The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program | Guests: Bruce Feiler & Maximo Alvarez | 7/17/20

Episode Date: July 17, 2020

Glenn has few new “positive” predictions for the future of America and whether ending up in Nazi gulags or witnessing Jesus coming back is more likely. Bruce Feiler, author of “Life Is in the Transitions,” joins to discuss how we all can get through “lifequakes” and come out better in the end. Cuban immigrant Maximo Alvarez warns that the rise of Marxism in America is playing out exactly as it did for Fidel Castro. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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can't apply. Welcome to the podcast. Today, Glenn has a couple of ideas about how society could go from here. They're not necessarily all positive, which is going to surprise you. I know. But he gives these three scenarios, lays them out. They're pretty interesting. And, you know, there's a lot here. So you need to dive into that one. It's pretty interesting and hopefully won't ruin your weekend entirely. Bruce Filer joins us. You know, there's been a lot of times.

here that we've had difficult situations to deal with over the past few months. He's got a great book about changing the way we look at those negative events. It's called Life is in the Transitions, Mastering Change at Any Age. It's a pretty helpful thing to see and hear about right now. And Maximo Alvarez is a guy who's a Cuban immigrant and is warning that, look, we've seen this before. We do not want to go down this road. He's in America now. He was just with the president,

and he is trying to outline and warn what's coming up. And we get into a little bit of white fragility talk. Are we fragile as white people? If you happen to be a white person, you might be incredibly fragile. We'll tell you how fragile you are. I'm going to do that on Stu Does America tonight. Stu does white fragility.

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Wherever you get your podcast, five stars, the appropriate amount of stars. Here's the podcast. You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck program. Yesterday, by the way, welcome to my good friend Pat Gray, who has always been one of my trusted counselors, and as is Stubriger. His real name is Steve, but nobody calls him that

because he didn't speak up. You see what happens when you don't speak up? Yeah, this happens to you. Me, I happen. Yeah, you turn in to Sussain. dude. All right. So as I see this, there are three options on how this, on how this ends.

One, because I've game, I have war game this, you guys know this, I have wargamed this for almost 20 years now. And, you know, I've said, we're going to miss the exits, we're going to miss the exits, and then there you are, bridge is out. And it kind of feels that way, but there is one more exit. There is one more exit, and here it is. that we find a group of Americans that are so Martin Luther Kingish that they just, they're willing to stand peacefully through anything.

I mean, take a crowbar to the head, and they're willing to, we can get them all together, and we can find a couple of leaders like a Martin Luther King or a Gandhi, and we can all rally around these people, and put together a well-coordinated and well-financed movement. You know, because Martin Luther King was also very well-financed. And then we can, you know, we can stand against Black Lives Matter, which is this just rag-tag band of people that currently have $1.6 billion at their disposal.

So we can do that. And we can march right into the gates of hell, and everybody, the press will be there, and they will be witness to good versus evil. And it will be on the screen side by side. And people will go, I like those people more than those people. And that's, that's, that's the way to change things. And that we, we all of a sudden stop being the people that Americans have seemed to turn in, to and we actually start taking our God and our covenant seriously.

And we kind of go back to not being the whore of the earth. I just going to speak up here and say that one sounds hard. It sounds like a lot of work. Yeah. And that one sounds hard. I don't think that one's going to happen. It would be good, though, wouldn't it? That would great.

Like, if we were the people of the 1960s, you know, where we still had churches and, you know, people were speaking up at the pulpit and, you know, we had the Constitution in, you know, in common and a love for our country in common. That one could have happened. That one would be nice. And I still think we try that one. There's a only thing that's going to happen. But I still think we try that one. Now, the other one is we just kind of keep doing what we're doing.

And then the Marxist and the deep state take over. And, uh, and we lose. the country, you know, probably in the next four years. And America, as we know it, is over. And then the singularity comes, and we're already slaves, but some people get little chips. And so they become super, super powerful and super, super smart. And there's no way to compete with them.

So our children and our grandchildren are forever slaves to a really dark system. Okay. Now, I think that's a possibility too, right? That's a bad one. You know, we become worse than the Nazis because of our technology. And we just end all freedom on the end. And America just becomes this dark, dark place. And all man's freedom is lost and possibly forever.

That's it, though. There's nothing worse than that that could happen. happen. No, I think that's... I mean, you give me some time, but I think that's... I think that's the dark end of the scenarios. Okay. Don't you think?

So, yeah, so I have the title of the first one as big group of MLKs randomly emerge. And then the second one, slaves to... Well, we have to find them. Right. Well, yeah, sure. And then slaves to a Nazi system, but darker as the second possibility. Right. Okay.

All right. Now, let me ask you. Let me ask you, which one do you think has a better chance out of those scenarios of happening? Well, I thought there was a third scenario. So let's, well, there is. But I'm just saying out of those two scenarios, Pat, which one do you think? Number two. Number two.

No doubt in my mind. Right. Right. It's just no doubt in my mind. I mean, it would be really nice. But this thing is so well coordinated and so. freaking evil. Yeah.

And so well financed that there's no way out, you know? I hate to be a pessimist. And I'm not. I actually believe in the first one. No, I actually, I want to do the first one. But I think we all, somewhere inside, we all go, yeah, that number two scenario, that could happen, you know? If I would have said this to you, if I would have said this to you six years ago, I wouldn't

have said it because it wouldn't have seemed possible, right? Six years ago, I say, and we turn into a dark Nazi state, I think we all go, that's not going to happen. Today, I think everybody within the sound of my voice, even if they say that's not going to happen, they're like, but there's maybe a possibility. Well, yeah, because a lot of it has already happened. You could transform the rest of it by this afternoon. Right. It's only going to get faster from here, right? I think we're all clear.

Okay. All right. Now, I thought of this third scenario yesterday. And I thought, wait a minute. Hold it just a second. This one, I think, has a better chance of working and happening. So let me play out the third scenario. Here.

This is going to be fun. Yeah, no, this is a good one. This is a good one. And I think there's a real chance this one happens. At least this is the one that we should hope for. You know, we should be working towards, I think. So here's the scenario. We all start working on the Martin Luther King thing,

but someplace inside of us, we all know that ain't going to happen. But we actually try to do it. And in the course of doing that, a small number of us really change. You know, a small number. It's not going to be a lot of people because, you know, Christians and all of that nonsense is going to be just more and more laughed at as the time goes on. So it's not going to be Christians and all of that nonsense. Did you care to clarify that one a little bit?

Yeah, it's all going to be, yeah, no, it's all going to be, you know, deemed hooey soon by scientists and those in the know. And so it's not going to be popular and it's not necessarily going to be fun, but we'll change and it'll be really good. It'll be really good. And then the, you know, the country is overthrown by the, you know, dark forces of Marxism and death and evil. And we lose the country as we know it by, let's say, 2024. Okay. And then there's like seven years of tribulation. But then Jesus comes.

Okay. Okay. All right. Okay. All right. So then Jesus comes. and everything is great again. And when you look at it that way, you're like, wait a minute.

Seven years and then just the next four, and then those really crappy seven years, I can do that. That's not so bad. You know what I mean? It's going to be really crappy. And the dark Nazi stuff is going to happen to the United States. But then Jesus comes. Now, here's the beauty of this.

Because just a few of us are willing to live. look at this and go, huh, that's a possibility. Or even those who are like, I don't think that's going to happen, but I'd rather hope for that than just the gulog with the Borg, you know, in an SS uniform. Because here's the thing. If we actually start to look at it that way, then even if Jesus doesn't come, we're the happy ones in the concentration camp or the gulag. I think that's a win. So your optimistic scenario is essentially we have the nice room of the concentration camp. Oh, no, we have the worst room in the concentration camp, but we're happy.

We're happy. I shouldn't have overstated the positivity. Because if we just endure it for seven years, we know that the second coming of Jesus will be here, and then everything's fine. Yeah, but let's say that you're one of those who are like, but well, wait a minute. Let's just say that you're one of those that are like, oh, I'm not, I don't think I want to put all my eggs in the Jesus's coming back basket. Okay, because they've been doing that for a long time. That's good in this scenario, because if the second scenario is what really is going to happen,

again we've changed and we're happy in the gulog. Okay. All right. So to summarize here, if I could, we have scenario one, which is a big group of MLKs are discovered in an archaeological dig of some sort. Yes. Okay. Freezers. Maybe Walt Disney.

Maybe we defrost him. Okay. Maybe he's the guy. I don't know. Number two, we're slaves to a Nazi system. darker, possibly run by animated skeletons. I added that last part because it just seemed like it worked.

Well, animated would not be accurate, but audio animatronic, maybe, yes. Well, I'm thinking they're meaning not animated as in drawn, but just alive and moving around. This is not, they're not like... Well, that's a little supernatural for me. I'd rather stick to science. Again, we're figuring this out together.

So, and then three... Robot skeletons. Yeah, robot skeletons. And three is Jesus shows up in like 15 years, but the Nazi stuff still happens anyway. So your optimistic scenario is just the Nazi stuff happens anyway. I mean, the first ones, I guess, the most optimistic, but you've pretty much ruled that out. But Jesus comes. But Jesus comes. So we just have to be, show some endurance, essentially. Show some buck up, man. Pull yourself up by the bootstraps. Just be good to each other.

Live, you know, hey, treat others like you want to be treated. You know, that kind of stuff. We could do that for seven years. We can fake our way through that. And then Jesus comes. But if he doesn't come, because we faked it, we actually start to live that way. And when he doesn't show up, sure, some of us are disappointed. Others are like,

no, but let's sing a song, you know, on the way to the gallows. And we're like, yeah, that would be really cool. And we're happy about it.

You know, I saw the same segment on Fox and Friends this morning. They went through the three. Is somebody on to this theory already? Already. Oh, man. So you're a little late.

Brian Kilmead was all over this one this morning. so is CNN. Really? Same deal. Did they do skeletons, though? Let me tell you something. All of it. Let me tell you something.

I think they're all going to be, we're just early on this. I think they're all going to be talking about this soon. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. The book is life is in the transitions. And this is something I've talked about for a long time. We all have pivot points. And it's when we choose. to reach up and pick ourselves back up at usually the worst point in our life, the world

changes and for the better. Well, I have to say, Glenn, you were in my mind a lot as I was working on this project because not only if you had a lot of pivot points and transitions in your life, but you've also been incredibly open as a public figure in talking about them and sort of helping to model the idea that the old kind of fantasy linear life that we were told where you'd have, you know, low-level job, mid-level job, high-level job, right? You would date and you'd get married. Right.

You go to the, like that that's gone. And so, you know, you mentioned when we met, and you were exactly right, it was more than probably a dozen years ago at this point. I was working on America's profit at that time. And, you know, I was having a kind of linear uphill life, and I just got to walloped by life, right? I had the cancer. I almost went bankrupt.

And as you know, my book, Life is in the transitions that we're talking about now, begins with my dad who has Parkinson's, never depressed a minute in his life and take his own life, actually multiple times in the course of a month. And so I start this kind of storytelling project with my dad, right, send him a question every Monday morning about his life. Tell me about the house you grew up with the toys, the, you know, how'd you become an Eagle Scout? How did you join the Navy? How did you meet Mom?

And this man who'd never written anything longer than a memo backs into writing an autobiography. And I got incredibly interested, like, how we have to rewrite and rethink our life story. And when I started talking about this, everybody had a story. And I thought, you know what, there's not really a book out there that captures how we get through these lifequakes, I call them. These got massive changes that sort of descend upon us. So I did what I do. I went on this journey, crisscrossed the country. I got hundreds of life stories of Americans, all 50 states, like every state in this country,

people who lost homes, lost limbs, changed careers. I have military veterans who lost limbs in the Middle East. I have to get sober, people who got out of bad, matter. Incredible stories of recovery and redemption. And I then spent a year with a team of 12 people looking through trying to find, manage these lifequakes, and then, oh, my gosh, lo and behold, this book comes out at a moment. moment when the entire planet is going through a life quake at the same time, which is why this book out this week is just sort of...

It's interesting, Bruce, because I've been sad. In fact, I just said it last hour. We can look at what's happening to us right now and take it in a negative way and be angry and let it destroy us and say that it is destroyed us. Or we can say it's going to put my feet on a different pattern. and I don't know what it is yet, but it's going to be good, and search for the meaning out of suffering and everything else. And when we honestly do that with an optimistic spirit and a trusting spirit,

it changes everything, everything. They were going into the weekend and we need a bit of positivity. And so here's what you've discovered is that the lifequake itself, like the massive change that comes over us, it can be positive. having children is often a lifequake starting a new venture is a lifequick. I have a story in my book about a truck driver who became a male nurse. People can make these changes and they are positive, constructive, or they can be negative, right? You can have a diagnosis, you can lose your job, you can lose a loved one.

But the transition that comes out of the lifequake, that must be voluntary. You have to lean in to decide to go through the roadmap I'm going to lay out for you and take the steps to turn that situation, that negativity into positivity. That's a choice. And in some ways, that's where we can start right now. You have to choose to go through the transition. What is it? Quit my job to take care of my children or my grandchildren.

Am I doing something meaningful? Do I have a medical problem? The choice to help to a better place. So this is also, it's, I mean, it's deeply personal, but it is the answer to almost all of the strife that we're feeling right now, not just in COVID, not just in the struggle, but also in the apparent non-forgiveness of sins of the past. If you choose to take the things that have happened in your life and choose to look, look at Nelson Mandela and choose and say, okay, those things happen. Now what do I do?

Because I can't change everybody else. What do I do? is so freeing and so empowering, and it's the message that I think much of America is missing right now. Well, this is why I think, you know, and I wrote it in the Wall Street Journal, this week, and in the New York Times today, and the reason this book is sitting in the top 20 of Amazon right now is because learning to master life transitions turns out to be the most urgent life skill people have right now. People need right now, and we haven't really talked about transitions. It's not really been in favor, the last kind of big book on this was 50 years ago.

And I sort of been discovering that we have many, life comes out of much faster now. I mean, the good news is we have freedom. We can live where we want to live and believe what we want to believe, right? And be in the relationship we want to be in and have the job we want to have. But that's a greater burden on us to kind of make that choice. And so what happens is when you go into the life transition, right? You feel one of two things, either like chaotic and out of control.

Like, I got to do this. I got to do that. Or I know what you definitely feel, which is I'm the only one going through this. But when you said, as I did, two, three, four times across from people, you know, I have a Army sergeant who had his face blown off in the Taliban on the brink of suicide, who's painting and built himself, you know, a new, I have a CIA agent who, a two-time cancer survivor who climbed incredible stories of, but when you get into this, it turns out, there's kind of a structure. Like, they involve different phases. They're saying goodbye,

what I call the long goodbye. You say goodbye. Messy middle. Think of the scriptural stories. where you have to kind of go into the wilderness, where you shed certain habits and create new ones. And then you finally build this new you, and then you have to kind of unveil that to the steps you can take. And as you know, the second half of life is in the transitions has this toolkit for things that you can do. And my wife's, I'm chuckling when you're your question, because my wife was like, don't tell me what you think, Bruce, you know, bring me what other people are doing. And that's what this book is. You're going to find people just like you who've been through this.

and you're going to find things that they did that will help you almost exactly where you are right now. One of the most amazing things in my journey is, and the most clear example of it was, or maybe it was just the first example of it, was I was just asking the bigger questions of life. And I read, I began to read Plato for my own search, not because somebody assigned it to me. And I realized, they've been asking these questions from the beginning of time. And you're not alone. You, you, these problems and crosses and solutions have been experienced since the beginning of mankind. And when we can get out of ourselves and look to others currently and to others who have accomplished something,

in the past, life just becomes so much easier and so much more pleasant because you start to notice the people around you who are kind of in the same place and you start talking, you're like, right? I thought it was just me, right? And it's really healthy. All right, we're going to continue with Bruce Filer here in just a second. The name of the book is Life is in the Transitions. It's available everywhere.

Transitions Mastering Change at any age. Bruce Filer is his name. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. Maximo Alvarez, president of the Sunshine Gasoline Distributors. He's a Cuban immigrant, and he has been speaking out, and I thought you needed to hear his voice. He's a Cuban immigrant that is warning now that the American dream is under threat. He came here to America when he was 13, and he saw the revolution in Cuba. Maximo, welcome to the program.

Thank you, Glenn, and it's an honor. I've always admired your way of thinking, admire you for being one of the few people in the press who really tell our country what is going on, objectively as possible, because everybody's afraid to tell the truth, I guess, in the name of being politically correct, everybody's become literally a hypocrite.

Yeah. Maximo, I'm so glad to have you on because I've, one of the things, I've always had a big fan base of immigrants, especially the immigrants that come from communist countries in the Eastern Bloc or Cuba. And I think they have the most important voice, and it's not being highlighted. And I got to believe that even though you were young, you remember enough of what was happening over in Cuba, that it must be a little terrifying for people who came here and have seen communism and Marxism and how it overthrows countries. It must be a frightening deja vu. Glenn, it really goes further than that. I happened to have learned from mom and dad who had to migrate from Spain to Cuba at the turn of the century, running away from communism.

So I knew firsthand how difficult and how painful it was for families who were being destroyed for no reason. Families who had nothing to do with politics, families who had nothing to do with government. It was just hardworking families. So I grew up in that environment and then shoot enough. By the time I'm 11 years old, the same thing happens in Cuba. And I remember my dad trying to convince my mom while listening to Castro's words. Well, he was up in the mountains. He used to broadcast.

radio at night, you know, shortwave radio. And I remember my dad, and I mentioned this when the president was here. My dad used to tell my mother how he thought that SOB was a communist. And my mother used to even argue with him and said, how can you say that? You know, he was raised by the Jesuits. He's a Roman Catholic, his entire family. as a matter of fact, the very Catholic church helped save his life. The very Catholic church pretty much helped finance his revolution.

And then I happened to be part of the Catholic church. My education was all Catholic. And then all of a sudden my school was taken over. And all of a sudden, the Marys brothers were hiding because they were being persecuted. So they had to go and hide in embassies or leave the country because their life was threatened. This is the very people that help the Castro regime take over. And you know what is really sad? The media, Fidel Castro never took over Batista's regime.

Batista left. Batista left December 31st, 1958, a midnight after he celebrated New Year's Eve. And he left because he lost control of the country. And guess what? Guess who actually was one of the biggest factors that Batista lives? The media. They were destroying Batista. And then a few months later, what happened to the media?

What happened to the Diario de la Marina, the Diario del Mundo? This is the equivalent of the New York Times and the Washington Post. What happened to say, Meku, that's the equivalent of CNN. There's no free press. And what is amazing is these people in the press do not understand that there will be the first ones out of here. But when they find out what they did is too late. Way too late. So I had the chance to speak in the panel when President Trump was here.

And the judges told me, told you a story. And I'm humbled to tell you, it's a moment. amazing how my little story has impacted so many people because I'm telling you, Glenn. My story is just one of many, many, many, many millions of people running away from coming from coming from the land of the three. And it's amazing. It's amazing that we don't appreciate that. And I remember, and I said it in my speech and I'll tell you, and this is something that will resonate with me until I,

die how my father came from Spain to Cuba at the age of 18 never to go back work his ass off and when he's about to enjoy the food and he's about to enjoy the food race labor he saw my brother graduate he had to get to send him because he was in that age that he was going to be indoctrinated and soon after that he had to send me out because they had taken over the schools and I remember when he finally gets over here. And he tells us, this is a man of a six-grade education.

This is not a philosopher. He didn't go to Harvard. He didn't go to Yale. But a very wise man who used to tell us how lucky he was because he was able to go from Spain to Cuba and to Cuba to America. And he said,

don't lose this place because he's not going to be as lucky. This is what I'm trying to warn. And I'm amazed that that little story, which is only one of many millions of stories has been so positive, has gone viral, and I'm humble to know that I'm pretty sure it has helped quite a few people understand what the reality is. So, Maxmel, first of all, thank you for sharing that, especially about your dad. That's got to be a painful memory.

You said that your mom looked at Castro and said, how dare you say he's a communist? So it's the same, is it the same thing every time where people are just duped and they believe that this time it is different? And these aren't the monsters that rule at night? Glenn, this is the same story. It doesn't change. We need to explain to people that the communist philosophy is based on the fact that the ends justify the means. The end justified the means. On our side, we have the Judeo-Christian values. We cannot steal, we cannot lie, we cannot kill.

We got to honor mom and dad. We've got to honor God. We've got to respect people. And on top of that, we have to forgive our enemy. Now, on the other side, they will do whatever is necessary to accomplish their objective. If they have to tell you they're Catholics or they have to tell you they belong to certain religion, they will.

If they have to kill you, they will. They have. Just look at history. Look exactly what happened in Cuba. No one would have ever imagined that Fidel Castro was a communist. No one. If you look at the, just go on the library, any of the books, any of the history books, where they have his pictures coming down from the mountains.

Every rebel, everyone had a rosary hanging from their necks. And he always claimed that he was, as I said, Catholic apostolic with Roman, that's Roman Catholic. He was educated by the Jesuits. And it was not until two years after he had taken over power that he declared that he's a Marxist. And if you look at, and if you have read the book by Saul Alinsky, if you see what is happening, that's exactly what is happening in every of this country. That's what happening in our backyard today. That's what happened in Cuba.

That's what happened in Venezuela. That's what happened in Nicaragua. Make sure that everybody... Go ahead. What is everybody... What are the Cuban refugees? What are the Cuban families feeling? And how can they help?

Is there any movement in those families to come together and to form a block and speak out? Because I think they could be a real powerful force. Here's the problem, Glenn. I don't know. I'm not an expert in the matter. Because I don't have the numbers of the statistics. But if you look at the wave of Cubans who come over right after Castro take over, we came here

with a shirt we weren't on our back as a matter of fact I'm an original member of the Peter Pan group those of the kids who came without parents over $14,000

of us if you look at and I know this for a fact as a group of 14,000 we have done very very well but what happened is after that you go through the years

Fidel Castro has more people infiltrated in our community than you can even imagine. Fidel Castro has a very, very big sophisticated intelligence machine. Those people killing young people in Venezuela are not Venezuelan students. They're Cubans. Those people killing Nicaraguan where their students were demonstrated. They were not Nicaragans. They were Cubans.

Because Fidel Castro exported terrorism, the minute that he took care, over Cuba. I remember the word terrorism wasn't used. It used to be Guerrida de guerrillas. That was guerrilla warfare. One person can create enough fear that would destroy the economy. That means, for example, you cannot go to a theater, you cannot go to a restaurant, because all of a sudden a bomb would explode. And it gets so far out of hand that people are afraid to go out. The government says,

you're not protected after 6 o'clock in the evening, so better stay home, and what happens to our economy? Capitalism and fear are not synonyms. You cannot be a capitalistic economy with fear. With fear. And this is what is. That's why it's called terrorism.

Look what is happening today. And our own governors, mayors, this is amazing. I see the guy in New York, painting the street. And all we do is use people to create dissensions, to create hatred. And that's what they do. And that mayor, right.

And that mayor happens to be a guy who loves Castro's Cuba. I've got to run, but I want to ask you one more question. Do you worry about a boycott from the left like they did to the Goya Foods CEO for his support of Trump? Glenn, let me tell you, I have done a lot better than I expected to do. If I die or I lose everything for this country, it would be a problem. So, no, I have no fear. I'm telling you what they have done to Goya is the best thing because I'm telling you, is now going to double the business because they have provided them.

with great free publicity because Goya Foods is a very great product. The owners of that company have been very, very generous for many, many years, and people who know that will help them and endorse them much more than ever before. So no. Maximo Alvarez, don't ever give up yourself. Thank you so much. I'm sorry to cut this off, but I've got a network break. Maxmo, thank you.

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