Good and Evil. We know what happened. The fall. This happens all the time, good and evil. And in America, there is a second choice.

There is the choice. that we consecrate, look that up, not just dedicate, consecrate everything that we do. We make that sacred that we're not doing it just for us. We're doing it for our children and our posterity. We're doing it for the freedom of all mankind. We're doing it because that's what God asks us to do, to have a noble and charitable and loving heart. Or you can go the way of Jamestown. The people who came, including Columbus, he came over for the right reasons,

but the minute he started looking for gold, he lost his way. There is a curse on this land as well as a blessing, but the curse is only enacted on those who choose it. because this is a sacred land if you choose to pursue jamestown your tree will become gnarled and bent and broken if you choose and we have the dominance that money that fame that everything earthly is what this country is about we are going to perish and sooner than most people think but we're really a covenant land.

And if we go back to Plymouth, and we go back to the beginning, and we choose, you know, there was this argument in the 1850s, which are we? Are we the sons and daughters of Plymouth, or are we the sons and daughters of Jamestown? Well, thank God, they chose before the Civil War. They are the people of Plymouth, not Jamestown. We have to make that same choice again. And it is that simple. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

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You can subscribe on iTunes. Thanks. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's time for an Alon Omar update. Alon Amar. Amar. So the Alon Amar update. Here she is at a Bernie Sanders rally, and I want you to listen to this.

Go ahead. Because that is the only way we are going to defeat Donald Trump. Alon Amar. And place. Ideology in the Trump. this bin of history where it belongs. But that Muslim Brotherhood, that's great stuff. Together we are going to send a powerful message with this president.

Yes. Your effort to coddle white supremacy, to ban Muslims from entering the United States, to call people at neo-Nazi rallies, very fine people will fail. that. Isn't that beautiful? Isn't that beautiful? So tired of that lie. And just as a matter of fact, none of us are going back.

Well, that might not be the case with you in particular at some point. You might not be like the average Muslim that is here. It might be a special exception made for you. But that's only if anybody cares to, I don't know, investigate. There's your Ilan Omar update. A lot more. That is fantastic. Today is the day that many people are going to the polls.

Big day in Virginia, every seat in the state house is open. Is it Virginia or West Virginia? It's Virginia. Did I say West Virginia? No, well, I think you said West Virginia yesterday. Maybe I just misheard it. Yeah, probably that.

Every seat is, does that happen anywhere else? I don't think so. I thought that was wrong. When I first read that, I was like, no, I can't be out like every seat. Every seat? That's crazy talk. But apparently you can, so we'll see what they do with it. We were looking at some of the ballot initiatives, and you have to go back, you know,

because most of them now are just about, you know, how much money are we going to spend? How much tax dollars do you want to spend? That's most of the ballot initiatives state by state. But I like some of these. Should we prohibit toxic waste in our drinking water? That's a tough one. You know, you really got a battle in the voting booth just to whether or not, you want toxic waste in water.

Right, right. Well, it was approved. This is in California. They said, we should forbid toxic waste discharge in a drinking water. No. How does that even get? on a ballot. How does that even get on a ballot? You know what that is? That is toxic waste discharge. I think that is so broad that it just opened up everything, all these doors. That was 1986.

I like this one. Along with school vouchers, sales tax and city charter revisions, voters in San Francisco had to decide whether to allow a veteran police officer to walk his beat with a ventriloquist dummy. Brendan O'Smarty. He of the laughing Irish eyes, whom Officer Geary picked out of a ventriloquist catalog after he was selected to work in a community policing program that encouraged officers to use creative and ingenious methods to break down barriers between citizens and police.

That's a unique way. Sure is. I don't know if this helps bring us closer together. You're like, oh, dear God, here comes the guy with a vitriloquered. But they approved it. Yeah, they did approve it. It actually approved it. In San Francisco.

Should we give $1 million to a random voter? Good way to get people to vote. I think the founders would have absolutely loved that initiative. Oh, they would have loved that. We're voting not for freedom, but for cash, for the possibility to become a millionaire. Believe it or not, that was New York City. and it was defeated. Fairly recently, too. That was 2006.

I didn't even hear. Well, he lived there and I didn't even hear about that one. Should we take over the Grand Canyon? This one was on the ballot in Arizona on October 23rd. Voters in Arizona, when they go to the polls, they will be asked to decide land ownership, tug of war. Should the Grand Canyon belong to all Americans or just the residents of Arizona? Controversial ballot measure backed by Republicans in the state, seeking sovereign control over millions of acres of federal land in the state, including the Grand Canyon. It's kind of a federal land grab thing. Should it belong to the state?

Or should it be federal land? It should belong to the state. I think so, too. It's defeated that. Should Denver set up a commission to track aliens? Denver opted against the initiative to track aliens from outer space. Proposition known as Initiative 300 would have involved setting up commission to monitor aliens and a website to allow members of the public to report UFO sightings. As a result, how many aliens have sneaked into Denver?

A lot. A lot. A lot. Yeah. A lot. They should have set up the commission. I don't know if I'm all that surprised that it was Colorado after the drug thing. But should we let Roxy the men? miniature pig stay. Roxy, the pot-bellied pig, will be moving to a new home now that voters have said that she wore out her welcome. Cynthia and Tim Gaston and their two children who own Roxy, the petite pig, said they're

going to, they'll move rather than give Roxy up. On Tuesday, residents of the city of 20,000, about 30 miles northwest of Dayton in Western Ohio, rejected the ballot proposal that, would have allowed residents to keep miniature pigs as pets. Now, I don't know why that's anybody's business. No, but Cynthia and Tim obviously had to move. Wow. Sad. Really sad. Berkeley, among the most generous cities in the country

in funding homeless services is considering a daytime ban on sitting on the sidewalk in all commercial areas. The city currently prohibits lying on the sidewalk, but police and city officials say the law is ineffective, because people just sit up when the officers walk by. It was defeated. Yeah, of course. Should we just start our own state?

At NAN's convenience store in eastern Colorado, the front door tells visitors, gun control is hitting your target. The farmers, the crop sprayers, mechanics, and retirees who gather for morning coffee say they've had enough of the state and its Democratic leaders. They bristle at gun control, and marijuana shops, green energy policies, and steps to embrace gay marriage and illegal immigrants.

In November, the rural county and 10 others are going to hold a vote on whether to secede from Colorado and work to form their own state. Remember that movement? I remember them doing that, and it was shut down, though. I don't think you can do that, though, can you? I don't think legally. You can't?

I don't think you can actually make a state from, just the borders of another state. Isn't that what it says? Something like that. Yeah, that's close. I don't know exactly how you can make a state anymore. We've always talked about the fact that Texas can divide into five states if it wants to. But you can't just secede from a state and start another state and you can't secede from the union legally.

That never made sense to me. No. So we can start our own state in here? What of five? We can split into five, yeah. Really? Yeah, we can't secede from the union, like many people think we can legally do, but we can't do that. But we can split into five states.

Didn't Texas have the right to its own Navy? I'm not sure about that. I think for a while. It had a right to its own Navy. I don't have to look into that. Yeah, I think, I don't know when that ended. Should we build a new house for the pregnant elephant? The elephant.

Cincinnati zoo officials threatened to ship off its four Asian elephants, one of them pregnant if voters rejected a $52 million tax levy for a new elephant house. Yeah, bu-bye elephants.

The elephants were put onto a boat and shipped someplace else. I'm paying $52 million for an elephant house. Sorry. Sorry. I just... Not doing it. Oh, man.

I was out trick-or-treating with the grandkids and there were these, these houses in the neighborhood where the taxes, the property taxes in Texas are the real problem. Oh, they are really high. And these people had vote yes, proposition whatever for the school. And it took everything in me to say, why, do you need a bigger football stadium? Is that what you need?

If you need a bigger football stadium, pay for it on your own. Yeah. Because it's crazy. The schools down here in Texas are insane. But they always tell you, it's for the children. Do you love the children? No. Don't you love your children?

No. I love the 12 children. The 12-year-old boy children. That's what we hear all the time. Was that a proposition? No, no. I've been propositioning them for a while. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

The author of the book, The Polar Bear Catastrophe, that Never Happened. Susan Crockford, a zoologist, is with us now. She finds herself now out of the university system, and that's going to affect a lot of things. Welcome. Dr. Crawford, how are you? I'm fine, Glenn, thanks. Now, are you over in Europe? Because I know you were on a speaking tour over in Europe. Yes, I'm actually still in the middle of that, so I'm in Germany at the moment. And what are you talking about on your speaking tour?

I'm talking about essentially the topic of my book, which is, you know, just explaining how and why the polar bear catastrophe that was predicted back in 2007 never materialized. So how are you being received around the world? Oh, just with open arms. The people who have been organizing this tour have been phenomenal, and the audiences have been very receptive, and I've gotten a lot of positive feedback and a lot of outrage when they've heard about this, my losing my adjunct faculty position.

Now, Susan, I want to get into how that affects you and your work, etc in a second. But first, let's just address that. They say this had nothing to do with you and polar bears and then climate change. They just said, and I quote, that your lectures were unbalanced. What do they mean by that? Yes. I don't know. They didn't explain further. And if you like, I will give you the direct quote. Go ahead. And so it was while I respect issues of academic freedom, Your talks at schools have generated concern amongst parents regarding balance that have been shared with various levels of the university. Wow. And that was the sum total of the explanation I was given.

So, excuse me, this was for, this was for my expulsion from the Speakers Bureau. This was not for the adjunct faculty position. This was for the Speakers Bureau incident that happened in 2017. So let me ask you, the people that speak about the death of polar bears that is factually inaccurate, were they also fired for imbalance for not presenting your side? Well, of course, there isn't anyone at my university that's in that position. So I'm really the only one in the entire faculty that has any expertise in polar bears. I just can't get over the balance thing because I have not seen anyone fighting for balance.

I think American people, I think Canadians are. They're all fighting for balance. Look, don't teach our children what to think. Teach them how to think. And you approach this as a scientist, as a zoologist, and you understand polar bears. and what's really happening, you're not, you're not, you know, making a Coke commercial. You're doing actual science. Yes, indeed.

And seriously, one of the issues here is that this Speakers Bureau organization was a volunteer position. So various faculty members and even graduate students would volunteer to go out and speak to community groups. and but there was no discussion that I'm aware of where we were told that we had to include a balanced presentation or what that even might entail. So do you think this is just your message to other people in academia, toe the line or you're next? Well, I think so. I think that that is, well, I don't know. I think that if that has been their intention, they would have admitted to what they were doing.

But all of all of the actions here have been really, they sort of smack of a bureaucracy that's trying to cover up having done something wrong. And, you know, they're very careful with their language, refusing to put things in writing, and now denying, to other people that they had done anything wrong. They have not, in fact, been in touch with me at all. I haven't heard from anyone from the university over this whole incident. So when you are even an adjunct professor, that allows you to do different things that somebody who is not affiliated with a university can't do.

That's correct. And so I would be able to do something like apply for a research grant or work with academic colleagues who had research funding and that sort of thing. So even though you're a scientist, even though you're a scientist, you're a zoologist, you have your doctorate, you can't go in on somebody else's study and even help them because you don't have university status. Yes, if I don't have an academic affiliation, I can't do that. That's insane. That sounds insane.

I mean, that sounds like the worst thuggish kind of union there is. Why is that? Do you know why that rule was made? I don't know why. It's just, it's for a requirement, I believe, for many, if not most, of academic funding. And, you know, there might be certain kinds of participation where a non-academic would be allowed, but you wouldn't be able to be, for example, at the, you know, like, tightly involved in the core of the study.

This is why adjunct status is so important. It gives you that credential that you need. So what is this, what are you going to do now? What can you do now? Well, I mean, there's no, there's no process of appeal. You know, it appears that adjunct, have no rights in that regard. And so I really don't have any other option

but to carry on as best I can. I can do the work that I've been doing on polar bears because that hasn't required getting research funding. But as for any of my evolution research, I think I will just have to hope that perhaps another university might offer an adjunct position at their... school. And what is your research on evolution? I've been looking at the role of thyroid hormone

in speciation as a mechanism. So you're looking at this. Talk down to me. I'm sure I'm a doctor. Well, one of the things, one of the things, let's take the transformation of a brown bear into a polar bear. for example. It's one of the things that is, we know from genetics, is the transformation that led to the rise of the polar bear. But one of the things that we know very little about is what the actual biological mechanism is that turns one species into another. And so I've done, been looking at what that biological mechanism might entail. And so I was looking at the role of thyroid hormone because it's a hormone that has some very powerful roles in the body, in development, in growth, in brain function, and

also in control of genes. So what this would do would be to propose kind of a parallel system. or a system in conjunction that you would have genetic change as well as a change in thyroid metabolism function that would then change gene function. So have you watched it? It would be a real groundbreaking. It's a kind of a groundbreaking idea in evolution. Have you watched the video with David Galertner and I can't remember the other two scientists where they talk about, how evolution couldn't be because we, there is no mechanism.

You have to design an animal from the first cell, not from the last cell, not from, you can't make changes, otherwise the entire structure falls apart. Have you seen that from David Glartner? No, I haven't. I haven't. Look him up. He's a Yale mathematician, and it's not his theory. He just started this conversation.

and he's actually a big Darwin fan and has always believed in evolution and has just come out and read some new studies and said the whole thing kind of falls apart. I'd be interested in hearing somebody like you that actually has, you know, expertise in this to look at it and tell me what you think. But it's a fascinating conversation with three scientists. and I think only one of them is gleefully taking down the origin of the species. Susan, thank you so much. Really appreciate you all the things that you have done. And I appreciate your boldness and your bravery to stand up and speak the truth, even if it is unpopular.

And as it turns out, at your own expense. I wish you all the best of luck. Thank you, Susan. Network on demand