The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: AG Andrew Bailey & William Hertling | 1/27/25

Episode Date: January 27, 2025

President Trump sparred with the President of Colombia over the weekend after Colombia refused to accept flights of illegal immigrants deported from the United States. However, after Trump slammed Co...lombia with repercussions, the president of Colombia backed down. "A.I. Apocalypse" author William Hertling joined to discuss the profound risks that AI poses if left unchecked.  Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey (R)  joins to explain how his state may have found a way to hold China accountable for the COVID-19 pandemic.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:19 not wanting to take the migrants back, aid to foreign countries and California and so much more. Also, AI, with William Hurtling, an hour you don't want to miss. And the Attorney General of Missouri who says, we're suing China for COVID.
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Starting point is 00:02:07 Switch to Patriot Mobile today. Defend freedom with every call and text you make. PatriotMobil.com slash Beck or call 972 Patriot. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. I want to start with what a week it is better. Donald Trump has done more in his first 100 hours than any president has done in his first 100 days. It has been breathtaking to see what's been going on. Let's just recap quickly.
Starting point is 00:02:50 First, he unleashed a wide swath of powers for the government to secure America's borders and apprehend and arrest illegals, hiding in cities and communities around the nation. He made a promise he would clean it up, and boy is he. Cut six. I want to go back to those military flights going south. As you said, we have never seen that before. Is that going to be a constant commitment from the U.S. military every single day to take deportees out? Yes. So is this what we will see every single day ending in what the president has promised is millions and millions being deported? Yes. But you can see that?
Starting point is 00:03:32 number steadily increased, the number of arrests nationwide as we open up the aperture. Right now is concentrating public safety threats, national security threats. That's a smaller population. So we're going to do this on priority base, as President Trump's promise, but as that aperture opens, there'll be more arrest nationwide. Now, she could ask a third time, but no, but really, is this what we're going to see? Because I never heard her ask that question when Joe Biden was putting people on commercial aircraft and shipping them here. Did you hear that question from anybody? Why is it only asked now when they're going back home?
Starting point is 00:04:06 SOT 28, please. This is the video of, I believe these are nations that are getting on the plane. Oh, darn it. Shoot. Go to the next cut, please. So, well, that was Guatemala. These are people arriving in Mexico. from the United States.
Starting point is 00:04:39 There's a lot of immigration. Everybody is coming home. I don't recommend going. Okay, so he's got that down. He's been doing that. One last cut, please. This is J.D. Vance, I believe, cut four. Well, this is a country founded by immigrants.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Well, this is a country founded by... This is a very unique country, and it was founded by some immigrants and some settlers, but just because we were founded by immigrants, doesn't mean that 240 years later that we have to have the dumbest immigration policy in the world. So they are just going for it. Just going for it.
Starting point is 00:05:15 No more catch and release. No more waving of migrants across the border without proper vetting. It's just it's all over. Proper vetting, by the way. Here's J.D. Vans again, cut three. When you talk to us in August, you said, I don't think we should abandon anybody who's been properly vetted and helped us. Do you stand by that?
Starting point is 00:05:35 Well, Margaret, I don't agree that all these immigrants or all these refugees have been properly vetted. In fact, we know that there are cases of people who allegedly were properly vetted, and then we're literally planning terrorist attacks on our country. That happened during the campaign, if you may remember. So clearly not all of these foreign nationals have been properly vetted. But there are 30,000 people in the pipeline Afghan refugees. But my primary concern as the Vice President, Margaret, is to look after the American people. And now that we know that we have vetting problems with a lot of these refugee programs,
Starting point is 00:06:05 we absolutely cannot unleash thousands of unvetted people into our country. These people are not good. These people are vetted. Just like a guy who complained a terrorist attack in Oklahoma a few months ago, he was allegedly properly vetted, and many people in the media and the Democratic Party said that he was properly vetted. Clearly he wasn't. I don't want my children to share a neighborhood with people who are not properly vetted,
Starting point is 00:06:27 and because I don't want it for my kids, I'm not going to force any other American citizens' kids to do that either. No, and that was a very particular case. it wasn't clear if he was radicalized when he got here or while he was living here. I don't really care, Margaret. I don't want that person in my country, and I think most Americans agree with me. I so love the fact that the media just still cannot get their arms around common sense. This guy's going to stop getting booked. He's going to stop getting interviews. They're going to stop asking him.
Starting point is 00:06:55 He's winning too much. He's so good. They're not even going to allow this to occur. Okay, so last week, President Trump made it clear males are males, females are feet. The two shall never meet in school bathrooms, in athletics, in areas where sexes are sensibly separated for the safety and privacy of women. He also pulled out America out of the China-fawning communist-enabling world health organization, yanked America from the Paris Climate Agreement.
Starting point is 00:07:24 He designated cartels and terror groups as terrorist groups. I have to tell you, the cartel thing, you watch. They're just going to start disappearing. They're just going to start disappearing. They're just going to like, what happened? What happened to Geraldo? And I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:43 I don't know what happened. Heraldo? It's not the Geraldo. Yeah, it is. But that's who I was thinking. I think he's a drug cartel. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Anyway, he also called on his treasury and commerce chiefs to root out all unfair trade practices and recommend American first policies to take their places. he started the external revenue service to take money from foreign sources. He banned government officials from using social media as a tool of censorship and propaganda. He got rid of all of the climate change mandates and the electrical vehicle thing. It was a snowstorm of biblical proportions last week. And he sent the clear message, new sheriff in town. I don't think you're going to want to screw with us.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Then he went to North Carolina, who is still suffering, and he told them, you know what, I think I'm going to get rid of FEMA. So then he went to California, and oh, wasn't that satisfying. So let me get into what happened just over the weekend. First story, probably the most important story. I don't know. You might have been watching football. like I was yesterday and Stu was,
Starting point is 00:09:08 but there was something really important going on all day yesterday with Columbia. And I have to tell you, this was incredible to have a president who's like, I don't care, I don't care, I don't care what you say, you're Columbia. We're the United States of America.
Starting point is 00:09:32 You're taking your illegals back. So here's what happened. We start to deport and we let Columbia know that two aircraft are coming their way with their citizens who were in jail and were flying them back. So these are the prisoners that they let out and shipped them to the United States. So we're shipping them back. Halfway there, the president of Columbia says, no, close the airspace to those planes. They're not coming in. We're not taking those people back.
Starting point is 00:10:01 and so President Trump, who is on the golf course, here's that and it says, oh, okay, well, turn the planes around and bring them back, but just tell the president of Columbia, I'm going to put a, I think he said, a 25% tax on everything they sell to the United States. And so the Colombian president said, okay, okay, okay, I tell you what, when they get down to the ground, I'll send my, presidential aircraft to go pick them up. Okay. But then after that, a couple hours passed and he's like, yeah, you know what? They are being bullies. We got a lot of leverage here. And he said,
Starting point is 00:10:46 so we're going to pick them up, but we're not going to let you do anything with your military around Colombia. And Donald Trump said, perfect. Okay. We're cutting your foreign aid. We're stopping our embassy, we're stopping everything in Columbia. It was, I don't know, maybe 20 minutes went by and he was tweeting, just reached a deal with the United States. We're good. We are good. I believe his exact quote was, thank you, sir, may have another. Exactly. It's unbelievable. Exactly. Okay. So this matters for a lot of reasons. One, it's showing the United States is going to do what is best for the United States. If you sent people here, you're taking your people back because they're not our people
Starting point is 00:11:40 and we're not dealing with it. You sent them. We told you take them back. You won't? Well, then the United States is going to exercise its powers. It is good for Americans, good for national security. but this not only affects the U.S. in Colombia. This, he puts a couple of these things on his belt and nobody's going to screw with us.
Starting point is 00:12:09 You see he is playing five-dimensional chess with Putin right now. He is moving things around and pushing. I mean, he is in full-fledged negotiation with Putin to get the war stop, but he also wants a renewed nuclear treaty with Russia. He's freaked by our nukes. And he told me at one point, he said, Glenn, well, he said this also with Elon Musk on the Musk X broadcast. He said, I'm freaked by nuclear. I rebuilt this.
Starting point is 00:12:47 I know what it can do. We don't want ever to open any of this stuff up. And so what he's doing is he's trying to end the war. he's also pushing Putin and kind of kicking at him because he's actually going for a bigger deal. This guy is, I mean, he really has learned a lot in the last four years. Now, this is also going to help our jobs here in America. And, you know, I want to look at everything he does and say, is he following conservative values or are we going into
Starting point is 00:13:28 what was it that the New York Times said? Signs of. Oh, yeah, this is funny. This is the AI summary of the New York Times coverage over the past like 24 hours. And it says, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:13:39 let's see if I can pull it up. Here it is. Trump returned to power. Early signs of tyranny. Kansas City will play Philadelphia in Super Bowl. All right. That's what we've been covering lately. Signs of tyranny.
Starting point is 00:13:50 of tyranny. I just throw it out there in news coverage. So I want to know, are these signs of tyranny? Or is he following our principles as conservatives? First, a nation without laws or borders, is it a nation? The answer is no. If we don't equally apply our laws to everyone, can there be equality? Can there be equal justice under the law? The answer is no.
Starting point is 00:14:24 He is also protecting American workers by taking the unfair competition out. I mean, I don't know if you've seen some of these places where nobody is showing up for work now. There was this huge construction site like eight workers showed up. Everybody else wasn't there. I mean, they couldn't do anything. They couldn't build anything because they had eight Americans. The rest of them were illegals. well, now America, go take those jobs back, demand the right salary from those people.
Starting point is 00:14:55 The next thing he did was America First Foreign Aid. He just released a memo that instructs the U.S. Agency for International Development. This is absolutely a CIA front, USAID, to prioritize America First in foreign aid reviews. Now, this is a very big deal because USAID has been a CIA and honestly, Marxist kind of operation, they've taken your tax dollars and they've done all kinds of horrible things with them. And they've given them to our enemies. And they still have been giving it to our enemies. And they're bribes.
Starting point is 00:15:44 That's all this is. you do not garner love and respect from people you are bribing. And that's what our State Department and USAID think they're doing is, well, we got to give them this money or they won't like us. Well, I don't want them to like us because we give them money. That's the worst kind of relationship. L.A. is still on fire. Section of size of San Francisco burned to the ground, 25 people dead, 400,000 people without power, 180,000 forced to. evacuate, very little time to get anything. Last thing you want to do is have to worry about going to
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Starting point is 00:17:14 William Hurtling wrote to me at the same time I picked up his book because I was like, I think this is happening exactly the way he lined out in his book in like 2009. And he reaches out to me at the same time. William, it's good to talk to you, sir. How are you? Great, Glenn. It's great to be back. So I don't even know where to start.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Let's start with this. You wrote a series of books, which I think are just absolutely profound and looking really accurate. it now called the Avagadro Corp. That's the first one. And it's about kind of a company, I don't know, like Microsoft or Google, and it starts assisting people with their email. And it kind of goes out of control in a very logical way and a way that I think we just saw in testing. I'm trying to remember who it was, was it, was it, uh, open AI that was doing the testing? And they found that if they say, just stay alive, you know, do what you have to do to stay alive. It hides itself on other computers. It, it, it evades and lies. That just happened. It lies. Yeah. It lies.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Well, yeah, it lies. It cheats. It steals, um, everything that you could imagine. It will, um, copy its code to another computer server. It'll pretend to be a different version of itself. It will, in competition with another AI, it will cheat and modify files. So, yeah, in every way, this is really happening right now today. So do you believe we have to tell it at any cost?
Starting point is 00:19:01 I mean, I would imagine that as it gets smarter, it is going to see that humans may want to destroy it or corral it, and it's not going to like that. Yeah, it absolutely may not, right? And this has to do with how intelligent it is, right? At this point in time, the AI is not smart enough to see us necessarily as an adversary, but as it gets more intelligent, it might, right? And it could see us as an enemy.
Starting point is 00:19:39 But it doesn't have to have, it doesn't have to have bad intelligence. intent to do this, right? No, absolutely not. I mean, and we see that today, right? If you were to hire an AI to build you a house, what we have already seen is like the AI just doesn't have what we think of as common sense. It doesn't have human ethics. If you were to hire an AI to build you a house and say, make me a beautiful house,
Starting point is 00:20:05 it might like bulldoze your neighbor's house because that'll make it more beautiful. It might decide to steal the materials. build the house because that'll make it more beautiful. It might decide to not put in a staircase because why do we need staircases? They just take up space, right? Like it just doesn't make common sense because an AI doesn't necessarily have common sense. So how long before that happens, before it stops doing those things? So as it gets more intelligent, the likelihood that it does those kinds of things is smaller. If it's more intelligent, it's more likely to think about what the effects are.
Starting point is 00:20:47 But with more intelligence comes more power. Why do we even have Stargate, right? Stargate, this $500 billion investment effort? Why? Because people are trying to build an artificial superintelligence. They want to build something not just to do routine tasks, but something they wanted to be able to do more than any human can do today. And that basically is an all-powerful weapon.
Starting point is 00:21:13 So let's talk about that. They say that Stargates, they've got $500 billion. $900 billion is the entire military budget. So you're looking at half the size of the entire U.S. military for a year. What exactly is this? I mean, it's got to be tied directly to the military, right? Yeah. think so. I mean, I think that
Starting point is 00:21:45 Open AI basically said, this is my guess, like nobody said this publicly, but I think basically this is a pitch to say, hey, if we don't build the first artificial superintelligence first, China will.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Right? And that's just we cannot have that from a matter of national security, from the security of the world, right? Like, we can't have China be the one to get the first artificial superintelligence. And so that means we have to. Okay, so we thought China was behind us.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Now, Deep Seek came out this weekend. The NASDAQ is just tanking today because it looks like there, the Chinese AI model outperforms open AI, which is very disturbing. Yeah, it's very disturbing, and it speaks to just how quickly things can change in this space. It doesn't matter that it took like hundreds of billions of dollars to get to this point. Now that we're at this point, this level of AI is just available basically to everyone, right? Anyone can replicate it pretty much more quickly than it took to develop it in the first place. So can you, because this strikes me as a modern day, but with graver consequences, a Manhattan project.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Explain to the average person why we care, why we have to have this. What could China do if we are not in the game at least? Well, to give you some idea, when we're talking about an artificial superintelligence, and I wrote about this in my second book, AI Apocalypse, which you wrote, it's what the military uses for some of their AI scenario planning. And the thing that's so unique about it is the speed with which it can operate. Yes. Right?
Starting point is 00:23:41 If you remember that book, like all the key things in that book take place in a matter. of minutes. Yeah, I, you know, the, the most amazing chapter is when they're going in to inform the president and get the president to say, go. The military advisors are walking in. The beginning of the chapter says, Mr. President, we dot, dot, dot, and then it goes through a whole chapter of this amazing war. And then the last line of the chapter is, we think there's going to be an attack on Chicago.
Starting point is 00:24:12 And it shows all of that happened. in the time that it took to say that sentence, which is phenomenal. And the way I like to think about it, right? Like, if that's what's going to happen, right, that's how powerful it is. It is when we talk about an artificial superintelligence, we're saying,
Starting point is 00:24:33 hey, you've got something and it's got like all the knowledge of the sum knowledge of humanity, everything that there is to know how to do, it instantly knows how to do, right? So if it can be done, it will be able to do it. That's an enormous amount of power. And I think about this from like a security perspective, right? If you were concerned about self-defense, would you buy a gun at the moment that someone was breaking into your house? Or would you go out and buy that gun and learn how to use it and practice with it so that you were ready when you did have to use it?
Starting point is 00:25:06 Right. And that's, if you look at the speed that AI is operating at, we cannot afford to wait until it's here, right, to address these risks. But you're a guy who has written several books on warning against AI, AGI, A-I-A-S-I, that it is the possible undoing of the human race. How could you possibly be saying we've got to pick it up? Well, because unfortunately it is, I think it's inevitable, right? There's no way we can stop the world from developing it. If America doesn't develop it, China will, right? and then we're at a disadvantage.
Starting point is 00:25:47 So the place where we need to make the investment is we need to make the investment in a system of governance that will work for AI, right? Like in the people world, we have locks on our doors. We have police departments, right? We have all these different layers because we know that even though we have, in theory, right, human ethics, not everybody behaves in an ethical way. We have disagreements of what those ethics are, right? And so we need all these different layers in society to help protect us and keep us safe.
Starting point is 00:26:22 And we need the same thing for AI. We need multiple layers. And those other layers, those layers that are going to protect us from the AI, it can't be us because we don't operate quickly enough to be able to see an AI risk and do something about it. So unfortunately, we need to have other AI that are our allies. It's interesting because I just saw this in real time. I was using Deep Seek this morning to ask it about China and Taiwan. And it gave me all of the CCP talking points.
Starting point is 00:26:55 And it said, I'm just trying to be fair and balance pulling from. And I'm like, but there's, you're just making the point of one China. Make the point that Taiwan is not part of China. Give me the other side. And it started typing out all of the things about Taiwan. And I'm reading it as, you know, how it scrolls by so fast. And I'm reading, I'm like, wow, it's actually. And then it just deletes it.
Starting point is 00:27:19 And it says, sorry, this is beyond my scope. So even that AI needed another AI that's not fast as, is not as fast as the first AI to be able to catch it and shut it down before it went out. I mean, it shows that there's a regulator on this thing that is making sure the propaganda is given. I mean, just this is so dangerous. Just the propaganda and the mind control that it is now going to be pushing. Yeah, absolutely. And I think you have seen, like, if you're using AI to any degree, you quickly become accustomed to it. It is a very useful tool.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Yes. And then you start to rely on it for everything. and then, you know, you're instead of doing a Google search, you're researching, you're using the AI to researching drug interactions the other day. And unfortunately, AIs make things up. They're not reliable, right? They make up, they hallucinate information and they tell you things, and they can tell you the wrong things, right?
Starting point is 00:28:32 And that's without any, you know, bad intent. That's just the design of them is imperfect, right? Right. But if there's actual bad intent, how are you going to know when you're being manipulated by the AI? How do you know whether the information you're reading is actual, real factual information or just something that the AI was told to tell you? I want to start kind of at the beginning with you on your first book where you talk about ELOPE, which is an AI tool that helps people write more effective emails. Okay, then it morphs. This is the best of the Glenn Beck podcast. It's a compilation of clips from various episodes.
Starting point is 00:29:17 If you want to dig deeper into this interview, check out the full podcast episode. I want to tell you about our new Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, real quick here. You know, he had a travel ban on China. He could not go to China. He said something, I don't know, in 2022 that the Chinese didn't like, and they were like, Well, you're not coming to visit us. Well, now he's Secretary of State. So he called his co or his counterperson over in China, the foreign minister of China.
Starting point is 00:29:49 And they were talking. And in roughly translated, the Chinese said to Rubio, we know you'll behave. Well, if you actually know Chinese, apparently that takes on completely different connotation. it means it's not something you would say unless the person you're talking to is an underling. And it's basically, I know you're going to do what I say. And Rubio said, no, I'm going to do what's right for my country. In fact, I'm scheduling a visit to China right now. He's got a travel ban.
Starting point is 00:30:26 And he's going. This administration is putting the world on notice. And I think it's going to be wildly effective. if they can continue to walk the way they're walking and just set the table back to common sense. And what's right for both of us, I don't want anything bad to happen to China, but you're not going to treat us as an underling.
Starting point is 00:30:54 And, you know, if we don't get that prowess back that we are at least an equal partner at the table, we're going to get screwed every time as we have been. Now, one of the things that I am really glad to see that is being taken care of, the CIA apparently released a memo that came out a couple of years ago saying that the Wuhan Lab was probably the most likely leak of COVID. Well, that's not what they said under the Biden administration. Why all of a sudden are we getting this now that Biden's gone? Why is the CIA now saying, yeah, it's probably Wuhan Labs? And somebody is actually doing something about this.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Andrew Bailey, he is the Missouri Attorney General. Missouri thinks they might have found a way to hold China accountable for COVID. Andrew, welcome. Hey, thank you for having me on. You bet. So what is your idea here? We filed a lawsuit against China and the Chinese communist government asking for $25 billion with a B dollars in restitution and remediation for the damage they caused to Missourians by unleashing the COVID pandemic on the United States of America
Starting point is 00:32:07 and then hoarding and withholding the PPE needed for the state to respond to the crisis. It's called the Federal Sovereign Immunities Act. That's the basis for our lawsuit. We're in trial today in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri, and I anticipate we're going to win. This is, I mean, this is phenomenal. What makes you think that you can win this? Well, it helps when the other side doesn't show.
Starting point is 00:32:32 up. I mean, that's how little the Chinese government thinks about these United States of America that they won't even participate in a judicial process. And look, this isn't some crackpot theory that I concocted on my own. The people's elected representatives in Congress enacted a statute that specifically allows states to sue foreign governments. And that's the statute we've utilized. And China has not participated. They've been granted due process of law under the judicial process. and served with notice, had the opportunity to be heard in court, had declined to do so, have not shown up. And so I anticipate we're going to get a judgment,
Starting point is 00:33:11 and we will begin executing that judgment at the appropriate time. So you know that China's not going to, they'll do everything they can, not to pay it. You know, even if they're deemed guilty, they'll say, well, we didn't show up and yada, yada. It's kind of like us with a hague. So what actually will happen with this? Well, if we have a valid judgment issued by a United States district court, we can execute that judgment by seizing assets that the Chinese government owns not only in the state of Missouri, but using any willing partner in any state in the United States of America. And so we're identifying assets and we'll continue to do so. And, you know, farmland is a lot of concern to Missouri because agriculture is such a big part of our economy here in the Midwest and in the state of Missouri. And so does China own farmland? in Missouri. You know, what other assets do they have in this state or in other states that we can seize to execute on that $25 billion judgment? Holy cow. Okay, this is fantastic. I'm just thinking
Starting point is 00:34:14 of the ramifications of seizing assets of China. Have you had any conversations with anyone in the Trump administration on how this might play out? Well, certainly we stay in constant contact with the Trump administration. I know President Trump's incoming Department of Justice is monitoring this case and familiar with it. And we will remain in contact with them. Certainly, it's the prerogative of the United States, the president of the United States to execute foreign policy on behalf of this country. This is different. This is, again, the people's elected representatives in Congress created a judicial process for states to seek redress against foreign governments that harm those states. But you're absolutely right. This has to be part and parcel. And in its synthesis,
Starting point is 00:34:58 with and coordination with the executive branch of the federal government. We will remain in contact with the president's team. All right. So what is your case? How are you making this case that they intentionally released it here in America? Well, it's corroborated not only with the evidence that we found and that we've adduced in court, but it's corroborated by the recent CIA memo that President Trump released just within the last few days. I mean, look, this is something that we've been talking about for a while. We knew that this wasn't just some accidental transmission from an animal at a wet market to a human, that this was part of a designed, you know, virology study at the Wuhan lab. It was, it was too coincidental, right, to be an accident.
Starting point is 00:35:41 And then China lied about it. And then China hoarded the PPE. I mean, isn't that how communist governments work? They create a problem and then withhold the means of solving that problem so that you're dependent upon the government. And that's the basis of our case. So what do you say to those who say, you know, that's great, but you're only holding half of the Frankenstein doctor responsible? You have Fauci, you have Eco Health, you have all of these other people that were knowingly sending money and everything else over to Wuhan. How are those people held to account? Or are they? Well, no, I think you're absolutely right. I think this is just one piece of an ongoing strategy to find justice for victims of COVID. And it's the American people who were lied to, who were deceived, who were sold a bill of goods, not only as to the lab leak, but also as to the potential remedies, you know, the health risks associated with the pandemic, the lockdowns, the masking, the deprivation of our liberties. I mean, America suffered a traumatic injury as a result of the pandemic. And we're, and we're,
Starting point is 00:36:54 We're still looking for justice. This is just one avenue to obtain that justice, but certainly this isn't the end of the work that my office will do, and that the American people, and certainly the people in Missouri will demand. So they are, they're saying that maybe the Biden pardons of his own family may not stand up in court. I don't understand the argument. I haven't really looked at it. I don't know if it's valid. But can the same at all be true for Fauci?
Starting point is 00:37:19 Can we hold these people responsible, even if they were pardoned before any fact came out? that show them doing things wrong or any charges. Yeah, Glenn, you're absolutely right. Number one, we're still assessing the legal validity of President Biden's corrupt pardons. But at the end of the day, regardless of what the federal government does, the federal government can't pardon individuals for offenses under the state law. So they can still be charged at the state level. And certainly, you know, all options are on the table here in the state of Missouri.
Starting point is 00:37:48 That's fantastic. When do you expect this to be over? I mean, you only have one side to prevent or to present. So when do you suppose this is over? Well, the trial should wrap up today. And then I anticipate the district court judge will issue a judgment in the coming days. It shouldn't take long again. A lot of these issues have been litigated in the earlier proceedings in court when the court dismissed our case and we had to appeal.
Starting point is 00:38:12 So so much of the writing is already on the wall that really at this point is just establishing damages. And so it shouldn't take long and we'll be off the race. Wow. And then the next step is? Again, the next step, once we obtain that judgment is identifying assets and working through the legal process to seize those assets to make good on that judgment that we will have obtained against the People's Republic of China. Any speculation on how China will react to that? Well, I'm sure it'll be a negative response. But look, my, here's the problem.
Starting point is 00:38:41 They had their opportunity. They had their day in court and didn't show up, didn't participate, didn't communicate, didn't put on any evidence, didn't enter an appearance. I mean, again, they have to know that they're subject to the. laws of the United States of America, and that, again, there's this federal statute on the book that gives states a right of action against foreign government. So it should come as no surprise to them, but they've done nothing to defend themselves. And so, you know, at the end of the day, it's a tacit admission of guilt when they refuse to even acknowledge or respond to the allegations in the petition and the lawsuit. Andrew, thank you. I appreciate your bravery
Starting point is 00:39:17 and your stick-to-itiveness, if you will. Andrew Bailey. he is the AG of the great state of Missouri. You know, one thing, Stu, that I love, but also shows me I probably should never be president, the high stakes game on almost every front that Donald Trump is playing right now. It's a lot to deal with at the same time. At the same time, he is going after all of our. enemies at once. He's not just taking him. I'm going to do this one first, then this one. He's taking all of the enemies on at once. And if our enemies decide, you know what, let's take them.
Starting point is 00:40:05 And they get together, that's really dangerous. I mean, I, it's a lot of balls in the air at the same time. Yeah. Really hard to manage. And something could shake up and they could work together. And something could spiral out of control. There's a, it's, This is not an easy job he's attempting. No. This is not a task. No, and I don't think this has ever been attempted before, at least in America. You comfortable with this?
Starting point is 00:40:31 Yeah, I am. I am. I feel like we should note that this, it has to be done to set us right, has to be done quickly. But we really need to pray for our country because this is a very, very, very, very fragile situation. And I think he is, he's not doing it the way he would have done it in 2017. We're just guns ablazing and he's just shooting bullets in the air to see what shows up. He is, is really taking it intelligently, calmly, orderly.
Starting point is 00:41:14 But it is, it's a big game we're playing. The Columbia thing is the best case scenario for him, though, because it's a, honestly, whatever happens with Colombia is not that big of a deal to us. But the fact that he can go and send that message without a massive risk, like you might see with China or Russia or whatever, he's able to send that message to the whole world. Don't screw with us. We'll do this to you without the high level of risk. But if Mexico, Brazil, Colombia, Panama, all of them get together and say, you know what, we're with China and Russia. and we're going to take the currency and dump dollars.
Starting point is 00:41:53 I mean, that is lights out for America. I mean, we just, we just, we stop freaking me out. Please pray. No, this is good. I refuse to accept bad. I don't want it. Look, I want him to continue, but pray. Look, the Eagles won yesterday.
Starting point is 00:42:09 In two weeks, I might be very miserable. But right now I'm happy. You're going to be. Am I? You might be really happy up until like the last minute and a half. That does feel like the reality. It does feel that way, I will say. All right.
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