The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program | Guests: Bill O’Reilly, Gavin McInnes, & Megyn Kelly | 10/23/20

Episode Date: October 23, 2020

Bill O’Reilly returns to give Glenn and Stu his thoughts on the final presidential debate and whether Trump managed to convince anyone that Biden is corrupt. Vice Media co-founder Gavin McInnes discusses the Left’s obsession with the Proud Boys and dispel the media’s myths. Megyn Kelly lays into the media's biased coverage of the Hunter Biden scandal and Trump’s "60 Minutes" interview. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's Friday. What a jam-packed Friday. Great conversation with Gavin McGuinness, Bill O'Reilly, Megan Kelly, and we go all through last night's debate. This is one you don't want to miss. Also, tomorrow night at mercury1.org, m1 nextchapter.com, my Facebook page, YouTube page, also on the Blaze TV, a mega special. Mercury One's next chapter. We have an update, an incredible update from the field where rescues are going on of slaves all over the world.

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Talking the streets of New York in his disco boots, Mr. Bill O'Reilly. Hello, Bill. How are you? Just call me Superfly. Yeah, yeah. How are things? You know, we're moguls. Yeah, oh, yeah.

No, I know. I know. And you got another book, Al. What a surprise. Yeah, I know. He's actually got Killing Crazy Horse and maybe, maybe I'll give you a couple of minutes to mention. your new book, Killing Crazy Horse, which has been a New York Times bestseller now for,

God knows how long, and you can get it wherever books are sold. I might allow you to say that a little later. Very kind of you, Beck, but that's your general disposition, very generous, very kind. Yeah, so you seem to be kind of in a happy mood. Tell me about what happened with Donald Trump last night, what your take is, and was it enough, and is it soon enough? well Trump won the debate

he was more commanding toward primarily so there wasn't a lot of immature nonsense that we saw on the first debate Biden held his own though

and Biden was much better than he has been in the sense that he was able to get his opinion across and you knew what he was talking about he faltered at the end when he got tired

you could see he was looking at his watch you know he's going listen, do I get milk or not? I haven't been up this late since 1946. It was one of those things, and you know, you know, when you get tired, it's late, you get crack. So Biden faltered a little bit at the end, but he held his own. But let's talk about Trump, because

it was all about him last night in the sense that if he had not performed well, he would have lost the election. So he's put himself back into play. in the sense that I don't believe any of this. There aren't any undecide voters. You also, I think, made gains among African Americans because that was his strongest suit last night. It was good.

You know, he said, look, this is what I've done. And then Biden does what Biden always does. And for eight years, Biden and Obama didn't do a damn thing. And 47 years, 47 in the Senate. thing, though. Look, Biden and Obama had an

opportunity to reshape the debate in this country on race, and they did not do it. So they didn't elevate, they didn't say, look, we got a problem here

because there's a terrible education system in the poor neighborhoods. It's impacting on the children negatively, and they're growing up and they're committing more crimes proportionally

than whites. That's what it's all about. I don't care. Bill, Bill, Bill, let me remind you what Joe Biden said. They had a Republican Congress. Oh, yeah. Okay. So there wasn't even the debate.

And I know this because I, on more than one occasion, spoke to the president about this. Because I was involved with the Brothers Keeper program. We can talk about that a little later on if you want. But I'm telling you the exact truth that they weren't able to get the discussion into the public arena. And I don't even know how hard. He comes on, and of course with his usual bombast, Donald Trump, the greatest president for blacks is Abraham Lincoln.

I don't know if you really need that. Maybe you say since Martin Van Buren, you know, but you probably want to leave Lincoln out of it. However, he doesn't. And then he goes on to list an impressive array. that help African Americans. Yeah. So he used some votes off there.

I mean, I was watching it with Ice Cube and we were both impressed. That's not true. That's not true. So, no, you weren't with Ice Cube because I know you guys hang out all the time. I invited them, but I really don't want to know. Right. Okay. So, so Bill, what was the big takeaway last night?

Was it that he is, he's only banning full. fracking on federal land. Oh, that was a disaster that was. Yeah. And I am going to, I am going to get rid of fossil fuels and, uh, and oil by 2035. So we've got 14 years. At the end, when he started to go outside again, um, you know, it was, I'm telling you back, you want to pull a little.

No, I, I would not bet, but I wouldn't bet. I wouldn't bet either way on this election. I mean, I have no idea what's going on, but I will tell you. I just talked to somebody, in fact, let me read the email that I got last night, and it was very, very positive. Glenn had extensive briefing on inside polling numbers from the field extremely different from what most of the national media is showing. Based on the numbers right now, Trump is doing very good in the battleground states. Interestingly, numbers currently show Texas is more of a problem than several of the battleground states. Democrats are crushing Republican. in the urban and suburban areas, but it looks like the rural areas are outperforming,

which may make the difference in Texas. I heard that Cruz time and that Beto O'Rourke was going to be the nomad. I know. I know, but Cruz did lose, Cruz won by how many? Five points? Two points. I mean, six points? I believe it was.

I mean, I'm going to put everybody to rest. I'm calling Texas for Trump now. So just put it on that little board. We are, here you have. Now we're going to be banned by Twitter and Facebook, and Google's going to send their police squad out. But, you know, it is going to be a close election. I do believe that.

I think that last night in the debate, Trump helped himself more than Biden did. And that's always how you calibrate a wince in a debate. Who helped themselves more? Because he didn't come across his o-fish. Word of the day, O-Fish. O-A-F-I-S-H. I eat O-F-Fish all the time.

You don't have to spell it. You need a tutor, and I will pick it up. So, Bill, was it enough in time? Yeah. How much money did Biden take from Ukraine? I mean, that story. And I caution everybody on this story. I believe myself because of his public service,

that's what I believe, highly highly highly positive. entirely possible that he enriched himself in the process. I always think about Gerald Ford, a guy from Grand Rapids, Michigan, without a penny, and he retires to Palm Springs and living in a lavish mansion. How did that happen? Anyway, I believe that people about the detail. We haven't nailed down yet, so don't be running around.

But that thing is in play. And, you know, people, they hear things, if there is more that comes forth that shows Biden's vice president and senator enriched himself and his family, that's going to be huge. So that's there. And Trump was pretty good last night, getting that out, even though the debate moderator, who I thought did a pretty good job, Ms. Welker. Every time he tried to do it, she jumped in.

Right. and diverted the question away. It was like Leslie Stahl when you saw the 60 Minutes interview, which I think everybody should watch the whole thing, not the edited version of it. You know, Trump looked at her. He goes, are you kidding me?

This is the biggest story, political story. You're not going to say, and it's verified. We haven't verified it. For two and a half years, CBS News pounded the guy in a Russian collusion. It was about one single thing verified.

you did it. And now you wouldn't even discuss this Biden thing with Trump? Amad, I mean, Americans, some of them are stupid, but most of them are. They see the fixes in. They're suspicious of Joe Biden. I mean,

a good thing about Trump is that we know everything about Trump. All right? We know it. If you're in the United States of Trump, you know him. You're not going to be surprised in the next nine days. Biden, you might be. I think there's a couple of things here on this.

I thought Donald Trump did a great job last night going, they spent $46 million in three and three quarters years trying to discredit me, trying to dig up anything on me, the family, our business, etc. They got nothing. They got nothing. He said, give me a million bucks. I think I can find a lot on this guy. In points Donald Trump did.

But you raise the question. Is it enough? and it isn't enough for the people who hate him. And there was one other thing, and he left a couple of opportunities on, you know, as I said last night, I just can't believe he didn't bring up when they were talking to the border.

Look at Biden and say, you want to explain to me why the American taxpayer should pay all the health care costs for undocumented aliens? That's a knockout blow. So rather than being on the defense, you bring stuff like that.

waiting for it and never can't never happen and on the COVID which if Trump loses it'll be because of COVID that that's why all he had to do was look into the camera and say you know in hindsight I wish I had been more pro-mask purge that a little bit more than I did but we didn't know we were getting conflicted information and the major things that I did saved a lot of lives but he'll never make that kind of a concession but anyway um Going forward, which I think everybody wants to do now, Trump has a real chance to win. And the polls are bogus.

We know that. The polls I'm watching are Rasmussen and Trafalgar, both of which were right last time four years ago. And they both show him positioned, but not in a dire position. He could win. Fall is in the air, and for me that means saying goodbye to the Texas heat, at least for a couple of months until it's back again.

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Sorry to wake you up. I know you probably had more drinking than we did in your coverage of the debate last night. Well, I think Biden attacked us, and the joke was P-O-U-R. He was implying that we drink too much. And when someone excuses you of that, the first thing you want to do is have a drink. Right. I'm just a poor boy. Nobody loves me.

Right. But we went to the pub, and I was accosted by feminists at the pub. a very fat woman and a woman with a shaved head and the left it's their right to interrogate you when they see a popular conservative

in public so I had to answer all these questions like the Spanish Inquisition and when this happens it'll probably happen to you too you just say show me a right-wing riot and I demanded she show me that

and she pulled up something on her phone about people demonstrating against COVID and it ended the night at the end of the interrogation, and she just yelled, you're a Nazi on the way out of the bus. So, Gavin, I have to ask you, because you started the proud boys kind of as a joke. I mean, you know, like you just did,

you know, you over the top masculinity, just to just to really kind of hack people off. Right? Yes. It's still a joke. It's, it's, it's, people say it was started as a joke and then it went out of control. No, it started as a joke. It's still.

a joke. Yes, there's violence because there's violence. I mean, we're living in violence right now. That's the era we're in. I think rich upper middle class whites don't see the violence in their face, but in Manhattan if I do a talk, if if Dave Goldie does a talk, if Cassandra

Fairbanks is walking with her kid, there's violence. So we're happy to fight them. No one else is and that makes us violent. So the proud boys, if I'm not mistaken, you refused to go to the

Unite the Right Rally, which is the one that everybody says Donald Trump, he said there's good people on both sides. There were Nazis there. But you guys weren't there, weren't you? Were you? I expected a high five after Charlottesville because I said

I don't like this Jason Kessler dude. He lied about being all right. This is smelling like a rat. They're calling it a statues demonstration, but I feel like it's going to be a Nazi thing. I was correct. I called it months in advance. I said, if you go to that thing, you're out of the proud boys, sorry, the poor boys. That makes me hungry.

Like they said, no, there was a couple guys there or something. And I didn't get my high five for predicting that it was a Nazi thing. I'm at the point now where I think Charlotte's though was a Fed operation. I think Jason Kess was a Fed. It just, it reeks of a setup. And we spotted it, yet we're still blamed for it. I did newsmax yesterday. And I just sit there like a bad boy with my handout and repeat, I'm not a white supremacist. I'm not a white nationalist. It's this weird anti-white humiliation we have to do. So, Gavin, when you hear Joe Biden talk about the one group, single out one group besides the Nazis,

and you weren't even there and you were warning against it, how does that make you feel? it makes me insane and my wife's a liberal she's lost all her friends you know she's got all these family problems because of this lie this this election

these past four years have been Orwellian everything up is down and the fact that we're out there trying to promote you know the first and second amendment in American values and being called Nazis for it is just

you got to laugh you got to see the humor in it We're living in the craziest time in history, but it's also the funniest time in history. Okay, I have to tell you that this is not something that I would ever wish on myself or anybody else. But if it happens, it's kind of cool to be singled out as a, as the, the mullahs in Iran using something you came up with as a joke. and them using it to try to sway the election. I mean, in some ways, that's kind of, I wouldn't want it to happen to me or you, honestly,

but I mean, it's kind of cool that it did, right? It is funny. It'll be funny to tell my grandchildren. And someone in media, you want to have influence. So it is cool that we've come up in the past two, the only two presidential debates. That's interesting. But what a clown world.

And they're not sending their best. like sending an email from proud voice it says we're going to kill you if you don't vote for Trump obviously the FBI is going to trace those emails obviously you're going to get caught your son left a laptop at a repair place

could you be more amateur at this I think they're just spoiled brats they're like monarchs we're dealing with that weird gay king in the movie Braveheart that's a that might be a little obscure you know all these years later He's like a prince or something. I don't remember, but strangely, I do kind of have a recollection of that.

Yeah. So, Gavin, are you voting for Donald Trump or did you vote for him last time? I back him a thousand percent. He's going to win in a landslide. The left will contest it. They will talk about mail-in ballots. They will contest it so much that come January, first, he's going to have to use the Supreme Court to say,

finish counting your stupid fake ballots. We've got to get to work here. And then they'll contest it for the next four years. You know they're going to blame you and the proud boys for anything that happens violent in the streets. Yes. And isn't that amazing? It's been five months of rioting. I count 32 deaths directly, not tangentially related to the riots, but actually in the riots,

32 deaths. It's been $3 billion worth of damage, the most in American history. 98 of the biggest 100 cities in America have experienced rioting. Every single state has had statues destroyed. And the news, including Fox News, by the way, is what if Proud Boys riot? What if they get mad? What? They're so scared of mythical riots. It's all this what if militia groups get mad.

Why don't you look out your window right now and look at the left, groups that are burning the country to the ground. How is that not a problem? They're not mostly peaceful, Michelle. Gavin, I thank you for the evidence on how racist you really are when you talk about all the deaths that BLM has caused. We all know those were COVID deaths. Yeah, those deaths, by the way, those 32 deaths are mostly black and Hispanic. And they're from COVID.

Nope. Thank you so much, Gavin. I appreciate. Thanks for coming on the program. And it's just got to be surreal being you this week. I've been thinking about you a lot. Every time I hear about the poor boys, I think this has got to be surreal.

Got to be a surreal world. Thank you so much, Gavin. Appreciate it. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. And we really want to thank you for listening. A world-renowned journey. journalist, somebody who has interviewed just about every damn prime minister on the planet, every famous person on the planet, Time Magazine's 100 most influential people in the world, Hollywood

reporters, Women in Entertainment, Power 100. She was on the cover of Vanity Fair, only the second news anchor in history to do that. She's also practiced law, litigator for nine years. Her memoir settled for more debuted at number one on the New York Times. She has also moderated five presidential debates, and that's why I wanted to have her on now. She's also the host of a brand new podcast called The Megan Kelly Show, found wherever you get your podcast. Welcome to the program, friend of the program, Megan Kelly. Hi, Megan.

Megan, are you there? Yeah, yeah, sorry. I can hear you. Okay. Thank you for that very nice introduction. Yeah, thank you. So I saw you rant a bit, and I want to talk to you about the debate, but I want to start with the press. Have you ever seen anything like what the press is doing right now on 60 minutes, but also Joe Biden's scandal?

No, it's disgusting. It's just, it's stomach turning, but it's just a continuation of what we've seen over the past couple of years. Their trumped arrangement syndrome has blinded them to what they're doing to their own credibility. They can't get it back. It's too late. They've already sacrificed it. And now no one is listening to them other than the hard partisans for whom they craft their news. So the 60 Minutes thing was really eye-opening, wasn't it?

So let's go over that. Tell me your takeaways on that. So I watch 60 Minutes. I'm like a mild fan of it. It's kind of dodgy and it's pretty old school. but, you know, I grew up seeing it, so you got that sort of back. And I loved Mike Wallace. I thought he was the best ever.

He's like, if you ask me who I want to be like, that's why I want to be like Mike Wallace. But anyway, Leslie Stahl, when I watched her on the unedited 37 minutes, my main takeaway was the 60 Minutes producers are so much better than we've been giving them credit for. Like, they took this woman, and I'm sorry to rip on her, but who sounded whiny and petulant and immature. and biased and unprepared, and they somehow wind up slicing and dicing it to the point where we have this image of a professional, smooth, polished, tough interviewer. But she, like, I can give you ten examples. One just up the top of my head is like, she's pressing him and why he doesn't make the people who go to the Donald Trump rallies wear masks. You're very powerful. Why? Why don't you tell them? And, you know, Trump, he never hits it right.

on the head. He's just kind of like, oh, I tell him, I tell him. It's like, why didn't he look at her and say, Leslie, I'm not their daddy. They understand that masks and social distancing are what is recommended. I don't run through the crowds and say, and you, and you, and you, that is not my job. They're grownups. They can make their own just. And just her whininess on the subject betrayed her bias and hatred for Trump. Yes. But it went down the line on every question. She also claimed that Joe Biden's not in a scandal at all. There's no scandal. I tweeted out and I really believe this. It was such a meta moment.

It's like so media refuses to cover a scandal because it's going to hurt Joe Biden. And then when the actual other candidate says, hey, that guy's having a scandal, media responds with, what scandal? There's no scandal because you refuse to cover it. Like there's no, right, if you don't hear the bear in the woods or whatever, however the saying goes, there is there. And now we've heard it from enough witnesses who are involved in it and the DNI saying this is not Russian disinformation that the press has run out of excuses to not try to cover it. And the only obvious explanation for it all is the one that we knew from the beginning, which is their bias toward Biden and against Trump. So is the information, excuse me, the information that has come out right now, how would you have covered the laptop and the information? What do you think is a reasonable way to cover that?

now. Well, I think you try to track down the legally blind computer repair man. I just can't really get past that part of the store. I don't understand how you wind up in that line of work in your leap. But anyway, you know, I'm with you. Yeah. Right. Okay. So anyway, you track him down, you ask him questions, you know, that may or may not lend credibility to the story. You do what Fox News did and actually what I have done as well, which is try to get the Hunter Biden signature on, you know, when he gave the laptop, which I've seen personally, and so as some of the inquiring media like Fox, you try to take a look at the emails yourself, you go through the chain of custody to figure out how you got the emails, and then understanding that you're not going to get that

laptop, you're not going to get the original source because the FBI has it. You disclose that to your audience, and you say, look, this is what we did to try to satisfy ourselves, this is a real story. There is this asterisk, because no one's going to be able to see the actual laptop. and let the viewers decide whether they think this is credible or not credible. But all the time news organizations go to press with stories that they can't completely know are 100% bulletproof. Hello, Steele Dossi, right? Everything for the last five years, everything that they have run with. Let me take you to the statement from NPR.

Did you happen to read that? Yeah, it's outrageous. It's completely outrageous. It is saying we know better than you do. We're not going to cover this because there's not even a story here. Well, of course there's a story there. Even if it turned out that the story was Rudy Giuliani made that laptop out of chewing gum and foil wrappers. That's a story.

But for them to say there's no story, especially at this time, my question is, did Donald Trump do enough and and and and and and and how do you combat when half of the country is getting their news and vast portions of what's really going on are just gone how do you break through and did he do enough to at least incite some curiosity on wait what is he even talking about well first and foremost NPR gets federal tax dollars so it's just it's really outrageous that they they should be so openly biased and show absolutely zero interest to actually investigate major facts in a presidential race. Shame on them. But I do think this race is in large ways between Donald Trump and the media. And I think they completely declared against him and it's really hard for him to break through

because I think a lot of independence, those are the only persuadables, maybe some working class Democrats are, they watch CNN thinking this is the news. Like this is, I'm going to getting the news. They know if they watch MSNBC, they're getting left-wing bias. But I think there's still a hangover reputation for CNN that it might just be real news instead of MSNBC under different call letters. And so if I were Trump, if I, you know, if I were advising Trump, I would have said, Mr. President, before you go out there tonight, you have to assume they don't know anything about this. People are living their lives. They're not obsessing about Hunter Biden. Trust me. So if you want to make this point, you're going to have to sort of forgive the term, dumb it down so that people who

aren't steeped in news can get it and can get it easily. Like, let me tell you, members of the American public, this guy is as corrupt as they come. He says he had no business dealings with his son, Hunter, who's deeply troubled. Well, he has. And now we know because of a laptop that Hunter Biden gave to some repairman and never picked up that Hunter Biden was cutting deals in Ukraine. He was trying to cut deals in China, some of which looped Joe Biden in as a monetary participant, some of which looped him in as just the guy who needed to do something so Hunter could get paid while Biden was vice president. Either way you look at it, it's totally corrupt and the media blackout of the story shows you, American people, that it's you and me working against them. Well, he didn't do that,

but that would have been very, very good. But he didn't, he didn't do that. You have done clear on the complex stuff. You are, you have done five presidential, debates. This, I think, was the best moderator yet of these debates. But can you tell me, as I look, they were supposed to talk about foreign policy, but of course, nobody wants to talk about foreign policy because what's going on in the Middle East, which is miraculous what's happening in the Middle East. But as you look at that, it was COVID, which they covered at nauseam, the first debate,

and the second debate. There was no foreign policy, and everything was really. kind of playing towards Biden's POV. Of course. So is that the moderator's responsibility? Yes. I mean, I agree with you that she was the best so far. And I like Kristen Welker.

I knew a little when I worked at NBC, and I think she's a stand-up person. I think she managed the two candidates as well as anyone could. Yeah. But I do think some of her left-wing bias was reflected in the overwhelming number of times she interrupted Trump instead of Biden. and in the topic selection. I mean, why wouldn't we be talking about what's happening in the Middle East or Afghanistan? And instead, once again, back to Black Lives Matter and race. I mean, this is like the left is obsessed.

They are obsessed with pigmentation and genitalia. It's like everything is seen through the lens of like lady parts and pigmentation. I'm sick of it. It's like we've covered this now. At so many debates, I can't believe she didn't ask them me. you've refused to condemn white supremacian. I know, I know. But she got around to, you know, like you said this stuff about Black Lives Matter.

Again, not a question to Joe Biden about where's his condemnation for Antipa, which actually is causing riots in the streets right now. So it is frustrating to me as somebody who's more in the middle, the way the news media approaches, forget Donald Trump because he's controversial, but just Republicans in general. But I thought understanding that the bias is baked in, she did about as well as you could expect from somebody who's, you know, probably leaning over that way. Do you believe the polls? Not really.

Not really. I have to say, in general I do, and so I have a history of believing them, but I think we learned through Trump last year that there's real reason to doubt them when Donald Trump is involved. So what do you think is going to happen? Well, let me tell you something, Glenn. If you look at where Joe Biden is polling today versus where Hillary Clinton was polling on this exact same date four years ago, she was polling better. she was polling better than Joe Biden is in virtually every swing state, virtually all of them versus Donald Trump. And she lost the race. So don't let anyone tell you that just because Joe Biden is polling ahead, even in the swing states, he's got this thing locked up.

He doesn't. And I actually think there's even more reason this time around to doubt the polls than the last time because people have been more shamed than ever to say that they like Donald Trump. people are getting kicked out of their sororities for saying that. They're getting their hands slapped on Twitter. Their companies are getting, they're getting fired if they like a tweet that is controversial about Black Lives Matter. Like, our whole society is cracked down on freedom of opinion, and I think they're more afraid than ever to say how they really feel. When they go in that voting booth, it's between them and their God. And if I had to put money on it right now, I would put money on Trump, but it's anybody's ballgame.

Last question, Megan. When you look at what is what's coming, it could go either way. I tend to agree with you that it's going to go Trump's way. But we know that the left has planned. I mean, they announced that they had 200 organizations already ready for protests if Donald Trump wins. How is that going to come down? What is the press going to do if he wins? I mean, I think you know the answer to that question, right?

It's going to be a calamity. It's going to be like Adolf Hitler was put into the Oval Office by an American public that doesn't care at all about anybody in any minority group. And you're going to see anchors openly shedding tears on election night. Whereas if Biden wins, Republicans will suck it up and move on. I mean, that's just, that's the way people are built in this country. We've seen it happen enough times. Whoever wins, half the country will tune out from traditional media for the next few months. And I actually believe based on my own history that they'll come to people like you, like me, they'll come to podcasts where they can hear smart cultural discussions that aren't necessarily all politics, either for soothing, for a soothing bomb and an escape, or just to hear like a smart take on what the country may be going through at that time. So I think it'll be good for podcasters, you know, like me and like you, and I mean, you're more than a podcaster, but we're all in the, we all do the same, we're all shoveling the same crap every day. I'd love to have.

But I think it's going to be a lot of tears, a lot of tears and a lot of playing up of anything that's dramatic on television. Megan, I appreciate you and your point of view and being on the program. I'd love to have you on again because you said something yesterday. You tweeted, it's fun being outside corporate media, and I would love to unpack that with you, but I'm out of time this time. I hope to have you on again. Thank you so much, Megan.

You bet. She is the host of the Megan Kelly Show now on podcast, and you can find it wherever you get your Podcasts. Na, Na, Na, Na,