The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Allie Beth Stuckey & Justin Haskins | 2/3/26

Episode Date: February 3, 2026

Glenn admonishes the state of Utah for recently passing a law increasing the number of judges on the Utah Supreme Court from five to seven. BlazeTV host of ‘Relatable’ and author of ‘Toxic Empat...hy,’ Allie Beth Stuckey, joins to discuss the Atlantic hit piece written by Hillary Clinton, which attacked Allie’s position on toxic empathy. Author of ‘The Next Big Crash,’ Justin Haskins, joins to discuss how close we are to another market crash. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:10 to the world entire. Trouvee to little enterprises like on earth on Amazon.ca. What is Utah doing? We have warned on the right about expanding the court for a long time now.
Starting point is 00:00:24 That is a signal of a dying republic. And the Utah GOP expands the state Supreme Court? What is wrong with you, Utah? We talk about that. Also, Ali Best Ducky. She's just been lambasted in an editorial written by Hillary Rodham
Starting point is 00:00:41 Clinton about how evil Ali Beth is. She's a good friend of the program and she's going to talk about that and why Hillary Clinton has it all wrong. And Justin Haskins, the next big crash. You don't want to miss any of today's podcast. Here it is. Sometimes the
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Starting point is 00:02:59 Now let's get to work. You're listening to. I am great. Allie Best Stucky, who is the host of Relatable on Blaze TV, an author of A Great Book, Toxic Empathy. So I found out this weekend that I was in the Epstein Files. And I first went, what? And then I realized it was him and some other dirtbag writing about basically how much they hate me and my listeners.
Starting point is 00:03:41 And I was like, oh, I got to make a T-shirt. I was in the Epstein files because they hated me. I love that. When you found out. Yeah, that is a huge compliment. Yeah, it is. You've got an even bigger one. You've got Hillary Clinton writing an op-ed about how toxic your toxic empathy book is.
Starting point is 00:04:04 I mean, that's got to feel good. Yeah. You know, I was talking to my dad and husband just having a nice afternoon chat. And I looked out on my phone and it started buzzing. and I got a message that said, Hillary Rodham Clinton just wrote a hit piece on you in all caps. And I couldn't believe it until I read it myself. And what's interesting about this is that, you know, my book is not new. It came out in October of 2024, so about 15 months later.
Starting point is 00:04:32 We've got former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton taking out 6,000 words in the Atlantic to talk about how terrible my book is. You know, it is a badge of honor. It also helped book sales a little bit, but honestly, I'm just trying to wonder what, try to figure out what her strategy is. So explain toxic empathy, what it is. Yes. Yes, this is something that she didn't distinguish in her op-ed to no surprise. You know, I think the left actually understands the concept.
Starting point is 00:05:05 They talk about things like toxic masculinity, and what they'll say is that not all masculinity is toxic, but this form of masculinity is toxic. And yet, when I talk about toxic empathy, they pretend that I'm saying that all compassion is toxic and bad, and that's not what I'm saying at all. I say that empathy becomes toxic when it leads you to do three things to affirm sin, to validate lies, or to support destructive policies. So your empathy becomes toxic when you feel so deeply for one particular person, a purported victim, that you are blinded to both reality and morality. You are so focused on this person that you forget that there are other people on the other side of the moral equation. So you feel so deeply for the man who says that he is born in the wrong body and is meant to be a woman that you forget about biological reality and ignore the rights and the privacy and the fairness of the girls on the other side of the equation. So I think that toxic empathy is really the explanation for the support of all kinds of destructive policies when it comes to immigration, crime, gender, abortion. And so it doesn't surprise me at all that progressives don't like that.
Starting point is 00:06:12 We're giving that a name and calling it out. So, Ellie, explain it. Go specific on the use of toxic empathy or the demonstration of toxic empathy, for instance, in Minnesota. Yeah. Yes, such a good question. So we see this de contextualized image of this young boy. He's standing with law enforcement officers and immediately, and right? It evokes a sense of sadness and outrage and pity for this boy who is put in this situation.
Starting point is 00:06:45 And then a narrative is attached to it. And instead of asking, hey, is this true or what's the alternative explanation? Our hearts want to believe that it's true because it seems right that this boy was kidnapped by these ICE agents. He was separated from his family and this is the cruelty of the Trump administration. There's some confirmation bias there, but really we just feel so deeply for this boy that we believe the victim narrative that has been attached to him. And then because of that, you say riots are justified, the protests are justified, and abolishing ICE or defunding the police are all justified in the name of helping little boys like Liam. The problem is your empathy for that boy has
Starting point is 00:07:28 actually blinded you to what is true. It has paralyzed your critical thinking, so you're not asking the question that all of us need to ask. How do I know that's true? What's the greater context. Can I believe this person? What are the sources being cited? And what is the other side of the story that we are not being told? That is the danger of allowing your empathy to overtake or eclipse your critical thinking skills. We have to have both compassion and this truth and love approach necessary in our critical thinking process as we decide on policy. You know, when you look at the Democrats. I've got something I'm going to talk
Starting point is 00:08:13 about here in a little while about how the things that they're shouting at people, the things they're saying about, you know, I hope you die. I hope your wife dies. I hope your children are killed. All of these things and they say
Starting point is 00:08:29 they claim they're doing it out of love. They claim they're on the side of love. And those two things don't connect at all. I mean, that that was the genius of Martin Luther King and Gandhi and Jesus. He connected them. Your words and your actions must demonstrate love and never cross into hatred or retaliation, revenge, any of that stuff. And they held the line. These guys don't have a line.
Starting point is 00:09:01 And so, and I think it's because of the loss of eternal truth. They've lost or maybe never had some them, the understanding of what Jesus was actually teaching or what Martin Luther King was actually teaching. And so they've become the exact opposite of those, and yet they don't see it. Yeah, gosh, so many good points there. There was a book that came out before mine in 2016 that wrote about the dangers of empathy from a secular psychological perspective by a Yale psychologist named Paul Bloom. And he talks about this concept of being full of empathy but mean as hell. And what he measured was that in students that measured higher on empathy, that they are actually crueler to the outgroup. So what happens is you feel so deeply for one purported victim
Starting point is 00:09:50 that anyone who you see as in opposition to that victim, so in opposition to the illegal immigrant, in opposition to the woman seeking abortion, you can justify cruelty and hatred against them because in your mind, you are fighting against the oppressor. And so really what happens there is when you exchange empathy for virtue, Christian virtue, what you're talking about, it actually doesn't make you more loving on the whole. It actually can make you cruel towards the people that you now perceive as your enemy. And that is why exchanging the truth and love, exchanging true virtue for empathy is actually a very harmful exchange. So my concern, the thing I think of every day is how do we point this out?
Starting point is 00:10:40 How do we save people? Because I think this, this is why they emphasized on your feelings. They emphasized your feelings, your feelings, your feelings. And Ben Shapiro for years, facts don't care about your feelings. But that's why they emphasize feelings,
Starting point is 00:10:57 because if you concentrate on feelings, then reason shuts down. And then you get enraged, and it shuts down even further. So you have all these people that I think they're actually thinking they're doing the right thing, but they've shut down the thinking process so deeply that they're not, I mean, they're just trapped.
Starting point is 00:11:19 So how do you reverse this? Yes, because feelings also don't care about your facts, and that's exactly why they emphasize the emotion. And so, yes, facts and logic, all of those things are so important and do have the power, they can have the power to be persuasive and pull people out of their delusion. However, I also think that we need to tell the story on the other side of every issue. Something I do in my book, I tell the story that the media is telling, for example, about a woman who wants an abortion but has been forced by these evil pro-life laws in Texas to keep her child. And of course, the left sees that is something that is draconian.
Starting point is 00:11:56 But I tell the story from the baby's perspective. This is what would have happened to this baby had there not been this pro-life law in Texas. She would have been poisoned. She would have been dismembered. She would have been tossed aside like toxic waste. It was actually because of this pro-life law that she was carried, that she was delivered, loved, and named, and buried like the dignified image bearer of God that she was. Sometimes people need to see that there is another side of the story that demands your heart to. There are Kate Steinleys, there are Lake and Rilies, there are Molly Tibbitts who are also your neighbors that need your compassion and your eyes and your love.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And when you allow people to zoom out and show them, there are other people on the other side of this political issue that you're talking about sometimes that expands their understanding to the point that they can be persuaded by facts. I'm just making a list here of, as I'm listening to, I'm making a list of the things that led to all this that you have to reverse. I mean, this is why, you know, feelings were so important. This is why ends justify the means that was so important to them. because you can do anything if just what happens in the end is all that matters. You can justify anything. Why they kept shouting, shut up, shut up, shut up, don't ask questions, just go along with it. I mean, all of these things built this army of almost automatones that are just not thinking for themselves.
Starting point is 00:13:29 When you think about those agitators that infiltrated that church in St. Paul, one of the refrains that they were repeating was hands up, don't shoot. So still, however many years later, is it 12 years later maybe, they are still repeating that refrain from Michael Brown's shooting that has been debunked by the Obama DOJ, by the Washington Post. To your point about the ins justify the means, like a lie is justified, agitation, violence, cruelty is all justified if you are defeating Nazi. which of course is why the local politicians rhetoric there is so dangerous because these people feel absolutely justified and traumatizing elderly women and children because they're doing so in the name of defeating fascism. Real quick, how do you solve it? Real quick. What a stupid thing to say. We all are doing our part to show people there's another side of this story. I'm on the battleground of Instagram trying to pull people out of this propaganda that women are so easily sucked into and remind them God is giving you a brain.
Starting point is 00:14:44 There's a lot of people that make a lot of money based on you being stupid and you don't have to fall into that trap. You are a smart person who's able to think and see the other side of this story. So join me in the journey of seeking truth. Allie Best Stucky. The name of the book is Toxic Empathy. The author of the op-ed against that theory and against Alley is Hillary Clinton, so that is a good endorsement. And she's also the host of Relatable on Blaze TV. Allie, always good to talk to you.
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Starting point is 00:16:20 Now back to the podcast. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. Justin Haskins is, uh, Heartland Institute, Vice President, our Republic's senior fellow. I'm not even a junior fellow. I don't even know how you become a fellow. I could set that up for you if you want.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Junior fellow sounds about right. No. You jerk. You have to do stuff? No. Maybe that's why I'm not a senior or a junior because I don't want to do anything. Anyway, author of the next big crash, Justin, I admire you so much, as you know, your research, you have a great research team and your research is impeccable.
Starting point is 00:17:01 And the things that you found that we're going to go through in your book may take us a couple of days this week if you're around. But I think it's so important because I'm not sure when a crash is coming. But somebody asked me just the other day and see if you agree with my answer. They said, Glenn, what's next? And I said, well, I can't tell you exactly what's next. because an event is going to happen. I don't know what that event is,
Starting point is 00:17:30 but the next big event could be a crash that changes absolutely everything. Would you agree with that? Yeah, 100%. In the first chapter of the book, most of the book is not about what will cause the next big crash or trying to predict
Starting point is 00:17:44 when the next crash is going to happen. Most of the book is about the effects of it. That's the really scary thing. But in the first chapter, I talk about these trigger events, all these potential things that are lining up. And there are so many of them that could cause a crash. And I think everyone who's watching this show, we want the economy to be successful.
Starting point is 00:18:04 We want the Trump administration to be successful. He's doing a lot of the right things. But still, you could have another pandemic. You could have an AI. You have war. You could have some sort of AI event where you could have the Wall Street could shut down. I mean, Chinese are hacking into infrastructure. They're testing things out, trying to feel.
Starting point is 00:18:26 figure out a way that there's all kinds of crazy things that could happen. The derivatives complex, which we talk about a lot in the book, is super dangerous, super dangerous. The gambling that's going on on Wall Street really bad. Things are overheated. Those CDOs are what caused those CDOs is what caused the problems in 2008. We all knew it. It was all verified.
Starting point is 00:18:49 We're going to clean that up. They doubled down, tripled down on those things. They made it much worse than it was in 2008. Correct? Yeah, 100%. I looked this up the other day. Derivatives, for those who don't know, a derivative is a, it's an investment that's the derived. Its value is derived. That's why it's called the derivative from some other kind of asset. But it's basically just you can think of it as guessing or gambling. At its worst, it's sort of like gambling. The derivatives complex is so massive right now. The total value of all the derivatives is one quadrillion dollars. A quadrillion dollars. That's the size of the derivatives market. Far more value is in the derivatives market than there is actual value underlying it. So if you have a gigantic crash, everything comes crashing down, they don't have the assets to support one quadrillion dollars worth of stuff.
Starting point is 00:19:46 It's incredibly dangerous. A quadrillion dollar, is that a trillion trillions? I don't even know. I don't think we can conceptualize it. Quadrillion is like when I was a kid, trillion we thought was like a made up number. It wasn't a number. It was like quadrillion. I don't even know what that is exactly.
Starting point is 00:20:09 It's unbelievable. That's insanity. Insanity. So in the book, and this is the big part, the only reason why any of these things, the derivatives complex, any of this other stuff that we're going to talk about exists, is because over a long period of time, your property rights were taken away from you and you had no idea that it occurred. And Wall Street has used this new system that we're going to talk about today to build the derivatives complex, to build all sorts of risky systems within Wall Street that's
Starting point is 00:20:41 allowing them to get rich because you no longer have your property rights when it comes to your investments. Okay. So let's take this one step at a time. First, when you put money in a bank, unless you're in a private bank, that money is being loaned out to others. And after 08, the banks got together with Barney Frank and then the Republicans as well and made it so you are the lender of last resort. And what that means is if if I'm the lender of last resort at, you know, Bob's hamburger shop, and I've, I've, you know, ponied up a million dollars to help him build this, but others have ponied up as well.
Starting point is 00:21:30 And I'm the lender of last resort. It means he's got to, if he goes bankrupt, he has to pay everybody else off. He can use the money from, you know, liquidation and everything else. And I'm the last one at the trough. So I get whatever is left if there is anything left over. When you put your money in a bank in 2008, part of the thing that they did in 2008 to correct the system was they made the American depositor the lender of last resort. So when you're putting your money into a bank to keep it safe, they're loaning it out. That means you're a lender to the bank.
Starting point is 00:22:10 You're not a customer of the bank. You're lending them your money. They put it into whatever they want to put it into, risk. if it goes away, you don't get your money back. You're the last in line to be paid. So the little guy gets screwed every single time. And I thought that was bad. But that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's unbelievable conspiracy that occurred over several decades to take away your property rights when it comes to your investments. So primarily what we're talking about here are Wall Street investments, securities
Starting point is 00:22:55 investments. So stocks, bonds, ETFs. When you think of investing on Wall Street, that's what we're talking about. Your 401K, all of it. Yes. In the 1960s and 70s, a powerful special interests working with potentially the CIA, maybe, we talk about that in the book at length, got together and decided we're going to transform the way people own these investments. At the time, they were having a paperwork crisis,
Starting point is 00:23:26 because everything was done on paper in the 1960s and 70s and prior to that, too. So if you bought stock, you would actually get a paper certificate with your name on it. It was your stock. And the problem with this is when you're buying and selling and it's happening increasingly more, now you've got to do lots of paperwork. And it was causing problems. for Wall Street. So what they decided was, you know, what if we just made investments, we took all the stock, all the bond, took everything, and we put it all in one institution. And we made that one institution, the owner, the direct registered owner of all of these investments. And then what we do is we give people contracts so that they have an interest in this,
Starting point is 00:24:06 but they don't actually own the asset itself. Well, that's exactly what they ended up doing. and in 1970s. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I just want to make sure I understand. So if I have a, not to single anybody out, but a Schwab account, and I have my money, my 401k and everything else, and I have it at Charles Schwab, and they tell me you own this many shares of this and this many shares of that, I've never received the certificate of ownership of that stock. They have it. You're saying they hold it, but they're holding it in a big, pile of stuff and you're you get a share of that you're you're not the actual owner of any of that stuff you're the owner of a contract that gives you certain benefits related to those shares you don't own the shares and charles schwab doesn't own the shares either only one institution owns the shares it's called the depository trust company and it's part of the federal reserve
Starting point is 00:25:05 depository trust company dc part of the federal reserve so evil yes so evil they own basically about $80 trillion worth of stock and other securities investments are owned by DTC. That's the direct registered owner of all of these investments. So when you go and you buy a stock, you think you're buying stock, you invest in your retirement account, you think that you own those things, you don't actually own them. You have a contractual interest to the underlying asset, but you don't really own it. Now, one of the big reasons, one of the big benefits to this system is, if you don't really own it, then they don't need your permission to do all kinds of different things with it because they can now, because it's not yours. So they can lend it out to
Starting point is 00:25:52 other people. They can build the whole derivatives complex, the gambling that goes on, margin accounts, all of these things where you're basically borrowing stock, you're borrowing, you're putting money to borrow more stock, you're gambling. All of that is because of this system. It wouldn't be possible without it. The whole thing is built on this model. that you don't really own it. So they built this model and they've made a fortune off of it, not only because trading volumes
Starting point is 00:26:18 have dramatically increased on Wall Street, but also because now they get to do options, tradings, and futures and all these other things that they weren't really able to do at scale prior to this. So they've made a fortune. But then they got even greedier.
Starting point is 00:26:32 And they said, you know, there's all sorts of risk involved in this system. So in the 1990s, they changed the laws again, at the state level. Most of these laws were changed, by the way, at the state level. 1990s, they changed the laws again that gave these two big to fail institutions the ability to essentially keep your investments if a financial institution uses those investments as collateral
Starting point is 00:26:59 and a loan. I know this is getting like a little bit complicated, but let's say, for example, you give your money to an investment management firm, the investment manager goes out and they're not supposed to do this, but let's just say they do, and we have examples of them doing it. They use your investments as collateral to go get a loan at another institution, at a bank or something, maybe because they're failing and they're desperate and they need to do it. And they're not supposed to be doing it. There's regulations against it, but they do it anyway.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Okay? So they do that. And then they can't pay the loan back because they're crashing. According to the laws that are on the books right now, the big bank gets to keep your investments. The big bank can take your investments as collateral and keep it for themselves, even if the institution wasn't supposed to lend it, put it up as collateral in the first place. So all of, then there's emergency powers laws that are on the books now. All of this is in the book, the next big crash. You can see all of the evidence for yourself, but this is a
Starting point is 00:28:01 extremely dangerous situation that they have built on Wall Street. And we've had people on the record who built this system saying this was done in preparation for, quote, an Armageddon, an Armageddon-like scenario to make sure that the two big-to-fail institutions would be protected and individuals could lose everything as a result of it. It's terrifying. And most people have never heard of any of this. It's so evil. It is just, I mean, I am convinced that the Fed and how it was built.
Starting point is 00:28:35 I'm not saying the people of the Fed, although I'm sure there's some very nefarious. people in there. I'm just saying the system that was built is an evil system because it is meant to protect the money and the system and not the people whose lives are the ones supporting all of it, the ones who are, I mean, when you put a system over people, which they have done, without, without including the people in any of this knowledge, I honestly, just I've, I've heard a lot of crazy things that I thought that can't be true. I've heard a lot of things that I thought were just out and out crazy, and I've heard a lot of things that I just think are evil.
Starting point is 00:29:15 This is right there at the top of these, of those things. And you know, you came to me with this, I don't know, months ago. And we looked into her like, oh my gosh, he's right. All of this is accurate. This is not the, I mean, Justin is very, very good. You can read about it in the next big crash. But wait, there's more. You're streaming the best of.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Glenn Beck. To hear more of this interview and others, download the full show podcasts wherever you get podcasts. Let me start with some amazing news first. The Artemis looks like it's going to be pushed back to March. I was supposed to launch here soon, but, you know, let's take a minute for any of us, any of us are old enough to remember what happened to the Challenger. The Challenger blew up because it was sitting on the pad and the temperatures in Florida went below freezing. Well, that's exactly what It's happened. These are solid booster rockets that are strapped to the side of Artemis, the same kind that we're on the Challenger. I know we found the O-ring problem, et cetera, et cetera, we're supposed to solve that, but I'm hoping that they're going to put that thing back into,
Starting point is 00:30:19 in, you know, take them a day to roll that back into the shed, if you will, and test it, and make sure we can't afford to lose the Artemis. But the other thing that happened yesterday is the largest company now in the history of the world, the most valued company in the entire world was created. SpaceX and XAI merged yesterday. That makes them the most profitable, most expensive company in the entire world. And I have to tell you, when I heard that last night, I thought, gosh, I feel like it's 1910 and somebody said, you should have invest in the Bell system. Yeah, maybe, maybe.
Starting point is 00:31:07 This might be AT&T. It might be the railroads, might be Pan Am, you know, when Pan Am was something. This is huge. And let me explain right now, SpaceX has announced yesterday that they are going to launch a million satellites into space, a million satellites into space for the cloud and for AI processing. AI processing up in space, you can keep it cool, and you don't have to have any of the water problems, you don't have any of the cooling problems, the energy problems, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:31:38 I mean, it's a perfect place to have processing done is up in space. He's going to launch a million satellites to give you some idea. Right now, humanity has roughly 14,000 active satellites operating and orbiting Earth. Okay. That's every nation. that's every military, that's every weather system, every GPS signal, every communications platform humanity has ever put into space is 14,000. So now SpaceX has filed plans of a million satellites over time going up into space.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Even if only a fraction of that number is ever launched, this is not an expansion of what exists today. This is a complete redesign of space around Earth. This is a replacement of the scale itself. So to understand this, stop thinking in terms of technology and start thinking in terms of history. When I first heard this, a million satellites and I know we have 14,000 in space, I thought to myself, wow, that's kind of like somebody saying, yeah, I know we're expanding and I know it's 1820, but everything west of the Missouri River is mine. Okay, I mean, the 1800s power in America was not decided by the speeches. It was decided by who controlled the rivers.
Starting point is 00:33:07 And then later, who controlled the railroads. When the railroads crossed the Missouri River, it wasn't just steel that was moving west. It was law, it was commerce, it was time, it was settlement. The cities lobbied for the railroads. Please, but the railroad tracks by. us, cities died when the railroads bypassed them. Okay. No one announced everything west of the river is ours. They didn't have to. They built it first and then everybody else had to adjust around that. And that is exactly what Elon Musk is doing right now, except the frontier is not land.
Starting point is 00:33:44 It's the sky. Low Earth orbit is not infinite. I think there's, I want to say 6,000 in low Earth orbit. There are only so many usable altitudes out there. And, you know, you start launching things up in a space. There's only so many collision tolerant corridors. So there's so much junk up around that you, it's, it has to be very carefully coordinated. At small numbers, satellites coexist. At massive numbers, they define everything. You place tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of objects into those corridors. You're no longer participating in space. You're designing and structuring it.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Think of it this way. This isn't somebody claiming land west of the Rockies. It's closer to one company building every road, every bridge, every highway, and say, everybody else can use them, but we built them first. Control doesn't require ownership. It requires. scale. And that is what Elon Musk is very good at. Scale. And this matters because for the first time in history, a private company is positioned to shape the planetary structure or infrastructure,
Starting point is 00:35:07 a layer of infrastructure, faster than governments, cheaper than any nation, with replacement cycles measured in months, not decades. I mean, empires used to control land. Remember, I mean, this is exactly what the this is what the Vanderbilt's did with the railroads. You know, they controlled the railroads. Navy's controlled the seas. Nations controlled airspace.
Starting point is 00:35:32 This is completely different. This is the normalization now of something entirely new. The sky itself becoming managed infrastructure. Okay. And history tells us something really, really important
Starting point is 00:35:44 when this kind of stuff happens. Really important. People who arrive first they don't just win, they set the rules that everybody else spends decades trying to renegotiate. So this isn't a warning, this is just an observation here. Every great power shift in history look small right up until the time it doesn't. And by the time most people look up, the frontier is already gone. The other thing you have to understand, this is going to change our skies forever.
Starting point is 00:36:20 You put a million, put half a million. Put 100,000 more satellites up into lower orbit space. It's going to change the look of the sky. When you go out at night, you're going to see a different sky. This is a game-changing announcement yesterday. Game-changing. I'm not sure I like it. I just want to point out it's massive.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Now, let me come closer to Earth, closer to what is happening in our world. Yesterday, I'm going to go into this in a second. Yesterday, there was a judge in Texas who made this crazy, crazy ruling on habeas corpus. And we're going to get into that because it ties into the judges' overreach, but also what's happening with ice. Okay. Before I get there, let me tell you something else that's crazy that's going on. And it's happening in Utah. And Utah, listen to me carefully.
Starting point is 00:37:20 You are in trouble. You are in trouble. I don't care what party you belong to. Every American should understand what Utah did is trouble for the Republic. And you're going to become California. So look out. Utah, what are you thinking?
Starting point is 00:37:45 The Republicans in Utah, you want to talk about being hypocrites. Here it is. When we talk about packing the court, what do we all say? Don't do that. That's the end of the republic. It's always the end of the republic. When somebody starts packing courts, the next people that get in, they're like,
Starting point is 00:38:05 oh, well, you change that number, so I can change that number too. We're going to have 12. We're going to have 20. We're going to have 30. We're going to have 55. You see Venezuela. You see Cuba. You see any country that has ever done this, they fall into totalitarianism because they realize
Starting point is 00:38:20 they can just change the referees. They'll just add more referees and they'll add the referees they like. Utah has had a real problem because you have all these judges that are legislating from the court. That's not the job of a judge. That's not what a judge does. They accepted, Utah accepted, I think it's the Missouri system or the Missouri reform. I don't know what it is. Something to do with Missouri.
Starting point is 00:38:48 And what it means is they're going to get together with all of the legal. experts and the legal experts are going to say to the governor, these are the ones you should pick from. Oh, okay. No. No. Can we stop being a country run by experts? We see exactly what the experts have done in every category. Stop it. So they decided because the court system is overwhelmed. No, not the Supreme Court. The federal courts are, the state courts are, but not the state. The Supreme Court? There's a massive backlog in the lower courts, you know, and people have been begging, hey, help us, help us, and they were ignored. So they decided to expand the Supreme Court. Why? That wasn't overrun. It wasn't overwhelmed. This is not about efficiency. This is all
Starting point is 00:39:42 about control. And I understand you have bad judges and they've been legislating, but you don't Do this, Utah. You should hear history echoing here, okay? Because this is what happens all the time when a uniparty takes hold. The Republicans, you know, the Republicans have had control of Utah forever, and so they're doing exactly what's happening in Texas. They get soft, they get mushy, they get embarrassed, that they actually believe in the Constitution.
Starting point is 00:40:13 and when power moves as a single organism protecting itself, correcting its losses, punishing resistance, this is what they do. They made all these mistakes, all these compromises, and then what happens? After the compromises are there, they see what the result is, and they're like, oh, I shouldn't have done that. Okay, well, let's do something even more dumb. Let's pack the Supreme Court of the state. Republicans, you don't get a pass here because Democrats would do it to. That argument dams the Republic. It doesn't save it. It dams it. A legislature that expands a court after losing cases is not defending a republic. It's announcing constitutional limits only apply, you know, unless they're inconvenient. What kind of hypocrites are running the GOP? And here's the
Starting point is 00:41:06 deeper problem that nobody wants to say out loud. For decades, our universities have been captured by ideologues who openly despise the Constitution. I have a, I have a podcast coming with, oh gosh, what's his name? Constitutional scholar. Yeah, Jonathan Turley. It's coming out this week. And he was talking, kept ringing the bell. You don't understand what's happening in the universities, Glenn. It's Marxism, and they're all against the Constitution. They're teaching Marxism, not his theory, but his morality. And they're training our lawyers and our judges and our journalists and the bureaucrats to see the problem as something to be managed, not framework to be defended because the framework is just not good anymore.
Starting point is 00:41:52 The media overwhelmingly drawn from the same institutions doesn't check this drift. It sanctifies it. And in a state that was raised on the Constitution, you know better than this. Have you just grown timid? apologizing before you even stand up, square your shoulders, and say, this is what the Constitution says.
Starting point is 00:42:21 These are our founding principles. Why are you shrinking from conflict? As if defending principles is somehow in polite. It is not impolite. It is required of you to stand. A Republican cannot survive this kind of shyness. I know you're polite. I know you don't want to, I know you want to get along with everybody.
Starting point is 00:42:44 You must stand or you will lose everything. You're going to become California. And then you think that, you think that state's going to last? Are you kidding me? One side is ruthless and the other side is reserved. And the ruthless always win. I know that's why we pack the court. No, you don't violate your own principles or you become everything that you despise.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Utah once pride It itself on being different, unusual, peculiar, grounded, constitutionally serious. You're not. This, your road you're on. It's not leading you to any of that. When courts become political tools, when legislatures punish judges for rulings
Starting point is 00:43:32 instead of fixing the law, when every law is answered with structural manipulation, you don't get Utah, you get California. Not all at once, not overnight, but inevitably you get it. And you're almost there. And once you cross this line, which you just crossed, there's no neutral ground left. Every future majority is going to feel justified doing exactly the same thing, only faster and only harsher.
Starting point is 00:44:02 You think they're going to stop at seven? You had five. You increased it to seven because it's overwhelmed. That was a lie. That's a lie. Numbers are numbers. Math is math. Sorry, GOP.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Math is universal. And some of us know the difference between an overwhelmed system and one that's not. Math is just a number. This is how separation of power has become a memory instead of a guardrail.
Starting point is 00:44:32 I'm going to show you what just happened in Texas. Okay, Utah and Texas. This isn't just a number. a bad bill. This is a warning flare to the rest of the country. Republicans that ignore warning flares, you don't get a second chance on this one. When you start screwing around with the balance of a state or national Supreme Court, your republic is destined for disaster. Okay? That's just the truth. I don't like saying it. I don't want to be the one saying it.
Starting point is 00:45:06 but if you're doing it, somebody's got to point it out and saying, what are you doing? Do you want that to happen at the federal level? You just set a precedence. It's not going to stop there. Oh, yeah, but we're always going to control. Oh, are you? Are you?
Starting point is 00:45:24 Have you seen the numbers moving into your state? Have you seen what's happened to Fort Worth just this weekend? That's not conservative anymore. Fort Worth, it's known as Cowtown. It's not Dallas. That was the conservative part. Nope, no more. No, anymore, because Republicans were just like,
Starting point is 00:45:50 we're Texas, we'll always be Texas. Have you seen the numbers of the people moving in from California? Florida, I warn you, have you seen the numbers moving in from New York? These people are not the ones that moved because they had a point. They now moved because it's. It's just too expensive. It's just too crazy up there with taxes. They don't know they were the ones who built all of that system.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Be careful. Be careful. Bad move, Utah. When you were little, you had braced some have braced in court of recreat, always in trying to negotiate and do fair these exchanges. The appellee-negotice-titre T-D you permit to renouwer with this instinct,
Starting point is 00:46:31 with without operation gratuit, no amount of minimum, and no free mensuel. You're made for negotiate. And the TD is there for you help.

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