The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program | Guests: Bill O'Reilly & Rep. Thomas Massie | 5/1/20

Episode Date: May 1, 2020

Joe Biden finally discussed and denied Tara Reade’s allegations that he sexually assaulted her. Surprisingly, MSNBC’s Mika Brzezinski did not go light on him in the interview. But Biden seemed afr...aid to release his Delaware records. Bill O’Reilly joins to discuss Biden’s karma, how bad the Democrats’ Kavanaugh standard is, and how Nancy Pelosi is even worse. Rep. Thomas Massie makes the argument for the PRIME Act to revive the local meat processing industry in the face of a shortage. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:25 Welcome to the podcast. Big news today. Joe Biden. Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. The seemingly the Democratic candidate for president of the United States finally got asked after 35 days of an accusation of sexual assault was finally asked in the media. And honestly, you got to give Mika some credit.
Starting point is 00:00:50 She actually pushed him pretty hard on this stuff. We'll get into that today kind of as it's happening. The comparison between Joe Biden and Brett Kavanaugh spend some differences I've noticed. Also, Bill O'Reilly is. on, Bill was on fire today. He is really fired up about this. And he goes on about not only the Biden situation, but also the media handling of it. We get into that. Pat Gray joins us as well. And Thomas Massey about our food supply. Are we going to be able to get the food that we need?
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Starting point is 00:02:06 You're listening to. The best of the Glenn Beck program. Did I say, Hello America? It's Friday. Joe Biden, apparently, has finally addressed the Terra Reid issue after what?
Starting point is 00:02:32 35 days without anyone asking him to explain himself? 35 days. In fact, when yesterday, when the press was talking about this, They went after Donald Trump somehow or not. They made it about Donald Trump. So he's finally come under enough pressure because the Uber left. And I will say this about the Uber left.
Starting point is 00:02:59 They actually believe in something. I mean, Elon Omar believes in something. You know, it's a destruction of America. But she does fully believe it. And she's willing to do it. where most of the Democratic Party is, and I'm talking about the leadership, they just don't care. I mean, they're just in it for the money or the power or to win. They're not actually die hard and they'll do anything to win.
Starting point is 00:03:26 So the Uber left has started to come out and say, excuse me, and they're turning on the press first. And that's why you're seeing now the press and the Washington posted an editorial yesterday. and then the New York Times did an editorial, like they've been covering this and demanding answers. Nobody's asked him. But now they're like, this is getting ridiculous. He's got to answer for this. And so he did.
Starting point is 00:03:56 And here's what he said on MSNBC just a few minutes ago. And please, to our viewers, please excuse the graphic nature of this. But I want to make sure that there is no question as to what we're talking about. She says in 1993, Mr. Vice President, that you pender against the wall and reached under her clothing and penetrated her with your fingers. Would you please go on the record with the American people? Did you sexually assault Tara Reid? No, it is not true. I'm saying unequivocally, it never, never happened. And it didn't. It never happened. I, you know, I really expected him to say.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Ah, yeah. Dang it. I was hoping you wouldn't ask me that question. You got me. You got me. Yeah, I did. Yeah, I did penetrate her with my, yeah, I did. Dang it.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Why did you have to ask? I've been doing so well for 35 days. Yes. Why did you ask me that? Ah, you forced me into it. I wish I didn't have to say it, but I do. Yes. Yes, I did.
Starting point is 00:05:06 What did? I strangely feel, but I strangely feel better now. I do. I feel better. Now that I've got it off my chest, you know what? I brought in, in fact, I brought in a notebook. I've got this little black notebook of all the people that I've penetrated with my fingers. And I just, I just like to, it's strangely, it starts with Alan Specter.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Arlen Specter is Arlen Specter is in this and I don't remember it In fact, Jill, can you come on in here? I got some things to admit to you. Come on in. Let me tell you about this stuff.
Starting point is 00:05:51 I would not put any of this past Joe Biden, by the way. This can actually happen. Oh, at this point. And everybody would be looking at the, you know, in his rec room looking at him like, what are you doing? No, no, no, no, no. Oh, I am.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Oh, I suppose to do the other way. Oh, okay. He'd have absolutely no idea. I mean, I'm not surprised by the response, but I am surprised that he seemed to know who he was talking to, what he was talking about, you know, his name, the fact that he even was a senator.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Do we have more of this? I know this just broke. And so we are trying to get, but just give me the raw audio. Martin, if you're in the control room, if you can just give me the raw audio, I'd just like to play the whole thing because apparently Mika did hold his feet to the fire a little bit. And, you know, she was very, very somber. And I just want to. And you'll notice there wasn't a man on the screen.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Well, except for Joe Biden. But there wasn't a man on the screen. You know, this was, this is a big moment for Mika. it's a big moment and and I think she is uh I think she is she do you think she's one of these people on the left that actually believes in something
Starting point is 00:07:17 um no but I think she is um not we should ask her that question because I'm sure she'd come out and go yeah no I actually don't me I was hoping you would ask me that question but I strangely feel better now. Yeah. I mean, does she stand for something?
Starting point is 00:07:39 Remember her behavior during the 2016 election? She was Donald Trump's best friend when she didn't think he was going to win. She was all over him. And then when all of a sudden he started winning, like, oh, I'm very mad and I'm going to stop going to Mara Lago every weekend. So no, she stands for nothing. But I wouldn't say that. That is right. I forgot about that.
Starting point is 00:07:58 She is one of those people where I could see her. realizing that this is not going well and not trying to sink or trying to put him on put his feet to the fire here because I mean look if you're a Democrat this is all going to happen like whether you let it happen now or you let it happen in October on a debate stage he Donald uh Joe Biden's going to be pressed on all of this stuff so you might as well test him now and see if he can get through this because if you give if you push him now and he falls apart and crumbles there's a chance you can replace him, you can go another direction. You let this sit and let him take the nomination.
Starting point is 00:08:36 You're going to have to deal with it in October. It's going to be a disaster. Which is probably why you're finally dealing with it. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yesterday I was asked to speak online to the Clear Channel or I heart radio programmers from radio stations all across the country.
Starting point is 00:08:55 And the last question I was asked, was kind of just a, you know, fun question, I think, which was any predictions on what's coming? And I said, yeah, I don't think Joe Biden's going to be the guy. I don't think he's going to, I don't think he's going to be the guy that they're actually running against Donald Trump. And I know that sounds crazy, but I'm telling you, he was a placeholder.
Starting point is 00:09:24 He was like the unnamed Democrat that everyone was for, because they didn't like anybody. else and they're like yeah now now they're coming up to it a guy who is totally in bed with china totally in bed anything you thought about him with ukraine oh it's a thousand times worse with china i mean nobody's talking about it now but if he's the candidate all of this stuff is going to be everywhere i mean remember he's the guy who said look you know there are one child policy in China. I mean, you know, it's not American,
Starting point is 00:10:02 but I understand it and I think it works for them. I mean, he is just, he is in the pocket of China. And now this, everybody's going to get to the convention and go, come on, guys, we're not serious, right? I mean, listen to him. He's, if he had,
Starting point is 00:10:21 if he wasn't going senile, and I don't say that with glee and I don't, because we're all going to be there. And I don't, I don't find any joy in saying that somebody who is even a guy I completely disagree with all the time, a guy who has served his whole life and had a decent image, if you will, for a politician, is now, let me just put it this way. I've told my children as I've watched them, and I've said this seriously,
Starting point is 00:10:55 if your father ever starts to sound and look like that, you must come and tell me, Dad, it's time. It's time to go. I feel bad for Joe Biden on that. But if you are looking to pick a president of the United States, are you kidding me? You have to believe the Democrats are going to come to the convention and go,
Starting point is 00:11:16 come on, guys, do you remember what? We can't have him. You remember what they were saying about Ronald Reagan in 1984 during the election? Oh, my. reelect this guy. He's senile. And he wasn't even showing any signs yet. I mean, it was only...
Starting point is 00:11:31 No, he was a... He, in 1984, it wasn't until what, 1991 or something. It was late. Yeah, it was 90.91-ish in there somewhere where they finally announced it. Where they finally announced it.
Starting point is 00:11:46 And he still had good years ahead of him. Yeah. You know, he wasn't sounding like, like Joe Biden is now. And I'm not saying that Joe Biden has Alzheimer's, I just think he's going into, you know, his very difficult twilight years where he's not processing. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:07 This guy cannot be president of the United States. And I think even the Democrats will understand that by the time we get to August, which brings me to this. I know Michelle Obama says she doesn't want to run for president. She doesn't want to be president. but if someone offered the obamas a chance to go back to the white house and you don't have to even run michel you'll win if it's it's september you just have to remain standing until november and it's yours and your husband's already done it i i just who in who that actually
Starting point is 00:12:50 believe something and is already in politics, who doesn't say, I'll seriously consider that. I don't have to actually do the campaigning. I just have to walk in and the office is pretty much mine. Pretty tempting. It's very tempting. Terrifying scenario, too. Terrifying scenario. She would absolutely win.
Starting point is 00:13:15 I think she would. You know, she would come in as the favorite. I mean, her polling would look really nice at the beginning of it. She's got like 80% approval right now. Right. If you are, you got a deal with Donald Trump given pressuring you for a month and a half. It would be tough. It's a black woman.
Starting point is 00:13:34 He'd look like a bully. They would, I mean, they would just smear him. And, you know, that may not stick to him. Yeah, what else can they do? But it would be, it would not be an easy thing. And she probably would not go out. and do very much, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And no one would... No one would push her on anything. I mean, like, at least Hillary, you know, like they, she was a bad, really bad, unlikable candidate and she was at least pressed occasionally by the media. She could have, me, Obama would have a, you know, easy... If you think Joe, if you think Joe Biden is untouchable with the press, I mean, Michelle Obama could have inserted her entire body into Tara Reid and they would never ask. That is the worst visual
Starting point is 00:14:22 I never contemplated. Thank you. Yes, I did insert myself. Shoes and all, handbag, too. I had a big handbag. Anyway. The best of the Glenn Beck program. Mr. Bill O'Reilly, who has got a cute little podcast.
Starting point is 00:14:43 I remember when I remember when podcasts were like, oh, and he's got. a podcast. Now, podcasters are disrupting everything, and Bill is part of that. Welcome to the program, Mr. Bill O'Reilly from Bill O'Reilly.com. Thank you, Beck. Thanks for having me back. You bet. You bet. I want to start with a couple of clips, in case you haven't heard of me yet, I'm sure you have, but let me play them for the audience. A couple of clips from Joe Biden about an hour ago on MSNBC addressing Tara Reid. Listen. And please, to our viewers, please excuse the graphic nature of this, but I want to make sure
Starting point is 00:15:25 that there is no question as to what we're talking about. She says in 1993, Mr. Vice President, that you pender against the wall and reached under her clothing and penetrated her with your fingers. Would you please go on the record with the American people? Did you sexually assault Tara Reid. No, it is not true. I'm saying unequivocally. It never, never happened. And it didn't. It never happened.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Okay. So he unequivocally denies it, but then he's pressed with some questions, and maybe it's his growing senility, but he didn't handle it well. I want you to hear, here's
Starting point is 00:16:11 cut two. The first is about your University of Delaware records. Do you agree with the reporting that those records were supposed to be revealed to the public, and then they were resealed for a longer period of time, until after you leave, quote, public life? And if you agree with that, if that's what happened, why did that happen? Look, the fact is that there's a lot of things of speeches I've made, positions I've taken, interviews that I did overseas with people,
Starting point is 00:16:43 All of those things relating to my job. And the idea that they would all be made public in the fact while I was running for a public office, they could be really taken out of context. Their papers are position papers. They are documents that existed. And that when I, for example, when I met with Putin or when I met with whomever. And all of that to be fodder in a campaign at this time, I don't know of anybody who's done anything like that. And so the National Archives is the only place.
Starting point is 00:17:13 there would be anything having to do with personnel records. There are no personnel records in the Biden papers at the university. So personnel records aside, are you certain there was nothing about Tara Reid in those records? And if so, why not approve a search of her name in those records? Approve a search of her name. Yes, and reveal anything that might be related to Tara Reid in the University of Delaware records. there is nothing. They wouldn't, they're not there.
Starting point is 00:17:47 And if they, you know, I don't understand what's the point you're trying to make. Holy cow. Let's just stop there and let's talk to Bill O'Reilly about this. Bill, what are your initial thoughts? Well, let's just do the fact-based thing. Biden doesn't know what the search question was. He doesn't understand what that was. All right?
Starting point is 00:18:13 Correct. I agree. which is not, hang on just a second, which is not helpful, which is not helpful for, I mean, he said, you know, George Bush just saw a scanner at a supermarket, which was not true, but that was used against him. This is somebody not understanding that you can search records for a name. I mean, that's incredible. That woman's name would be in his archives are 1,000. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:41 That would, even if the name or any document was there, it's gone now. Putting any credence into that. The reason he doesn't want the Delaware records made public is because today is the anniversary of Bin Laden's takedown. He was the only member of the Obama cabinet to that Navy SEAL raid. That's why he doesn't want that open. A lot of people have forgotten about that. that. Wow. All right. And you did too, didn't you? Yeah, I did. I did. All right. That's why you have me on here back. That's why no, it's the, all right? It's the kickbacks. The overall denial,
Starting point is 00:19:34 all right, I have no idea, but I can tell you that in the past, Vice President Biden, has convicted many men denying all of them due process. So this is karma. So, Bill, I would imagine that you are taking the same stance that I'm taking, which is the standard that anyone is being judged on is so absolutely insane and really un-American. you just can't try these things and convict people in the court of public opinion. I mean, you're just destroying lives. I can't.
Starting point is 00:20:25 It's been going on. It's been going on almost years. Oh, I know that. I know that. But I think it's important to point out to the left and to, not to the left, because they don't care, to the average Democrat. We're against it when it's Joe Biden. We're against it when it's. Joe Biden. It's not right to try people like this. If you have facts, then bring the facts
Starting point is 00:20:51 forward. But we can't just judge people on he said, she said. Look, yesterday that there was no record of a filing against Joe Biden, that the story changed. She as her doesn't stack up. the same thing was in play with Blasey Ford and Kavanaugh. And Pelosi convicted Kavanaugh. Exactly the same thing. No, no, I disagree with you. I disagree with you. There was much, much less with Kavanaugh, much less.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Much less. Let me get a specific about Pelosi. Pelosi said there was no initial filing of complaint. Okay. There's no record of it. There was no record of any filing a complaint with Kavanaugh. All right. The woman's Tara Reid story has changed.
Starting point is 00:21:58 So did Blasey Ford's story. Yet in Tara Reid's case, she dismisses, Pelosi dismisses Reed, but supported Blasey Ford for exactly the same presentation. Exactly. I can't tell you, I said I'm on bill o'Reilly.com, it used to be I thought Nancy Pelosi was misguided. Now I believe she's evil. She is an evil person. Wow. In a position of tremendous responsibility in this country.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Wow. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. Thomas Massey. Thomas. Massey. Sure. It's not quite as sexy when you say Thomas Massey, but he's with us.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Representative Congressman Thomas Massey from Kentucky. There's a couple of things I want to talk to him about. One, he had the greatest tweet of all time yesterday. I think it was yesterday. If no one goes into Congress to vote on bills, who's writing the bills? I love that question. But at first I want to talk to about the Prime Act. Thomas Massey has been on the food shortage thing early, early, early, and on the meat shortage.
Starting point is 00:23:25 And there is an answer for this. And we should all be looking to this, not just for today, but also in the future. Welcome to the program, Thomas Massey. How are you? I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on, Glenn. You bet. You sound good.
Starting point is 00:23:42 You sound good. You sound like you're either on a super confidential spy phone or. you've you've updated something in your home we've got a com rec system the last time i talked to you you asked if i was at chernoble because the line was so bad that's right you shamed me you shamed me into buying a real system all right good good i'm glad to have you okay so uh congressman talk to me about the prime act first tell people what they should expect in their grocery stores soon well you're going to see shortages and these aren't going to be temporary shortages. You're being assured in the news that the factories that process this meat will open
Starting point is 00:24:24 right back up and there'll be no problems. But here's the real problem. They're aborting piglets right now. They're causing the sows to abort. And so the animals that would be going into the pipeline that would be showing up in your supermarket in a couple months aren't being born. So it's not just a problem at the processor now. The farmers are responding rationally to their concerns that that they'll have to euthanize more hogs by the way there are slaughter ready hogs they're being euthanized shot destroyed and buried the same with same with cattle if it's not happening on a mass scale it it probably will be happening on a mass scale to where they're just the chickens cattle they can't process them and so they have to kill them and
Starting point is 00:25:13 bury them uh and it's this is not good that's right it's already uh It happened a few weeks ago with chickens. It's happening with hogs this week. We've got more leeway, a lot more leeway in the cattle market. By the way, I raise cattle. I have 60 head of cattle. I took two of them to a processing facility yesterday. Roekees.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Sorry. Yeah. And so I took two to the processing facility yesterday. And where I saw something I've never seen before, there were dairy cattle being hauled to the processing facility for beef. Wow. And so because, you know, whenever they take cows out of the dairy production and turn them into beef, that also has a long-term effect. And that, but that's just farmers responding rationally to what they're seeing, which is prices, you know, when you saw the price of oil going negative, we're there with slaughter-ready hogs in certain circumstances. There are these processing facilities that are canceling their contracts claiming act of God, you know, to the farmers.
Starting point is 00:26:23 And so anyways, I saw this coming. I was on your show, like you said, weeks ago talking about this. When I saw the milk being poured out, I said, you know what? They're going to be pouring out animals, too. And it's one thing. Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:26:37 It's one thing to watch milk being poured out because everybody spilled a glass of milk. It's another thing to see a thousand pigs piled up in a pile that are going to be wasted. So, Thomas, this is really something, I mean, this happened in the Great Depression. And the government was actually paying for people to destroy animals. That way they could drive the price up. And it was a nightmare. And it happened in the Soviet Union as well. And it leads to famine in countries that are not as sophisticated as ours.
Starting point is 00:27:10 and it's going to we're going to have famine all around the world all around the world and the United States Brazil and Canada are we provide 60% of the meat for the rest of the world when we when we look at these these slaughterhouses or processing plants the problem is is that you can go down to the processing plant and you can have your cattle uh you know a butchered. The same with me. I do it, I do it locally because I eat my own beef. And so we can do that. But you can't have a local processing plant, which are great, actually provide that meat at the grocery store, which is what we should be doing. It should be local. I mean, every environmentalist should be all over this. It's absolutely right. Keep things local. That's absolutely right. Do you
Starting point is 00:28:10 I realize 80% of our meat supplies processed by four different companies. And one of them is owned by the Chinese and another is owned by Brazil. And so what we've done is we've made our supply line very brittle. We've relied on foreign investment to process the meat that our farmers are growing before it can get to the consumers. Why would we do this? I mean, Brazil is one thing, but China is another. Can we stop selling things to the Chinese? God, help us.
Starting point is 00:28:42 I think we should, and you put your finger on the solution, Glenn. There are still thousands of small mom-and-pop, American-owned. There's not a single foreign investment dime in these little mom-and-pop shops where you take your cattle and I take my cattle. But the USDA has regulated them out of the market because what they require is that you have a full-time employee of the USDA at your facility. You have to give them an office and all this other stuff. Your drains and your floors have to be a certain size. And all these rules, you know, they may be appropriate when you invite the Chinese into your country to process your food for you. But what they've done is they've kept the small guys from being able to produce meat and selling it in the supermarket.
Starting point is 00:29:27 So you're going to have the ironic situation. It's already happening. Where in Iowa, for instance, you have farmers slaughtering hogs. And then at the supermarket, there's a shortage of pork just a few miles away. While there's a processor, a local guy who can do your deer if you shoot a deer or you can do your cattle if you're just selling it to your friends and family and they have ownership in the cow. And so what I've recognized is five years ago, Glenn, and I introduced the bill called the Prime Act. And everything's a ridiculous acronym in Washington, D.C. so I was compelled to come up with an acronym that makes prime, the word prime, and don't laugh.
Starting point is 00:30:14 But it stands for processor revival, intrastate meat exemption. And at the time, I was like, well, who would ever care about reviving the processors? Well, the processors are shutting down. And so I think right now, this week, people understand we need to revive the processing, and it's going to become more acute when you go to the supermarket. It's going to be like Soviet Russia. You're going to go to buy chicken wings and they're going to say, sorry, no chicken wings. Take a pound of chuck roast.
Starting point is 00:30:45 And so we won't have famine here because what will happen before that happens is we'll be importing meat. The poor countries will realize, you know what, we can eat beans and rice and we'll sell our beef to the Americans. Yeah. And that's already starting to happen. We're getting meat from like Africa or somewhere. And we can stop all this nonsense. If we would pass the Prime Act, here's what it does. It's real simple.
Starting point is 00:31:15 It says if you've got a farmer and a processor and a grocery store and a consumer who are all in the same state, as long as we're not crossing state lines with this transaction, as long as everybody is abiding by state laws and state regulations in that transaction, then the USDA can't put a farmer in jail for selling a hamburger to somebody. This will never. You know this as well as I do, Thomas. This turns the Commerce Act back on its head, back on the way that it should be. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:50 In the Great Depression, they turned it upside down. This would turn it right side up. And the federal government will never, never give into that. Never. There are two groups that are opposing this. Obviously, the lobbyists in D.C. that represent the big meat packers. Okay, that's one big group. But also.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Which is a, it's corrupt. The meat industry is absolutely corrupt. And some of these organizations are disguised as farming organizations that are supposed to represent farmers. But they're actually financed by the processors. And I can tell you, they flip the table on the farmer when they get to Washington, D.C., and they act like they're represented. representing the farmer, but it's all about the meat processor. This is why they got rid of country of origin labeling on beef and pork five years ago.
Starting point is 00:32:41 And you had the farmers who were against getting rid of the country of origin labeling. If you're an American farmer, you want your stuff labeled in the supermarket. Right. But if you're a meat processor, you'd be just as happy to get that animal from Mexico, grind it up, put the U.S.D. able, a D-A label on it, and sell it in the supermarket. have people think it was made in USA. Okay, Thomas, let me ask you this question. Are you introducing this bill again?
Starting point is 00:33:12 Yes. In fact, I introduced it last May. I had before this week, I had 24 co-sponsors. Six of them are Democrats. And this week alone have picked up eight co-sponsors because people are calling their congressmen and they're saying, what's your solution? And if you don't have a solution, sponsor the Prime Act. Boy, call your congressman then and tell them to do the Prime Act.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Tell them to do this because this changes so much, so much. If this change actually is passed, this would change a lot of regulation. There could be nothing better that could happen. This is profound change if they would pass this. So call your congressman and tell them to do the Prime Act. And they may not even understand. may not even, you know, they'll pass anything. I mean, they're not even there. But if this is brought up, this would be really good, really good. And I'll tell you why it's good. It can't be
Starting point is 00:34:13 temporary. It can't be temporary. This is not an emergency thing just for this virus. Yeah. This gets the meat processing back in the hands of Americans. And people, the small mom and pops, they will invest. They'll hire more people. They'll expand their production. And instead of everything going across one bridge, we'll have a hundred or a thousand bridges between the farmer and the table. That's the way, I mean, redundancy, redundancy, to get this program on the air, there is, there are three lines that are running on this program right now. One of them is, is being used to bring my voice to you. But two others are redundant. We have an uplink that takes this thing in New York, in Denver and also Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:35:03 You, you, redundancy. If it's something important, you have redundancy. We don't anymore. And it's wrong. And that's the one thing we should take from this.

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