The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program | Guests: Charlie Kirk & Dr. Robert Epstein | 3/2/20

Episode Date: March 2, 2020

Glenn’s speech at CPAC drew heated reviews from Media Matters, but he dares anyone to actually fact-check it. At CPAC, Glenn saw President Trump’s speeches in a whole new light: Everything’s bul...letproof, the audience is his only friend, and Netflix signed a deal with the wrong president. Turning Point USA founder and president Charlie Kirk talks Bolshevik Bernie Sanders and President Trump the comedian. Glenn believes the coronavirus has been in the U.S. for a while and that it’s here to stay. And Dr. Robert Epstein discusses why he believes big tech will NOT allow Trump to win in November. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, Monday's podcast. Boy, it's a good one today. I just got back from CPAC, and I look at the president and his speeches in a totally different light. I really learned a lot this weekend, watching him and the crowd, what I discovered at CPAC coming up in this podcast. Also, I had the nerve to say that Bernie Sanders and his version of. socialism, which is communism, might be a danger. Plus, the recap of what happened over the weekend, who's in, who's out, Buttigieg, and what's happening tomorrow all around the country for Super Tuesday, our coronavirus
Starting point is 00:00:43 update, and why Dr. Robert Epstein says, forget Russia. Forget Russia. With Google and Facebook, the Republicans cannot win in 2020, unless all on today's podcast. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. So I don't know if you saw
Starting point is 00:01:17 this, Stu, but Yahoo News and what's the other one? The Daily Beast. They've been just writing horrible stories about me at CPAC. And I really want to get into this
Starting point is 00:01:31 because it's all for media matters. That's all this is, is media matters. Trump, ally, cheered by Republicans for speech claiming Bernie
Starting point is 00:01:41 Sanders presidency would lead to another holocaust i think i did say that i think i did say that glenbeck uh a former news fox news pundit and an ally to donald trump that's you wow that's the first time i've been called an ally donald trump doesn't even call me an ally uh was cheered on by republicans during a conference in which he claimed a bernie sanders presidency would lead to another holocaust an incendiary speech full of false claims and misinformation. Now, this is the way misinformation and disinformation spread. You write a piece for
Starting point is 00:02:22 Yahoo News and you make the claim full of false claims and misinformation and then not go over any of those things, not actually say what that really was and take the speech apart. I welcome you to try to Do it, Yahoo News.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Go ahead. It was a, I don't know the Yahoo News room is bustling at this point in the, in the company's trajectory. So I don't know if they'll have time for that one. Yeah, I know. So full of false claims and misinformation delivered to the annual CPAC conference, Mr. Beck compared Sanders and his supporters to Bolsheviks. Yes. Warning of violent revolution could or should the Democratic. Socialist assume office.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Yeah, just because that's what his supporters are saying. These are not grassroots groups of Democrats. They're Marxist revolutionaries who believe in nothing short of complete overthrow of the United States and destruction of the Constitution and the free market system. Beck told an audience of activists at the White House and White House officials at CPAC. And please, let's stop calling them Bernie Bros. Because they're not my brother. They're not something that is funny.
Starting point is 00:03:38 They're Bernie Bolsheviks. They're Bernie Brown shirts. That's what they are, he said, to cheers of support from the crowd. And their revolution will result in death and misery, another holodomor, another holocaust, or whatever we call the next great socialist atrocity. Mr. Beck also suggested that Mr. Sanders' followers, who he falsely claimed are armed with pipe bombs, Molotov cocktails, and guns, are worse than the Nazis. Now, I didn't say they were worse than Nazis.
Starting point is 00:04:07 I said that we have it worse than our grandparents did because our grandparents in World War II, it was clear what evil was. It was clear. And they took it seriously. Now we're looking at Bernie Sanders and going to like, he's just funny. He's like Larry David. And these are Bernie bros. And we're laughing at them. We weren't laughing at the Nazis.
Starting point is 00:04:35 We're laughing at these Bolsheviks. who are indeed arming themselves with pipe bombs and Molotov cocktails. Have you noticed Antifa? Have you seen any of their peaceful rallies? I will say, too, there was a lot of laughing about the Nazis before the Nazis turned into what we now know the Nazis were. When they were early on, they were very much jokes.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Yeah. And were mocked all over the world. Yeah. Including by, you know, the United States and Britain and all the people who wound up taking them very seriously later on. So anyway, I'm not worried about it. I just want to say to both the Daily Beast and Yahoo News, first of all, two stories isn't widely condemned. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:21 That's you and media matters. Any story I have read was Rip and read from Media Matters. We know who they are. Second thing I want to say is tell me what the lies were. Tell me where the, tell me the lies. So you actually said that if Bernie gets like, there will be another Holocaust? No.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Which is, was that your quote? No, no, no. Because that's what that made it sound like. I said, their socialist revolution. I said, these are revolutionaries. And if they get into office, their social, their,
Starting point is 00:05:54 Marxist revolution will lead to the destruction because what they're saying, and I'm not talking about Bernie Sanders saying this, I'm talking about all the people that are in his, I can't even say all. I shouldn't say that. Almost all of the people in his campaign and the ones that have been shown by Project Veritas, they are talking about a violent revolution. They are talking about gulags.
Starting point is 00:06:20 They are talking about killing 20 million people. They can't fact check you on that, though, because that means they'd have to mention the Project Veritas thing, which they've all dutifully ignored. Ignored. Ignored. Which is great. Right. And they've also ignored that they still work there.
Starting point is 00:06:38 And they've also ignored all of the people who are currently paid highest level of the Bernie Sanders campaign that were over and they were consulting the former Communist Party of East Germany. I mean, they are with the communists all over Europe and they are consulting with them. So please, you haven't done your homework. You don't know what you're talking about. And that's giving you credit. I personally think you're for it, but I could be wrong. Let me tell you about, in fact, let me take a quick break early because I want to talk to you about what I discovered about Donald Trump. I'm sitting in the front row of CPAC while Donald Trump is giving his speech.
Starting point is 00:07:28 And I see him and his speeches in an entirely. different light. Now, I saw him in 2016 speak and I saw him live and it just wasn't the same as it is now. And I have learned so much from what I think another door of understanding has opened up for me. And I've looked, I look at him and those speeches, which I've always been like, oh, please don't know. Just stick to the script. Stick to the script. I look at him entirely different after actually sitting and being there. Even if you don't like Donald Trump, you just want to understand Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Go to one of his rallies. You will understand him in a completely new way. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. I was at CPAC this weekend and I understand the president more clear. than I think I ever have. And I have, I have missed his secret sauce, you know. And I think a lot of people are like this who like the president, but they're like, I wish he would stop tweeting.
Starting point is 00:08:58 And I've come to this place to where I do wish he would stop tweeting, but I don't think we would be where we are in a good way if it wasn't for his tweeting. So I'm kind of torn on it because it's his tweets that, that expose everything. It drives the left so crazy that they don't know what to do. And so they just, they prove him right all the time. So while I would like to get rid of his Twitter feed, I would not like to get rid of his Twitter feed at the same time.
Starting point is 00:09:30 I'm really torn on that. The other thing, like when I saw him at the State of the Union, that was a well-crafted speech. that was really good and he was very presidential and if you remember right i said to him if he was that or i said to you that if he was that guy from now until 2020 he'd win not sure that i was right about that and here's why i haven't been to one of his rallies since 2016 and i went to one of his rallies but i went to his rally before he had the the seal on front and on the stage,
Starting point is 00:10:13 and before he had any track record. So I didn't believe the things that he was saying he was going to do. I still don't believe everything. You know, he's like, and this is the greatest weather pattern in the history since the dinosaurs. I still don't. Like, okay, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:10:33 But whatever. That's Donald Trump. Here's what I learned watching him. Donald Trump. has mastered this thing, and it's genuine. I don't think it's calculated. He has mastered this thing with his supporters that he's the president of the United States, and yet he's not.
Starting point is 00:10:59 And here's what I mean by that. Imagine the president of the United States is your best friend. You grew up together. And you would expect the president, you know, you would call him, Mr. President. and if you were in public, he might even say, uh, don't call me. Don't call me Mr. You know, I'm still, I'm still Bill.
Starting point is 00:11:20 But people around him would go, please, when you're in public, please call him Mr. President. And you probably would because he's the president of the United States. But when you're in his living room above the, you know, White House and you're just the two of you, you'd be sitting on the couch and you'd be like, okay, let me tell you what I really, let me tell you what really happened. This is freaking. crazy. Here's what happened. And he'd be watching stuff and you'd be like, okay, so what did you
Starting point is 00:11:48 really think about the debate? And he'd be like, oh, Mini Mike. And he would be making fun of him. That's who this president is on stage. When he's in those rallies, he's your buddy. He's your best friend who happens to be president and he's pulling the curtain back. It's, I've heard people say it is the best entertainment in America, I believe that to be true. It is the best value. It's free. You're seeing one of the best shows I've ever seen. And here's another reason why. Not only is he genuine in those things. He is genuinely funny. When you see him in little clips, you don't get it. When you watch it on TV, it's not the same. but when you're sitting there and you're watching him,
Starting point is 00:12:48 I have, I've known he was a good performer, but I have to tell you, I think he has some of the best comedic times. Netflix, they gave the, what was it, billion dollars or $100 million to the wrong president. They gave $100 million for Barack Obama to make a bunch of documentaries that nobody's going to watch. what I saw at CPAC was one of the best, and I say one of because I can think of two others that are on par.
Starting point is 00:13:20 It was one of the best Netflix comedy specials I've ever seen. He has comedic timing unlike I've seen. And I thought that, I don't know, I just didn't give him enough credit to be that kind of, performer. He was. And I know he was because the guy who was sitting next to me was like, he's looking at you, man. Because he would do something and it would be really, really funny. And he just kind of glance over and look at me and kind of smile like, I know what I'm doing. And I'm like, you do, brother. You do. I mean, it was, it was impressive to watch him. I've never seen, and I chalk this, I chalked this up to arrogance.
Starting point is 00:14:14 I still think he's an arrogant guy. However, not sure that's the right word. I've never seen anyone as comfortable in their own skin as him. Because I watched him walk off stage and I could see him walk off in the back. Okay. and you know when I get off stage it's like who that was work you know what I mean that was not work for him he walked off stage and there was no letdown there was no okay all right it's him and I watched him I was close enough to really watch his body language the guy is more comfortable in his
Starting point is 00:15:03 and who he is than anyone I think I've ever seen. It was remarkable, remarkable to watch. Remarkable. Yeah, that's why it works so well, right? Yeah, it's real. Like people will, in a weird way, that's authenticity, right? Yeah, it is. And he's, he, you know, if you understand the mindset that the people who voted for him
Starting point is 00:15:26 and the people who will vote for him are sick of being told one thing and then they do another, his speeches when he's giving and he's going off the the prompter it was weird because watching him on television you're like stick to the prompter stick to the prompter stick to the proctor stick to the proctor but in live that's not what you're going for you don't care what he's saying on the
Starting point is 00:15:53 proctor it's almost like an interlude is because he he wore the guy sitting next to me said this guy's in his 70s I'm exhausted from the 90 minutes because, first of all, you feel like you're in Catholic Church, you're up and down and up and down and up and down. But it's genuine. It's not like the stupid state of the union speech where it's like, oh, sit down and shut up,
Starting point is 00:16:19 none of you mean it. It's genuine you're up and down and up and down and up and down. And you're laughing so hard. And when he goes back to the speech, you're like, okay, I don't really have to. pay attention here. And it's like he's coming out and he's just, yeah, and then he just stops. And that's what everybody's coming forth.
Starting point is 00:16:44 They're not coming for the speech. That's what Barack Obama missed. Barack Obama didn't have those crowds because he was an image of something. And he gave these beautiful speeches. But he wasn't real. He didn't connect. You didn't want to hang out with. Barack Obama and he didn't have anything.
Starting point is 00:17:05 There's this air of discovery with this president to where you're, you wanted someone who was consistent who would blow the system up. And so he's telling you, okay, here's what I really did this weekend. Oh, you know what really drove him nuts. It was really great. Figured out something else. And I know this to be true because of me. you can feel very alone doing these kinds of jobs.
Starting point is 00:17:35 And there's lots of people that do these jobs and they'll feel very alone. No one is more alone than the president in the United States. No one. Especially since no other president wants to talk to him. You know, they always say, at least I have, you know, I can talk to the other presidents and they get together. Nobody's his, nobody's his buddy. No one. And he is a legendarily small circle, even for a president.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Correct. So that guy is alone. my friend said to me, I'm exhausted. And when he said that, I was looking at the president thinking, this guy could go another three hours. Now, genetically, there's something going on with him. He's very, he's not his age. Okay, he's, he's in good genetic health, I think.
Starting point is 00:18:21 So that goes for stamina. He sleeps like three hours a day. There's something weird happening with him. in a good way. I wish I had that. The thing, though, that I noticed because I'm like this and I know others, he's always surrounded by enemies, always. When you and I see each other, you might get something out of the speech and you may be like,
Starting point is 00:18:49 oh, that was fun, that was great. But I can guarantee you, I get more from you than you get from me. because I get recharged. That's what's happening. The president is hanging out with his friends at those rallies. And he knows he's in a safe space with you. He knows that you're not going to turn on him. And he is getting recharged.
Starting point is 00:19:16 It's, it's his, you're his friend. You're his friend. And he's living in a pretty friendless world right. now that's what's happening that's what's happening and that's what people are feeling that's why he's so loyal to you and you're so loyal to him because he's doing what he said he's letting you in on the secrets he's letting you in and he's pulling the curtain back and he's like everybody thinks they're all that they're not i don't really care that is huge for his fans and you're giving that back to him. The guy, I think the guy's unstoppable. I really do. I think he's unstoppable.
Starting point is 00:20:00 In the election, you mean? In 2020? I hope. Yeah. If it's against Biden, it's over. He took a, you know, pro poll and he's like, let me just take a poll. He said, I did it in South Carolina. I'm not going to tell you the results. Who should I run against? Then he was like, Buttigieg, I don't even know who he is or why he's running. I mean, he went through all of him And he said, I'm only going to ask you about two people, Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders. He said, I want you to cheer if you think it would be the easiest to beat Joe Biden. There was a pretty good cheer. Now, those who think I should run against Bernie Sanders because you think he'd be the easiest to beat.
Starting point is 00:20:42 And the place went nuts. And all I kept thinking was, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, we've had this conversation on the air a bunch of times of which one you'd root for. Yeah. And it's tough because I do understand the argument that Sanders is the guy because I think he would be maybe the easiest one to be. Maybe, maybe. However, if you lose, the ramifications are considerably worse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:07 And that's the thing that I keep coming back to is that like, you know, like coronavirus is a great example. I don't think that's going to turn into something that that changes the election. But something like that that is completely out of the control of the president could change the election and make the other person. and win. And if that other person is Bernie Sanders, you've got a socialist president of the United States. Serious problem. But I will tell you that I, I think that it is interesting to see the way the president
Starting point is 00:21:38 dealt with all of these people over the weekend. And I really, I want to see if I can get CPAC to give me the video because I want to, I want to edit it into like a 25 or 30 minute comedy special because I, think he was brilliant, truly brilliant. If he was any other president, he would get an Emmy for these, because they're TV specials. They really are. He would get an Emmy for Best Comedic Actor.
Starting point is 00:22:09 I really underestimated his calculation and his skill. Really, truly brilliant. Really brilliant. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. We welcome to the program. Mr. Charlie Kirk, Charlie, you're on the Glenbeck program. The name of your book that is coming out, not that you don't know this, called the Mega, the MAGA doctrine, the only ideas that will win the future. Welcome to the program, Charlie Kirk.
Starting point is 00:22:53 How are you, Charlie? It's an honor, Glenn. Thanks so much for having me. Great to talk to you again. Case you don't know who Charlie is. He's founder and president of Turning Point USA, which is this phenomenal group that is spreading not only all over college campuses and high schools, over America, but literally all over the world. It is remarkable, Charlie, what you have put together.
Starting point is 00:23:14 You know, I want to talk a little bit about the book, but I want to get into some specifics with you that are a little different. But let me first get your call on Super Tuesday and what happened in South Carolina. Yeah, it's fascinating, Glenn, and thanks so much for having me on it. It's an honor to be one of the worst politicians I've ever seen in America's history. And it's all about Bloomberg, in my opinion. I, like many others, believed he would at least have some foresacity. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:23:50 No. And it seems as if, you know, money can buy you a lot, but it cannot buy you, you know, charisma, and it can't buy you connection. And so because of that, Biden, I guess, has become the default of the establishment pick. And it doesn't seem that everyone's excited to vote for Biden. It just kind of people are putting up their hand and saying, well, I guess, We'll vote for him now. And so you're going to see a real collision course.
Starting point is 00:24:16 You're going to see Biden, who is going to, who's very controllable by the establishment, and very easy, he will do what he is told by the powers to be. And then you have Bernie Sanders, who is a true revolutionary. He is a true Bolshevik. He believes in Rissauian, the detailed so brief to me. And it's on a collision course. The question is, will it go the way that it went in 2000s? eventually beat Bernie in some, let's just say, questionable ways.
Starting point is 00:24:57 I have my doubts. I actually think that Bernie is better suited, and it's quite nervous, that Bernie Sanders could be the nominee. I have a contrarian view, and I actually think Bernie would be harder to run up against than Joe Biden. Me too. But I think I'm in the minority opinion. Well, you were, you know, I listened to the president's speech this weekend where he said,
Starting point is 00:25:21 you know, just a quick poll, who thinks it'd be easier to win against Biden, and who things would be easier to, and Bernie, everybody was just out of their mind saying that this was so great that he was going to run against Bernie. And I thought, I don't think so. I mean, Biden has, there's no passion behind Biden, none. That's right. And he plays the old school game. You don't know the game of the supporters, the passion, and, you know, we've never seen a Bolshevik campaign for president of the United States. We have no idea what the president could be facing. That's right. And never underestimate how hard it is to run up against. And it's rooted in divisive, victimology, identity politics. And you and I both know. I think that they've
Starting point is 00:26:24 been waiting for a candidate like this. And I do believe they would have a higher turnout. And I do believe that it would be difficult in certain states? Now, do I think it's beatable than any other candidate I could think of? I would rather run against that. I would rather run as an outsider as an incumbent president one of the first times in America. I would embrace that type of candidate. I don't think that would be it against Bernie? No. But it's really, I mean, it's, you know, for people who won't put Donald Trump signs in their yard, I'm going to start making signs.
Starting point is 00:27:05 It just says America versus socialism, because that's what it is. And I think there are people who are like, I don't want to put a Donald Trump sign in my yard, because, but I think those people would put an America versus socialism sign in their yard. You know, because that's what this would be about. And that is a fight that I think. we will win our country's history. And it should be a fire alarm and a wake-up call to every American.
Starting point is 00:27:33 I get that question a lot. Glenn, they say, how on earth is it possible that a candidate like Bernie can be, you know, getting this much traction? I say, have you visited a college campus?
Starting point is 00:27:43 Have you seen what our government school? A couple decades? It flows downstream from culture. Andrew Breitbart told us that repeatedly, and he's been proven correct, that Bernie Sanders is a by-product. He's a, William Jennings' Brian's style marketing, what I mean by that language.
Starting point is 00:28:04 He's trying to use the way. I mean, in the coming years in American politics, you're going to see even more talented politicians. I mean, he repeats himself a lot. He makes very fatal errors. And I think there's a very interesting thought exercise for you, Glenn. Bernie's not an Olenskyite. He does not embrace the symbology or over. Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Where Elinsky was very clear. Yes. And if you're trying to take over a country, do not attack the flag, do not attack the songs, do not be someone who he isn't. And Obama did that. St. Bernie is most rejects the doctrine of Olinsky. So I will tell you that I sat right behind the president in his speech this weekend. And I really watched him. And I learned a lot about his connection with people.
Starting point is 00:29:38 He's running. You know, people used to say, well, he's like the guy at the end of the bar who just says things. I don't think that's right. I think people, his supporters, see him as the president, who's also their friend, who is now telling them and joking with them and like, this is crazy, right? And he'll be the president when he needs to be the president, but he's still on the outside, and he's bringing the average person along with him. And it's kind of like they're in on it together. Does that make sense to you? such a profound point. Yeah, and I read about this in my book, The Maga Doctrine, and I kind of,
Starting point is 00:30:14 I came to this realization. I went to 10 Trump rallies, and I did it kind of on just a total fact-finding mission, trying to do what journalists wouldn't do it, actually witness and see and learn exactly the point that you put forward. President Trump does not just go, which he does, but he goes to actually learn. Yes. He goes to get, he wants to see what's resonating with the people. He has a very, he moves more around the podium than any politician I've ever seen. He'll do that famous kind of side view, or he'll go and look and people's eyes and say something such as, I move the embassy to Jerusalem, and he'll say, the place erupt, and he'll say, okay, got it. Yep. They like that. Yeah, he does. He walks
Starting point is 00:31:06 back from the podium, and then he watches. It's phenomenal. He even said at one point, you know what, I'm going to have to ask that question more often. He was, doing internal polling. Yes, and it goes both ways. And Glenn, I'm sure you noticed this, but at that speech, did you see anyone on their phone? No. Did you see anyone texting, besides taking pictures, of course?
Starting point is 00:31:31 No. Do you see anyone doing the normal stuff you see during speeches? No. They are locked in and engaged. I mean, I have not seen people so focused on a speaker. And I saw this when I went to these rallies, and I wrote this book in Wisconsin, and saw tens of thousands of people locked in on every. word the president was saying, not tweeting.
Starting point is 00:31:57 And I almost equate it to, this was the president giving a shareholder report to the people that put him into office, if you will, as if the American people are the metaphorical board of directors that he believes he needs to continue to report. We're doing. Here's what you can do. And I'm going to keep fighting for you. So here's how I read this. And I read it very similarly.
Starting point is 00:32:23 You know, his speeches, he'll have the speech written. So that's the shareholder report, but then it's almost as if he's your buddy who's the president and you're alone with him. And he's like, let me tell you what else. I mean, this is, you know what else happened this week? You know what else this person said or this person? And you're laughing and you're getting the inside scoop. So he's more of like your friend who's also the chairman of the board. And you're in the shareholders meeting.
Starting point is 00:32:54 but then afterwards he's like, let me give you a real scoop. It's an amazing thing. I totally missed unless you're there watching him. That's exactly right. And I believe that this is the... Because, for example, if the president comes to a Trump rally
Starting point is 00:33:19 and he says something like, oh, what do you think about, you know, Medicare for all people are upset and they're screaming and you're okay. I don't like that. Got it. So do you agree to charge? Charlie, that, because your book is, your book is really, really good.
Starting point is 00:33:36 I'm not going to be able to get into everything. I know we did a special with you Friday, the Friday night special. It's on Blaze TV, just under Glenn TV or GBT TV. And look for last Friday's exclusive. It's about 45 minutes with Charlie on the book, and it's fascinating. You really have to hear it. But the loyalty comes from him. listening to them and, uh, and, and, and also he is, he's not going to betray because I really think
Starting point is 00:34:13 he gets so much out of that audience. He's, it's like the only time he feels safe, I think, which is odd, but it's the only time I think he feels safe to say what he really believes in a room where everybody's going to go, yeah, that's right. You know, it's like they're friends. And so he's not going to betray them because that's who he, that's the only group of people he trusts. And for good reason. I mean, he feels far more comfortable in front of 10,015, 50,000 middle class Americans than at a D.C. cocktail party. Yeah. ...opicating about whatever is the, you know, new creme de la Creme in D.C. That's a president I want.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Yeah. I want a president who wants to spend two hours at CPAC on a Saturday. the same week that he flew back 30, 50 hours round trip from India to represent us abroad, the same week they negotiate the peace in Afghanistan and deals with what I call the China virus, not the coronavirus, but he spends two thousand middle class Americans in CPAC. That's special. And he got more out of it because after the speech, and I've been with him after speeches, you know, a couple times, and I just watch. And you know what he'll say is like, wow, they really love the fact that moved the embassy
Starting point is 00:35:32 He internalizes it. To him is reinforcement for what he's doing, but it's also instructive. He doesn't trust his advisors, and you really go over a lot of this in your book. He doesn't trust the advisors. The advisors that he trusts are either his family members or mainly the people. This is his advisory board meeting. That's exactly right. And from the idea of citizen government goes all the way back to the Bible, of course,
Starting point is 00:36:12 where the idea of the individual being sovereign, but we look at who exactly is in charge of our country, we the people, it's all of us, the individuals. It's a de-emphasis on the intellectual, essentially the intellectual superiority of the ruling class, which I love. I absolutely love it because I believe that 30 years has actually contributed to the rise of progressive, And you can say a lot about President Trump, but he has slowed the rise of progressivism more dramatically than any president of Reagan. And I think for that, he deserves phenomenal, phenomenal credit. The name of the book is the Maga doctrine.
Starting point is 00:36:55 The only ideas that will win the future by Charlie Kirk. It's available everywhere this week. Get it now. If you'd like to hear more from Charlie, just you can follow him on Twitter. He's got a great podcast. Also, we have him for the Friday night exclusive last Friday. It's available on Blaze TV. Really, really fascinating discussion on the strengths and the weaknesses and how this election is going to come down with Donald Trump and Charlie Kirk.
Starting point is 00:37:27 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. What you're about to hear sounds a little nuts, quite honestly. It sounds like a movie. Sounds like it's something that couldn't happen. but let's remember 20 years ago watching television on your phone while your car was driving you home also was only in a movie this is real and the guy the only guy that I know of that is really watching over is a guy who is author editor longtime psychology researcher professor distinguished scientist he's the former editor-in-chief of psychology today uh senior
Starting point is 00:38:24 research psychologist at the American Institute for Behavioral Research and Technology. Also, the founder and director, Emeritus of the Cambridge Center for Behavioral Studies in Massachusetts. He has a PhD in psychology from Harvard, author of 15 books. This guy also
Starting point is 00:38:42 voted for Hillary Clinton. He is not a guy who is saying, hey, you know, Donald Trump is the greatest and they're rigging it against. This is a guy who actually, agrees with the Democratic policies, much more than anything of Donald Trump, but he believes, first and foremost, in the Constitution and that every vote is actually heard and counted and not manipulated. I have tremendous respect for him. Dr. Robert Epstein, explain you
Starting point is 00:39:16 write in your latest article, no matter which weak candidate, the Democrats ultimately, nominate and even with Russia's help, President Donald Trump cannot win the 2020 election. For that matter, in races nationwide in which the projected winning margins are small, under 5% or so, Republicans in general are likely to lose. That is quite a statement. Back it up. Well, unfortunately, those statements are not only true, I'm actually understating the gravity of the problem.
Starting point is 00:39:57 To understand what's happening here, you have to go back to what my Democrat friends call Armageddon Day. You call it Election Day in 2016, but they call it Armageddon Day. You have to go back to that day. You have to look at that one-hour video that leaked from Google right after the election
Starting point is 00:40:22 in which Google's top executives are saying straight out, this is a disaster, this is a calamity, we're never going to let this happen again. You have to look at some of the whistleblowers who have since been fired by Google or have quit, and they are telling us that from that day forward, Google, and to a lesser extent, the other tech companies, made a decision.
Starting point is 00:40:51 we are going to use every single technique we have available to us to shift votes and make sure that Trump is not reelected. So that's all a matter of record. Now, also a matter of record is meticulous scientific research I've been doing since 2013 that shows the power that these companies have to shift votes. And I actually can calculate for each technique how many votes that. they can shift. So you asked, what are the techniques? What can they do? Well, the techniques are unbelievable. They've never existed before in human history. I've been stumbling on them one by one, carefully studying them with tens of thousands of participants in multiple experiments in multiple countries. The techniques are unbelievable. So I can start with the first one I
Starting point is 00:41:49 discovered, which is seeing the search engine manipulation effect, this is simply the fact that if one candidate is favored over another in Google search results, which virtually everyone uses, that shifts votes to that candidate. And people can't see if there's any bias in search results. Almost no one can see it. Correct. And there's no record of it. Yes, this is called, internally at Google, these are called ephemeral experience. We know this from a leak out of Google of emails to the Wall Street Journal in 2018, where one Googler is saying to fellow Googlers, it's hard to say. How can we use ephemeral experiences to shift people's views on Trump's travel ban? So these are ephemeral experiences.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Like you type in a search term, you get some search results. That information you're seeing on your screen is generated just for you, generated on the fly. It affects you because you're likely to click what's at the top, so it definitely has an impact on you. And it disappears, and it's gone forever, and it's not stored anywhere. So that's ephemeral experiences. It's a perfect kind of manipulation because no one can go back in time and figure out what you were shown. It's perfect. And that technique alone can easily shift more than 20% of undecided voters without their knowledge,
Starting point is 00:43:25 up to 80% in some demographic groups. That was just my first discovery. That was way back in 2013. Since then, I've discovered about a dozen techniques like that, which are controlled entirely by these executives at these couple of companies. and you can't counteract what they're doing. It's not like a billboard. You see, you put up your billboard, I put it in my billboard.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Right. You buy your TV commercial. I buy my TV commercial. These techniques are nothing like that because it's one thing if you want to, you know, buy some ads and post them on Facebook or something, you know, but then your competitor will do the same and so on. But what if Facebook itself, what is Google itself? What if the platforms want to support one candidate or one point?
Starting point is 00:44:14 party, you cannot counteract what they're doing. Generally speaking, you can't even see what they're doing. Okay, so I remember as a kid, and you've talked about this, I remember as a kid, they said, they're editing films and movie theaters to make you drink Coca-Cola more. They're putting frames in that show an ice cold Coke, and it makes you want to get up in the middle and go to the refreshment stand, or Disney is putting in secret sex messages in to the that's nothing
Starting point is 00:44:48 nothing compared to to this that's correct those are that's called subliminal influence and it's a real thing but it's very very very tiny it's so tiny that
Starting point is 00:45:02 we've never even passed any laws in the United States to prohibit it the UK does prohibit it but we don't even prohibit it because again the evidence shows it has such a tiny effect but the effect that I've discovered are humongous. For example, for example, there's one which I call DDE, which is a differential demographics effect.
Starting point is 00:45:28 This is so simple. In 2018, on Election Day, Google posted a big message on its home page, which would have been seen on Election Day, 500 million times by Americans. They replaced the word Google with the words, go vote. The vote reminder. And they got tremendous praise that day. Look at that great thing, that great public service, you know, that Google is doing. That was not a public service. That was a vote manipulation.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Because Google knows the demographics of the people who are going to see that. And they knew very precisely, I mean, down to the last digit, they knew exactly how many more Democrats would see that reminder than Republicans. if that reminder was seen by everyone that day, that would have given 800,000 more votes to Democrats than to Republicans. Search suggestions. I mean, I could go on and on because we're actually, we just opened up a line of research on a whole new manipulation,
Starting point is 00:46:32 which is, I think, going to be bigger than all the others. Well, I know we're doing a special this Wednesday night, and you're going to be part of it. This Wednesday night we're talking about, the stealing of elections how secure are our elections everybody's talking about Russia forget about Russia forget about Russia how about this this has a much bigger potential to really end democracy and and quite honestly free will you know there's there's a debate and I see it happening in the the circles of Silicon Valley and those
Starting point is 00:47:12 those kinds of people. And they're now starting to debate what is free will. Is there anything like free will? Does it even exist or will it exist in the future? If you're right, doctor, and I believe you are, because you've backed it up with the evidence, you think you have free will, but you don't. You're actually being manipulated all the time.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Well, yes. And here is a quote from a British economist. who was a professor in the United States when he said this, back in 1957, a world of unseen dictatorship is conceivable still using the forms of democratic government. And that is what we're up against in Eisenhower, 1961, in that famous speech of his, he warned not only about the rise of a military industrial complex, he actually warned about the rise of a technological elite that could. take control over public policy without people knowing. That's where we are now. That's exactly
Starting point is 00:48:20 what has happened. I mean, I have the numbers. I have the data. My work is meticulous in all respects. And as I say, we're just about, we're just about to get numbers on a whole new technique that we've discovered. I'm telling you this stuff is frightening. And the fact that mainstream media and that my friends, the Democrats, are pretty much ignoring what I'm saying. Not all of them, but most of them are. That's outrageous. And that's because they're the ones benefiting at the moment from these manipulations. All right.
Starting point is 00:48:56 So maybe we'll have you back tomorrow because I would like to hear about the new way in, if you will, on what you've discovered. But we also really want, I urge you, if you are thinking, you know what, I want to, donate money. I want to help on something. This is probably the biggest thing that you could do to help preserve the Republic. And that is making sure these tech companies are held responsible. He's the only one doing this. He needs to raise an awful lot of money. I want you to go to my Google research.com. If you have, I don't care if it's $5 or $10,000, please, please consider this as a donation. you go to my googlelresearch.com. That's my googlelresearch.com.
Starting point is 00:49:47 And hopefully we're going to have some breaking news for you on Wednesday about some of this research. But we really need your support and he needs your support financially. MyGoogleresearch.com. All right. So there are two parts of the coronavirus that you really need to understand. The first part is the actual. medical side of it. And on that, I have some good news. On the other side of it is the economic meltdown. Now, the Fed looks like they're going to come in and cut rates again on
Starting point is 00:50:34 Wednesday. They're encouraging the entire globe, all of the central banks in the world, to do the same. This is going to, this is just, A, it's like overusing antibiotics. You can use antibiotics, but if you overuse antibiotics, they become worthless. It doesn't have any effect. I have a feeling that they cut rates and they cut them pretty dramatically here, if not this week, maybe in a couple of weeks. But I think you're going to see some Fed cuts and I don't think it's going to actually do much for the economy. I think we are overusing these antibiotics right now. And that should cause some concern. Right now, the economic impact of coronavirus is not seen yet here in America, except for like the Dow. The Dow was down, what, in four days, five thousand points,
Starting point is 00:51:33 six thousand points. That's remarkable. Remarkable. If you look at the value of the dollar, the value of the dollar is going down because we're going to make more of them. If you look at the Dow, your 401k is down. If you have precious metals, if you have gold, you're way up. I mean way, way up. That should disturb you. When the price of gold goes up, especially in a dramatic way, it means that the world is more unstable because the world always goes to gold when things look like a real crisis is at hand. Please understand the coronavirus.
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Starting point is 00:54:12 The CDC website is now showing 472 total citizens have been tested up from 445 last Friday. Now you're going to start to see the number of those infected in the United States go up. And here's why, because we're now testing for them. Remember, the CDC website showing 472 total citizens have been tested in the United States. 472 people. I believe that coronavirus has been around here for a while, but because our health care system is good, because we're not freaking out about it,
Starting point is 00:54:57 it's being treated like the regular flu. As these tests now become more and more frequent, because today there are 54 labs now having testing capabilities here in the U.S., the CDC has certified 12 regional hospitals to perform their own direct testings as of this week. That's new. So now, if you're going to one of these big regional hospitals, you're going to get the testing done right away. And more and more hospitals are going to come online. That means you're going to find more and more people.
Starting point is 00:55:32 For instance, we now have a fatality rate in the U.S. of 2.5%. well that's really high but that's because we think there are only 400 what is it what did I say 472 tests that have been done so when you have 472 tests how many of those have been confirmed
Starting point is 00:55:58 and two people die well how many people in the United States actually have it right now I think you're going to see these numbers go through the roof yeah I mean because they think it's been just being passed around, for example, Washington State for weeks and weeks undetected. Yes.
Starting point is 00:56:16 And so... Well, that should tell you, it's not so bad here. Right. And, you know, like a lot of people they think are having, they may be passing it without even getting sick at all, showing no symptoms whatsoever. Yeah. Even after the incubation period is over. So, I mean, that being said, there's, in my opinion, no way this thing winds up
Starting point is 00:56:37 anywhere near 2.5 or 2.3% fatality rate when this is over. I'll be stunned if it's above one. But that being said, it's still a lot. I mean, when, you know, we talk about the flu itself, it's 0.1% to die. But when 30 million people get it every year, that number is a big number. So let me give you the stats. This is comparing the seasonal flu to COVID-19. And this is why governments are freaking out or taking aggressive action.
Starting point is 00:57:05 this is versus the flu the case fatality rate is currently 2.3% globally. In the United States, it's 2.5, but I don't believe that number because I don't think we know how many people have it. All right. So the fatality rate is 2.3 globally. The serious complication rate, meaning pneumonia and hospitalization, the common season flu, seasonal flu, is 0.9%. This is at 18%. So 18% get pneumonia or have to go to the hospital. This is why it's so deadly for people who are older.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Requiring an ICU, the common everyday flu is 0.25%. This is 5%. The rate of infection is 1.3. The rate of infection or the R not score, which they give smallpox, I think is like a 15 meaning is very, very virile and spreadable. This is at 4.7. That's a lot. Time that it survives on surfaces.
Starting point is 00:58:17 The flu is four to five hours. COVID-19 is five to nine days. The incubation period, two to three days for the flu, five to 14 days for COVID-19. Natural herd immunity, which is really important. The common flu has that. So in other words, we all kind of have, we're all a little bit immune to it and the different strains might hurt us, et cetera. We don't have immunity towards this. The hospitalization per one million infections for the seasonal flu, it's 9,000.
Starting point is 00:58:51 For COVID-19, it's 180,000 per million. ICUs per one million infections, 2,500 for the seasonal flu. 50,000 for COVID-19 and fatalities per one million infections, 1,000 for the seasonal flu, 23,000 for COVID-19 as it stands today. But again, I think that number will come down. And this is why, of course, you, you of course prepare for the worst-case scenario that this rate sort of continues.
Starting point is 00:59:25 It means adding lots and lots of tests. It means all sorts of different things. So you should prepare to be, you know, incredibly, serious. We just, I think, I think rationally understand that it's not going to be as high as this, thankfully. Yeah. You're going to be, look, we're going to be inconvenienced. And let me just, let me just say this. I've been explaining it for the last few days to people like this and they seem to connect within. First, they freak out. And they think, I'm saying to them, we're all going to die. I'm not saying that. Listen to me carefully. We're all going to get this. All of us. We're all going to
Starting point is 01:00:01 get COVID-19, whether it's this month, next month, this year, next year, five years from now, we're all getting it. Just like we all will get the flu. Exactly right. The flu, the pandemic of 1918, we are still passing around. The seasonal flu is part of that flu, the original flu from 1918. So we've all had the same. the same flu of 1918 we've all had it several times okay incredible it's incredible it's incredible
Starting point is 01:00:38 that virus was introduced in 1918 it was a pandemic well we've all had it and we didn't die the same is true this will be around most likely for the rest of our lives covid 19 is going to be added as a secondary flu now so you'll get this flu the seasonal flu of 1918 the Spanish flu and you might get COVID-19. So there'll be two strains of flu. Now, if it's exactly the same as the flu, that just means we've doubled the amount of deaths every year. 65,000 people died last year for the common seasonal flu. And while we've been talking about COVID-19, 18,000 have died this year.
Starting point is 01:01:23 You're right. From it. So more people are dying from the seasonal flu than most likely will die from this flu. Okay, but it's very virile and as far as spreadable. And if it mutates and we don't have any defense against it, it could be bad. It's just the unknowns plus no treatments. But stop thinking that I can't get it. I can't get it.
Starting point is 01:01:50 I can't get it. You might already have it. And you might get it. And if it's this month, okay, that's probably going to be scary. But in time, we're all going to get it. We're all going to get it. And the world's not going to end. No.
Starting point is 01:02:06 But I mean, you look at the seasonal flu, right? There are vaccines every year that vary somewhat in effectiveness. But about 50% of people get them, right? Which helps cut down the amount of deaths and helps cut down the spread of the flu. Think of the flu happening with no vaccine at all, which is what this could be. Correct. you're going to see, so instead of 50% getting a vaccine beforehand, zero percent get it.
Starting point is 01:02:34 And then add on to that that there's four different medications that treat the seasonal flu. There are zero medications that treat this. So you're going to... It's going to be dicey. Right. Until we get our arms around it. It's going to be dicey. We know the flu sort of burns out in the summer months.
Starting point is 01:02:49 We don't know that about this, about coronavirus. If it doesn't. We believe it probably will, but we don't know. If it doesn't, I worry about serious much more. serious economic impact. If we can get this thing to die down, then we at least have time to get the world back on its feet before it hits again. If it just even just slows down but does not stop as a seasonal flu does, that's going to be
Starting point is 01:03:18 a problem for the economy and we're going to need to have a vaccine and some treatment for it pretty quickly. But this is not Ebola. It's not. One last thing. please stop wearing the stupid masks. Okay. Stop wearing it.
Starting point is 01:03:32 What if it's for fashion? If it's for fashion, then just stop being stupid. Okay. But it doesn't work. Okay. It doesn't work. Even the N95. It has to be fitted to your face.
Starting point is 01:03:46 You know, now they're saying, if you have an N95, great. Then wear a regular mask underneath that. Stop it. Stop it. Okay. You know, you should have had an N95 mask or an N95 mask or an N95 mask. or an N-100 mask long time ago, but in this particular case,
Starting point is 01:04:04 it's not doing anything except stopping doctors where it's really bad from having something that they can put on and take off and dispose of because everybody's keeping them, you know, in their basements and in their bugout rooms. You don't need it. It doesn't work.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Okay. For you, it won't work and it's not necessary. just wash your hands for two minutes several times a day. Use antibacterial soap and stay informed. And you can find all of this information. By the way, the CDC actually came out. The head of CDC and said, okay, enough with the masks. I mean, it was almost hysterical the way they dealt with it.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Please, just stop. You can find all of this information now at glenbeck.com. and here on the broadcast first thing in hour number three at this time every day on the radio program and on glenbeck.com The Blaze Radio Network on demand.

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