The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Bill O'Reilly & Asra Nomani | 5/13/22

Episode Date: May 13, 2022

Pat Gray joins to discuss how companies like Netflix and BlackRock are reeling in their woke policies. Bill O'Reilly joins to discuss the ongoing supply chain crisis and how Biden is putting America l...ast. The Federalist senior contributor Asra Nomani joins to expose the Washington Post and the ACLU's involvement in helping Amber Heard attack her ex-husband Johnny Depp. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:25 You didn't No, I was not in the market for buying a rare historical documents and items this past week. All right. All right. But you are. Yeah. So I brought in some things that we have just been so blessed to be able to acquire, to preserve them and add them to our Mercury Museum collection. Some really fascinating, one-of-a-kind stuff that we share on today's podcast. If you're listening to the extended version, it's all of our three. And we also
Starting point is 00:00:59 have Bill O'Reilly on. We talk, believe it or not, a little bit about the Johnny Depp trial with Asronomani, because there is an actual important angle to that crap show, literally crap show. And the new dolls from Mattel. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I've made some suggestions of some new dolls that maybe they would be interested in making. Or maybe not.
Starting point is 00:01:27 I don't know. I don't work at Mattel. Thank God. But we have that for you. And the baby formula controversy with the Washington Post. You're listening to. Is the Glenn Beck program. Welcome to Friday.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Pat Gray from Pat Gray Unleashed is joining. When he walked into the studio, his eyes immediately ran to my beautiful, beautiful shirt today. Yeah, they did. Yeah. They did. And began judging you instantly. He was in, still in, literally in the door frame. Didn't stop, but I know Pat so well.
Starting point is 00:02:20 And I said, you're judging me for my shirt, aren't you? And you said, oh, is it that obvious? And I'm like, oh, yeah, it is. It is. It is. But my shirt distracted him from a couple of the other things that happened to be in the studio today. The only thing we're going to show you right now, it's going to be show and tell in the third hour today. but right now I guess you can tweet at us
Starting point is 00:02:45 what's in the box what's in the box is probably it is game changing it changed it changed everything in the world would you agree with that? Without that thing the world would be a very different place
Starting point is 00:03:04 correct very different and I would say in a much much more negative oh is it the dean came in a little scooter thing No. Is that what it is? No. You just have to unfold it when you take it out of the box. No.
Starting point is 00:03:17 No. Okay. Because that changed the civilization. Remember that? Do you remember when, yeah, that is, what, what is that thing called? The segue. Segway. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Yeah. When that came out, if you don't remember, because we were everybody. Oh, it was going to change civilization as we knew. Oh, yeah. Like Bill Gates was in Dean Kamen's office and he saw it and he came out said, that changes everything. It will change cities the way they're built. It'll change. everything.
Starting point is 00:03:43 The only thing it changed was the way mall cops get around the mall. That's about it. And not really even that, I don't think. Not even that. I mean, it changed that one movie called Mall Cop. There was a sequel.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Two movies were completely changed. Two movies and that's it. I will say it's good for tourists who normally would take a walking tour. Yeah, that's right. They can take a segue tour. Yeah. That's much better.
Starting point is 00:04:11 There is something behind me that we're going to show you in our number three that Pat can see. That is amazing. Amazing. Amazing. And it was, I rescued it. I like to think I rescued this. Everything that, you know, I started collecting American heroes. I mean, sorry, American items because I think we're really actually dealing with people who will
Starting point is 00:04:41 destroy history. They are, and I think we're going to start seeing stuff. You know, there's a, I can't tell you what the item is because we're still trying to get it. But there is an item that is one of a kind and really the only thing that testifies to this happened, the only thing remaining. And it went up for auction and it was pulled at the last minute because the owner found out that two of the bidders were trying to destroy it. They only wanted to own it to destroy it. And that kind of stuff is starting to happen. And it is terrifying.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Seems like an expensive parlor game. Yeah, well, this is the only piece. That was the thing that's sitting behind me now, that was one of my concerns. Truly one of my concerns is when you find out where it came from and why it went up for auction, I mean, would you be surprised if that was destroyed at some point? No, we have seen similar types of things happen.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Yes, we have. Yes, we have. So show and tell today. And Pat Gray, welcome to the program. How are you? I'm great. Perfect. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Perfect. Yeah. And you've been, you've been, well, you've been, well, you are the, I mean, not only the cookie king with kexie cookies, but you are also sitting on just a mountain of baby formula. Oh, yeah. You've been hoarding that stuff. Ordin it forever. Well, I immediately thought of you. Since I had babies and it's been 20 years since I've had a baby.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Well, you had a baby. Well, my wife had the baby actually, but I... But you could have a baby if I wanted it. If I wanted it, men can, of course, men can have a baby, yeah. And I immediately thought of you and your hoarding of baby formula when I heard the White House blame parents for hoarding baby formulas. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Yeah. I thought, gee, you know, huh, I never thought of it that way. Let's blame the parents of babies who were concerned about having baby formula. Let's blame them. And they've been trying to prepare and make sure they had enough baby formula. Yeah. By the way, this is why you don't talk. I don't, I don't keep food storage.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I did. I used to as well. But I lost it in a, you stopped it. Yeah, I lost a. I mean, almost all of mine. It fell into the same body of water that my guns fell in. Shut up. Me too.
Starting point is 00:07:14 I was planning on fishing for a very long time, like a year for my whole family. And then I loaded that on the boat. I knew that that was a great risk. People would want that. So I loaded all my guns on the boat. And then I was just fishing. And lo and behold, you know, I got a fish and I started to tip the boat. and everything went into the drink and it's lost forever.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Wow. That's a very similar fishing trip to what I experienced. That's crazy. And they're gone. All of it. Well, I'm going to have a formula to be in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:49 You know, all the food storage, baby formula, guns, all in the same body of water. Gone. That's sad because the only reason I say that is because I also, shut up.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Yeah. I had, no. I had a couple of, same. What are the odds? Same body of water. Same body of water.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Yeah. When I get home, I'm calling the sheriff to report it because I want to make sure they know. It was a big, deep body of water, too. I don't remember which one, but I know it was deep. All I know is. It was a lake or an ocean. Mine was in a lock. And I will tell you that I have seen the photos of Nessie.
Starting point is 00:08:26 And I don't know what she eats. Well, you realize how she's that big because she keeps eating all the food storage at the bottom of the lake. And she can shoot you with her eyes now. I'm guessing. I'm guessing. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. I just wouldn't go around or go looking in that lake. Well, Nessie just wants her privacy, be able to occasionally pop up and show her head. And instead, people are always spying on her and invading her private space. So she's got weapons now. You never want to violate private space unless the teacher says they can. And let's just keep that between us. Okay. Yeah, that's, then they can violate the private space. Totally comfortable. Let me tell you, I was planning on taking three days to go over and look for all the stuff in the lake.
Starting point is 00:09:14 But then I realized hate-mongering America does not have this law yet. The Spanish government is now passing a law offering three days of menstrual leave. So you can join wandering menstruals? Yes. Okay. I mean, it's Spain. You know, they have those guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:34 So it's for anybody who experiences severe period pain, otherwise known as, according to the article, dismenorrhea. Dismanaria. Yeah. Yeah, I don't want anything that ends in aria. You know what I mean? I'm even kind of worried about Korea, you know, but we should probably not call it that. I'm just, I'm comfortable with uncomfortable cramps. but now anybody who, you know, has painful cramps and men can get pregnant.
Starting point is 00:10:11 So, ow, ow, ow. Oh, my gosh, these cramps. And it's what's weird is they never happen on the weekend. Really? Yeah, usually only during the weekday. That is weird. So I may be out for a few days. Wow.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Yeah. Wow. You have them too, don't you? Oh, all the time. Let me ask you this. All the time. Did you see the memo from Netflix? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:39 It was encouraging. This is. Right? This is really good. This is really good. Netflix had a culture memo in a section called artistic expression that states it will not censor specific artists or voices, even if employees consider the content harmful. They said, if you find it hard to support our content breadth, which is so wide. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:11:17 I get those conservative shows. Oh. All the time. There's almost too many of them. Too many. There's almost too many. It goes from all the way from ultra-liberal to socialist. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:28 You know? The whole spectrum. Yeah. And once in a while, just a deep, deep progressive. Oh, it's some communism. Yeah. Some fascism. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:37 All right. So some fascism. It's good stuff. stuff. Netflix may not be the best place for you if you don't support our breadth. The memo states that employees may be required to work on projects that they perceive to be harmful. And if they have a hard time accepting their work assignment, they might want to consider working somewhere else. I honestly thought that's how all jobs worked. Yeah, me too. That's really what I believe. Yeah. And I kind of thought,
Starting point is 00:12:09 That's how it worked. Can you imagine if Stu said to you and me, Pat, you got to change your show because what you're doing is harmful and I cannot work around it. Oh, well. So who's got the problem here. Not our problem. Bye-bye. Yeah. I mean.
Starting point is 00:12:32 But that kind of changed. It seemed to change because Disney's employees kind of forced them and force their hands. hand. But this, I really think this, they say this is because of the Dave Chappelle thing. And that wasn't, I mean, that's not exactly, that wasn't, that was just common sense. That wasn't conservative. That was just common sense. He's not a conservative by any means.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Decency. And, and so I think that this is what they say, this came out because of that. However, it's been several months, hasn't it, since that came out several months. What's happened in between? Disney. What's happened in between? Spotify. Netflix getting canceled.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Their subscriptions are way down. Their stock prices are way down. It's funny. When conservatives actually play the game that has been played on us for decades, they respond. Isn't that weird? What are we learning here? What are we learning?
Starting point is 00:13:34 Their stock price goes down. They start losing money. And all of a sudden, they're like, you know what, we're, we're, we're not as inclusive as we thought we were. The Spotify one is particularly, I think, and this was not really, I don't think, conservatives stepping up, but the, the Spotify one was an interesting example because it just showed that you can survive it. Yeah. They didn't, they didn't come out and say, because they didn't even stop talking out about issues. They just said, you know, no, we're just
Starting point is 00:14:04 going to do what we're doing. And now, and part of this, I think is because they're very disconnected to US politics. This is a European company and they weren't as involved in our back and forth over that stuff and they just sort of said no, we'll just we don't have half of their employees that you know had worked for the Obama
Starting point is 00:14:23 administration. Yeah, only a third only uh, so but it's interesting because they just kind of didn't do anything. You know, they did criticize. They came out and said they pulled off episodes. They mean, they weren't perfect by any means, but they just didn't over. There's no. There's a change. They didn't over
Starting point is 00:14:39 react. There is a change that is happening. I don't know if you saw this. Black Rock, who is ESG Central, because of Ramoswami's new hedge fund that he is introducing, which is against ESGs, BlackRock voted for fewer climate shareholder provisions. They said, you know, it might be in our assessment, maybe we shouldn't micromanage companies quite so tightly. Really? Really? Really. Wow. Now, I don't believe it from Black Rock at all. That is hard to believe. But they're at least saying these things now. The tide is
Starting point is 00:15:21 changing. We are winning. And when you have a revolutionary with no hope of re-election and they're in power, I warn you, that's when they feel cornered and they become extraordinarily dangerous. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Bill O'Reilly, congratulations on your number one status. You deserve it, killing the killers. Thank you. It is on the New York Times list is number one, and it's not easy to do, as everybody knows.
Starting point is 00:16:07 I got the word on Thursday. I was in Manhattan, and I immediately went to St. Patrick's Cathedral, where my parents were married. And I said a prayer. I mean, even though this is the 18th time, I've been number one with the books, it's still, to me, almost a magical occurrence that happens. We've got a lot of hard work in these books. There's no doubt we do, and they're good, and they're interesting to read, and you'll learn a lot. But I don't think this for granted, Beck.
Starting point is 00:16:37 I mean, it's not like I take being on with Beck on Friday for granted either, but this more so. The number one thing is... You're, you know, our relationship on air is, is fun. But you wrote a very nice letter. When you found out, you were very humble, which I really thought Makata had written the email because you're very humble. And it was really nice to hear. And I was so, I'm so happy for the success.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Well, look, people, they don't understand how hard this is to do, number one. and when I get a guy like you, he's got millions of listeners, and he says he likes the book, and people know that you barely read any books, and it means a lot. Yeah. And it's true. I know. And thank you for using me. Anyway, so, Bill, what is the number one story this week in your mind?
Starting point is 00:17:32 The total collapse. You know, I want to advance this story now, the Biden story. So it's beyond any kind of debate. if you in your life have a person who still thinks that Joe Biden is doing a good job as president, then you might want to reevaluate that relationship because it's a delusional relationship. You're not dealing with a person who's got a grasp on reality. So when a wholesale price index comes in at 11.3, and nobody knows what that is, but it's what all of the vendors that you use, your grocery store, your 7-Eleven, your subway sandwich shop, whatever it may be, those are the wholesale vendors.
Starting point is 00:18:19 When they're paying 11.3% more for their product, guess who's going to have to pay that down the road? Right. Okay, guess. Maybe that's us. So it's not explained. Immediately doesn't explain this. they're embarrassed now. The media is just embarrassed because they were all behind Biden. They were in a tank for Biden. They never warned any about Biden. Beck and I did.
Starting point is 00:18:45 And I remember those conversations in the fall of 2020 with you. We both said, you may not like Trump. And there are many good reasons not to like him. But if you put this guy in, we're all going to suffer. And it's exactly what has happened. So now we have to advance the story. Because people, if you don't earn a lot of money, if you are a service worker, if you are in a union, okay, your salary isn't going up in correspondence with the prices. So therefore, your lifestyle is going down. We all understand this.
Starting point is 00:19:24 So, Bill, you know, we're sitting here today. I just don't think there is any doubt. we've gone from America first, which the left and the media thought was just so horrible. We have literally gone to America last. And I said the people who are designing the policies for Biden, it is clear they hate America. They hate America. Yeah, I know this is circulating around on the Internet that Biden, in conjunction with Obama, are trying to tank the country.
Starting point is 00:20:04 I don't even including him. I don't think he's that important, in my opinion. It is the people who are writing, whoever it is that are designing these policies, you cannot be this wrong this much. Yes, you can. Oh, you can. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:20 So on the right-wing websites, a conservative, you know, the real hardcore right, they're basically saying this is intentional to tank the economy, so that socialism rises up and the progressive left gets what they want. We whip out all traditions in America. We whip out the capitalistic
Starting point is 00:20:39 systems so they're doing it on purpose. I don't think that's happened. What I think is happening is James Buchanan is back. All right? So the White House is supposed to be haunted on the second floor. That's the residences. All right. And all the past presidents are supposed to be floating around
Starting point is 00:20:54 in apparitions. All right. So I write today and my message today on bill o'Reilly.com that Joe Biden should summon James Buchanan. Who was James Buchanan? Nobody knows, because that would require history teachers to actually teach, and that's, of course, not happening in America. 15th president of the United States, Lancaster, Pennsylvania, lifelong bachelor, many people
Starting point is 00:21:17 feel that he was gay. That's probably true. All right. That's his social problem. Gets elected president after the immortal Pierce, Franklin Pierce, who was drunk pretty much every day he was in a White House, Franklin Pierce. A lot of wine flowing. So Pierce goes out, Buchanan comes in.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Buchanan then allows the South to loot and steal all the federal armories, to take all the guns. Buchanan does nothing. Seven states secede in his four years. Basically say, blank you, James Buchanan, we're leaving because we like slavery, and that's what we're doing. So then Beganon leaves after doing nothing back, nothing for four years, allowing chaos to reign. Lincoln comes in civil war, worst debacle in American history, hundreds of thousands dead and maimed, and it's all on James Beaconan. And then he goes back to Pennsylvania. It's, oh, it wasn't my fault. That's Biden. That's Biden. So when you say he
Starting point is 00:22:29 did nothing. That was the last part of Obama's term. What Joe Biden is, or his administration is doing, is not nothing. They are, I mean, look, we are depleting our strategic oil reserves, sending the oil over to Europe, putting us into a very dangerous situation. They are canceling another oil auction for really oil. rich property while we have the highest gas prices, we have baby food shortages and they're just blaming it on the kids while there are pallets of baby food down at the border, which are required by law if you're going to have people, you have to make sure you can take care of the infants and that's right. But why are they selectively doing that law when they have an
Starting point is 00:23:22 open border policy? They're killing us every single way, every way, every way possible. Number one, those kids are eating too much, Beck. We got to cut back on that nutrition to those kids. All right? They're lucky they got out of the womb after Biden. He wouldn't have any, he doesn't want
Starting point is 00:23:43 any limitations on. They were lucky they got out of here. What are they whining about baby formula now? Is that what we're hearing? Look, Biden gets in there. He doesn't know what he's doing. Would you and Stu agree with that? He definitely does not know what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:24:00 I don't think he's He cannot administer. He cannot administer. He can't do it. People come to Biden. They walk into the Oval Office and they say, hey, let's cancel the pipeline because it's bad for climate change. And Biden says, okay. Then they come in and they say, let's not enforce border law because that's mean to the migrants. And Biden goes, okay. Then they say, Hey, under Trump, inflation was just 1.4% and Trump had to deal with the COVID shutdown completely. Now, under you, it's 11%, but let's blame COVID. And he goes, okay, this is a man who cannot think in the office. I agree with that, but I'm talking about the people who are coming into the office. All right, but they're not going to make a personnel decision. He's not going to say, hey, Larry, you're an idiot,
Starting point is 00:25:07 and the last seven things you've told me to do have been horrible for the country. People don't understand what the word incapacitated means. He can't make decisions on anything. Whether he knows it or not, he is overseeing a group of people that are in a death cult. what they are doing is causing, I mean, just look at the border. We have now the CDC's national vital statistics from 2021. There were 107,622 Americans between 18 and 49 that died from fentanyl. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:50 That's the largest number of Americans who have died from drug overdoses ever and an increase of about 15%. an increase from 2020, an increase of 50% from 2019. Now, you've got those numbers. Now let's look at what happened with COVID. Same time period, 18 to 49 in 2021. So I'm giving it at the height. 1849, one year, there were only 41,000 deaths. And we shut down everything.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Everything. We are killing our 18 to 49 year old adults. and they don't give a flying crap. Okay, that's all true. But do you think Joe Biden has a sheet of paper with those stats in front of him, and he's actually thinking about how to solve the problem? No, but I do think the people who are making policy,
Starting point is 00:26:44 for instance, the safe smoking kits with a free crack pipe. Somebody put that together. Then somebody hit it, Saki. Somebody made the decision to hide it. And now we do know that, yes, five cities got free crack pipes. Listen, you can do this all day long. You can, you can, every policy, everyone that the federal government has dealt with in the last 16 months has failed. So you might think that there be some firings, right?
Starting point is 00:27:23 Maybe some new blood come in? No. because Biden doesn't know the difference between success and failure. See, people, when I say this, they don't believe me. They don't believe me. No, I think, I think, because you cannot think, he is incapable of thinking. But you might think that you and I disagree. We don't.
Starting point is 00:27:47 On that part, we're in, we're in lock. What you're saying is these incompetent people around him doing these crazy things, All right, yes, yes, but nobody's going to replace them, all right? Because that would have to come from Biden. Yeah. And he doesn't know what they're doing, doesn't care particularly what they're doing, wants to go to Delaware and have some jello. That's where he is.
Starting point is 00:28:19 And also spend some of his Chinese money. The best of the Glenn Beck program. I have to tell you, the Amber heard Johnny Depp thing, they deserve each other, quite honestly. I mean, I know very little about it except there was poop in a shoe or poop in the bed. Maybe the shoe was on the bed. I thought it was... The shoe may have been on the bed. There may have been poop in the bed and poop in a shoe.
Starting point is 00:28:54 I'm not really sure. I don't really care. It is fascinating to watch this thing play out, though, because most Americans, you know, not the smarter Americans. just care so deeply about Johnny Depp or Amber Heard or blah, blah, blah. Well, I read the first article that I cared about from Azra Nomani, who is a frequent guest on this program, good friend of the program. She wrote it in the Federalist,
Starting point is 00:29:22 how the Washington Post and ACLU helped Amber Heard attack Johnny Depp. Listen to this because it's amazing. Azra is on with us now. Hi, Asra. How are you? You can hear me clinking away. while I warm some water so I can, I don't cough through this interview. Thank you for, thank you for being on with me.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Absolutely. What a great article. Can you lay this out? Because I don't think most people even know any of this. Yeah. Important. And I'm glad that you, you know, are, had a full disclosure that you don't care, you know, on the celebrity. I don't.
Starting point is 00:29:59 I don't. Yeah. That's fine. That's absolutely cool. And, but the thing is, this is so important as a window in, you know, to money, politics, and Hollywood. Okay? That's what's so critical here.
Starting point is 00:30:12 So what we have playing out is our two celebrities, right, with a terrible relationship, both of them, you know, unhealthy. Yeah, deeply broken, both. Deeply broken, exactly. And so, you know, our humanity has to extend to all people. Sure. Well, then what we have is a nonprofit, a quote-unquote nonprofit, right, the ACLU, 501c3, multi-million dollar organization, right, that has lost its way,
Starting point is 00:30:46 according to even an Atlantic article last week, taking advantage of this story and catapulting then Amber Heard to become their poster girl for women's rights. Okay, so now they did this. didn't she say that she was giving, I think, $3 million to the ACLU from the divorce settlement, right? Yes. And she only gave like $500,000 and then others started to pay for her. Yeah. So what I did is to back up a little bit, right?
Starting point is 00:31:24 I, as you are, like we've written op-eds, right? We know how they are written. We know how they are placed. We know how they are promoted. So what I did is I just analyzed how it is that Amber Hurd's op-ed appeared in the Washington Post, and I broke it down into six phases, publishing her credibility. Because, you know, at the end of every op-ed, you have two lines that are in italics, and they establish who the person is and why they are a subject matter expert, right?
Starting point is 00:32:02 So what happened is that Amber heard her italics says that she is now, you know, working as this ACLU women's rights advocate. Well, it was a classic pay-to-play operation where she said that she was going to donate her $7 million of divorce settlement, you know, this altruistic act to the ACLU and a children's hospital in L.A. But indeed, just as you just said, she only donated a very small portion. And then the court testimony reveals that, in fact, Johnny Depp paid $100,000 directly to the ACLU because he's like, why have a middleman, you know, in this operation if she's going to be so altruistic? And then who does she end up also having donate? She had none other than her next boyfriend, Elon Musk.
Starting point is 00:32:55 And so that's the first phase. She established her credibility, and the ACLU established her credibility, but behind the scenes was this classic. And explain what happened there. Okay, so they've established her as a human rights. And now they have, this is, I'm going to take people back to the fall of 2018. It's a long time ago. But just think about, we have President Trump, okay, in office. So think about that.
Starting point is 00:33:28 He's been in office a couple years now. we have just had, you know, Betsy DeVos named early on in the administration. We have this little thing called Title IX. It's a controversial issue. It's supposed to have given women equal rights in school. And is that through politics, it ended up becoming a hit job, which is a term that you're going to hear again on men oftentimes on college campuses, where they were not given due process.
Starting point is 00:34:05 And so you're going to hear a theme here now because what they did is in November 2018 for the ACLU sends a Amber Hurd's PR person and says, hey, wouldn't it be great if Amber Hurd wrote at mine was one of the issues that this communication staffer said? And let me actually quote that memo. that memo. I'd like your and Amber's thoughts on doing
Starting point is 00:34:41 an op-ed in which she discusses the way in which survivors of gender based violence have been made less safe under the Trump administration and how people can take action. If she feels comfortable, she can interweave her personal story
Starting point is 00:34:57 saying how painful it is as a gender-based violence survivor to witness these setbacks. Yes. Okay. So the, so you and I know as writers, and I'll give folks context that I taught writing the reported op-ed at Georgetown University to students. So I've been writing op-eds myself for 20 years, and I taught it. And one of the first things that I always taught students, as you know, too, Glenn, is give people
Starting point is 00:35:31 a personal connection. That's exactly what they did. And I didn't study my rhetoric, but later in life, I learned pathos, ethos, logos, right? So you have to have logic, you have to have rationality, and you have to have to. That's what they've been grabbed for Amber Heard to amplify.
Starting point is 00:35:51 So I've got about three minutes to finish this story. Oh my gosh. So the writer, the ACLU writes back, tried to gather your fire and your rage, and really interesting analysis and shape that into an op-eb form. I hope it sounds true to you. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Your lawyers should review this. for the way I skirted around talking about your marriage. So she didn't even, she didn't write it. It was presented to her. Yes. And then the rest of the story, it's so important, is the ACLU communication staff pitched it to Michael Larrabee, op-ed editor at the Washington Post. He should have known better.
Starting point is 00:36:31 They should have known better. And they are complicit in this hit job on Johnny Depp. And this is not just about celebrity, but this is about the abyss. abuse of power by a nonprofit organization and a journalism operation, a complete breach of ethics. There's no transparency in who wrote this piece. And if any one of my students had presented an assignment written by another student, they would have failed, right? And so they owe Johnny Depp an apology, their readers an apology, and they should just retract the op-ed.
Starting point is 00:37:05 but it's an important critical window into how it is that these special interest groups place their, quote, subject matter experts in there to push their own talking points. Azra Nomani, thank you so much. Oh my gosh. Thank you, Glenn. The Washington Post did publish this in their opinion section under the headline, Amber Heard. I spoke up against sexual violence and faced our culture's wrath, and that has to change. We'll say, in the phone, all the world
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