The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program | Guests: Dan Bongino & Andy Ngo | 1/13/21

Episode Date: January 13, 2021

Antifa got a Portland bookstore to say it would not shelve or promote journalist Andy Ngo’s new book, “Unmasked." Andy joins to discuss the hypocrisy. The Twitter mob slammed Glenn for using the term “digital ghetto” on Tucker Carlson’s show. But the term’s originator — Jewish Holocaust historian Edwin Black — joins to explain why Glenn used the phrase accurately. Glenn explains how to peacefully protest like Martin Luther King did and asks listeners to pray for and serve their communities in this tough time. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Play the audio from Antifa in Portland. Look, how can you have the other section? How can you want to be? Okay, the manager came out and said your own private property. You can't really be here. Blah, blah, blah. Like, the fuck cares about that. And the bookstore has decided not to sell Andy No's book.

I hope we sell a ton of his book right now, unmassed by Andy No. Andy, how are you, sir? I'm doing okay. Thank you for having me all. You have had quite a year. I have. Speaking of 2020 and just even the past 12 days until 2021, I think my heart is really grieving for the United States, seeing all these people now coming out to condemn the political violence that happened at the Capitol. Which we all do. Which we all do.

And we should. My response is where the hell were you last year? Yes. When thousands of rioters lay siege to my city, when they tried to burn down federal property, federal courthouse, thousands of them came with explosives. They came with starving fires, electric power tools to cut into the building. I mean, the response at times from those who are. crowing the loudest now was at their silence. And in the worst cases, like in the case of Kamala Harris,

actually tweeting out links for crowdfunding for bail funds for people accused a really heinous riot crying. I mean, can you imagine if I or you or Rush Limbaugh or anybody came out and said, hey, there's a fund here to help get these guys out of jail, you know, the worst of the worst, the ones that were in. with, you know, they were going to arrest Mike Pence. Can you imagine what would happen? Well, I mean, we don't even have to, like, really speculate.

You can see that the big tech mobilizes to work with a file out to silence people, and that's why disgrace New York Times reporter Sarah John has been calling for me to be permanently banned from Twitter. They feel really empowered by Trump being silenced everywhere. um, anti-for extremists feel empowered to attack Portland's largest bookstore for the past two days. They actually forced the bookstore to shut down in downtown because they're coming in and making all these demands that they're not doing it enough to ban my book. It's not enough that the store has already acquiesced and said they're not going to stock it on shelves. The people don't want it

on the online catalog either. Andy, um, First of all, let's talk about your book because I want to give you the time to sell as many copies as possible. So tell me about the book first. And then I want to talk to you about what do we do? So let's talk about the book first. On Mass is the I've been working on now to try to uncover what is this violent extremist movement who uses various names, most commonly Antifa. Some of them are more deceptive being used in. call themselves other things.

But all of them have the stated agenda and goal of destabilizing the Republic and actually overthrowing it if you look at their literature. And what was really shocking and fascinating and watching a real time, particularly living in Portland and also going up to Seattle, was how they were actually able, at times, to claim territory as sovereign territory separate from the United States and that the local governments actually allowed, allow them to do that in many ways facilitated the means for that to happen. In the case of Seattle, that Chas, Capitol Hill, Tomasone led to multiple homicides, shootings, Portland, Al-San autonomous zone that would set up. Over and over, we're seeing the same

variables that have allowed for this movement to become a phenomenon, a growing one, ascendant one, these variables are remaining, even with the incoming administration and just with, uh, we're early into 2021, but we can see actually they seem quite empowered. We've had now four riots in Portland since New Jersey below. We had a riot on the same day that the Capitol Hill riot happened and that received no attention when these extremists were using many of the same tactics trying to break into government property. And, um, I mean, it's,

The book is revealing sort of this whole apparatus and how it works and how they're so effective. And it helps to dispel some of these myths, like thinking that there's one big person on top pulling the lever or that they are funded by rich billionaires. It's not. Actually, they're organizing and funding and sources of money laundering. It's happening in plain sight with the aid of Big Tech. and they do it openly on platforms like Twitter and Instagram and Facebook, and they face really no bannings at all. We're talking to Andy, no, the book that you need to buy,

do not buy a digital copy, buy a hardbound copy. It's called Unmasked Inside Antifa's Radical Plan to Destroy Democracy. It has to bother you that the word sedition, and revolutionary or anti-government is being thrown around by people who, I do believe, committed sedition last Wednesday. They were trying to topple the organized government and take things into their own hands. But Antifa has a very long record. I mean, it is in their own manifestos that, I mean, they took to the streets and declared sovereign property, as you just said, away from the United States.

It must sincerely bother you that no one is willing to call them seditious on the left and in the media and in Washington. Well, not only are they not willing to call them seditious. So actually we'll praise them, lavish praise on them, actually. And even those, and they protect them, actually. And one of the reasons why Antifa in Portland have been working overdrive to try to get my book banned into threatened businesses I would sell it

is because I've been very systematic and chronicling the arrest that have happened in Portland. Fortunately, it's still accessible of the public record, but the mugshots that I've been releasing, the charges, the names, over 90% of them get charged. Excuse me, over 90% of them

get the charges dropped. This is a corrupt system we have in Portland. and the local media doesn't release the names and photos of those accused of these crimes. Whereas, you know, you look at the disparate treatment of those who were on Capitol Hill. They're going after no fly lists now, which why can't, if you're going to do that, you have to do that for Antifa. But they won't. They won't. Andy, the mayor of Portland came out.

I think a week or two ago, and said, enough is enough, and we've got to get tough on Antifa. I don't even know if he's sincere in that or what, but what I really think that the people at Antifa, they think that they are in charge and running things, but I truly believe the Democrats are going to treat them eventually like Hitler did the SD or the SA. They were marching in the streets. They were brutalizing. They were brutalized. people. They were the thugs that got things to be pushed through the chaos on the streets. And when their job was no longer useful, he killed them all. I think the Democrats are playing a dangerous game is that they don't really realize what people they're embracing indirectly as allies. I think in the case of, so you let's look at

Portland and Seattle, the Portland mayor, the Seattle mayor, viewed, well, yes, Antifa is radical, but they're rioting in the name of racial justice and social justice. Therefore, let's give them a bit of space to do that. And, well, they flex their hand and they actually claim territory and cause people to actually die. In the case of Portland, the mayor is coming out a little bit posture now. But let's not forget that since he came into office at the beginning in 2017. It was under his watch that this movement exploded in Portland, that this movement turned Portland into the epicenter of American far-left violence.

So I guess four years late, his better later than ever, maybe, but, I mean, they, you know, they didn't have anybody else because he's not seeding everything to them. And actually he was assaulted last week when he was dining in a restaurant. So they're going after him eventually. So, yeah, this is the game that the mainstream Democrats are playing with. And they have had a convenient excuse in sharing, having a shared enemy in the Trump administration.

But those days are limited now. And I can promise that the violence that we saw in 2020 will continue. And it takes a very, very small spot for us to see more interactions like we saw online. year because all the other underlying variables are still there. We're talking to Andy Noe in his upcoming book called Unmast. I urge you to get it. I've got about a minute and a half left for an answer to this question, Andy. But there are a lot of people that will listen to you or to me or others.

And they all like, I know the problem. I know how big it is. And they can see what's coming their way. And that's, I think, one of the reasons. And there are many reasons, but no excuses for violence. But people feel like they are being backed in a corner and they have nothing else to do, which is incorrect. But what do you suggest? What do you?

I think any kind of violence is giving the left exactly what they want. But what can people do? You know, this is a question I've been wrestling with myself in the course of writing this book. and just sort of watching helplessly as my city was burnt and other American cities were burnt to the ground. And I'm not sure if I have an answer for that, sadly. I was and remained a very strong believer in American institutions, but when you're looking at how, let's say at local levels,

how corrupt things can be that allow violence to, political violence to so plainly operate in people who law enforcement actually apprehend or getting their charges immediately dropped just as a matter of policy. And it's not just unique to Portland that you see that. You see that in Seattle, in San Francisco and other. A lot of these places, this is where the prosecutors have been getting their support from George Soros. That's where he puts his money, where the people that are.

Yeah. So I guess I would just say that, you know, conservatives, freedom lovers, we need to get better at organizing. And this, and my criticism is not so much at the grassroots level. It comes from conservatives who are in positions of power, who are so afraid of how the media will treat them that they would do, they would throw their constituents under the bus for, just to have a nice headline, for example, I think.

But I'm afraid that there are dark days ahead of the country. I fear those two. Thank you so much. Andy No. Again, the name of his book that everybody should get, especially since the left really doesn't want you to, they don't even want it to be printed. It's called Unmasked, Unmasked.

And it is all about what's really. happening with Antifa. And please support Andy. You can follow him at Mr. Andy. No, that's NGO. I think he should be a Bond villain. I mean, it's just so great. Mr. Andy, no.

You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Last night, I was on Tucker Carlson, and I said this. Can't have freedom of speech. If you can't have, if you can't express yourself, in a meaningful place. This is like the Germans with the Jews behind the wall. They would put them in the ghetto. Well, this is the digital ghetto.

You can talk all you want. Jews, you do whatever you want behind the wall. Well, that's not meaningful. And that's where we are. That's where millions of Americans will be. So last night, boy, the American Jewish Committee, the AJC, The constant weaponization of history's darkest chapter is deeply offensive and an affront to the six million Jews who perished in the Holocaust. There is no comparison between big tech companies enforcing their community standards and the Holocaust.

Period. None. Period. Period. Apologize, Glenn Beck. I had Jake Tapper said that you're either a moron or an anti-Semite. that anyone who would believe what I said about the digital ghetto and talk about ghettoization is a moron or an anti-Semite. Well, I wanted to get the guy who actually coined the term. He said digital ghettoization. I think it's the same thing. But his name is Edwin Black.

He was on with me yesterday. He has been nominated for a Nobel Prize or his name submitted for a Nobel Prize. or his name submitted for a Nobel Prize, Pulitzer Prize, 11 times, 11 times. I don't think he's a moron. I don't think he's an anti-Semite. I want to make sure I'm in line with the man I think is one of the greatest Holocaust historians alive today.

Welcome to the program, Enwood Black. And thank you for having me, Glenn. So, Edwin, I want to make sure, because, I mean, I think you know me well enough to know how I feel about the Holocaust and Israel and Jews. I mean, I've won the Defender of Israel Award from Sheldon Adelson. It was presented to me by Sheldon and Benjamin Netanyahu. I mean, I'm serious about these issues. Am I wrong? Did I say something out of context here?

No, you didn't say anything wrong, and I think that the criticism you've received is quite ill-advised. I think it's a measure of our times, not a measure of the accuracy of the claim. So here's why you use the word digital ghetto. It's because I coined the term. digital ghetto and algorithm ghetto. And I did that in 2018 as the keynote speaker for Holocaust Day, of the official governor Holocaust Day speaking in the rotunda of the Michigan State Capitol in Lansing. And I summarized my remarks, including the algorithm in ghetto and the digital ghetto for an editorial,

which ran in the Times of Israel and about 30 other papers and history network news. And I was concerned and I remained even more concerned that the activities, oligarchs, are in fact trying to shunt us into digital ghettos. Now, I should mention that a ghetto, even though my parents are Holocaust survivors and they used to think it was a Polish word, is actually an Italian word, a Jewish Italian word, which originates from the 16th century from one of the first named ghettos, and that was in Venice. And the word comes from, it is argued by many that the word may come from the Jewish or Hebrew word get a divorce, but it also means being more separated from.

during the 19th century, the ghettos became much, much worse, and during the Holocaust, they became the first step along the way toward annihilation for the Jews. This, of course, was facilitated by IBM in its 12-year alliance, which I wrote about in IBM and the Holocaust. Several years ago, when I was writing my book, War Against Week about eugenics and genetics, the word was coined genetic ghetto and was used largely by Hadassah and many others who were seeking legislation that would not permit people to take testing of individuals of their genetic background for the purpose of denying them a denying them employment, credit, et cetera. And I believe the genetic ghetto was one of the earliest modernizations, a terrible place, ghetto.

And of course, my parents were in a ghetto. You use this term because that's exactly what I've observed and what many people have observed. I think that there was nothing historic about the criticism involving history in the criticism that you received. I think this is just another byproduct of anything that anyone says is being transmogrified and weaponized against them. I am very concerned about the breach of the concept that you do not use Hitler as a criticism, even though numerous leading Holocaust historians have called Trump a Hitler, and I don't like that. I have to tell you this, we can use Nazis, we can use concentration camps, we can use stormtroopers, we can use Trump or Hitler. to describe the Trump administration, but you can't ever do it.

It is so important to me, Edwin, that we, you know, the phrase never forget doesn't mean don't forget what they did. It means don't forget how we got to the showers. And it's the seeds, unless you pull those weeds up early and you recognize them no matter which side. I mean, I would be saying this. If the Republicans owned Facebook and Google, and they were in bed with the government, and they were silencing people, I would be saying exactly the same thing. These are

the seeds, the weeds that start to spread up. And if you don't cut them off early, it's too late. Am I wrong? Well, I, of course, have seen the misuse of this term by so many of Holocaust terms. I heard Arnold Schwarzenegger the other day call, make reference to a crystal nach, which is something I studied in 1938, which involved the murder and imprisonment and burning of many thousand Jewish lives and institutions. And also had the army and the police standing by doing nothing, doing nothing. Yes, because this was one of the best manifestations, Crystal Nacht of the authorities becoming part of the affliction in the worst way.

Naturally, that started on January 30th, 1933. Everybody needs to take a breath. When we are talking about a digital ghetto, that's exactly what we're talking about. We're talking about people who wish to silence you. We're talking about people who wish to marginalize others. We're talking about corporations that are trying to follow the most, awesome steps of marginalization. You know, and once again, we're only talking about this for the digital means. It was IBM that made it possible for Hitler to perpetrate the Nazis. That does not

mean that this is a Nazi regime or Twitter is part of a Nazi regime. But what it does mean is that high-tech was involved in the worst crime in the history of humanity. I've heard people talk about, well, these are private companies. Google is a private company. Twitter is a private company. They're not private companies. They're public companies. And they are owned by all of us.

And there's a public interest in these companies abiding by the law. and I believe it was Marsh v. Alabama. Am I wrong in about 1946? Yep. The private companies. I talked about that last night. Yep. That stated that a private company cannot engage in illegal activity or improper activity,

regardless of its terms and conditions. Yeah, it can't, when it comes to the private owner, versus the Constitution, the Constitution always must remain supreme. Edwin, we'll have you on again. I'm sorry if I said something out of turn last night. I don't think I did. You didn't say anything out of turn. The out of turn is from my friends, and they know who they are.

Tone down the rhetoric. Tone down the rhetoric. If you have a problem, give me a call. You know who you are and you know who I am. Keep the Holocaust out of this, but we need to look at the steps and we need to understand that right now, people are following the step of identification, exclusion, and confiscation. Jeez. And that's... Those are bad things.

That is where we want it to stop. The purpose of the historian is to look ahead and over. the horizon based on what he has seen come before that's why we are here so thank you very much thank you god bless you you're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program I have done everything I can as much as I possibly can to teach you about Martin Luther King and nonviolent protests and I don't think there's anybody in the media who has talked about nonviolence longer and more in depth on commercial airwaves than me.

Could be wrong, but I bet you almost in American history, that might even be, that it might even stand up to be true. Preachers, certainly, but commercial airwaves, I don't think anybody has. Now I think many are beginning to understand why I tried to lay that foundation. I have told you since September 11th, I have this feeling that you are going to be the group of people that will in the end save the Republic. I've always believed that.

I don't know how it is saved. It might just be preserved in our hearts and in sections. I don't know, but I believe it now. I never wanted us to get to this. I mean, everything I've done is to prevent us from getting, here, but everybody is so politically tied to their side that no one will let their shields down and actually listen to one another. And we're at that desperate point now. You are equipped to save the Republic because you at least hopefully have a fundamental understanding of the

Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and you understand at least a basic understanding of American in history. More importantly, what makes this audience so phenomenal is that it is the most generous and service-minded audience of any show in America and perhaps the world. That's part of what continues to be so frustrating about the capital invasion last week. Because you're being maligned. You, I know who you are. This is the most peaceful, generous, loving, God-fearing, authentic, patriotic audience in America. And you are frustrated and you are tired of being hit in the face and called bigot and everything else, no matter what you do.

I know. I know. I've been called an anti-Semite just in the last 24 hours by everybody unjustly. I get it. You are now being tainted by the actions of complete imbeciles. who do not represent you and I. It's not fair, but that's the hand that we're being dealt. And God's in charge.

He is not surprised. We know the left's current tactics fail in the long run, silencing, canceling, taking away rights. These are the hallmarks of regime after regime, after Marxist regime, on the ash heaps of history. Now, China is still there. because they have taken the so-called free market, which is not free. They took the capitalist system and they combined it with their Marxist utopia. And I don't know what's going to happen to the people over there, especially seeing that our high-tech has joined them to weed out the dissidents.

It's not inevitable that we join them. And it is going to require us to take a stand, just not in the way that most people, especially if they're angry, think is most effective. Look at the ratings of BLM. 78% of Americans at the beginning of the summer thought that they were swell. That number is in the low 20s now. Why? Because violence doesn't work. I don't know if you saw the fellowship of the ring.

But do you remember if you did when Frodo says, I don't want to do this. He's he's lamenting having to face down the evil. And he's just one guy. I'll never forget, because it was right after 9-11 that that movie came out, I'll never forget Gandalf's reply. Gandalf said, So do we all who live to see such times.

But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what we're going to do with the time that is given us. We can't decide what others are going to do. We can't control the dangerous Orwellian darkness that seems to be descending on America. All we can control, read Mansearch for Meaning, is our response and strive to lead by example. And by the way, if you know anyone in your sphere of influence who might be planning to attend one of these armed rallies in the coming days, beg them not to go. Do everything you can to stop them.

That is not the way to take a stand. It does not protect anything that you hold dear. It will endanger the Republic. It is what the other side. Darkness. Watch Star Wars. Yes. Give in.

Embrace your hatred. Don't do it. But Glenn, how do we take a stand? First thing I need you to do today. Help lower the temperature. Next week and beyond. It has been so hard for me not to respond to people on Twitter today who have called me every name under the sun because I quoted the leading Holocaust historian last night on Tucker Carlson. But see, that wasn't an attack on me.

That was an attack on Tucker. If you can scare the guests from coming on to Tucker, you destroy Tucker. That's what they're doing. That wasn't an attack on me. That was an attack on him. Do not vent your anger on social media. At this point, it is probably just going to get your account shut down. I want you to write this down.

I want you to keep this in front of you. Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called. called the children of God. That means something today, much more than it did six months ago. Blessed be the peacemakers, be a peacemaker. You have to stay plugged in, and this is the hard part. You can't disconnect because things are moving too rapidly. You must stay plugged in.

But I want you to reach out to someone in kindness on social. media. Encourage someone. Do not engage with the darkness. Be the light in the corner of your world instead. You need to be a leader for what is to come. And I know I'm asking you almost the impossible. I know you are angry and frustrated and it is gut-wrenching to feel like you're powerless to stop your nation from what you believe is sliding into the abyss. And I believe it too with everything in me. I wish I was wrong. I hope that I am. I pray that I am. But know this. You are not powerless. You are not voiceless. You may be the voice, the only voice that anyone hears. Voices like mine will go away. I am trying to think of how I can.

what I need to share with you before, and God forbid, if that ever happens. Because I cannot live with myself if I was talking about something stupid politically. And I find my voice silenced and then saying, I wish I would have said this. I wish I would have told them this. You wield more power than you know, not because of your vote or being able to call your congressman. You're more powerful than you know because you understand the real problem in America. The real problem in America is not political. It is spiritual.

And until we are humbled, when you get angry and you're like, I'm going to take this into my own, you are not being humble. You think you'll fix it. Everything is happening to us because we are an. arrogant, out of control people. We must humble ourselves. Please, you have the skill and the strength to endure the fiery darts that are going to come your way or already are. But this is a problem with our heart. You cannot reach someone's head without capturing their heart.

And no one is going to capture anybody's heart through violence. start in your own home and then reach out and if you're able serve your neighbor if you can serve your local community you must be a beacon of light in a very dark place