The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Bridget Phetasy & Paul Jehle | 9/4/19

Episode Date: September 4, 2019

The Rubin Report is coming to BlazeTV! How long will Democrats cover for Ilhan Omar, who’s now openly supporting organizations founded by terrorists? Also, her estranged husband may finally let the world know whether she once married her brother. Bridget Phetasy joins Glenn in L.A. to discuss the leftist outrage against anyone who fights against tribalism, including Jason Blum, Dave Chappelle, and herself. The 400th anniversary of the Pilgrims’ landing at Plymouth Rock is coming up, and historian Paul Jehle joins to celebrate the birth of self-government. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the podcast. A big announcement today. We'll tell you about it right off the top. Dave Rubin is coming to the Blaze TV. Make sure you join at BlazeTV.com slash Glenn. He's the promo code Glenn. Save 10 bucks. Just another one of the great additions we have here at the Blaze. Coming up on the show today, we have Pat Greg. I'm going to talk about the Boris Johnson and Brexit situation, which is just a, I don't understand their system at all. Bridget Fetasy joins the show with Glenn. And they talk about how, The left and, you know, some on the right, but a lot on the left are handling the conversation in this country. And it gets messier and messier. And Paul Jaley, who talks about the 400th anniversary of the Pilgrims landing in Mass.

That's, you know, an important story from history, and we'll get the updates on that. And we'll go into the whole situation with neurocapitalism, something a term you're going to start hearing a little bit more about all on today. podcast. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. You know there are a lot of insane things that are going on in the world today. Yesterday I hosted the Rubin Report with

Dave Rubin. Every year he takes a month away from all media, all phones, all technology. And so he comes back and he has absolutely no idea what's happened in the last month. So yesterday I spent two hours with him live on YouTube

and going over all of the stories. I have to just go over some of them because you realize when you just, when you look at the past month how crazy and how fast the world is traveling.

And we're going to tell you about an announcement for the Blaze that Dave made. We made part one of an announcement. Part two is coming closer to the end of the year. But the Dave Rubin Show is going to be now

found on the Blaze. So if you're Blaze subscriber, you now get Dave Rubin, or you will in a few weeks. You'll get the Dave Rubin report, which is fantastic. And Dave is a good friend. And we're glad. No, no, no. We're thrilled to have him a part of the Blaze, and we'll give you a little bit more of that. Coming up in a minute. If you don't have the Blaze yet, I don't know what you're waiting for. You have all of the best shows that are available. It's only getting better. the cost isn't going up. I mean, it is fantastic. We have like 30 different shows now,

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the promo code Glenn and you're going to get a discount. I think it's 10% off now for your first year. 10% off your first year if you subscribe now. BlazTV.com slash Glenn promo code Glenn. All right. Now one of those things that I think is insane, absolutely insane that I can't believe is happening, is this storyline with Elon Omar. The fact that she is still a U.S. Congresswoman is not. nuts. But why is it happening? Because our media, you know, I really didn't like when Donald Trump said the media was the enemy of the people, but I have to tell you, they are the enemy of truth. And if truth is what, you know, the Washington Post says, oh, Republic dies in darkness, well, if that's true, you're killing the Republic because you are adding to the darkness. You're

not enlightening anyone. This is where the silence from the media is doing great damage to our country. They are so unwilling to do their jobs, so complicit in allowing scandal after scandal after scandal involving Elon Omar to go completely ignored. Now consider this. It took internet bloggers to first invest. investigate a story that something weird was going on with all of Omar's marriages. It wasn't until official Minnesota documents were unearthed during her campaign finance

violations that news broke that she had committed tax fraud. Not only that, that she had been married to two different men at the same time. The question was, is one of those guys her brother? there's been a lot of circumstantial evidence to pour through. But the media still will not do their jobs. I don't know why she's so protected from the elites at the Times, the Post, CNN. I don't know why she's so protected in Washington, D.C., unless it is the power she wields with care and the Muslim Brotherhood. Omar has claimed that her newest alleged love interest, Democratic strategist, and fundraiser Tim Minet, isn't someone she's romantically involved with. But last week, Minette's wife filed for divorce stating in-court documents that the reason she's divorcing her husband is because of his affair with Omar.

And yesterday, two sources have come forward, one for the New York Post and one for the Powerline blog, claiming that Omar's current husband, is about to file for divorce due to the affair. The source at Powerline claims that Omar's husband is saying that he knows that Omar did in fact marry her brother. Can you imagine if this guy starts talking? Because he knows where all of the bodies are buried. Now, today I took a glance at all of the mainstream outlets and publications. They're not talking about...

any of this. And it again, it begs the question, why is Omar protected? We can go down the road if you imagine if she was a Republican. They would be all over this story. Just one of the scandals would still be front page coverage. But these aren't the only thing that the media is ignoring when it comes to Omar. The silence is unforgivable. The press is the enemy of truth and information, and it is dangerous. We know now that Omar likes to fundraise for care. The media doesn't seem to give a flying crap about care, the unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation case, but an investigation that uncovered multiple groups here in the United States, the funding of the terror organization known as Hamas, an organization whose sole responsibility

is to kill Jews and destroy the state of Israel. Now, because of CARES involvement with the Holy Land Foundation, the FBI officially broke all ties with dealing with them. But despite this, Elon Omar continues to get a free pass for headlining fundraisers at Posh Care Gala's. Why? Why? They have been helping fund a terrorist organization.

Now, don't worry, because it only gets worse from here. Last week, Elon Omar, from her official Twitter account, made this tweet. Now, remember, this is after her saying, we're going to go to Israel, because we just want to support people there. And we found out that her trip was being planned by a group that was talking about crazy, crazy stuff, about talking about how white shouldn't marry blacks and women are not equal and how gays are an abomination. And of course, Jews were leading the pack on, you know, need to be destroyed.

We find this out. Nobody in the press even mentions that. That's who was arranging her trip. Now, don't worry about it. Now, she quoted, let me quote her. This is what she said on her official Twitter account. She said, quote, Somali government and peacekeeping forces need to protect Hormood and the Somali telecom industry as they make an enormous contribution to the economy and provide a vital service. During my visit to Somalia in 2011, I was surprised by the quick evolution of technology in Somalia.

Okay, sounds good, right? I mean, I don't want the people of Somalia to be hurt. and if there's a company providing services in a war-torn and underdeveloped country, why shouldn't a congresswoman support them? There's nothing wrong with that. Except, oh, I don't know, maybe if that company in question is a terror supporter.

That's exactly what this company is that Omar is so infatuated with. Hormood to telecommunications It was created by and operated by one of the chief financiers of Al Shab. You know what Al-Shabaab is? That's Al-Qaeda. That's Al-Qaeda in Somalia. Now, you don't have to take it from me.

You can take it from that other really, really, really not credible right-wing source of the UN. The UN has confirmed this in their own. own reports. The UN also links Hormood telecommunications to the deadliest terror attack in Somalia. Hundreds were killed. Now, gee, this Somali company, a financing arm of Al-Qaeda, has just been endorsed by a sitting member of the United States Congress who is denying an affair with somebody who is getting a lot of money from a seeming slughey. Lush Fund for working on her campaign. He also was getting paid a lot of money with Keith Ellison.

Keith Ellison, who happened to vacate the seat that Omar took and now is the Attorney General in Minnesota. Keith Ellison, the guy who keeps turning a blind eye to the law enforcement when it comes to Elon Omar. Hmm. So she fundraises for the propaganda arm of Hamas. She publicly calls for the protection of the cash cow for al-Qaeda in Somalia. What is it going to take for the media to pay attention?

How long will the people in New York in Washington protect this woman? How long? Nancy Pelosi? I think a lot of things about you. but I don't think that you actually hate your country. This woman, I believe, does. This woman is actively engaged, in my opinion, with some very, very bad people.

I believe she does want the destruction of America. This is more than just an ethics problem with one of your members. Elon Omar, in my opinion, is dangerous. and either someone is pulling her strings or she's just too stupid to know who and who is not a terrorist. Either way, Elon Omar should not be a congresswoman. And Nancy Pelosi,

you and the rest of the Democrats are going to be eaten by the extremist of your own party. If you're not already on their plate, you're about to have a giant, fork stuck into you because you're done soon. The best of the Glenn Beck program. Hey, it's Glenn, and if you like what you hear on the program, you should check out Pat

Gray Unleashed. His podcast is available wherever you download your favorite podcast. Welcome to the program. Glad you're here. If you are not a subscriber to the Blaze yet, you need to be. You need to be a subscriber to the Blaze at Blaze. Yesterday, I was on with Dave Rubin on the Rubin report and he announced at the very end that he is joining the Blaze. He'll still have the Rubin report. You know, if you're a subscriber of his, you'll still get it the same way, et cetera, et cetera. But you'll also be able to get it at the Blaze and you'll have, I think it's a 24-hour advance to his shows.

And so we're thrilled to have Dave Rubin join us. It is really because we're quite concerned about losing our voices. And we all need to stand together. We all need to be strong as individuals, but also stand together. And one of the people that we talked about yesterday was Bridget Fetasy, who is now. Hi, Bridget. Hi, sorry. You live here.

I do. How do you live here? I never leave my house. I mean, it's crazy here. Yeah, it is. It is. You know what I feel, though, that more and more people, because more people are kind of pushing back against a lot of that extreme insanity. So I've found an underground support system, but it's definitely underground. I mean, it is underground. It is underground, but I will tell you, I sense a change here. I had lunch with Jason Blum yesterday from Blumhouse. If you don't know he is, he did get out. he did whiplash. I mean, he's won Oscars, lots of

accolades. He is a disruptor of the movie industry. Right. He's very, very left, okay? I shouldn't say that. He's very liberal. He's very liberal. He cannot take the political correctness of who you can talk to, who you can't talk to. Yeah, no, I can't do it. The guilt by association.

Yeah, and I think there is a real change to where people who don't necessarily agree with me are, you know, he said, we went out to lunch and he said, can I get a picture with you? And I said, you want a picture with me? He said, yeah, I want to post it. And I said, you're going to get hell for that. And he did. Man, I saw his post and everybody just hated him, just hated him for it. And what's crazy is, I posted it myself. And I didn't get the hate. No. For him.

My side was like, great. I think this is great. It's nuts. No, it's, I mean, I was laughing because I posted that thing on my, I posted our podcast. You were a guest on my podcast. Yeah. And I posted it on my Facebook. And it was blocked.

Yeah. They said, we're blocking this because it violates community standards. What community standards? But I've had sex therapists on my podcast. I know. I've listened to your podcast. You will talk about anything. No, there are no standards.

Right. And I didn't talk about anything. I mean, I was like the most mild podcast. By far. Maybe of all of my guests. It's the difference between like, I don't know, Bob Hope and Dave Chappelle. I mean, it was pretty mild. And I'm the one that gets you in trouble.

Well, it's just funny because it's the, yeah, I was saying that I guarantee it was just somebody who is friends with me or follows me. on Facebook and they were like, I don't feel safe reported. Oh my gosh. But they didn't even listen to it. And so then I started like a war on Facebook because what happened was people have been, and this is why I think sharing the risk is

important and I think it's important that people like your friend who took a picture, people like me who are like, I'm not playing this game. We keep doing that because I don't realize the effect that I've had on people just by observing. So once I got blessed,

and I was like, I'm done with this site. I hate it. I don't like Facebook anyway. It feels like a nursing home compared to Twitter. It's so slow. I'm like, when's bingo night? What's going on, guys? They're like, did you hear this? I'm like, yeah, two weeks ago on Twitter. Catch up. And so I don't really use it that often.

So the algorithm doesn't really like me. You know, you must feed the algorithms. And then yesterday, because there was all this action, suddenly everyone's saw that I had posted this post about having it taken down. Now, I understand more being a new writer, whatever Dave calls it, whatever space I'm in. Yeah. Why there's so much, why there's that feeling of what media bias?

Well, that's, that is, you have reason to believe that these things are true. And it might, it's enforced partially by the, it's enforced obviously by Facebook and Twitter, but it's, it's, they're given the kind of, you know, ability to do that with somebody just being able to report that because it doesn't, it doesn't make them feel safe. Yeah. And they didn't even tell me with standards. I haven't, there's no, there was no way for me to even contest it. So at least Twitter gives you the ability to kind of make an appeal if it takes something

down. So just go to, just go to wherever you get your podcast and look for Bridget Fetace's, uh, uh, walk-ins, welcome. And it's the episode with me and tell me that we violated. Listen to some of her other guests. Listen to the sex therapist. And then tell me that I was the one that was violating community standards. I want to read what somebody said because the comment was unbelievable. And I'll find it in a minute.

But this guy, so I started this war because people who have been observing me, they came to my defense. People that I didn't expect to come to my defense. They were like, somebody said that you are all right. They said, we need to block the all right. I'm like, the all right hates Glenn back. If you knew anything, you'd know they hate. But they don't. They don't.

They don't know anything. And they just are just going whatever it is that the algorithm has taught them. Yeah. It says Bridget Fetty, he is a gateway drug, soft fascism. Perhaps he has reformed to try and revise his toxic legacy. And censoring demagogues doesn't increase the appeal. of the all right. That is a briar-patch argument of the all right. Unfortunately, free speech intolerance. We require intolerance of intolerance. Somebody on Twitter was like, WTF did I just

read? What does that even mean? How do you seriously, how do you live here? I mean, Dave Chappelle, have you seen the Dave Chappelle? Yeah, of course. It's fantastic. It's brilliant. You know what? I watched it And my first thought was it's really, really funny. But it's not anything that would have been called brilliant 15 years ago. Well, I think what Dave, you know, a lot of the things that I've come to understand, the comedians are, I've always been obsessed with comedians because they exist in this intersection of free speech and comedy is fascinating to me. And it's such a particularly American art form. just being able to get on stage and talk

and push back against whatever the establishment and having him go after what is the tenets of woke as far as I see, which is the religion. Yeah. And the left just isn't used to having people of their own. I mean, I think the Babylon B had a headline the other day that said liberals only like when black men, liberals only allow black men to speak

when they say what they want them to say or when they agree with them or something like that. And so he's pushing back instinctively against all of their tenants of woke because it is this every, I see all the comedians. There's another one, Andrew Schultz, and he did a crowdwork special on YouTube,

and he's brilliant, but he was completely politically incorrect in this special. He's a genius. It was all off the top of his head. But you can see the crowd. It was more for me watching the crowd, just laughing at all these racist profile jokes that he was making. And the relief, it was a very diverse crowd.

The relief of the audience of like, thank you. I know. Well, Chappelle, what was funny was Chappelle's, Chappelle, do we have the audio of Chappelle calling out? He does an impression. And he says, I want you to guess who I'm imitating. Go ahead, play it. You want the one where he's talking back,

talking to the audience? Yes, where he's talking to the audience. To the audience. Yes, please. Yes, okay. You have it? Yeah, we, you could have possibly given us a hints up on this. Well, I thought you had it.

I heard it earlier. I was, you know, maybe right there. We do. Okay, well, we'll just. I'll tell you what, I'm just going to take my sock off, and I'll just use a sock puppet, and I'll do Dave Chappelle's voice if you don't have it. Do you have it? No.

So Dave goes. Dave says, oh, I'm freaking out. Even though, if I do anything. We don't need your day. Don't ruin it for the people. Don't ruin it. But he takes on the audience and they're doing the kind of claptor. They think it's funny.

But they also don't realize, no, he's really talking about me. Right. What he's saying is, you know, I'm going to stop you. He does a whole impression and then he says, who am I? And what was interesting to me was that the audience said Trump. Trump because they're so used to every joke being about Trump and he said no dummies I'm talking about you and yeah and they all laughed and clapped but I think they thought that that you didn't include them well everybody thinks that you know oh no but he doesn't mean me specifically he means the royal

you right and he really meant you specifically yeah and he said this makes comedy impossible it makes being, you know, anybody in the limelight impossible. Yeah. And it is so refreshing to hear. So I thought at first just this is this is something that somebody could have said and wouldn't have been groundbreaking or, you know, game changing 15 years ago. Now it is game changing. But if you really think about

what he says, like his abortion joke is brilliant. It's brilliant. Although that was funny too because conservatives were, it's just funny how people hear what they want to hear. Yeah. I don't know what I heard. He's just funny because everybody's like, yeah, I really can get behind his pro-life message.

I'm like, he's not pro, that's not a pro-life message. He's nuanced and making, he's taking the piss out of everybody. Yes. And that's the brilliant thing about Dave is he'll get, he'll dry you in. And you're like, yeah, he's on my side. And then as he, the minute you think he is, he reverses it. And what he was, I think what he was saying on that was, if you think you're right, perhaps you're wrong.

Yeah, I think that's really... So it was a lesson on certitude. Well, he... It used to be, now we have this idea that you know what everybody, where everyone stands and you speak to them. And it's gone are the days where somebody can just make fun of everyone because you either need to be speaking to... So what he did in that special,

messing with everyone's perceptions of themselves and each... other and I do think he got so much of a lot of the the criticism is that he's a reactionary which is what anyone who pushes back against the left gets calls and he is reacting to and they said oh he's defending celebrity but only somebody as big as Dave Chappelle who's essentially uncancellable can fight these fights yeah because you're who's who's gonna fight it some guy coming up correct I fight it because I have nothing to lose. But if I'm in that mid-range, I mean, I think I saw Andy Lassner was talking to Dana Lash.

And Andy's a friend of mine. I'm like, Andy. This is the Ellen producer. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, Andy, you need to be careful. I'm just warning you. Because he's going to get attacked.

Right. And again, I would say that, you know, good for him. I think it's amazing. not afraid. No, he's not. He's not afraid. I mean, he is a guy, I'd like to have him on the show. He's, I mean, he follows several people at the place because he follows people that he doesn't necessarily agree with, but he thinks are smart. Yeah, and he's willing to engage in a dialogue with them. That's good. And he, but I was laughing because I said, to me, he's in that, like, kind of dangerous mid-range where I'm like, they can pick you off. They can't pick you off. They can't

I don't pick Ellen off, but they might try and come for you. That's the same thing, I think, with Jason Blum is he's tired of it. And he's like, if I want to have lunch with somebody, I'm going to have lunch with somebody because I like them and I don't care what you think. Yeah. And he's trying, because you can't cancel Jason Blum. No. And so what are they going to do about it?

And he's trying, I think, he's one of the people that try to set an example of, look, I can get along with a lot of people. and we have to stop this. Right. Or we're all in trouble. Well, it's if you, you know, for all the talk that they had about the bubble and how they didn't see anything, they were in a bubble, they've insulated themselves even more by creating these lines that you now can't cross. Yeah. So now you're saying, we were in a bubble, but you can't talk to anybody outside of the bubble or you're a Nazi. Yeah.

Like, well, how is that making your bubble expanding? You're just creating an even more insulated bubble. And isn't that what the Nazis did? I'm pretty sure you misunderstand what the Nazis were. All right, Bridget Fetasy. You can find her at, what's your website? Bridgettferci.com. Yeah, you can find me at Fetacee.com or check out my new YouTube show weekly dumpster fire on YouTube

where I just go through all the 24-hour outrage cycle and make fun of everyone. I was on with Dave Rubin. He's off for a month. Yeah, yeah. He doesn't do it. So I did his show yesterday. You see it? No, I was working.

Oh, sure, sure. So I just went through the month's worth of news and you want to talk about a dumpster fire. Just look at the last month. It's crazy. I know. All right, Bridget, thank you so much. Thank you for having me. You bet.

This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. Hey, it's Glenn. And if you like what you hear on the program, you should check out Pat Gray Unleashed. His podcast is available where every. you download your favorite podcast. So one of my favorite people in the world, and I have yet to meet, and I am so upset that I'm in Los Angeles while he is in my studio in Dallas. I was supposed to be there today, and I couldn't make it back in time. His name is Paul Jaley. He lives in Plymouth, Massachusetts, where he is the senior pastor of the New Testament Church. He is also the educational

director for the Plymouth Rock Foundation, where they teach the Constitution, leadership, education, ministry, they tie them to biblical principles, and he is one of the guys, he's one of the last men standing in Plymouth. And dare I say it, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, Paul, but you're not exactly popular for teaching the truth in Plymouth anymore. Well, you know that sometimes you're not popular when you teach the truth, but great things are going on in Plymouth. And I've got great news because more and more, not only the entire town. I've been there a long time. So I've worked in and around Plymouth for almost four decades. And so I've been there a long time. I've got great relationships with the town. And we're going to

see the town's activities. And the town has sanctioned our event in 2020, June 28 to 30. The American Pilgrimates 400. And I think that we're seeing a lot of people come together in unity. I think there's a great things that are going to happen next year. Of course, not everybody is on board with the same kind of story. Everybody has their interpretations. But you know what? If we stick to the facts and we share it in a winsome way and we are servants to those that we meet and what we do on the streets. Hey, there can be a lot of things happening. And I know there's been controversy. There was controversy in James Town over the word celebration, but the word commemoration was often shows it's a synonym, a celebration anyway. And so you know the point is we want to

honor the things are great. You're wrecking all my fun. You're wrecking all my fun. You're wrecking all my fun. That's okay because here's the point. We want to see some powerful things come out when people hear the true story. I mean, what a powerful story when you think about it. Here's a remnant of people. It's a church plant. I mean, America was started in New England with a church plant. Here's a group of people that are persecuted in England. They're told by the king they can't leave, and they're told by the king they can't stay. Now, that's a dilemma. And then they escape to Holland for 12 years. They have all kinds of issues in Amsterdam the first year. They move to Leiden. They begin to grow their church. Church grows over 300 in Leiden, Holland. They

are very gracious immigrants to Holland. They work all the jobs that others don't want to. They have to learn a textile business. They have to learn a new language. They're going through all these things, and their church finally grows. And then the truce with Spain is going to end in 1620. Their children are getting older. They just have this vision to be stepping stones to birth the kingdom of God. What people don't realize is the pilgrims were not about themselves. The pilgrims were not about their own church. It wasn't about building their own church, having a name for themselves. As William Bradford said it, they wanted to propagate the advancement of the gospel of the kingdom of Christ into the remote parts of the world. Yay, though they would be stepping stones unto others for the performing of so great a work.

What a powerful passage from William Bradford. When you really read about them, I mean, they were setting out for New Guinea and the first ship left and then turned around because the mass broke. And that's when, if I'm not mistaken, was it Bradford? one of them said, I've heard from God, and we have to go to America. We have to go to, you know, what is now New England. And they didn't want to go. And they lost a lot of the pilgrims who said, I'm not going there, because that was really certain death, people thought back then. Well, also, you know, you have to realize when the two ships left London, the Mayflower was rented, the Speedwell was owned by the pilgrims.

when the Speedwell sprung leaks, and of course they found out later, it was probably over-masked by the captain because he didn't want to go of the speedwell. Then they put into Plymouth Harbor in England and then left on one ship. Yes, about 20 or so stayed behind in Plymouth. There was a great reformed church there that they could have fellowship with. It had put them all up. Imagine these people had to stay there for several weeks while they tried to repair the Speedwell. And then they were heading over. They were going to actually go to where New Amsterdam is in New York was their destination, the northern

parts of Virginia. Of course, Virginia was just about everything back then. And they were going to go there. And then when they got blown off course and found themselves on Cape Cod, now they're outside their charter. They're outside their permission. And they had been so well trained by their pastor. I think this is a message that Americans need to hear. Here's a pastor, John Robinson, who trains their, his own people in self-government. He sends out the key core members of the church, about 75 out of that 300. He sends to the new world. He doesn't even go himself. Now, that's a powerful example that if you're teaching really well, you can send people you've taught and you don't even have to go. And then he ends up over, of course, he stays with the church till he dies five years

later. But the point is that the pilgrims come and they're so well taught on self-government. And this is something Americans need to realize that the unique aspect of the pilgrim story is people could govern their own lives. They could govern themselves. And so civil government was merely to bring order. Civil government was not to control everybody's life, not to be involved in everyone's life. And so here the pilgrims, they draw up the Mayflower Compact. Now, of course, England is not going to look at the Mayflower Compact as licit or legal. They're just going to look down on that. But here you have this powerful story of the Pilgrims writing this Mayflower Compact, which they use as a preamble to their laws for the next few decades. And you recognize

that, and they made it clear, in the name of God, amen, it starts, we whose names are underwritten the subjects of our dread sovereign King James. So it was God to the people and then to the government. That's a power flow you see restated in the Declaration of Independence. You can see the seeds of what would make America great, though it would take time. It would take time for that to blossom. Seeds don't always come up at the same time. So, Paul, what is your opinion on the pilgrims making a covenant with God?

No, they made a covenant with God. In fact, the first covenant, the whole concept of covenant was the spine of the Bible to them. That was the heart of the entire thing. So you made a covenant with God personally, but then you made a covenant with God as a church. That covenant in 1606, where they shook off the yoke of anti-Christian bondage, joined themselves by a covenant of the Lord, as Bradford says, into a church estate. Now, you have to realize how controversial that was at that time. They took the scripture literally, where it said two or three gathered together. There am I, Christ would say, in their midst of them in Matthew 18 and Matthew 20.

when that was talked about, they truly believed that two or three individuals didn't have to have a bishops, didn't have to have a priest, didn't have to have a pastor. Two or three individuals could come into covenant and they could then form a church. This was a bottom-up inside-out operation, which is the kingdom of God, totally opposite from what we see in kingdoms around the world. And they thought that they were completing the crossing of the Red Sea. They thought that they were going to reestablish the new Jerusalem. They knew that the old Jerusalem was there, but there was a new Jerusalem that they were trying to establish. Well, they looked at the typology and the symbolic language of the Bible that, yes, the New Jerusalem was an aspect, the spiritual aspect of the church. And so they would look at it that way.

They did not necessarily have any clue what would happen as a result of what they did. But they recognized that, look, we want to see the king. of God extended. And I think that when individuals get their eyes off of themselves, off of their own church, their own program, and whatnot, they begin to move forward. This is when you can be of greatest service to others, because you're not looking for a fight. You're not looking just to cause a problem. You want to serve people for their benefit. And that's what gave them a bit of a unique aspect. Now, look, I teach it in every event in history. There's some negative because people are involved, and there's some positive because God is involved. So you have the providential view of

God, you have no people are perfect. But boy, I tell you, when they came, that whole concept of covenant is what caused them to write them a Mayflower Compact, because they're extending that concept of covenant from the church to the civil sphere. It also was their concept of trying to make peace with the local natives by doing it by an agreement of some covenant. So yes, covenant permeates all that they do personally in their church. It could be summarized that the pilgrims, no question, believe they were fulfilling God's covenant and would go to the ends of the earth to do Right. George Washington also made a covenant. Abraham Lincoln made a covenant. And I feel as though we don't recognize that anymore. And God keeps his side of the covenant. But if we don't keep our side of the covenant, we lose protection and we lose his favor, if you will. God's never on our side. We have to work to be on his side. Correct. And I think that the Puritans even talked that way too. It's 1630 when Winthrop came, he said,

that we want to make a covenant with God. In fact, he said, look, the eyes of all the world will be upon us. If we truly keep this covenant, this will be a blessing to all nations. But if we don't, we'll become a byword unto the nations. I fear that we are close to that. But when you look at the external, there's no question. We see the nation falling apart. We see us divided more than we've ever been before.

But you know what? It's a trained thing. As a pastor, as someone who studied the Bible for years, I look at it and they say, we also have to keep our vision on that, which is unseen. There are so many good things happening in small pockets around America. There are pastors praying together. I've never seen it like this in 40 years of ministry. There are more unity.

There's more unity in Plymouth, Massachusetts. There are a remnant of Christians that are on their knees, not asking, oh, can we get the recognition we deserve? But, Lord, would you move? Would there be a revival of interest not only in you, God? That's most important. but then in the history of what happened here and not just looking at the negative but looking at the positive

and I think that's the thing we have to recognize I talked to Billy Graham and I think it was the last time I talked to him and I said you know where where is the next Billy Graham where is the next

you know George Washington he said I don't think the Lord is going to work that way he said I think the Lord is working now through people that are nameless that aren't famous, and he said he's growing them all around the world. And only at the end when it really looks impossible, will this break through? And he said, I think he's doing that to make sure everybody knows it's God.

It's not an individual this time. It's God. I think that's absolutely correct. And the event that we're putting on June 28 to 30 called the American Pilgrimage 400, the goal we have in 2020 for that event is for Christians, others to come, and to see that here's a small remnant of individuals who weren't out to make a name for themselves, who would actually be embarrassed to see monuments put up about them. And here they come and look what God could do through a small remnant.

Half of them die the first winter. Everything goes wrong. You couldn't have more that go wrong. Except everything went wrong with everything went right as well. So talking to Paul Jaley, Paul, tell me about what you're doing and what the dates are again. This is June 28 on a Sunday through the 30th of June 2020. Now, one of the things we want to do is portray the faith that brought the pilgrims to America for all there to see. We're doing an actual reenactment of a pilgrim church service on Sunday morning the 28th, right down on the

waterfront. All the songs were singing exactly the way the pilgrims sang the songs. I'm going to preach a sermon right from the notes of John Robinson. And we're going to have a demonstration right on the waterfront there for all to see. That afternoon at Forefather's Monument, and we're going to have a large rally right there where we're going to be rehearsing the faith that brought the pilgrims here to America. And then on Monday, all during the day, Monday and Tuesday, that 29th and 30th, people can sign up for tours, walking tours of Plymouth. They can sign up for seminars from some of the great historians around the country that

are coming in. And then in the Monday night, we're doing a production, a musical, and a production, some reenacting of why the pilgrims actually came from their own words. So people can see what it was. And not only that, I have pastors from around the world that are going to come in and give short two-minute testimonies of the impact of the pilgrim story in Nigeria, in Brazil, in Guatemala, in different areas around the world where people have seen, gee, if a remnant can do this, what could happen today?

I was talking to an international leader, and I said to him, why do you keep coming to America for these international leadership conferences? He said, because we know if America goes down, we go down also. And, you know, that's an interesting perspective that they see the benefit of what's happened and what God did here in America, how it's spread by example. Not that America is the great thing. It's just that when something happens that powerfully, people pick it up. So we're doing that on Monday night.

And then Tuesday, outdoors along the waterfront, we've had tremendous cooperation from the historical societies. we're going to reenact the pilgrim actually landing right near the rock. And we're going to do that with various historic societies. We're going to have small addresses. We're going to show people that indeed, with a mini little parade, of course, we do the big Thanksgiving parade each year. But we're going to really highlight the fact that, listen, this was not just an event, a blip on the radar screen.

This, though it was not noticed by many, they are footnotes in history. The pilgrims rarely even make it into history books at all. the Puritans, the bigger ones, and of course, some of the things that took place later on, second and third generation, the horrific things that took place are given most of the, let's say, the print in books today. But we want to say, look, there were some good things that happened. There are people that were really sacrificed, both sides, both native and English. And we want to accentuate those things. Why not hand down to our children and our grandchildren the good things that did take place?

And to say, look, there's hope for the future. we can learn and we can get along with people we differ with. We don't have to be calling each other's names just because we differ on something. We want to work for not only a great harmony and unity in the town of Plymouth, and that's happening. And it's exciting to see. We're working with the Plymouth 400. We're working with the other organizations there. And I'll tell you, it is a powerful time.

And we're going to see, we're praying that we were going to see some powerful things and people are going to say, hey, you know what? Americans can work together. You know what? people can do it and just like those pilgrims who everything went wrong with them that turned out right why not get that kind of an area I know someone who said to me well gee everything's all about war and battles today I said yes and the pilgrims wrote this we were armed with faith and patience against the grim and grisly face of poverty well you know what

we can be armed that way again and overcome these obstacles and see great things so I'm excited about what's happening and at the website how do people go how do people find out they go right to our website, p-L-Y-M-R-O-C-K-org, plimrock.org, and they're going to find on the website it's going to be populated very soon. They're going to be able to reserve tickets to the various events, the tours, the seminars, and find out what's going on in Plymouth, Massachusetts. After all, it's America's hometown. It's where self-government was born, and it's where those feet of those pilgrims,

that tiny church as a remnant stepped on that rock, and the rest is history. So much. Thank you so much, Paul. Paul Jaley, for the 400th anniversary of the Pilgrim Landing in Massachusetts. It's plimrock.org to find out more. Thanks, Paul. The Blaze Radio Network on demand.