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On today's podcast, Pat joins me from the Packray Unleashed program.
And we talk about what happened over the weekend.
Was there any news at all?
Why is he not capable of running a campaign,
but he is capable of being president of the United States?
Doesn't that seem a little, maybe perhaps backwards?
Why did he announce it on Sunday in kind of a rushed fashion when
people said that it would be Sunday afternoon at the latest that he would do it, but he denied it.
Who's lying? Why could we possibly, and how could we possibly accept Kamala Harris,
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We started Friday with someone releasing that Joe Biden would on Sunday resign.
Now, this is not what Joe Biden said.
In fact, nobody in the White House agreed with that on Friday.
In fact, just before the tweet went out, nobody in the White House even knew he was going to.
I'm going to get back to that here in a second because I think something doesn't smell right.
Now, the reason why they say is because of money, polling, it would wipe out the Democratic Party, staff, friends, donors, all abandoned Joe Biden.
I don't think that's it.
Why did they announce on Friday?
And who announced on Friday that a missive would be coming from the White House?
And he would resign.
Now, this is why this bothers me.
When you do something this dramatic, first time in American history, when you do something
this dramatic, you don't usually just spring it on everyone.
You usually will go in and have a speech, and they will announce that the president is
and they'll speculate what he's going to say, et cetera, et cetera.
And then he gives a speech from the Oval Office.
in his stepping down from the party,
he said he would be addressing it later this week.
Why? Why didn't he address it from the Oval, like all other presidents?
Why would he just pop it out?
My guess is there was another gun waiting to go off.
You have until noon.
You have until 2 p.m. on Sunday to resign.
Or what?
What did Joe Biden get in return for resigning?
Was there, were there promises made by anyone that we will make sure that you're not,
you're not held responsible for any of those crimes that you might have committed?
And was it said this way, look, Joe, you and I both know,
there's some real flaming hot evidence here that you were selling your country out.
make sure that goes away and you and your family will be pardoned. But you have until noon on
Sunday. I don't know that's speculation, but I feel like there was a gun that was going to go off
on Sunday at some point. There is also, you know, they can, they can pardon him if he steps down from
presidency, I don't think he's going to be president until the end of the year, or until January 20th.
But they can pardon him if he's not the president. They can pardon his family. And they can very
easily blame that now on if Trump gets in, it's going to be just revenge. He's just going to put all
the Bidens in family and we had to. And that'll be good enough, apparently, for a lot of Democrats.
Nancy Pelosi was the driving force behind all of this.
And I loved Nancy Pelosi in the last few weeks where she was like, you know, we want Joe Biden to make the decision himself.
I made the decision. I'm staying. Yeah, right. But he'll make that decision. And we're waiting for that decision.
I already made that decision. As like I said, he'll make it. And we're very excited for him to make that decision.
it's like Barack Obama used to say,
you know, we can get along.
You just have to get in the boat with me.
Oh, wait.
So wait, I'm a radical that needs to be destroyed,
but you'll forgive me if I sign up for everything you want to do.
Oh, okay.
All right.
So she was the driving force behind this.
Now, Alex Soros said he would not.
endorse Kamala Harris, yet he did right away yesterday. In fact, people are lining up. Barack Obama
strangely did not endorse Kamala Harris. I personally don't think, and I'd love to hear your thoughts
on this, I don't think Kamala is going to be the candidate in the end.
Who do you think it's going to be?
Pat?
I don't know.
I don't see how they pass her up because she's a black woman.
So you've got double identity politics going there.
She's the next in line.
She'd be really tough to jettison.
But if they open it up at the convention, pretty much anything could happen.
So I think they'd like it to be Gavin Newsome or Gretchen Whitmer.
Oh, I hope.
Yeah.
But, yeah.
You know, here's the thing.
You know, they, first of all, why didn't Biden step down?
There's a couple of questions.
Why didn't he step down as president of the United States?
If he is not capable of running a campaign, he is certainly not capable of running the White House.
Now, that may have been the gun that was going to go off.
25th Amendment.
We're going to, we're going to take you out of the United States.
the Oval. We'll leave you as president so you can finish your term and we'll have parades for you and
everything else. And you'll be remembered as one of the greatest presidents of all time. And gee,
look at how George Washington you are by stepping aside for the good of the country and the party.
That is a possible gun that could have gone off. Otherwise, the 25th Amendment is going to be
exercised. So there's no reason why the man can't run a campaign. You know, because
All of this is he's cognitively not there.
He can't do it.
He can't debate.
Well, if you can't debate, I don't want you in a room with Putin or Z.
I don't want you on the telephone with anybody.
But the Democrats are suddenly fine with that because they say he can't win.
Well, Pat, look at Kamala Harris's poll.
Kamala Harris, she is, she's below Joe Biden.
She is more unliked than Donald Trump is.
So why would they go for somebody else who has this horrible, horrible image and likability problem,
who polls just the same, if not a little below Joe Biden?
Why would you have that as your replacement?
That doesn't make sense?
No.
Really, I mean, nobody makes sense, though, on the Democrat side.
who does make sense. Gavin Newsom has a terrible record in California that can be exploited easily.
Gretchen Whitmer in Michigan, I mean, she's terrible. They've got nobody on the bench.
Right. But I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about what doesn't make sense to me is why you jettison somebody and you say it is because he's not capable.
We'll lose. He's not capable. He's not capable of running a campaign, but he's okay, to run.
run the country for the next six months.
Doesn't make sense. That bothers me.
That's an inconsistency. Then also the other thing that bothers me is the honest ones will say,
well, he just can't beat Donald Trump. His poll numbers are too horrible.
Well, Kamala's poll numbers are just as horrible. So why wouldn't you,
why would you let him in and then accept this person? And why, why?
wouldn't you push for him to retire?
Is it because then you lose the first female black president to be president as a, as a
election trick?
I mean, why wouldn't he just resign and her take over?
And then she can run and she'll have, you know, she'll be the president and you can
show what she can do and that, you know, people get used to it.
or do you need the fact that she'll be the first black, you know, Asian president, female?
I mean, I don't think they want to waste it on her.
I honestly don't.
I don't think they want.
I mean, they are holding that back.
And I don't know how they get away with not running her as president because of that.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
you took her on, you know you took her on because of DEI,
you took her on for DEI purposes,
and now you're not going to let her go because you say she's not qualified.
You want, what, a white woman, a white man?
They can't get away with that.
They're so screwed.
They really are.
Every second of it.
Yeah.
It's going to be a fun convention.
I mean, if you thought 1968 was chaos, wow.
I mean, they didn't have the kind of chaos within the,
party that in 1968 that they have now. This is unprecedented stuff and this is something that
you really want to pay attention to because this is American history in the making.
How is it, Pat, that we have Democrats that have been saying that this is the end of democracy
and yet the same ones that have been telling you he's fine, he's fine, he's fine,
are now the ones saying, boy, he's not fine.
They called us a conspiracy theorist to say that he wasn't fine.
Then when it was exposed, they're the ones saying it's okay.
They were also the ones, or that it's not okay.
They were also the ones that said, no, he doesn't need to have a primary.
We don't primary him.
He doesn't need to go and actually campaign
and primary. They wanted to keep this quiet for as long as they could. So they're the ones, because
remember, when there was no primary, the reason why people were talking about it, because a lot of
Democratic voters didn't want Joe Biden. They didn't think that he, but those people were
crazy and dangerous, their own voters. So they had 14 million people vote for Joe Biden. And now,
for the third time, the presidential election,
in the Democratic Party is going to be decided by elites.
The first time it occurred was 2016 when the Democratic National Committee manipulated money in the
process to help Hillary Clinton beat Bernie Sanders.
Remember that? And all the Sanders people were pissed off.
Super delegate.
The second time, right. The second time was 2020 when the party elites pushed out Pete Buttigieg and
Amy Klobuchar so Elizabeth Warren would split the progressive vote with,
Bernie Sanders, which then made Biden the candidate.
Both times, both times, people knew this was happening.
Now this time, even though she was deeply, deeply unpopular with Democratic voters.
Remember, she came in last.
She bailed.
Nobody liked her.
She's now apparently going to be the candidate because they thwarted the primary system.
so they didn't let the people speak.
And now they're going to go to an open primary.
That's what they're actually calling for.
It is crazy for the Democratic Party, the ones that are shouting that, you know,
we're headed towards a dictatorship where the elites will call all the shots.
They have the elites calling all the shots.
You know, it was a very small number of Democratic Party donors and the media that chose Hillary Clinton,
Biden and Harris.
It was the media that influenced the donors and decided Biden should go after his, you know,
they should go after him on the disastrous debate performance.
The ordinary Democrat, really, do you realize you don't have a voice anymore?
When the media insisted, insisted he was fine, you just jumped on board with the media saying,
yeah, see, you guys are liars.
How many times do they have to do this to you before you wake up and go, gosh, these guys are really not good people.
They're just not good people.
Well, Trump.
Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.
You are sacrificing your own influence, your own liberty, your voice.
What, at the altar of not Trump?
How many people do you think in China and Russia and Iran?
right now we're like, well, I don't know. I mean, now it's a toss-up. Do we go for Kamala or Trump?
They're all going for Kamala Harris. It's going to get even easier for them. And here's how this is
going to work. So in early August, they're trying to put this together. In early August,
they're going to have an open primary. So it'll be an open convention. And they'll go out and say,
to all the delegates, who do you want to be president?
If they come up with Kamala Harris, then they're all going to be like,
Kamala's the one.
But then, on the second vote, it is open to the superdelegates.
These are about 5,000 of the super elites.
And the super elites get to vote.
And whatever the super elites get to vote, whatever they vote,
well, that's going to probably be, well, that's more important than the other
delegates, I'll tell you that.
So you've got about 5,000 people total that are going to be making the decision in Chicago
on who you can have as your choice for president of the United States.
And it's all caused by the same people who are now voting.
They're all the ones that told you he was fine.
They're all the ones that said, no, no, no, he's super, super moderate.
And just a fuddy-duddy.
a little old man that just means well.
And these are the people who are saving democracy.
Let's not forget.
This is all about democracy and how they're trying to save this country from the non-democratic Donald Trump.
And you know that that's right.
I mean, the super delegates are going to decide this thing next month.
It's absolutely what's going to happen.
And I don't think the super delegates and the.
super elite in the Democrat Party, I don't think they want Kamala Harris.
Oh, I don't. I don't think so either. I don't think so either. You'll notice it Barack Obama did not endorse.
Right. And they spoke yesterday. Kamala. Yeah. And it's interesting to me. I don't think that she's going to be the nominee. I could be wrong.
But I just don't think something's going to happen that will make it easy for her not to be the presidential candidate.
at least that's what I
think. I mean, they just, they don't want,
the American people are not going to stand for another cram down.
They're not.
Oh, she's the first female black Asian president.
Nobody cares anymore.
They just don't care anymore.
And she's wildly unlikable, wildly.
I mean, first of all, the first female president didn't work with Hillary
because she's as likable as Kamala Harris.
us.
The two are just, you put them in a room together.
I think they cancel each other out.
I think they just disappear.
And her policies
are a little crazy.
She does have policies, kind of.
At least we can look at her record and see what she was for and what she was against.
And it's going to be a, well, it's not an easy transition to make for for.
Americans and I believe most Democrats.
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This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.
So let me go to Carol Roth now, who is joining us.
She is the author of You Will Own Nothing and a former investment banker.
I want to talk to her a little bit about Kamala Harris,
but also about this so-called short, taking a short position against Donald J. Trump,
a day before the assassination attempt of 713.
She's been looking into it for us.
Carol, welcome.
Hi, Glenn.
Have you aged 12 years in the last 10 days like I have?
Yes, I have. Yes, I have. Yes, I have. And I think we're going to age another 40 years by the end of the summer.
Yeah, I think you're right, unfortunately.
Okay, so tell me, tell me, is this true or not, the Trump media option story?
So this is one of the biggest stories going around social media and certainly was very odd, right?
the day before he gets assassinated.
There is this big set of options contracts,
betting against the stock,
saying that they were betting that the stock was going to fall massively,
millions and millions of contracts.
And, of course, everybody's tying,
what does this mean, what does this mean?
So this is what I found based on publicly available information.
So registered investment advisor called Austin Private Wealth,
as you mentioned, they have to file what's called
a 13F filing. This is a disclosure filing that's required quarterly from any investment manager that
has more than $100 million in assets under management. And basically, it lists all of their
equity holdings, which usually includes equity-related options and other ETFs and stocks and the
like at the end of every quarter. And since after the quarter ends, it takes a little bit of
time to gather the data.
You know, that's usually filed within a few weeks after the end of the quarter.
So the filing for Austin Wealth as of the end of June was made on July 12th.
So people who sort of, you know, think that this was reflective of something that happened
on July 12 didn't really appreciate that this was an end of June report that was filed on
July 12.
So that sort of set up the first wave of...
Okay.
The second thing, very unfortunate, is that they had a third-party vendor, apparently, according to their press release, that had erroneously misstated their positions.
And that meant that for the Trump media group, they had put, instead of putting 12 contracts, which represented 1,200 shares, because each contract is 100 share, it showed that they had 12 million.
share equivalent. So, you know, that sounds a little sketchy. Why would they do that? But they did that
on every single call-and-put option that they had listed. So it was, you know, for Nvidia, they had
370 million shares listed, Bank of America, 110 million shares. So this was a clear error
across the board. And because I don't believe anything, I went back and I checked all of the previous
filings. And in all of the previous filings, they had a normalized number, a number of
of contracts being shown.
So it was clear this was a mistake and it was an outlier.
So when you put these two things together and you look like,
it looks like there's so many shares and it's done at a time period that looks like it was the,
you know, Friday before the assassination attempt, but really that was just filing date.
It got very blown out of proportion and they recognized their error and they did a new filing
that they had to amend with the SEC and this is on July.
Y-16th, and for anybody who's super nerdy and likes to go through and look at filings, this is all
available on the SEC site, Edgar, which allows you to find, you know, all the filings, the
publicly available filings that are made by companies. So it's an unfortunate mistake in
terms of timing and sort of the scope of the mistake that was made. Okay. Let me take
the next one, and that is CrowdStrike.
there was a major outage this weekend.
And they say it was just a release of new software and it was, you know, it was just an error that nobody caught.
How does that happen and put the United States?
I mean, there were like 12 planes flying in the sky because of this.
And Europe was hit even harder than we were.
Yeah, this is, you know, I've talked about Nassim Taleb before in previous books and things.
like that, and he's the author and sort of coiner of the phrase, the Black Swan and wider
use.
Right.
And they talk about these systemic risks that are being brought on by the fact that we're
also interconnected, and technology is really exacerbating the systemic risk.
In fact, it's one of the reasons I argued, and you won't nothing, that a central bank
digital currency on top of all the other reasons made no sense, because it increases, you
the idea that you could have this massive one-off systemic risk instead of everything being
decentralized and having maybe more frequent but smaller risks.
So when you have a firm that is tied into basically every major company on the planet
and is impacting how their infrastructure runs, you're increasing the ability to have these
huge systemic risks.
Now, how can this happen?
Is it intentional?
Is it a test run?
Is it just incompetence?
Unfortunately, I tend to think that we are in the era of incompetence.
And, you know, that is in many ways just as bad.
And we've seen in all of these different areas of our lives,
these sort of lackadaisical policies and the fact that people are no longer in school
taught merit and excellence and the value of their name and their work,
and they just want to be, you know, given things based on an equity, and because I showed up,
you know, you do get these, you know, how could it happen?
I mean, we all sit there and go, yeah, wouldn't you test for these things?
But, you know, that's sort of the reality we're living in.
And I think it really should highlight and put a giant red neon sign on the fact that we shouldn't all
beyond these same systems.
There should be some level of decentralization.
there should at least be a secondary fail-safe because, you know, this is something that was massive
and was able to be brought back up in short order.
But the next time, that may not be the case.
And this is the kind of stuff you and I've been talking about in terms of preparation.
Because, you know, what if you didn't have ATM access for multiple days?
What if you didn't have access to a pharmacy that couldn't get you your medication on time
because, you know, they couldn't access their records?
I mean, there's so many things now that are all completely reliant on technology, which is great when it works 99% of the time.
And when it doesn't work, it can be a disaster.
So quickly, I just want to touch on Jamie Diamond being thrown around.
What a surprise that is when I saw him at Davos.
And he was like, you know, we should take a second look at Donald Trump.
I don't think he's that bad of a guy.
But he wants to be Treasury Secretary.
But I also saw a story that Donald Trump is friends with Larry Fink from BlackRock.
and would consider that.
I don't believe that.
What have you heard?
Yes, I saw that headline as well, and I almost fell over.
You know, the Jamie Diamond versus Larry Fink, I'm taking Jamie Diamond every single day,
you're 24-7, 365, every single time.
Jamie himself has been positioning to get out of J.P. Morgan for the first time ever,
He said that, you know, it's no longer a, I'm going to be here for the next five years.
It's, you know, I'm looking for a successor.
One of the things that you may or may not be aware of, and this happened with Gary Cohn
in the last administration, is that if you go into an administration, they make you sell all of your shares,
which means you don't have to, at that point, pay the capital gains taxes on them.
So it's a really great way if you've got a lot of stock to get a windfall.
So, and given the fact that Jamie Diamond is plugged in with all of all of these people and knows what's going on, I think that that's one to watch for Larry Figg.
I think we all need to raise our voices if that sounds like it's becoming something that's going to happen.
Yeah, I'm going to.
I always tell you that for people who say, should I get out of the stock market, you have to remember, these guys are always taking care of their own.
If we're talking about Jamie Diamond in charge of things, what do you think is number?
one priority is going to be. Wall Street. Right. So let me switch now to Kamala Harris. Just based on the
insane thing she was for when she was a senator and running, what happens to the economy
under Kamala Harris? Yeah, this is very scary. I mean, we know that Kamala doesn't have a lot of
economic stats. We know she likes Venn diagrams, but that's about it. And yellow school.
buses. Yes, and yellow school buses. So that's sort of the extent of her economic knowledge. And
what's scary about that is it makes her more susceptible to the bad actors. We already know that Biden
was not the one who was running the last administration. I mean, that's super clear to everyone.
He was positioned as a moderate, and he was the most destructive president economically and otherwise
that we have seen in a lifetime. So now you have the same people who are pulling the public strength,
and now they have Kamala Harris, who has, and I know that Justin Haskins, your co-authors
brought this up before, she has a very checkered history.
She was, I think a lot of people forget this, she was one of the Senate sponsors, co-sponsors,
of the original Green New Deal.
Which was insane.
Yeah, I don't know people remember because the Biden version's insane, too, but this was like,
you know, $100 trillion insane, and that was their asses.
So, you know, this is somebody who is in the same league as Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren when they're talking about policy.
We have her on video saying things like, I don't think there should be any private health care.
And if you go back to being, you know, somebody who wanted to step into that co-sponsorship, most of the senators did not want anything to do with that.
But there were a handful that did.
She stepped forward.
And if you start going through that, I mean, it's a socialization of everything.
not only just completely killing energy policy, but it's a socialization of labor and wages
and even more so of college and all of these different government handouts and, you know,
basic income programs. So I think that people really need to be doubled down on,
A, this is not only an extension of the Biden administration terrible policies because the same people
are pulling the strings, but she's also a lot of.
with every
cookie socialist
on the planet.
And this isn't a person
with a lot of political
cloud afforded to
that says,
no, you know,
what I came from,
you know,
this area,
I've ran a business,
you know,
I'm strong in this,
in this,
and I know,
I mean,
do you think she has
any idea
what monetary policy is?
I can't imagine
she does,
and that makes her
extra,
extra.
Uh,
thank you so much.
I appreciate it,
Carol.
Uh,
thanks for all of the homework
that you've done
over the weekend
to prepare for this segment.
I appreciate it.
Carol Roth, you can follow her at Carol Roth.com slash news, and you can get her updates on stories and the economy and also her book.
You will own nothing to the former investment banker Carol Roth.com. Thanks, Carol.
The best of the Glenn Beck program.
Let's have a chat. First of all, let me say hello to Best Friend. Great.
sitting for stupid here.
Hi.
I was thrilling to say out of you.
And also,
yeah, also Steve Baker joins us.
Steve Baker is, of course,
a menace to society,
a dangerous man that should not be on the streets.
Somehow or another, he is still on the streets.
They have it.
And if you have a bad problem with parading in your town,
God help you if Steve ever comes to town.
Steve, how are you, sir?
Hey, Glenn, I'm good. Thanks.
Steve is the investigative journalist and Blaze Media correspondent.
Have you been looking into the Secret Service problem?
I don't know what the problem is, but there's something there.
Glenn, in the last 10 days, I feel like I've been drinking from a fire hose on this.
I was actually in D.C.
I was pulling out of actually Fairfax County just across the river there on exactly the moment
that this assassination attempt happened.
I regret, holy, that I did not turn my car around because I was headed back home to
Raleigh at the time.
I regret that I did not immediately drive to Butler County in Pennsylvania.
I don't know how far it is, four or five hours, whatever it was from where I was located
at the time, because we had an avalanche of really good on-the-ground intel that was coming
in for the first 12 or 16 hours after the shot.
shots were fired.
But then came the gag order from Majorcas all the way down the chain.
And they not only instructed their on the ground secret service agents who were there that day,
no more, zip it up, don't say a word.
Literally the words were, if you want to keep your job, you're going to shut up.
You can't talk to your wife.
You can't talk to another Secret Service officer agent, even outside of the investigation itself.
And so that came down, it came down hard.
They also ordered all of the local police departments to follow the same gag order.
They ordered Pennsylvania State Police, the local sheriff's department, etc., etc.
So they put them all under the same gag order.
They weren't exactly 100% successful with some of the other agencies because we are still getting some information out.
But that's what I've been living now for the last nine, ten days.
Okay. Well, there's nothing that gives people more confidence than gag orders.
Yeah.
Let me ask you a couple of things and see if you've looked into them yet.
The things that are disturbing beyond the 3% slope of that roof, which is so highly dangerous,
is the shooter on the water tower? Have you looked into that?
Yeah. Look. Is that true?
I have watched now. In fact, I was driving.
here to Dallas yesterday. And so during that drive, I was able to pull up on YouTube all of these
conspiracy theorists videos about the multiple shooters. So now we're two, three, even four
shooters is what they're claiming. And now the conspiracy theorists are now fighting amongst
themselves about how many and where the shots came from and that sort of thing. Look, I'm going to
tell you, this is the first time that we've revealed this publicly. We did write an article.
Our first article was about the 448 yard shot that came from the.
the Secret Service sniper, our counter sniper, that took out the kid crooks.
Which was far more distant than they originally said, right?
Correct.
Because it was supposedly from the 130 yards approximately that everybody showed the two counter snipers on.
Yeah, we published that story.
It came from like three times that.
Yeah, we published that story last Tuesday.
And then Trump in his speech Thursday night said, heard he said, he said,
And then the secret service sniper took him out from a much, much further distance than we had first learned.
Right.
So we were kind of like, okay, yeah, thanks for the confirmation, Mr. President.
But the bottom line is, is that we've been able to, through our sources on the ground,
we've been able to confirm that we know that the kid got off something on the order of eight shots.
They say six to eight.
We actually even have one local cop who is telling us that there were 10 casings possibly
found there on the top of that roof. That's still nebulous. So we're sticking with the six to
ten line right now. But no, there's no evidence whatsoever that a shot came from the water
tower. There is some evidence, though, that the counter-sniper's got off as many as three
shots. So we know that one missed for sure. We know that the guys that were behind them up on the
behind the stage, behind Trump, those counter-sniper teams, we know that they did not make the
connection. We know that one of those definitely missed. And then we also know because, as I said,
we haven't revealed this yet, I actually had in my hands the telemetry from the counter-sniper's
scope within an hour after the shooter was taken out. Wow. Now, I've not been allowed to publish
that, and there's reasons for that because there are good guys that were on the ground that we're
trying to help them keep their jobs.
Mm-hmm.
So that's the bottom line there.
So does it tell us anything?
It tells us it was a 448-yard shot.
Tells us what the wind speed was, tells us how many clicks they made to compensate for
distance and bullet drop, you know, that sort of thing.
But you can't say exactly where because that would...
That's correct.
That would reveal who took the shot.
So Steve, what about the idea that they had seen him up to an hour before?
they knew before something was wrong, saw him, you know, taking measurements before Trump even got on stage,
and nobody in Secret Service alerted the president or even thought about not going through
with everything.
What about that?
Is that true?
It's even worse than that, Glenn.
We know that the counter-sniper's had crooks in their sight at least two minutes.
maybe even as much as 10 minutes ahead of time.
We know that they had them in their sights,
but we know that they did not take him out and pull the trigger because,
and this is where it gets fun,
and I'm watching Cheatel up here on television doing her, you know,
testimony before Congress right now.
And this is where the cover up begins,
and this is where the lives begin.
It's because we now know, conclusively,
that the counter-sniper teams were trying to, quote-unquote,
de-conflict,
Now, what that means is that we are told that there was supposed to be a counter-sniper team
on top of the very roof, which crooks fired his shot at President Trump.
So did they think that was a counter-sniper?
They did know, and that was the problem.
They had a briefing.
Now, they did not have, they didn't get their, they didn't do their whole normal routine.
They weren't their days in advance, citing the counter-sniper teams having a typical, you know,
SOP, standard operating procedure.
None of that was done that day.
We know that.
We know that they did get a briefing and they were told where the other counter snipers would be.
So they didn't shoot each other, right?
So they were told.
And they were told there would be a team on that roof.
So suddenly they see somebody with a gun in the prone position.
Now, if they got a good scope, they knew he had long hair.
They knew he had a gray T-shirt.
They knew he had on camo shorts.
They knew he wasn't dressed like a counter-sniper, right, from a professional police organization.
But they were told, and also these sniper teams are always in pairs, so they couldn't see his spotter.
So they're looking for his spotter.
Was he on the other side of that little slightly sloped roof?
There's a spotter behind a tree.
They couldn't find the spotter.
So they were, quote unquote, deconflicting.
And this is where it gets bad, is that the policing agencies and the Secret Service were not on the same radio comms.
We know that the local county team had the.
their own com center. We know that Secret Service had their own comm center set up. But we also had
shooters or counter-snipers from Pennsylvania State Police. They weren't on the same comms.
So the big failure there is when you're not on the same comms, you have another guy, you have a
representative in each one of the command centers who's basically you cross-pollinate with the agency
so that they can talk to each other. So you've got a handheld, oh, we're hearing this. Can you
radio your guys? So these guys, these snipers that had him cited are calling this in. They can't
can't hear gets even worse. If this chatter is going on, the three guys that need to be hearing this
are Trump's close detail guys on the stage with him. Those three, the big, you know, professional
looking Secret Service guys that piled on top of him, they needed to be hearing that. They
weren't hearing it, which is why they did not intervene and pull him off the stage in advance
of that attack. Wow. Incredible. So can you, can you, uh,
align what we do know with just gross incompetence.
I mean, incompetence at a biblical scale.
Yeah.
You know.
It's time tens.
Can you square this?
I can't yet, Glenn, I can't square it because when I look at these things,
you must always go to government incompetence first.
All right.
You have to go there.
And then you talk about the largest government in the world is going to be the most incompetent government in the world.
And these agencies are getting more and more incompetent because we know we've had discussions for the last week about the DEI hires.
And it was very obviously present there in those individuals protecting Trump that day.
And we're looking at it on television right now, the DEI hire being grilled by Congress right now.
But the point being is that we go to incompetence first.
but I've never ever seen this level of incompetence from the beginning to the end to every single level.
And now they are in full CYA cover up mode.
Now, are they covering up the grand conspiracy or are they covering up the gross incompetence?
I don't know, but that's what they're doing.
Because there is absolutely no reason whatsoever why the FBI cannot be doing a press conference every day
and saying this is what we've found so far.
This is what we've learned to take away some of these conspiracies.
This is how many shell casings were on the roof.
These are not classified top secret things.
These are not hidden classified investigative techniques.
This is old world gumshoe work that they're doing right now.
And there's no reason they cannot be telling us what they're finding.
Have you heard that somebody was wearing a gray suit, went up, took photographs of the scene, came down and they thought it was FBI or Secret Service.
service and he said send this to the ATF.
Yeah.
And that the ATF is somehow involved in this.
Yeah, I've not been able to identify that yet.
But having multiple agents on the ground are multiple representatives from multiple three-letter
agencies is not uncommon, particularly in this time of year.
Every four years, the Secret Service is spread very thin.
I mean, let's be honest.
They have two conventions.
They're up there providing the advance protection security, sweeping, all of those.
things that were going on are supposed to be going on both in Milwaukee and in Chicago. And then you
have multiple candidates. So they're spread out. And then, of course, you know, Jill Biden was just
there 30 miles away in Pittsburgh that day. So there's spread then. So when they are, they call in
tactical groups and representatives and security people from other three-letter agencies to help
supplement. So it's not uncommon that they were there, but they certainly shouldn't be taking
the lead on this, not by any means. And what about the slope of the roof, Steve, and them
deciding that it was too dangerous for an agent to be up there.
If that's the case, if you really are afraid somebody's going to roll off the roof with a 3% grade slope, don't you?
You're a kindergarten teacher.
Yeah.
And you position somebody at the ladder, right?
I mean, just to make sure nobody gets up there.
How is that possible?
Well, first of all, the roof should have not been accessible at all.
This is the first failure.
The first failure is that the advanced teams that come.
in. They do what they call they wedge all the access points. So in other words, if it's a,
if it's a rally downtown, they weld all the, you know, the manhole covers. They actually
put plywood on unmovable ladders. They cover them up with plywood so that nobody can
climb up a ladder. If they're a removal ladder, they get removed. All of these things that
were supposed to have been done that day had not been done. Now, and of course, look,
again, I say, why don't we know on a daily basis?
They don't have to go into the failures right now,
but the FBI, having taken over this investigation,
needs to be telling us exactly every single day.
This is what happened.
This is what the shooter did.
This is where he was.
This is where he went.
If you don't think they don't know every step he took, you're crazy.
They have geo-fencing on his cell phone.
They know every step he took that day.
And there were what they call mast cameras there.
There were, we don't have.
confirmation yet that there were drones or that there were, you know, helicopter cameras,
but we do have overhead shots of the kid coming from somewhere from somebody's camera.
And it wasn't somebody with her cell phone, you know, 3,000 feet in the air.
Thank you so much for everything that you do, Steve.
How is your case coming?
They set a trial date for me in November, November 12th.
I don't think that that'll happen then.
We just recently appealed just last week to the DC-C.
a court about they're stripping my rights to protect myself away from me.
So we are appealing to a higher court so that I can, I can, you know, go about the country safely.
Let me know if you don't get that, I'll get you a burn a launcher.
Thank you.
You should at least be able to protect yourself with that.
Steve, thank you so much.
I appreciate it.
Steve Baker, investigative journalist and Blaze Media correspondent.
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