The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Carol Roth & Cheyenne Grace | 10/9/25

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

Did President Trump just pull off the impossible? Glenn and Stu discuss Trump’s success in bringing peace to the Middle East, as both Israel and Hamas have agreed to sign on to a peace deal that would initiate an immediate ceasefire and finally release hostages from October 7. “You Will Own Nothing” author Carol Roth joins to expose the concerning reason the price of gold is skyrocketing. Glenn speaks with his daughter, Cheyenne Grace, to promote her upcoming Christmas film, “The Best Thing About Christmas.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Yeah, I know. I mean, you could go away tomorrow, but let's have faith. Can't go away tomorrow. The Blue Jays beat the Yankees. It's over. That series is over. No, we were talking about the peace in the Middle East. wait, what happened? No, that's fantastic. What an incredible development.

And who would have ever thought that you would have Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, and kind of Jordan, all in saying we're with the United States and Israel, we want peace, here's how we get there, and Hamas does it. These are all things that could not have possibly existed very recently. No, and you know why? I am convinced. I mean, I've talked to Donald Trump about so many different things, but the best example of this is he will not allow me to ask him a question about assassination in the future. Okay? I've asked him, are you concerned about, I don't want to talk about it.

Don't talk about it. Don't talk about it. He calls into existence. He knows the power of thought. He knows the power of language, and he is, he never will call something into existence like that. You can believe him or not believe him, but he will not ever do that. He only tries to think positively about things. He's called this into existence.

Where everybody else said, you know, State Department says, can't be done, can't be done. Nobody wants to do this. That's too big of a. He doesn't care. He just walks in and he's like, hey, everybody. what do you say we change the game entirely? What is it going to take for all of you to recognize Israel? Israel, what is it going to take for you to stop?

And Gaza, what is it going to take for you to return the hostages? Let's do that deal. I mean, it's just this big thinking where he doesn't say can't be done. He never says can't be done. And that's why he moves mountains. it's just the power of positive thinking. It's the power of your thoughts are creative. So be careful.

Choose your thoughts and change the world. And that's why he's able to cross these, you know, these lines that people just don't think things are possible. Even if, you know, we don't know how this is going to turn out. No, no. To be clear, there's a million things that can go wrong with this piece deal. Scriptures tell us, not going to last. Right.

You know what I mean? It's, you know, we don't know where this thing is. ends. But just the attempt, like, it's the, I would say, argued the same thing with Ukraine and Russia, right? Like, he, he went in there with this idea of, I'm going to solve this, and that one has not been solved. Right. But this is how he approaches these things. Right. And it's not that, it's not that he can control other people, because he can't. He can't control how Putin looks at it, etc., etc. But he doesn't say no to big ideas. Yeah, right. That's, you know, and that's, allows him to approach those ideas. Everybody tries to nibble at the edges on everything.

on everything. Look at how this guy has moved mountains. It's because he comes in and he's like, yeah, we're not doing it that way anymore. Here's what we're going to do. You know, look at the difference in the State Department. Look at the difference in Marco Rubio. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Marco Rubio is like one of the best state department officials I've ever seen. Secretary of State? Yeah. Have you ever, have you seen a better secretary? Secretary of State than him? Well, Hillary. You got to throw that

her into the conversation. It's because they're just saying what's true. They're very clear. They don't compromise. I mean, they will compromise but not on the principles. If these hostages are not returned on Monday or Tuesday, it'll be over. He's not

going to go, okay, well, let's give you some more money. Let's do that. No. We're not flying cash onto a tarmac. Is this his best issue of his entire presidency going back to the first term. Historically speaking for sure. Because I think, you know, I would, my argument would be the border probably, but, and I do

think this second term, the border has been an overwhelming unquestioned success. But like, I think the basis for what happened here was set in the first Trump term. It was. It was. This is really something that has extended over both terms. didn't get enough credit for it in the first term. We argued that constantly. No.

And as soon as they came in, it was all reversed. People want war there. Yeah. He doesn't. He doesn't want war. You're right. And people accused him of that, of course. They always say, you know, war monger and all these other things.

I think he really does believe that to his core. And the only reason I think this stuff might be possible, and again, with all, all disclaimers aside for a moment here, because we do. do know this is a very difficult road ahead on this. But the relationship... This is not, hang on just a difficult road. This is the moonshot of peace deals. Yeah, it's the one that everyone mocks.

How many times were we burning up on the launch pad? I mean, this is the moonshot hard. Yeah, and that's a... We've already started to see Hamas whine about stuff. Who God only knows where this ends. Yep. But the basis for this even to be possible was set up in his first turn. with the improvement of relationships

between these other Arab countries in the region and Israel. The fact that, I mean, you think, people are like, oh, what's Israel even giving up here? They are allowing, if this goes through, a bunch of these countries that for the past half century have attacked them every three years. Oh, don't, don't, don't.

It's 80 years. Thank you, thank you. It's just since they're founding. Just since their founding, have been attacked by a lot of these countries over and over again. and oftentimes in coalition with each other, they're allowing them to come in and,

if this goes down the road, oversee part of their own country. Yeah. Right? They are giving up a massive thing here. And they only do that if they actually had some trust with these nations and, of course, trust with the United States to help enforce it. So here's what, here's Trump's genius. You're exactly right.

This was planted with the other countries last time with the Abraham Accords. They gain trust. But the Palestinians didn't have any trust. Because remember, we're the great Satan, you know, little Satan, blah, blah, blah. He has gotten the rest of the countries in the Middle East to say, no, they're not the little Satan. They have a right to exist.

We can coexist with them, blah, blah, blah. That's never been done. Okay, never been done. He did that last time. Remember when Qatar was attacked by Israel, okay? Just recently. Yeah. And

Donald Trump and everybody was like, wait, what are you doing? Donald Trump came out and read Benjamin Netanyahu the riot act and said, apologize. Okay? And Benjamin Netanyahu did. Okay? That's the key on this one.

He, you don't, you can't take Donald Trump at the moment alone. You have to look at his strategy. He is playing three-dimensional chess. When he said that, he knew that was the key. They're all saying now, that was the key. Because when he did that with Qatar and defended Qatar and said, hey, no, play nice. Everybody play nice. And Benjamin Netanyahu did apologize that separated the United States from Israel as, you know, just a little, you know, that we're all in it together.

that's little Satan, we're big Satan. It showed that the president is a fair and neutral broker and will look at both sides. And Israel isn't always right. The Middle East isn't always wrong. He showed that to them. That was the moment that the Palestinian said, okay, now wait a minute. Maybe he is a somewhat honest broker for being the great Satan. that's what brought this to a head and brought everybody to the table and said,

okay, we can trust Donald Trump. That's an amazing thing. Yeah. This is, you know, it's unequivocal here. And this is, you know, you still have to get this over the finish line. But these are incredible accomplishments. There are accomplishments that every, I mean, it has become for as long as I've been involved in politics and world events and cared about.

it at all. It has been the joke. Oh, Middle East peace right around the corner. Yeah. It has been the joke that it's impossible, that it will always be promised. And, you know, again, we got to get there, but like, this is as close as we've ever been. Would anyone ever say Gaza should be the Riviera? You would say, no, no. Donald Trump, his vision from the beginning has been, this can be prosperous. This could be the Riviera. You just have to stop the terrorism. So he got the Middle East together

and the Middle East now says we'll rebuild. We're not rebuilding it. I don't want a dime going to rebuild that. They'll rebuild it. They'll guarantee the peace there because they'll have their money invested in it in hotels and golf courses

and whatever they want to do and make it the Riviera. that changes everything all the dynamics because now the the the um Egypt and Saudi Arabia and Jordan and Qatar and everything else they're going to be pulling pouring billions of dollars into it they're not going to want it wrecked I mean he's just he's brilliant the guy if he doesn't get a Nobel prize assuming this the hostages come home next week you know yeah God only knows. But the guy deserves the Nobel Peace Prize. And I think they would just dissolve the award before they gave it to him. They would. They're like, no, no, no. No, that Nobel Prize thing,

that was yesterday. We don't do that anymore. We didn't pay our rent. The building's closed. Yeah. But he will quite obviously deserve it if this happens. Have you heard what the rest of the world is saying about him? I mean, all the leaders from all over the world are like, this is amazing. And the only reason it happened is because of Donald Trump. What is the left going to say? How do you, how do you, how do you, how do the protesters, if this ends? I mean, this is, this is why it won't end if it doesn't, because there is too much power that they'll be giving up on the streets of Europe and America and all over the world.

How do you have the Palestinian protesters on the streets tearing our cities apart? You don't. You don't. It's over. I mean, this is just genius from start to finish. Let me tell you about relief factor. Pain doesn't just slow you down. It rewrites your life. It starts scheduling your days around what hurts, you know, making excuses for the things you can't do that you used to do on you used to love. But what if that wasn't your story anymore? What if you could take back your mornings, your hobbies, your life, just one simple packet at a time. That is relief factor. It's a relief factor. It's

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celebrating my 26th wedding anniversary today. Oh my gosh. So it's a blessed day. Oh, well, congratulations. Congratulations. You know, it's weird. I'm coming up on my 26th on, uh, in January. January. Oh, fabulous. It's a good, it's a good amount of time to be married for sure. It is. So, Carol, let's talk a little bit about the price of gold hitting. What is it? It's over 4,000. Over 4,000, which is nuts. And I don't think people really understand. I don't think the average, this is my guess, and I want you to correct me. I don't think the average person is buying gold. I think this gold buying is happening from sovereign funds and central banks. banks, mainly, also Asian markets. I don't think Americans really understand what $4,000 an ounce means. Can you explain it? Yeah, absolutely. Obviously, both investors and central banks are catching up to the things that you and I have been talking about for years. So, you know, we were ahead. We warned everyone. And now this is a little bit of catch-up. Interestingly, you know, as you noted,

the average American is very behind in terms of what gold means. When you look at Chinese households, when you look at Indian households, there are estimates that each one of those countries' households owns up to 30,000 tons of gold at this point, which to put that in context, the U.S. government owns 8,133 tons. So the Indian households, all of them combined, 27,000 tons. Right. What we have, what we say we have, is 8100.

Right. Wow. So the households in China and India are really ahead of the curve. When you look at data for the U.S., it's a little bit hard to get good data, but for what I've seen, the estimates are only about 10 to 11 percent of U.S. households at all have exposure to gold. Now, I know that your audience is very sophisticated and is ahead. of the curve, and I would imagine, blows through that number, but just shows how sort of

unprepared U.S. households are, you know, in general. When you're looking at Indian and Chinese households that own gold, does that include all the gold jewelry? Yes. Yes. Okay. All right. Yes.

That's actually, particularly in India, sort of one of their preferred ways of procuring gold. Okay. So gold has shot up over $4,000 in record. time, I mean, breathtaking time. Yes. What is causing that? Okay, so there are a confluence of factors, and I think the two most important factors,

which of course are linked, are what Wall Street is now calling the debt debasement trade, which they've just caught onto and gave it a cute name, and the changing global financial order, and those are very much linked. So I'll go and see each of that. Tell me what the, what is it, the debt debasement? What is that? They're calling it the debt debasement trade, which is basically what you and I have been talking about, which is our unsustainable fiscal position, and what all of the money printing that we've seen over the past 17 years,

what that has done to our purchasing power and how that is going to catch up to us. So as a reminder, our debt to GDP is at emerging market crisis levels. We're 120 plus percent of GDP. We're running deficits that are equivalent to a wartime level or a recession level while we still have growth, which is crazy. We have interest rate that is outpacing defense or interest payments that are outpacing defense spending. So everyone is now finally catching on to the fact that this is an unsustainable financial position, and it is going to be very difficult to get out of without there being some sort of additional debasement of our currency, which is a fancy way of saying a diminishment of your purchasing power.

What's really crazy, there's a chart that's been going around, and they did kind of a comparison of different asset classes priced in U.S. dollars and priced in gold. So if you look from the end of September 2018 out seven years, And you look at the top 100 NASDAQ non-financial companies. It's called the NDX. In U.S. dollar terms, that is up 236%. So you think you're super rich, right? Right.

But in gold terms, solid money that doesn't have its value-de-based, it's only up 4.7%. Oh, my gosh. Wait, it gets worse. The S&P 500, up 133% over that period in dollar terms. it's down 27.6% in gold terms. And the what's called the Case Schiller Home Price Index, which is the value of homes, the way that's measured, in dollar terms up 60%,

where I'll say, oh, you know, houses so expensive. In gold terms, it's down 50%. In fact, right now, it takes less gold in terms of ounces to buy the median single-family house than it has in, you know, decades and decades and decades. So it goes to show that even though we see these dollars, they're buying less and less. And now, you know, you and I've been talking about this forever,

but now Wall Street is catching on, oh, that's not a great thing. And so in terms of preserving the hard-earned capital, we need something that is that, that hedge, that neutral hedge that's going to retain its value. and that's why more investors, institutional investors, funny enough, a lot of millennials more than anyone, starting to really get into gold. You know why?

Because millennials have not been trained their whole life. Trust the system. Yes. And they see it clearly. And they look at it and they're like, well, this doesn't make any sense at all. You can't spend this and, you know, you're going to wreck the dollar and everything else. they just see it without being trained over and over and over again that, oh, no, trust the system.

They don't trust the system. And once you realize that system is rigged in a million different ways and the system is not telling you the truth, like, I mean, that is amazing. When you look at the stock market and you say it's actually down when you compare it in U.S. dollars to gold, what's happening is, let me explain this to the audience. What all that means is gold is only going up in dollars. It's staying stable. Yes. But it's costing you more because of inflation. The dollars are buying less.

So it looks like you're paying more, but you're really not. It looks like the stock market is going up, but it's really not. It's what it costs to get in with dollars. If you were going in with gold, you'll actually see that if it was all done in gold, the stock market is down. The price of housing is down. It's the dollar. You had takes more dollars to buy than it does with gold, which holds its value. That is that if people could understand that one thing, that changes all of the conversations of the government's got to do something to make housing more affordable. No, they don't. They have to stabilize the dollar. They have to stop spending so much money.

Yeah, I mean, if you think of the three definitions of money, it is a medium of exchange, you know, how you help to exchange goods, it's a unit of account, which we say things are priced in dollars, and it's supposed to be a store of value. The unit of account that you just talked about, my friend Steve Forbes has a great analogy, and he talks about other measurements. You know, imagine that your clock, you know, one day, you know, 12 o'clock, you know, means midnight, another day, three o'clock means midnight, or six inches to measure a curtain one day, and then the same measurement is like a foot, a different day. You can't have a consistent measurement if the unit of

account continues to change, and that's what we've been seeing here with the dollar, and unfortunately it has not been to our favor, which means that when you work really hard to earn something and it's valued in a dollar that over time, that work that you've put out, your productivity is worth less and less. And so what gold is meant to do, it's meant to be capital preservation. It's not a risk asset. It's not meant to take on risk and, you know, maybe go up a ton and maybe go down a ton. It's really meant to be a counterbalance to what you have earned so that you can preserve your purchasing power. You know, I've been saying this for a long time that, you know, you can put your money, and I have money in stock market, but you put your money in the stock market.

If things really go awry, go ahead. You're going to cash out for an awful lot of money, but those dollars, it's going to be paid back to you in dollars. Those dollars will be worth less, even though there's more of them stacked up than that ounce of gold or that, you know, 10 ounces of gold or whatever you had. The stock market is paid in dollars. And as, And so as the inflation goes up, but gold keeps its value, keeps its value, and holds it steady. So yeah, you're going to be paid more in dollars if you try to sell your gold, but that's going to continue to increase while stock markets will go down. Am I right? And it's a counterbalance.

So if things were to shift and for some reason, you know, things were to change with the dollars, which would need a lot of different catalyst, and then your gold goes down, it's a counterbalance, which is why it's important to have that diversification in your portfolio and to have the gold hedge. What's interesting, Glenn, is just the history. We're talking about millennials, you know, they went through the Great Recession financial crisis. You know, they're kind of, you know, keyed into this.

But if you think about when we came out of the 70s with this crazy inflation, we came out of the gold standard, it used to be, you know, very commonplace for a financial advisor to sit down and say, okay, we've been through this. And so you should be putting, you know, five to 10 percent of your portfolio and gold. As the stock market took off in dollars and became this big thing and they started seeking fees, that went away. And financial advisors who don't get paid sometimes at all when you allocate to gold, stop recommending it. And now we're seeing a shift back. Now we're seeing, you know, oh, yes, you should have some. Some of the big. names out there saying even more.

Ray Dalio just came out and said 15%. Yes, we've seen from big names like that anywhere from 10 to 20. And when they surveyed high net worth investors, which are $250,000 or assets or more, they're averaging right now 21% of their holdings. Wow. Very big flip in recent years on how this is being viewed by the people who have accumulated those dollars and are worried about that. Okay, so let me just summarize here before we move on to some other questions.

That is exactly what my grandfather who lived through the Depression said. What are the people with big, large amounts of money doing? I want to do that, and if I would have done that, I would have been better off in the Great Depression. You just heard it. 20% or more, right, for big dollars, they're investing in gold, 20%. You should have some. Some. And it's interesting.

Some of the portfolios we're seeing, some of that is coming, not necessarily from the equity piece, but from the fixed income piece, which is pretty interesting, too. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck podcast. Hear more of this interview and others with the full show podcast. Available wherever you get podcasts. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We're glad you're here. We welcome now to the studios, the very special, very talented. daughter of mine, Cheyenne Grace.

Hi, thanks for having me. Yeah, you're welcome, Shaiyan. She loves it. Thanks for letting me visit you. Yeah, yeah. She's always like, she came in and she's like, I'm going to vomit blood. No, I was like, dude, I feel like I'll have a throwout.

But it's, you know, you, your mom said, when did you come into town? Tuesday? Tuesday, absolutely on Tuesday. And your mom and I were out doing some stuff, and she said, Cheyenne comes in in a couple hours. and I had forgotten that you were flying in that day. And I mean, my stomach just jumped.

I was so excited. I miss you so much. Miss you. Yeah, it's been like a good month and a half since I moved. I know. It's been a time, you know? You were there with Charlie Kirk when? I was, yeah.

My friends and I went to the event to go and just kind of see what the environment was like, because we've seen it all over TikTok, like all of his events. And we just wanted to see what the vibe was like. And then things just took a really big turn and it was really scary. And we're getting through it. And it's difficult. And, you know, all of our hearts are just with Charlie's family and his team. And everyone who was close to him knew him.

Anyway, it's just, it's terrible. So many people feel like they knew him even though they didn't. I mean, because you kind of feel that way, don't you? Did you ever meet Charlie? I met him once. And he was very kind. But like you watch him, he was so personal. and personable and so real that I think a lot of people,

even though they never met him, they kind of felt like they were friends. You know, they knew him. Yeah, for sure. That's what a lot of people were saying around like my area was just like, I feel like I lost someone that was close to me. And I feel like social media has a way of doing that. If you follow someone for a long time,

you feel like you know them with a lot of like your audience as well. Like I feel like a lot of people are very, oh, I feel like I know them, you know. And that's just, that's the special part about, you know, being able to share stuff on social media is you create this special connection. But it's so hard when you lose someone like that. Devastating thing to go through. Yeah. There has to be something better to talk about than that again. I just, it's such a traumatic thing.

And what are you up to? Well, hang on before that. Let me ask you. how are you dealing with my trip today? I'm going to fill in for Charlie. Yeah, I'm okay. In North Dakota. When, I mean, when you told me two weeks ago,

it was right after everything happened, two weeks ago, however, a couple weeks ago, instantly got very nervous because it was the two days after it happened. But I was like, are you? crazy and then you know I was touching base with some of your team yesterday and just talking about because I got reached out to talking about you know you're still nervous and I was just saying you know it doesn't really leave you and stuff like that happens and

when your family is kind of going into that position as well like that's scary and also the fact that I have an event tonight and I'm going to be on stage while you're there is just you know Yeah. It's scary, but you know, you're going to do great. You're going to do great. So you, there is the movie that you worked on your very first time on screen. Yeah. Can we play a little bit of this?

It's a movie called The Best Thing About Christmas. Hey, are you going to one more song? Yeah. And she plays a young daughter who is a... Aspiring music artist. Yeah. And she dies pretty quickly. Oh, I'm not supposed to say that.

Oh, she doesn't die. What are you talking about? But, uh... Alan, if you're watching this. Yeah. So sorry. You come on my show. You get what you get.

Dude. So this is being actually labeled as a musical, which I think is really unfair, because it's not a music. You're not breaking out and song in the street. It's like this. And it's different type. It's not musical sounding music. It's more of it.

Yeah. It's more of it. Yeah. Yeah. So when is this, when's this coming out? So we don't have a final release date yet, because the movie's still in post-production. We're about to get the final film.

But if you would like to stay updated with when it's going to come out, you can go and follow the film at The Best Thing About Christmas Movie on their socials, and then the website is the best to be out Christmas movie.com. I thought you were going to announce today. I think you did too, you know, some real information, but they just, they were going to make an announcement here soon on something that just happened.

Yeah. And so I think that's really exciting. Are they going to announce the end of the movie? Is that how they're going to, is that we're going to do? Like, how much of it is going to give away when they make the announcement? Are they just going to tell the entire? I didn't think they were planning to give it away at all. Oh, really?

I think that already covered that. Wow. No, yeah. Because that's an interesting strategy. That's kind of the whole thing. Yeah, actually. You know, how this family, you know, how this family, you know, He's actually Luke's father.

But, yeah. That was in the trailer, if I remember right. You're the, you are the worst. How do you even have this job? I don't know. I really don't know. He's really bad at keeping secrets. Yes.

Really bad. Can we focus on her for a minute? No. What does always turn against me? This always happens. You're not invited again. Okay. All right.

Last time I checked, I was having a pretty good sleep last night and I was like, I gotta get up for dad's show. And now here I am. So she has been, she's been trying out for shows, you know, professional. Yeah, been trying. But you know what? Getting callbacks, you were going to spend most of your time. Getting rejected. Yeah. I mean, I don't know how you do that, but. It's hard, you know, but we do it. We do it. But there's a difference between being rejected for a show like that and then not being rejected by like McDonald's. Stop.

Are we really about a taco? Wait, what's happening? Okay, okay. So I just, so I just moved to you, Tom, right? Okay. And for some reason, I can't get a job to save my life. Really? I have applied.

She's like, she will take any job. I will take anything. I don't care. Like, I am flexible. Like, I can do whatever. I can juggle. I don't know. Well, I can't juggle.

Well, you're in movies. You have a best-selling album. No, she will wash the dishes. She'll flip burgers. My dream job right now is to be a barista at Dutch bros. Dutch bros. I want to work at Dutch bros so bad. I don't know why.

Every single time I'm at the window, I pull up, and they're like, hey, girl. I'm like, hey, and we vibe so on. I'm like, I need to work there. So Dutch bros is listening. But they rejected you at two locations. Two locations. I've applied for like 10 jobs. I've gotten no responses.

But for some reason. And I'm like, I can sing, I can dance. Wait, hire me, please. Thanks. Is it possible that they see your last name? And then it's like, no, she doesn't. Are you not using it? Okay, good.

Actually, no, I have to use my legal. See, that's the problem. That's the problem. Everywhere else she's like, you know, she's, she, I think you were like six. And you're like, I'm not using your name, dad. I'm not using it because I know what that's going to do for my career. This is what happens. People ask me what I do.

I say I work at Dutch bros. That's what I say. No, I'm literally, that's my cover. I'm like, I don't know, I'm a barista. No, yeah. The only place that has actually reached out to me to reject me is Starbucks. And I'm like, oh, that's very nice. Yeah, but I was like, you're rejecting me?

Really? I'm like, I'm like, you're number one fan. Well, we will give me the address again of where people can follow the movie. So if you want to follow up on the movie, their website is the best thing about Christmasmovie.com. And then you can find all of their socials on Facebook and Instagram at, the best thing about Christmas movie. It's a really uplifting.

It's kind of, it's kind of, tell us more about the movie. I want to know more. And please, please spoil more. It's kind of like a wonderful life that you enjoy the movie, but it's such a great message. Oh, cool.

It's really a great. That was an amazing clip. I feel like there's definitely the risk of, in one of those scenes, because for people who couldn't see it, you're on stage at like a bar and you're nervous and you're trying to say, there's definitely potential for that scene.

to look cheesy and sound cheesy. It didn't, though. That was great. That's actually the first scene that I filmed when I stepped on set. They were like, they were like, all right. Day one. Walk on the set. First time, never acting.

No film experience, nothing. They were like, day one is our biggest day. And I was like, barf. And so I go on. And those are like real, real nerves because I'm singing in front of like probably 50 people that I have never met. And I'm like, I hope you like this.

And they're all actors and everybody else. Yeah, all of them have. Go ahead. Show us what you got. Yeah. Well, this is the same thing they did with, in Rocky 4. When Ivan Drago comes out from under the ground and he had never been in front of these people, there's a giant crowd. They're going crazy. It's supposed to be a Vegas boxing match.

So you may be the next Dolph Lundgren. Wow. Wow. The guns are out. All right. Thanks, Shia. I love you. Yeah, thanks for having me.

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