The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guest: Wynton Hall | 3/17/26

Episode Date: March 17, 2026

Glenn explains that six stories that may seem unrelated at first are actually connected and perfectly encapsulate the problems America is facing, including the possibility of qualified immunity for government officials. Glenn warns that these are not just stories; these are sirens, warning you of what's happening in our country. Glenn discusses Joe Kent's resignation from leading the Counterterrorism Center over disagreements with American involvement in Iran. Wynton Hall, Government Accountability Institute distinguished fellow and author of "Code Red," joins to explain why there is no way to opt out of the AI revolution, so we better be prepared.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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right now Boy we've talked about some amazing things today first I start with six stories that

you may not believe are connected but they they are everything is connected in the world

of news today and I take six stories and connect them together so you can see the real picture that

I don't think people are tying it together enough they don't see but there is a red light

warning going on every day so we start there Also, this letter from Joe Kent, who was Director of Intelligence, he resigns and he says, we are in war because of Israel, and I can't be a part of it anymore. Cover that as it was breaking during a broadcast. Also, Winton Hall joins me.

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At the Government Accountability Institute with Peter Swizer, he is also a former visiting fellow at Stanford's Hoover Institution, lives in Tallahassee with his family. Where do we even begin, Winton? I mean, you have covered all of it in this book, really, really well done. Well, thank you, Glenn. I want to thank you. I mean, you've been ahead on this issue so many years, and actually, it was your book Propaganda Wars that really focused my attention for Code Red on the deep fake political implications. So thank you for all of that. I think the thing to begin with is just really understanding for conservatives, the importance of understanding that this is not hype.

And one of the problems I'm seeing a lot in the circles of these conversations is people say, you know, look, I've tried chaty BT. I got a hallucination. It's not there yet. That's not AI. That's not AI. That's right. Exactly.

And so when you just have that kind of an understanding, that surface level, you don't realize that there is so much more than just a simple chat bot. As you said, you know, Elon's saying there is a. supersonic tsunami headed toward humanity. Now, when you hear that, you either have to decide, is that all hype marketing to raise capital for investors, or is, you know, one of the richest people that's ever inhabited the planet? I think that when you think of a tsunami, you know, and you're sitting on the beach shore to get ready and prepare. And then what are the political power graphs that are about to happen? Because what I want people to understand, particularly

conservative Americans, is that whether you think it's all hype, and fear-mongering, or whether it comes to fruition, it really doesn't matter from a political perspective, because the forces for redistribution and UBI, universal basic income will weaponize that fear to build public support one way or the other. I couldn't agree with you more. I absolutely believe it is not hype. I think it's coming faster than anyone expected. I know it is, but I don't believe it's hype.

But even if it is, just think of the hype of global warming. This is the new global warming for any kind of, you know, it's laying the railroad tracks for any kind of policies like UBI, you know, socialized everything. This is building the railroad tracks right now and nobody sees it. You are a grid, just as a metaphor, it's the ability to scan and ban. what you say. We all know in the conservative movement what has happened with the global disinformation index and demonetizing and delisting conservative media and silencing the president. That control grid remains. And so right now, of course, they're going to play along

and, you know, there's a Republican House and Senate and White House and President Trump. But the powers in Silicon Valley have been building this control grid and have been organized on these topics for many years. Let me give you one example. I think it's really striking. So I spent two years deep diving into this world and one that stood out to me. In 2016, a young man went on a blog and he said, I would like to fund a study and I want to give $1,000 every single month and I want to give it to low-income people and I want no strings attached, otherwise known as what you and I would call, you know, universal basic income, Glenn.

And he said, I want to see what will happen. Will they, you know, do create new jobs? Will they just waste time? And then he said, the reason I want to do this study is because I think in the future, technology is going to require some type of replacement income. The young man who funded that study, funded a longitudinal study, $60 million, put in 14. Now, why in 2016 UBI study in American history six years before the front-facing arrival of ChachyPT in November of 2022? It is because Silicon Valley has viewed this technology as a way to remake and make. and reset capitalism, free markets, the entire economic structure, what they would call a post-labor

society. And when you think of the, you know, Judeo-Christian, Protestant work ethic, in that note, he says, I think we will view it as silly that we ever considered work, a fear of not being able to eat. Certainly, if you look at scripture, the idea of striving for economic flourishing for your family. So they really are remaking the world. And the long time, you saw it coming early. I'm very concerned that people have, and on our side really understood the 5D chess game and the speed with which this is happening. And that's why I called it code red. Two reasons. One, an alert flare. And two, our side, the red team needs a code. We need a set of principles of how we're going to get through this for our kids and ourselves and our country.

Hit that basically, just quickly, because you really outline it in the book. But hit, how do we deal with this with our kids? Glenn, I think the future teaching our kids how to find jobs, but how to create them. And that's one of the more hopeful parts of this AI era. You will have superpowered for those people who have fire in the belly for entrepreneurship, a real opportunity to do way more with way less. And so I would say there's three pieces for parents and grandparents. Number one, I know you're very concerned about the erosion of critical thinking and education.

the trivium has served us for centuries, the trivium, logic, grammar, and rhetoric. And I think that classical model of really building strong, independent minds that can seek out truth and know when they're being spun and when they're actually dealing in truth, that has served humanity for so long, and we have to keep that. So that's your base layer of your pyramid. Second layer is the entrepreneurial tools, showing that your daughter or your son or your grandchild, how to build a business, regardless of whatever their passion or their God-given calling is in their life, so they know how to set up an LLC. They know how to set up a website. They understand

advertising. Those skills will be a great template that can move with where the world is going in AI. And then the third layer is the AI tools, because you rightly said, we don't get to opt out of this. I mean, I think one of the misconceptions people think is, oh, I don't have to use AI. First of all, you already do use AI. 99% of us use AI every single day, even though 64% of people don't know when they're using it. How is that? Your weather apps, your streaming service, social media algorithms. And so if we're going to have to use it in a modern world, we might as well learn to use it well. So I think if we have that mindset of strong minds with the trivium, the entrepreneurial layer, and the AI piece, that's the best way to build moats for our children and grandchildren to really

teach them how to create those jobs, not just to how to fill out a resume. I have to, I have to tell you, I'm probably a year away from the AI that I've been working on, uh, being even close to right. Um, and I'm getting so much heat from people and I'm like, why are you using AI? And don't you know, yeah, AI is evil and yada, yada, yada. And I'll never use AI. And I, I'm telling you, this is, uh, what's, what this is going to lead to is a, is a, world where you're going to use AI, whether you like it or not, unless you're Amish, you're going to use AI. And it's going to be somebody else's AI, just like we used the media that was built by someone else. And we were like, oh, well, I don't need to be into me. I've got

the three channels. I got the networks, ABC, NBC, CBS, and now I've got CNN and MSNBC. And it's all going to be fine. You're using something that somebody else is building. And I'm telling you, if the conservative movement doesn't get on to AI. I don't think you're ever going to catch up. This time, you'll just be boxed out. You just won't catch up. The conservative movement must be involved in this. Do you agree or disagree?

I just said that, and we should say it often. Look, the left would love nothing more than for conservatives to unilaterally disarm with the greatest and most powerful information weapon ever devised by human minds and put on the battlefield of ideas. I mean, so, yes, on the one hand, we can lament this reality, but we have to accept this reality, and I think that means understanding that this bullet train has already left the station, and we have to be on it, and we have to really understand what I call the roses

of possibility that there are, and there are, don't want to suggest that it's all doom. But we have to understand that we also have numerous landmines, political new landmines, that we are going to have to learn how to navigate around. And you can't do that if you don't understand the technology. So you're absolutely right, Glenn. And it's one of those buffers. I mean, look, as conservatives, you know, we want to stand upwork history going to stop.

But, right, but Buckley wasn't saying, you know, that we stopped technological innovation. He was saying we stop the erosion of the, diminution of the values that have instantiated human history for millennia. So I think that we have to adopt these tools. And one of the things, though, that we really do need to understand is just how woke and biased they are and how the left has very specific agenda for weaponizing these tools against us. Oh, and you get Trump out of there, and it is going to come back with a vengeance.

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or go to preborn.com slash back. sponsored by Freeborn. Now back to the podcast. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and don't forget, rate us on iTunes. What have I told you? The biggest story in America right now is not just one story. It's six, and maybe not the six that you think. Six different headlines, scattered, unrelated, easy to scroll pass.

But every single one of them is telling you the same thing. And let me show you. Because you'll see it. Once you step back, you'll see it. Right now, you're being told stories about fraud, about courts, about China, about crime, about debt, about war. And they all seem separate. But they are not. They are one story.

And the story, it's a story about the system itself. We know, quietly, buried almost as an afterthought, that the U.S. intelligence and had evidence, Joe Biden had evidence that China was accessing now American voter registration data in 2020. We now know this to be true. We have the evidence. We have the documents. And it was hidden. And it was hidden from members of Congress, hidden from the people.

Now, think about this. This is not a conspiracy theory. This is not a guess. This is a conspiracy fact. It's known and it was filed away and ignored. And while the country argued about everything else, at the same exact time, now a new national fraud task force is being launched. First story, number one, we have voter fraud. We knew about it. China was hacking all of our voter data, voter data in 2020. No one knew about it. I'm sorry. Some people knew about it. They didn't tell you.

anybody else. And they told us this is the safest election ever. Story number two, there is so much fraud in this country that I believe if we found even half of it, we would balance the budget. Stop. Sit with this for a second. We are 39 trillion dollars in debt. And the claim is, not that we need to grow our way out or cut our spending, but that the money is already there. It's just being stolen. New task force started. Donald Trump says it's going to get to the bottom of it. He's got J.D. Vance on it. I'm going to go into this story. I'm going to expand on all of these stories. But the question is, is our money being stolen? Is our money being lost? Is it hidden? I think we need to know. Are we being robbed? Or are we being robbed? Or are we

just going broke. I think we should know that. Because those are two different things, two different countries. And while that question now hangs in the air, let me give you the third story. The Supreme Court is quietly, patiently, reconsidering something

most Americans have never even heard of. It's called qualified immunity. A doctrine in plain English that means government officials can violate your rights and you can't do anything about it. unless someone else has already been violated in exactly the same way. I mean exactly the same way.

Now, think about that standard. Not was it wrong, but has this exact wrong been done before and then written down? That's the standard. That's been the standard now for a couple of decades. Why? Why? that's the Constitution protecting the government, not protecting you and your rights. So at the exact same moment that we're discovering possible foreign access to our elections in 2020,

massive systematic fraud, exploding debt, the one question that actually matters is, will anyone be held accountable? Well, the answer, until now, has largely been no. This isn't just happening in Washington. It's happening on your street. Listen to this story. In Las Vegas, police refused to release a violent offender. 35 arrests.

Manslaughter. Conviction. A judge said, release him. The police said, not on your life. The judge said, well, I'll hold you in contempt. They said, go ahead. hold us in contempt. Excuse me, what's happening here?

You understand how extraordinary this is? This is not a policy disagreement. This is the system breaking in real time. Because when the people inside the system stop trusting the system, they have to start choosing something else. Survival. And all of this is happening. All of this is happening while the world outside our borders

is shifting just as fast. The United States is now asking our allies to stand with it in one of the most critical choke points on earth, the Straits of Ormuse. Okay, now this part I love. Because what is Donald Trump doing? Donald Trump is doing what he did

to the Democrats at the state of the Union. We don't need Europe. What does Germany have? One ship? France, he said yesterday, France is helping, and I love this quote from Donald Trump, but it's France.

But the UK won't help. What is he doing? He's saying, I don't need your help. We don't need your help. But you're our ally, right? And the world's oil is at stake. You want to send down some help to help us guard the strait of Hormuz? And they're saying no.

No, not our war, not our problem. Germany, the UK, stepping back, not leading in. Well, wait a minute. What is our alliance all about? NATO, partnerships, unity. That's what we always have heard. Now when it matters, hesitation, distance, excuses. So let me line these six stories up for you.

Because here's where it all starts to change if you look at it from a distance. We have a system that is compromised and China is accessing our voter data and nobody in Washington told you or the lawmakers about it. We have a system that is corrupted, massive fraud draining our resources. somebody is stealing. Do we know who? We have a system that is mathematically unsustainable, $39 trillion in debt. We have a system that avoids accountability, qualified immunity. We have a system now breaking down locally, police defying courts to protect citizens. And a system losing global cohesion.

Our allies stepping back in real time. what is happening here? Because this isn't politics, this isn't left versus right. This is not even policy. This is structural. This is what happens when the things you were told were solid are liquid. And everything starts to shift. Everything starts to move.

So here's what you need to think about. When the people you listen to or watch stand too close to the news they can't see the actual picture. It's hard. It's hard to see the real picture because human nature tells you, look away. It's called the normalcy bias. These are separate stories. Don't look at them.

But when you see a story, you think it's bad but not connected. In reality, they are connected. Each dot makes up a picture. And a picture like this doesn't happen all at once. It happens slowly. It happens quietly. It happens individually. And each piece is explainable in itself. So every story by itself is dismissable until one day you realize they were never separate stories at all. They were all what? They're not stories. They're signals. Their sirens. Their warnings. And now here we are. the moment where you have to decide when you're looking at the news,

what am I actually looking at? Am I looking at now these stories because all of them are being uncovered? So that means the government is actually starting to do its job and uncovering these things. So is this a correction? Is the system finally cleaning itself up? finally confronting fraud, confronting corruption, restoring accountability, having our allies take a stand one way or another, or is this what it looks like when a system begins to lose control of itself?

Because empires don't collapse because of one event. They collapse because trust erodes, systems fail, accountability completely disappears, and people stop believing. And when that happens, you don't get chaos overnight. You get something more dangerous. You get drift. Institutions that drift apart. Allies drift away.

Truth drifts out of reach. And the average person sitting at the kitchen table looking at the bills, looking at the headlines, looking at the world, says, something's not right. I don't know what it is. I can't take it anymore. Because you've stopped believing. When you stop looking at all of the stories as broken up and separate stories,

and you look at them at one. Yes, it can be overwhelming, but then the answer is clearer. The question is, what is this moment? Because if this is a correction and we lean into it, we fix it, we demand the truth, we rebuild. But if this is collapsed,

then the most dangerous thing we can do is pretend it's normal. So what is the solution? There's the picture in six stories. What's the solution? The solution is, wake up, if you're not awake, wake up and recognize where we are in history. Look at the two choices in front of us. Are we correcting it?

Because there is a movement to correct it right now. Are you part of that movement? Or are you part of the movement that says, I just can't do anything about it, just let it slide, it's over. I know which side I've chosen. I demand we tear down the corruption while others try to tear down the system. We tear down the corruption. I demand we believe that this country is worth saving and taking the steps every day to preserve our principles in our own families, in our own neighborhood, in our own town, in our own state. There's six stories. Six stories today. That's all it is.

six headlines. But if you read them separately, you're not going to get it. When you see them together, those six stories become everything. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. Jason, I'd like you in on this, if possible. Jason, our head researcher, and he watches over global military. He used to be in military intel.

There's something that has just happened that is remarkably historic. I want to read it to you. President Trump, this comes from the Director of National Intelligence and National Counterterrorism Center, Joseph Kent. President Trump, after much reflection, I've decided to resign from my position as director of the National Counterterrorism Center effective today. I cannot in good conscience support the ongoing war in Iran. Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation, and it is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby.

I know. This is so damaging. This is this is Pentagon paper stuff. This is as important as the Pentagon Papers. This is going to possibly, change the course of America. I support the values of foreign policies that you campaigned on in 16, 2020, 2020, which you enacted in your first term.

Until June of 2025, you understood that wars in the Middle East were a trap that robbed America of the precious lives of our patriots and depleted the wealth and prosperity of our nation. In your first administration, you understood better than any modern president how to decisively apply military power without getting us drawn into a never-ending war. You demonstrated this by killing Soleimani and defeating ISIS. Early in this administration, high-ranking Israeli officials and influential members of the American media deployed a misinformation campaign that wholly undermined your American first platform and sewed pro-war sentiments to encourage a war with Iran. This echo chamber was used to deceive you into believing that Iran posed an imminent threat to the United States.

this is incredible. You can say a lot of things, but to say that Donald Trump is a dupe and has been duped by a foreign power because he wasn't smart enough to figure it out is absolutely insane. Insane. Deceive you

that you should strike now and that there was a clear path to a swift victory. This was a lie. and it is the same tactic the Israelis used to draw us into a disaster Iraq war that cost our nation the lives of thousands of our best men and women. We cannot make this mistake again. This is going to set the world on fire. As a veteran who deployed to combat 11 times and as a gold star husband who lost my beloved wife Shannon in a war manufactured by Israel, I cannot support sending the next generation off to fight and die in a war.

that serves no benefit to the American people, nor justifies the cost of American lives. I pray you will reflect upon what you are doing in Iran and who we are doing it for. The time for bold action is now. You can't. No, you can't. You can reverse course and chart a new path for our nation. You can allow, you, you can, or you can allow us to slip further toward decline and chaos. You hold the cards.

It was an honor to serve in your administration and to serve our great nation. Joseph Kent. This is a senior official in intelligence, saying in real time that the United States has entered a war under false pretenses that Israel got us into the first war in Iraq, and now they duped the American president into fighting this war. This is going to fracture public trust. this is the worst letter that could be done that I have ever seen if you want to hold if you're trying to win an election this is the worst thing

our allies now are going to be questioning our judgment our enemies are going to exploit this like crazy the war effort now if you don't think you have given aid and comfort to Iran you just have, you've told them exactly what I'm telling you right now. It's going to be bad. It's going to be bad. I don't know how you survive things like this because

this guy has just taken gasoline and thrown tanks of it into a bonfire that was already burning. And that fire that is burning is not the Islamic fires, but the Jews are bad. fires. This is probably the most serious break, internal breaks over a war decision in modern history. Never seen anything like this. And there's going to have to be investigations on it. And, you know, I hope we get to the truth on this. But now we've just added that one to the fire. It was already burning out of control, I thought. Jason, your analysis on this? I think that we need an immediate statement from D&I Tulsi Gabbard immediately to go into the details that they probably did not even want to go into at the moment, but they're going to have to now.

This is incredibly irresponsible and it needs to be cleared up five minutes ago. They need to do that they need to go into rapid damage control mode and explain exactly. point by point and counter everything Joe Kent just said. Now, I don't have a problem with, so Joe Kent has always, he's always seemed to me to be kind of like a, you know, a very libertarian voice within the administration. And his wife dying in Syria, I'm sure that pushed him further towards the no war camp. And I can get that. I like having, you know, an anti-Bolton style group of people within it. We need those voices. But this is so, irresponsible. You might as well just say that, you know, I read the protocols of the elders of

Zion and, you know, the Jews control the world. He basically said that. He basically said that. He basically said that. Jews control the United States of America. Come on. This is so irresponsible. I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like this. And the only reason I haven't. Saying something like this, you might as well, it's got to be an intention grab. It's got to be. I don't know. He's throwing in. And again, unlike the Pentagon papers, where's the evidence of this? There's no evidence of this.

So he has just taken, and this was my problem, and I said this yesterday, I've said this every day since the war started. I don't need more opinions. I need more facts. I'm tired of opinions. I want facts. If this is true, back it up with facts. Show me how this happened.

You know, he's made charges here. that they deceived the president in believing that Iran, I'm sorry. Have you ever talked to the president of the United States? Do you, I mean, do you have any understanding of who this guy is? I have, I can't imagine anyone being able to deceive him into, you know, hey, go fight Iran, I mean, Israel's war. You might deceive him on, hey, there are some, but I'd like to see the evidence. You might be able to, with evidence, say, Mr. President, see the pictures that they showed you here, see the stats that they showed you here.

Here are the stats that say, that's not true. I could see somebody coming, you know, a group of people coming into the Oval and briefing the president and saying, Mr. President, here is the information. but I also believe somebody like Joe Kent and this is why he was important a libertarian point of view is important to go into the Oval Office because that's when you go into the Oval Office

and say, Mr. President, these things are not true. Then the President would have said, I'm just guessing here, but I know Donald Trump well enough to know he's not a dupe. That's when somebody like Joe Kent would have come in and said, Mr. President, these things are wrong. And the president would have said

Joe, can you show me the evidence that this is wrong? Can you prove that? Because I have this evidence over here. And I don't want to go to war. I don't want to do that. He would have said that. I don't want to do this, but I have this. Can you prove that to be wrong?

No. Well, then Joe, what do I do? Do I take Joe's word for it? Or do I take the evidence that has been presented by my own intel. That's exactly what the president would have done. Ricky, I want to bring you in on this. Yeah. One thing to point out is that I'm pretty sure Vice President J.D. Vance is aligned in his foreign policy worldview with Joe Kent. But what you don't hear from J.D. Vance is it was an honor to serve the president, but also he's lying to you. We are all lying to

you. So there's that. And then the other thing I'd like to know is who is pulling Trump by the nose? Is it Israel or is it the Arab leaders? Just in the last 24 hours, we have headlines stating that several Gulf states are urging Trump to keep going on Iran and to fully dismantle them. No. So is Trump run by the nose? No, no, no, no, that's not possible because Israel is doing this so they can destroy their Arab neighbors and keep them, you know, keep them under their turn. so that's not true.

None of those things actually happened. Do you have any evidence that those things happened, Ricky? Don't get me started. I didn't want to bring this story to you. You do, no, you do have the evidence. You have the written word from those allies that are all Arabs. Yes, I have that. Do you have the evidence to the other side that Israel is trying to,

do this war to destroy the Arab world. No, you have an opinion. Well, I've got an ass and an opinion. They're both worth exactly the same thing. They're not worth a damn thing. Give me the facts. That is the problem with this country. You have too many people like me who are paid to give you an opinion and perspective on what the hell all of this means. Unfortunately, there are so many of us that some people have to get a leg up on somebody else. I've got to get more clicks. I've got to get more advertisers.

I've got to get more followers. I got to get whatever it is. And so they no longer attach themselves to facts. I have some things that I think I know about this situation that I think is really, important, but I'm not going to share them because I don't have any facts to back them up. I don't have any evidence to back it up. I have gut feelings. So, Glenn, why don't you say it? Because they're gut feelings. They're not facts. And when you're talking about the destruction

of people, when you're talking about war and killing people, when you're talking about possibility of World War III, when you're talking about dividing this nation into two groups, I hate them, Jews. And I just want to know what the truth is. I don't want to get involved in anybody else's. When you're dividing us this hard on something this dark, produce the damn evidence, Joe. produce the evidence. If you're right, I'll stand with you. But produce the damn evidence.

All you did was while other people were just pouring gasoline over our entire nation, all of our institutions, you just sat in the corner and just like, I'm just going to flick matches. I'm going to flick matches. Let me tell you what I know, but I'm not going to tell you how I know it. I can't prove anything. It's just my gut feeling. Produce the evidence, Joe. Square knows that in hospitality, efficiency is everything. That's why their system lets you take payments.

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