The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guest: Tim Kennedy | 4/25/25

Episode Date: April 25, 2025

Glenn dismantles the Washington Post’s wild claim that Trump’s Oval Office renovations echo a “Sun King” dictatorship. Former U.S. Army Special Forces Sniper Tim Kennedy joins Glenn to tackle the veteran suicide crisis and the war on purpose, while blasting both Democrats and Republicans for sabotaging Trump and betraying allies like Tulsi Gabbard and Kash Patel. Glenn and Stu debate Daniel Kahneman’s assisted suicide at age 90. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Well, the New York Times thinks President Trump has put a bunch of his own money into the White House to showcase luxury and how he just wants guillotine. Oh my gosh. I can't take it. I explain exactly what the... Because I know I was in the Oval and I talked to the president about it one-on-one this week. New York Times doesn't know their butt from their elbow. Also, Tim Kennedy joins me. And life does have meaning.

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Louise, there's, there's so much. The polls of the Democrats just getting worse and worse and worse. That's in the news. I, you know, the media has a new conspiracy about Trump's decor on the Oval Office, which I... I saw that story. Can I start there? Please. Yeah, I want to start there.

This really drives me out of my mind. You were just there. You just just there. Notice a lot of these same things. Did you notice a big conspiracy? Oh, a giant conspiracy. I spoke to the president about this very thing. Okay.

When I walked in, they left me and my wife alone in the Oval for about five minutes, okay? Which doesn't normally happen. That doesn't happen. And when he finally walked in, he said, I asked him to leave you alone in here because I knew you'd want to look around and might feel uncomfortable. So did you look around? And I'm like, oh, my gosh, I touched everything. I said, yeah, I absolutely. Better than in the Clinton administration.

I'll say that. Yeah. No, I mean, I was very, very, you know, respectful of everything in there. I didn't touch anything. But I did look at everything. And, I mean, they have a, what he's done, let me just start here. This is what the New York Times is saying. That if you look at the maximalist gold accents in which Trump has appointed the Oval Office, the sparkle conveying something more than insidious about how Trump views himself. Behold the new sun king, the wannabe emperor who. views his powers as absolute. Really? Is that what it says? Is that really what it says? Okay. Now, you could say, it says a guy who loves gold.

Is anybody surprised by that? Is anybody surprised at Donald Trump? The most luxurious, the most golden gold of all gold you could possibly ever imagine. Gold never thought gold could be this gold. Okay? The thing he's like most famous for before he was president.

His gold. Okay. He loves. gold. I would have you know the president is spending his own money doing any of these upgrades to the White House. Anything that is being done by him, and he is doing a lot and a lot, just a lot. And every American should be grateful for what he is spending his money on and doing. And you will know more about that in the coming months. You will be shocked at some of the things that he is just saying, I'm just going to write a check and do it.

But anyway, if you look at the Oval, I want to know how putting paintings of presidents up says, I'm the Sun King. Okay. I looked at all of the paintings. I wanted to know because it says a lot about a president on who he is putting up on the walls. You know, what paintings is he putting up? on the walls. Now, some people have put landscapes on, other people, you know, have put, you know, pictures of New York up or whatever. This president has put presidents on the wall. He has taken the, not Rembrandt Peel, I think it's his father, is it, Timothy Peel. I can't remember what his father's name.

Rembrandt Peel is the guy who did the porthole president painting, which is also up on the, It's above the Declaration of Independence, but above the fireplace, his father did the most famous painting of George Washington as a young soldier. Charles Wilson Peel. Charles Wilson Pill. And it's the one where he's standing, you've seen it a million times in history books. And he's standing there and he's got his hand kind of in his vest and the sword by his side. And it's a young George Washington. And that hung in the Reagan.

Oval office, okay, hasn't been seen since then. All of these paintings, one is a painting of Thomas Jefferson that hasn't been seen in a hundred years. Okay. And so what Donald Trump did is he went down into the vaults of the White House. I know because I talked to him about this. He said all of these stuff, Glenn, he said, they have all these things that have been and can be used in the White House that are just in storage down in the vaults. And he said, so I just went down in the vaults and I'm like, what, what do we have? What do we have?

And he said, all of these beautiful. paintings of all of these presidents, he said, they haven't been seen. And he's like, I don't know. This is the, this is the room of the presidents. I thought we should put presidents up on the wall. Okay. Now, here's the thing that the New York Times will never understand because they immediately go to, he's the sun king. He wants to behead people and then he'll end up beheading being beheaded. that that's they're they're immediately going to he wants to be a dictator when he first came in he said you see all the gold and I said you can't really miss it Mr. President now I'm not a fan of of gold and you know all of the gilding and stuff it the way he's done it is beautiful I personally

that's not my style but it doesn't have to be my style okay and I said I said I think I know why the price of gold is so high. What is this cost you? And he laughed. And he said, I'm going to leave it, of course, but I mean, unless it's a Democrat, then I might just take all of a gilding off. But he was joking. Here's what he said to me. Glenn, this is the most important office in the world. And all of these people come from their big, huge palaces and their big, huge, huge. And their big, rooms of power that's gilded and has all of these paintings, all of the old trappings of power. He said, I want them to understand that this is the same kind of power, except it's a new power and a power beyond their understanding.

So he is trying, he is doing this to the Oval Office, not to become a dictator, not to signal anything to America, but to signal something to all of the dignitaries that come into that office and sit in those chairs, you are sitting at a place of ultimate power. That's exactly what the Oval is supposed to do. That's why they built it that way. That's the whole point of that office, is to project power to the world. Not to the citizens. to the world. I just, I was just with him two days ago. We had this very conversation.

The New York Times, you're so full of bull crap, I can't take it. There was an F in there, and I thought it was going a different direction for a second in the middle of that sentence. It's very close today. It could happen. I am so sick and tired of this guy. I mean, look, this is not my taste. It's not my taste.

It's not the way I would decorate it. But I understand why he's doing it. and I appreciate why he's doing it. Well, I mean, he does obviously love gold and he loves the way those are, that's decorated. And he is. Go ahead. But he also knows how people in powerful positions in other nations view things, right? Like he said, Glenn, I've been, I've been to Moscow.

I've been in all of their places of power. We need to make sure that they understand, that they see enough of what they believe is power. They see enough of that and then some. This conversation went on for probably 10 minutes. It's so ironic that they write this stupid story today. Because I'm sitting there and I got to, you know what? I'm going to send you some pictures of me sitting with him and my wife at the Oval and also looking around because we are having this conversation. And you can see him having this conversation with me.

We'll post him up online when we get into the break. he knows exactly what he's doing and he spoke to me about, I can't tell you everything that we spoke about because he made me sign a non-disclosure, and I wish he wouldn't have because it just shows you who he is and what he's doing that makes him look at. This guy never allows people to talk about the really, unbelievable, humbling things that he does. Never, because I think he thinks it makes him look weak.

And I just want to take him by the shoulders today and shake him, go, because the guy is a builder. He knows how to build. He knows how to build things of quality. And what he's doing to the White House is phenomenal, just phenomenal. and he's not doing it to project power. If you were a dictator, why would you put all of the other presidents?

Why would you put George Washington over the fireplace? Why would you have Thomas Jefferson? If you wanted to be a dictator, why would you put the Declaration of Independence right next to your desk that says, we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal? and that governments are established by men.

Why would you do that? That says we don't have a king. Why would you do that? Why? Why? You know, why does he have the, what is it, FIFA? Is that how you say it, Fifea, FIFA? FIFA.

Yeah, the soccer. You know, he has the soccer statue, the World Cup. The World Cup, sitting right next to his desk. Did you know that? No. Okay. So the FIFA guy comes and is visiting the president. And I walk in and I only seen a little bit of it, you know, when the press is in there.

And I'm like, I think that's the World Cup. And so I go in, it's unbelievable. Unbelievable in real life. And it's all gold, beautiful gold. And it's this year's cup, which is happening here in America. And so the FIFA president comes in and shows him the cup. And he's like, you know, we do have the World Cup happening. It would be great if you just leave it here next to my desk.

And the guy is like, okay, you can have it for a couple of months. And he's like, all right. So he's got it. He's got it, I think, until the World Cup happens. And so he has it sitting there. Why? Why? Why would he put it there?

Why? Why? Why? Tell me why, why, why, why, tell me. Anybody quickly? My guess would be that the importance of that trophy to the rest of the world is, incredibly high. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. No, it's because he wants to be a dictator and show that he could even win in soccer games. No, he's showing the rest of the world. This thing just lives here

when I want it. Basically. Yes. We are the center of the World Cup this year. The world is coming to us. He's going to have, mark my words. He didn't tell me this, but mark my words. He will have the gold medals and everything else from the Olympic Games, which is also here in America. He will have those in his office. He is signaling to the world. You New York Times people are so caught up in your own self-righteous, dim-witted, over-educated bull crap that you can't get beyond yourself. Can you not see what a negotiator is doing? are you really that dim-witted that you can't understand what this guy is doing?

Are you that full of spite and hatred that you can't for a second step outside of yourself and go, wait a minute, is there a strategy to this? This guy is playing a game of chess beyond your under, you're not even playing checkers. You're not even playing marbles. I don't know what you're playing. I don't know what you're playing. You know, it's interesting. I think part of the reason they do stuff like this is because it fits into their narrative of who he is.

You know, like, and I think you could, if you kind of look at it from a surface, if you step back, I don't think he can possibly get to, hey, he wants to be a king that's just dumb. But like, you could get to a place where you think he wouldn't put any thought into this, right? Like, I think you could get to, you know, guys tweeting mean things at people. He's, you know, he's out there. He's kind of, he's letting it fly all the time. He's a former reality show host. He's not going to care about what paintings are in the Oval Office. I can understand that view years and years ago.

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and I was escorting a bunch of wounded heroes for what is the fifth celebration now that we're doing it. And it'll be, you know, hopefully a national holiday for Wounded Heroes Day. We'll have Memorial Day. We'll have Veterans Day. And then in between those two things, we'll have Wounded Heroes Day, especially on the, you know, the right side of 20 years at war. We definitely need to celebrate these guys. guys that have given so much, these guys and gals.

You know, I tell you, I was out, Tim, two weeks ago, and let's just say, I can't remember what days of the week they were, but let's say on a Wednesday, I'm talking to a group of people, and a guy comes up to me, and he said, I wanted to be here tonight, but my son two days ago, he was in the military, and he just committed suicide. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, and then two days later, I'm someplace else. else. And this mom comes up to me and she said, I just wanted to say hi. And she starts crying. And I said, are you okay? And she said, my son just committed suicide. He was in the military. And this has got

to stop, Tim. This has got to stop. What do we need to do? We have to have a massive culture shift. We have to give these young men and women purpose. You know, we've had in just this past week, I was with Secretary Collins, who's the secretary of the VA. He's an extraordinary. man, a chaplain, a combat veteran, man, and he loves the veterans crying. He was literally crying, talking about, he's had veterans commit suicide in the parking lots of VAs. And he's like, this is what we're doing. I can't do it fast enough. But the man is pouring his heart out. His daughter is in a wheelchair from a lifetime struggle of medical issues. So he has not just the combat veteran perspective, but he also appreciates as, you know, the father kind of care

provider of somebody that's in a wheelchair, the struggles of mobility. And so he really appreciates the whole entire spectrum of these people and their struggles, especially our veterans. And, you know, as you know, there's nothing worse than a young person or a man that is living without purpose. And these men, their service was purpose. Their teams and the men to the left and the right were their purpose. And now they're searching for the next thing. You know, Afghanistan, how embarrassing that withdrawal was. That deeply hurt every veteran that went to Afghanistan. You know, and then watching the Taliban just run wreck and havoc throughout the whole entire region. You know, we're still, you know, we're still spending, sending $2 billion a year over

to Afghanistan. Yeah. Yeah. Fortunately, you know, like all of, we, we have an incredible cabinets and they are rapidly fixing these things. You know, but it's such a mess. We were left with such a mess. And the Tulsi Gabbards and the Sebastian Gorkins, the Joe Kent's, and the Mike Walts's, they just can't go fast enough. I know they can't. Let me ask you this about Tulsi Gabbard.

I worry about her. I mean, she is, I mean, she is at the gates of hell. The Intel community is just, it's just a den of vipers. You know, that's, that's the gates of the real deep state. and everything that's going on around the world. Is Tulsi surrounded by enough people to be able to pull this thing off? That's a really great question. Hate that answer.

Yeah, she's an extraordinary woman. She's brilliant. She's passionate. She loves the Constitution. She loves the uniform. She loves our country. And, you know, we got Killer Kent. Joe Kent, former Green Bray, Special Forces guy

that went to the agency as a guy that would go into, you know, combat operations for the agency, lost his wife, Shannon Kent, in that same type of world. We have Sebastian Gorka, Dr. Gorka, Andy Stewart, like the group at the very top of the Intel community, obviously Mike Waltz, another Green Beret, a former teammate of mine, these people know that the system, is fighting against them.

And then the one tier down, you know, the upper to mid-level management of the intelligence community, they are embedded operatives that are anti-everything for reform and change. So they are trying to manipulate. They are leaking things to the press that shouldn't be leaked, screen captures of chat conversations. But they're going to get caught, you know, between Cash Patel, Pam Bondi and Tulsi Gabbard, those are people you do not want to be on the opposite side of. in an adversarial position. So I tell you, Tim, I agree with that 100%,

and yet you're not seeing, I mean, this is the way the audience feels, at least. They're not seeing those agencies moving. And, you know, I talked to the president about it on Wednesday, and I said, you know, what's happening? He said, Glenn, you've got to give it time. It's still early. And what I heard from others outside of the White House

was that Congress is not giving them the people around them that they need to be able to move quickly enough. Is that going to change? I mean, is Congress going to change? No. Are you kidding me? Like that bit of Vipers, as you put it perfectly. Yeah, they're undermining and they're currently fighting against to postpone and slow to keep that Merck and Meyer, that is the intelligence community, ineffective.

And I want to make it clear. I believe that's the Republicans just as much as the Democrats. You agree with that? I do agree with that. Not all of them. There are great ones. in there. But absolutely. Like, the fact that this is not a partisan issue that our peer-level adversaries are

positioning to attack us and there are embedded, embedded terrorist cells here in the United States that are working to kill Americans and they are currently undermining our intelligence capabilities, they should be hung publicly. That's what they should. That's absolutely what should happen. It's treason what they're doing to Tolstie Gabbard and Cass Patel. agree. I agree. We're talking to Tim Kennedy, talking to the president about the border and what's going on on the border this week. And I said, you know, if if I were, you know, a Mexican citizen

and knowing that my government was in bed with the cartels, I would be hoping that, you know, some special forces just show up in the middle night and start killing people in these cartels. And he said, well, that would be newsbreaking if I said that would be a good idea. But, you know, I hope it doesn't come to that. But it was clear that that is on the table. I mean, that really has to happen. Does it not? I mean, that is a collapsed narco state in Mexico, isn't it?

Yeah, the rules of war that we are going to be experiencing for the next five to ten years are not the traditional maneuver warfare that people remember from Korea and from Vietnam and from even GWAT, where, you know, like, we know who our enemy is. These are going to be businesses. These are, you know, syndicated criminal organizations that do not fight fair. And the cartel owns both the businesses, the corporations, and the criminal networks that are involved in that. So, yes, it's absolutely on the table. And the group of people that are sitting on, like, the go button are absolute savages, Mr. Beck.

I know they are. I know some of them. And they are like, and they're just like, they're just chomping at the bit to go. I know. I know. That's the truth. We're in conversation with the cartels right now. And the cartels are saying, hey, we don't want to die.

We don't want to be wiped off the face of the planet, which we know is about to happen. So, you know, are there other options where, hey, what if we stop human trafficking? What if we stop fentanyl production entirely? What if we, you know, sex slaves? What if all of that just goes away? Why don't know if we stop and seal the border on the south side? What are you going to, like, would we maybe be allowed to transport, you know, some cocaine and some marijuana? I'm totally fine with this.

If we stop fentanyl, we stop human trafficking, we stop gun smuggling, and we stop the invasion of our border. Like, I'll, and we don't have to do a whole bunch of killing, you know, whatever. But they're, they know they're on the brink of the chance of existence. I hope they do. The, you know, when you, when you look at what is, what is happening there and what they're bringing over here, it just, it has to stop dead in its tracks. Dead in its tracks. It has to stop. And it has to stop soon. I mean, you know, the president is dealing with these courts, and which I think is just judicial insurrection, as Mike Lee puts, puts it. And it's got to stop. The president has to protect our borders and has to protect our cities. This is, you know, this is the opium wars done to China by the English, you know, 200 years ago or 150 years ago.

And now they're doing it to us. That's what's happening. Yeah. Tell me about the Christians and genocide that you believe is on the horizon. Just yesterday, back at the White House yesterday, listening to some briefs about, there's some brilliant companies that are able to do predictive modeling using literally every public and classified source of information. And there's these events that are pretty predictable. They predicted what was going to happen in Afghanistan, predict what was going to happen in Ukraine.

Well, they see regionally that on the very near horizon as soon as late summer, we are going to see. real instability throughout Centcom and the Indo-Pacific region. And some of those things, some of the catalysts that are, the data points are what are the killing of Christians. And it's happening all over Centcom and- Explain Centcom for anybody who doesn't know what Centcom means. Explain that. If you just imagine the Middle East, starting kind of in North Africa and, um,

Western Asia and everything that has lots of deserts and lots of Muslim countries. Just by coincidence, there's also Israel, sits and sent home, one of the few non-Muslim democracies in that whole entire region. And, you know, the Houthis and Hamas and Hezbollah. And then in former countries, like in Syria and Iraq, and Iraq. Afghanistan, those places. It's just a massacre of Christians right now. This is the best of the Glenn Beck podcast. It's a compilation of clips from various episodes. If you want to dig deeper into this interview, check out the full podcast episode.

So, who wants to kill themselves? No, I know I do. I've been working with you for 20 years. Not the way to start. That's how I wanted to. No, I wanted to bring this story to your attention, Glenn, because I thought it was fascinating and right up your alley in a very dark and weird twisted way. All right, good. So it's a story of Daniel Kahneman. He's a known, he's a pretty famous thinker. He came up with condiments, named after him?

Daniel Kondiment, yes. He came up with Relish. Okay, wow. And they named all the rest of the condiments after him. No. He was a, he was technically a psychologist, but he was kind of known for his work in behavioral economics. And his probably most famous work was a book called Thinking Fast and Slow, which is a great book. Yeah, great.

Yeah, great. Fascinating book. And basically breaking the way we make decisions down into a fast way, which is like instinctive and reactionary and a slow way, which is slow, methodical, logical. And a lot of times we think we're making decisions on a logical path, when we're actually making them on the fast path. And so it's a great book. He was also half of the subject of Michael Lewis's book called The Undoing Project, which is another really good book. And it's about behavioral economics is kind of where he, even though he wasn't necessarily an economist, that's where he was kind of, you know, he wound up winning the Nobel Prize in economics. So he passed away recently.

That was somewhat of a big deal. A big story in that world. Yeah, yeah. However, now we're getting the results and the sort of behind the scenes of, we're going to, you know, what happened to this guy. Wasn't hit by a bus. Was not hit by a bus. He wasn't, you know, walking, you know, in the wrong place in Ukraine.

Huh. He wasn't, you know, caught up in a tsunami in Japan. Drop dead when a house fell on him. No. That's a good guess. Okay. All right. It's actually much, much worse than that. Okay.

So March 19th, 2024, he wound up actually dying on the 26th. but he was communicating with some people on March 19th, and he was explaining how he was going to die. Now, you might say, okay, well, I mean, we kind of tease the assisted suicide part of this. You know, he's got cancer, he's got some debilitating disease. It's just going to be terrible. It can't take the pain anymore, whatever, right?

Not the case, was it? Not the case, no. In explanation, Professor Connman's included a letter that his friends would receive a few days later. Quote, I have believed since I was a teenager that the miseries and indignities of the last years of life are superfluous, and I'm acting on that belief. I am still active.

Still active. Enjoying many things in life. Enjoying them. Except for the daily news. And I will die a happy man. Okay. But my kidneys are on their last legs. The frequency of mental lapses is increasing, and I'm 90 years old.

It's time to go, end quote. Okay. So he goes through an assisted suicide. process here and kills himself over the fact that he's occasionally having mental lapses, but he still has a great life and is enjoying many things and going through life positively. Can I stop you here? Yes. I am torn on this stuff so badly.

Are you? Yeah, because the libertarian in me is like, whatever, dude, your life. However, the God part of me says, you're not God. You're not God. Life is sacred and you should be grateful for every second that you have. Yeah. And I think that's certainly where I land on it. Because as a person who's a libertarian, I think that's really only hitting the legal part of this conversation.

Yes. Right? Like you could sit here and say, well, people should be able to kill themselves. By the way, they do it all the time, and you can't really stop them. It's really hard to stop them. A lot of those circumstances are very tragic, but it's really difficult to stop someone from jumping out of a building or jumping off a bridge or injecting themselves with something or overdosing. Sure. This happens.

Sure. Especially when the president says, put pneumonia right into your veins. Right. How many people did that? How many people? Immediately rushed out and injected bleach, even though he didn't say that at all. Right. So from a libertarian stance, of course, we would frown upon that decision.

Yes. But legally, it's difficult to stop people. of course a different situation when you're talking about having doctors assist you in that process. You know what I really like is it harkens back to the old-timey Germany days, you know, where the doctors are like, Mondeve put a little bit of this in your vein, then you go sleepy, sleep. Right. You know, it just makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, and then you die.

And then you die. So what I find fascinating about this is multiple things. Number one, just the, how we're just turning off. what we used to believe was the sanctity of life. So hang on just a second. Isn't this the same guy or is there another guy that said this week about being just feeling useless, that I don't really have a purpose anymore. Hmm.

Could be. Could be the same. And I thought, hmm, that's really, you know, that's not a reason to kill yourself. You know, you feel useless. You feel like you don't have a purpose. You should find one. You should find one because there is a purpose in life. Yeah.

And that's kind of the goal is to find your purpose. purpose, you know, no matter what it is. And if we're just shutting ourselves off because there's, you know, I don't really feel like there's a purpose. How many of our teenagers feel that way right now? And that's really awful. Yeah. And by the way, Canada will let you off yourself if you're a teenager and you feel like,

you know, I just don't have any purpose or will to live. Okay. If you're feeling, you know, meh. Yeah. If you hit the me standard. Well, the official diagnosis has to be meh. And it has to be met. That has to be met by two doctors.

doctors. I mean, Germany had three, but Canada is only requiring two. Good job, guys. Don't live up to those Nazi standards. There's one other detail to this that was revealed to me only after I printed the article. I want to give you that in a second, but listen to a little bit more of this. Despite his advanced age, this person who went up killing himself, was still capable of research and writing and could still enlighten audiences on how to make better decisions. Apart from his intellectual gifts, he was healthy enough to participate in friendship and family life. Why did none of this give him sufficient reason to continue to live? The answer, we believe, can be found toward the end of an interview we did with him. He surprised us by denying that

his work had any objective significance. Other people happen to respect it, and they say that it's for the benefit of humanity, but I just like to get up in the morning because I like the work. We pushed back arguing that there are objectively good things to do with one's life, but he resisted. I feel like I live my life well, he said, but it's a feeling. I'm just reasonably happy with what I've done. I would say that if there's an objective point of view, then I'm totally irrelevant to it. If you look at the universe and the complexity of the universe, what I do with my day cannot be relevant. That's the quote I was referring to.

Oh, okay. That's the quote I was referring to. Yeah, it can't be relevant. I have no relevancy. Really? I was just with a... How old is Trump? 81?

Seriously, how old was it? No, he's not that old. He's in the 70s. Seventy- 79? Yeah. I mean, he's almost 80. Oddly, you looked older

in the interview, which was interesting. Shut up. I felt older to run him. But the guy is like, I mean, you want to find a purpose? Look at that guy. 78, by the way.

78. Look at the purpose on that guy. I mean, I think this is maybe the most important purpose of his entire life. And he's done a lot. Yeah, and he's done a lot. And your life has no meaning whatsoever.

You have to find it. That's that's your part of the deal. God gives you life. Then you find out what the purpose is. And you think about so many younger people, especially in we've talked about the Jonathan Height book several times about this sort of empty feeling that younger people have. Because everything is all about buying stuff, being famous, all of the things empty that are empty they have no meaning you get you know you know what gives you meaning and i know

this sounds horrible work work it's not horrible to say that work gives is help is part of what gives it is i don't like work i don't like it either i mean gosh you look at my resume i've been with you for a very long time i don't like it all work for me at least uh i don't like it i don't like hard work hard but there is something about doing something getting up every day is something I say my son he's like I don't know get your ass out of bed make your bed go find something to do no matter how meaninglessly meaningless it is find meaning in it by doing it well you're going to make a hamburger make the best damn hamburger anyone can make you will come home beat to snot tired but you will find purpose in your life just by doing things.

That's, I mean, I'm sorry. That's just what has to be said. Boy, am I getting to be that old where I'm like that kind of old, jumpy man? Just get off your ass and do something.

Get a job. Get a job. Yeah. That is crucial. You'd like, by the way, David Bonson's book, it's called Full Time Work and the Meaning of Life.

And that's exactly what the book's about is about, it's true. You do find purpose. in this and that's good. You know, my son and I, we went out, I don't know, a couple of years ago. And I'm not a, it's going to come as a surprise to you. I mean, because you look at me and you're like, well, that is a, he is a hardworking man. I don't do a lot of manual labor.

Never have. You're kidding me. But you own a ranch. What do you mean? There's a horse in the middle of our logo. You're riding horses around a big. I do. And I have people that saddle that horse, bring that horse to me.

You know, I go up to farmers and I shake their hands and they're like, what the hell? I just, I mean, my wife's hands aren't as soft as yours. And I'm like, I'm a day of my life, Jack. So, but I don't, I, mm-mm, annual labor, don't like it. Avoid it like the plague always have. But my son and I, we went and we had to go build fences, you know, uh, you know, on the ranch. And then we, we had to take down and we had to sand, uh, these gates down and, you know, get all the rust off of them and paint them and everything. It was the best week either of us. We worked so hard all the whole time.

We would come in and we could just barely sit at the table and eat. And both of us look at those pictures of those times and go, that was fun. We weren't thinking that at the time. But there is something about that. There is, you know, it's like how everybody looks at their worst time of their life. Oh, it's such a strong. struggle away and we just barely. But when you get past it, you go back and you look at it and you go like those were actually good times. Those were good times. They always say this. I wouldn't want to do them

again. Don't want to repeat them. But those were good times. Why? Because that struggle, you learned something about yourself. You, you, you were pushed into areas that you didn't, you didn't know you even had. That's what gives you purpose. That's what, that's what, that's what, that's what, that's what teaches you is the hard things, the hard work, the hard knocks, all of this teaches us something. And our society has rejected it 100%. I don't want to do that. That sounds hard. I don't want to do that job.

That sounds hard. You're going to make me take a test? That sounds hard. I got to do what? No, that sounds hard. That connects directly to what Andrew Cleveland was talking about yesterday at this time. You know, he's talking about murders. He was taking positives out of murders because it turned into art and all these incredible thought.

Correct. Experiments and ways that we learn and evolved. And you could find it everywhere. That's part of life, right? Yeah. It's what will save us in the end. Should all of this just come apart? Okay.

And I hope it doesn't. But should the next four years show that, yeah, they gave it a college try and it just fell apart. and we're in really bad times. What will be the difference? We'll be those who choose to say, this is going to be for our own good. Good will come of this. I don't know what shape.

I don't know how. I have no idea because I'm not God. And I can't predict what's coming next, but I know this will turn out to be good. Those people will survive and they will be happy. those who look at it and like everything's horrible and I can't do anything and we just need help those people will destroy themselves and any opportunity to get out very true let me give you this last paragraph here professor connemann signaled concern that he did not end his if he did

not end his life when he was clearly mentally competent he could lose control over the remainder of it and live and die with needless misery and indignities. One lesson to learn from his death is that if we are to live well to the end, we need to be able to freely discuss when a life is complete without shame or taboo. Such a discussion may help people to know what they really want. We may regret their decisions, but we should respect their choices and allow them to end their lives with dignity.

So I printed this story out so we could talk about it on the air. And I didn't notice this detail until I printed it out, which was the the author of the story, one of the two authors. A name from the past, Glenn. Peter Singer. Oh my God. Is that guy still alive? He's still alive.

Has he thought about shortening his life? Yes, a lot, apparently. He has not taken that path quite yet. Peter Singer, a name that you may remember, we've talked about him 100 million times going back many years. 100 million years. Yeah. If you're a long-term listener, you'll remember his name. He was the guy who advocated.

for a period of 28 days after birth to be able to abort your child. And he did apologize for that. He did. He said that wasn't long enough. He should have up to two years. He said, until a child can realize that there is a tomorrow, they're not really a human. Right. And so until they say to you, what are we going to do tomorrow, you can kill them.

That's honestly. And by the way, he was a professor of ethics. Maybe he still is chair of ethics at Princeton University. Yeah, not just some guy. No. Princeton University. And you can kill your child until they say, what are we going to do tomorrow, dad? He said killing a newborn baby is never equivalent to killing a person.

Now, that might indicate that he thinks that a newborn baby is not a person, which is basically what he's saying. Well, he's also saying it at the end, you're not really a person. Yeah. Once you decide you're not a person, you're not a person. And this is deep into left-wing thought here. These are these are prominent people who are discussing. And by the way, some of them acting on this way of thinking about life, which is, it's really not much of value. Here's the scariest thing.

They're the people also that are advising the biggest minds behind things like AI. Yeah. AI. These people talking to AI and setting the priorities of AI and telling it what is life. I mean, this is, these, we're living in a health. We really are. We're living in a coming hellscape if we don't wake up pretty soon. And we do in this president doesn't win and we don't finish the transition. We don't seal this this this cave of darkness back off. You know, we did that in 1945. It needs to be sealed off again. We let it survive because we said it was our ally and we let it survive and go into China and Russia. And we let it. them, we let them kill millions of people there. And we still play footsy with it.

And that's why that cave opened back up. And all that darkness is spilled back into our culture. And we got to push it back. This is your purpose. Pushing back on darkness. So the light can prevail because darkness is, it's alive and it is pushing hard. And we have to be stronger. Look, we win.

All you have to do is turn on the light. And that dispels darkness. Have you even found your light yet? Turn it on. Push the darkness back where it belongs.