The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program | Guests: Dan Bongino, Elijah Schaffer, & Sheriff Grady Judd | 6/2/20

Episode Date: June 2, 2020

The media calls Trump weak and authoritarian for bunkering down in the White House. But former Secret Service agent Dan Bongino has a better perspective: Did Trump even have a choice? BlazeTV’s Elij...ah Schaffer discusses why piles of bricks are showing up at protest sites. Polk County, Florida, Sheriff Grady Judd went viral for warning looters not to attack suburbs and encouraging residents to have their guns ready. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:19 Don't miss what the movie blog calls something you need to watch. Saving those children is how we all go home. From binge all episodes exclusively on Paramount Plus. Hey, it's Pat Gray, and today on the Glenn Beck radio program, we had Dan Bongino stop by to talk to Glenn about the president's move into the bunker. Does President Trump have a right to unleash the military? Spoiler alert! He does. Also, Elijah Schaefer talks with Glenn about some of the groups he's seeing out on the streets during these riots.
Starting point is 00:00:54 And finally, we have Sheriff Grady Judd from Pol County to talk about his press conference. conference that went super viral. All that and more coming up on the podcast. You're listening to the best of the Glenback program. Well, of course, CNN is talking about the White House bolstering its defenses. CNN reported that it was bolstering the White House defenses like authoritarian countries do. Pat, tell me the last time you heard of 50 Secret Service. agents hurt in any kind of confrontation?
Starting point is 00:01:44 That was the 15th of never. I'm pretty sure. Right? I don't think I've ever heard of that. I never heard of that. And the president doesn't decide when he goes to the bunker. It's my understanding. But somebody who does know this is Dan Bongino, the host of the Dan
Starting point is 00:02:04 Bonino show and a former Secret Service agent that was on the presidential detail at the White House for Barack Obama. Hello, Dan. How are you? Glenn, good to talk to you. Yeah, you're right. That analysis is correct. Okay, so tell us, so first of all, tell me the last time you heard of any story with
Starting point is 00:02:28 50 Secret Service agents killed at any time in American history, or not killed, but injured. Never. I mean, I can recall being at G7s, you know, Unga, UN General. assemblies up in New York, where we vote, you know, there was a WTO where we've had, you know, here and there at perimeters, you've had people injured, things thrown at them, bottles generally. But even overseas where we were over in Georgia, I wasn't on that trip, but I was in the training center at the time, that time where they threw the grenade at President Bush, I don't know if you remember that one.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Even then the injury count of the agents and staff and everyone was far less than what we saw at this insurrection at the White House. Listen, Glenn, that was not a protest. It should have been, and it could have been. There were obviously legitimate grites here that should be aired, but that's not what that was. This is an insurrection. It was a riot. And I can tell you from sources of mine that were there more than credible and unimpeachable, that the attack on the White House, and that's what it was over a period of days, was very organized. It was done using very strategic. strategic tactics. They were using this kind of lift and shift model where they would hit a certain point, get the officers there, get the Secret Service uniform division there. And then when they got them in one spot, they would move to another spot trying to sense the Achilles heel. This is not the stuff, Glenn, of a bunch of like, you know, two-bit criminals who just found themselves at the White House on a Saturday and Sunday night. I want to be crystal clear. This was organized by Antifa terrorists. It's not a joke. It's not hyperbole. These were people committed to an insurrection that was thankfully put down.
Starting point is 00:04:15 So, Dan, let me go, before we get back into all of that, let me go back to the other. They're saying that, you know, he was a coward for hiding in the bunker, et cetera, et cetera. Does the president have a right to say no when the Secret Service says, you have to move now, Mr. President? Well, let me give you the textbook, and then let's throw out the textbook and talk reality. So the textbook answer to that is no, he doesn't have the right to say no. The Secret Service has the authority under Title 18 U.S. Code 3056 to protect the president, however they deem necessary. Here's the real world. He's the president of the United States.
Starting point is 00:04:58 And I always refer back when questions like this come up to that dopey movie. Was it the American president or some? Michael J. Fox is the chief of staff. And March he says, well, I want to get out and jump out here and say hello to people. And he says something like, you know, there's no jumping, Mr. President. If the President wants to get out and jump out and say hello to people, he's going to do it. I can't tell you how many times we told President Bush and President Obama, it's probably not a good idea that you do this.
Starting point is 00:05:21 And they do it anyway. I mean, I can only recall one situation where they shut the president down when they told them we are absolutely not going to do this. So, you know, if he says, I'm not going, they're probably not going to take him. Having said that, in a situation like that, where there was very little doubt amongst those people they were trying to storm that White House, I think they would have overrode in that. So, Mr. President, we're really sorry. You can punish us later for this, but we've got to go. He did not make that call. Dan, you know that I'm protected by Gavin DeBacker and associates, and you know who they are, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:05:58 And there is a difference between when they say we highly recommend, we really, don't want you to and I can override them but there are also times that I have been where they have picked me up by my pants like the president and thrown me into the car and said I'm sorry you're not doing it or we're not protecting you we will not guarantee your safety on this we won't protect you and we've gone to war zones and everything else but there's been a couple of times where they said no and I had no choice unless I wanted to fire all of them and which, you know, I didn't. The president can't fire the Secret Service.
Starting point is 00:06:41 They do have the right. And if 50 Secret Service men and women were injured, they're at the White House trying to protect the White House, I got to believe they walked in and said, I don't care what you're saying, Mr. President. 50 Secret Service agents have just been injured. You're in the bunker. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:00 And, yeah, you're right. And just to double down on what you're talking about here, Number one, the president is one of the few protectees who cannot what we call the Secret Service sign off. Other protectees, foreign dignitaries, they can sign off. They can literally sign a piece of paper saying, I don't want you guys here, whatever. I'm going out to party on a Saturday night. I don't want you around. And the Secret Service can say, okay, there's a paper.
Starting point is 00:07:26 They sign it, and that's the end of it. The President of the United States cannot do that. He has no authority, even himself, to sign off. None. zero, number one, and number two, you're right. Oh, you have a private security team is very good, but they have professional liability standards too, Glenn. If you said, listen, I want to walk into this serial murderer's house on a Saturday night while he's high on drugs,
Starting point is 00:07:48 and I'd like you guys, and they say, hey, that's a really bad idea. They're not going to let you do it because they'd be humiliated when you get murdered. They'd be on the front page. Correct. Don't be security firm. Let's Glenn back, get himself killed. They're not going to do that. So in a situation like Sunday, Saturday night, where we're looking at a,
Starting point is 00:08:04 a darn insurrection at the White House. I don't blame the Secret Service one bit for saying, Mr. President, we really got to go. And shame on the media, by the way, for painting this as some kind of situation where Trump ran like a coward. You know what he said yesterday? He said, fellas, hold my beer. You think I'm going to sit in the White House? I'm going to take my ass. I'm going to show you the stones I do have.
Starting point is 00:08:24 And whether you like this guy or not, I'm going to walk across the street in the middle of a riot in the middle of D.C., and I'm going to show you whose streets these really are. They're ours. American people. They're not the streets of the riots. He's getting heat for that because they used, they're actually calling tear gas chemical weapons, that he used chemical weapons on that crowd of protesters without any warning,
Starting point is 00:08:50 which we know for a fact is not true. We know people that were there, and they say that there were two warnings issued. Warning, evacuate the area, evacuate the area. uh... or or you will be uh... confronted with tear gas so they warned people uh... and the president if he's got to go someplace he's going someplace and i i don't think that was a problem at all i i don't read yeah and i candidly don't give it rats ass anymore with the media
Starting point is 00:09:23 says they're actually putting the president of the united states and government figures in danger me oh my gosh damn that's rough to say is it really uh let me tell you some if they did not report on this this bunker incident and it just either kept the lid on it or reported on it responsibly saying, hey, the Secret Service made a security call to remove the president to the bunker. Instead of writing stupid articles like the president runs in shame to the bunker, which is totally false and made up, Glenn, ironically by writing like that, they incentivize the president to go out and say, listen, now we have to do some kind of symbolic show of course or we're
Starting point is 00:09:57 going to lose the White House. They don't understand, like, because they're not smart. They're morons. These are imbeciles with double-digit IQs who are only in this to aggravate an already bad situation. And it's a shame because they're really incentivizing this kind of stuff to happen. They don't even see their role in it. So, Dan, you came to me when I was on Fox. Can I tell this story?
Starting point is 00:10:20 Have we told the story before? Of course. My gosh, that was so long ago. That was great. So long ago. Yeah. And you were there at the White House during Obama. and you came to me during a show, and I remember coming over to shake your hand and say hello, and you said in the break, I'm leaving the White House because I'm watching you, and I know I'm seeing, you know, everybody watching in the White House, and I know what you're saying is true.
Starting point is 00:10:50 You were there. Can you talk a little bit about Obamagate and, you know, what we're probably not going to even care about at the end of this summer? that we should care about. I think I said on your show, a video, I'm pretty sure because the thing went nuclear. This has to be maybe eight, nine years ago. I'm almost positive as your show. Where I warned that the problem with the Obama administration was
Starting point is 00:11:18 he was surrounded by sycophants who wouldn't tell him what he couldn't do. And when you combine that, and you may say, and listen, to be fair here, every administration has sycophant. You may say, even the administration now. Everyone does. The problem with the Obama administration, I think the warning I gave in your show is, when you combine that with this toxic stew, Glenn, of media permissibility, where the media, in contrast, the Trump, with Obama, everything he did was okay.
Starting point is 00:11:44 You invite a Lord Acton scenario where power corrupts, and what do they say, all great men or bad men, you have a bad guy, Obama with a way, I think, bad motivations, who had no control mechanism. There was no choke points for his behavior. And Obamagate, at the end, I had left the Secret Service by the time Obamacate was happening. But from my sources and the books I wrote about it who were feeding me information about what happened, my FBI guys, it is the biggest scandal in American history. And it's a direct result of the media refusing to call out the President of the United States, rebusing and weaponizing the powers at his discretion. It was a shame.
Starting point is 00:12:22 What he did is disgraceful. So is there a possibility that it is the same deep statement? that is supporting. I mean, I look at, you know, George Soros and the State Department and the riots going all the way back to the Arab Spring that they helped produce and topple different governments. This is taking the same kind of course. Is there a chance that the deep state is involved in this at all? You know, it's funny. We didn't plan this.
Starting point is 00:12:56 I didn't talk to you before the show, but I'm actually writing it. different book. And I don't even want to, I'm not even to tell you that because I'm not interested, but I just want to put this out there. I'm done with it. I actually finished you. And the book is about following this deep state money trail. And it's interesting you bring up sorrows. You know, I mean, oh my gosh, you can't talk about. So no, no, I will. I'll talk about whatever the hell I want. You could kiss my ass. I'm not listening to any left this media narrative. No, I'm dead serious. Like, I give exactly. No, I know you are. No, I don't. I mean, I'm not going to these media matters lunatics.
Starting point is 00:13:29 I actually have the document at a money trail showing that the same people, Glenn, in this deep state that the left says doesn't exist, involved in the spy gate thing and the advancement of false narratives emanating from Ukraine and elsewhere, Trump's the spies, colluding with the Russians, you know, he's from the gold finger James Bond movies. Oh, my gosh. The same exact people were involved in the impeachment hoax. The same people, it's on paper. Just look at the documents. It's on paper. But the media will never tell you that story because when you bring up Soros, oh my gosh, George Soros, oh, this is, you can't bring up. No, I'll bring up whatever the hell I want. And that's in the boy. So your assertion there is entirely accurate. It is the exact same
Starting point is 00:14:13 over there. Fingoprints are on everything. And it's really gross that the media won't get their heads out of their collective rear ends and report on this. Well, I think they're part of it. I think they, I think they would rather have a world with
Starting point is 00:14:30 antifa than a world with Donald Trump and people who go to church. That's the way it feels at least. Dan Bongino. If you've seen their covering for them, I mean it's gross. I know. I know. Dan Bongino, great to have you on. You can find him at bonjino.com, B-O-N-G-I-N-O-com, Bonino.
Starting point is 00:14:48 And follow him at D-Bongino on Twitter. Thank you so much. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. We go to Elijah Schaefer, who has been down with these, these rioters for a long time he's been following Antifa. And when you were up with Antifa and you were watching them beat people, et cetera, et cetera, you told me at the time, Elijah, that the police would just mysteriously disappear. That's because the police chief and the mayor are for Antifa, seemingly.
Starting point is 00:15:39 are you seeing a difference between other protests and, for instance, the Dallas police, as opposed to the Portland police? Yeah, I think one interesting aspect, and I could be correct if I'm wrong, but Andy, you know, a journalist has talked to me about how, like, the mayor of Portland, similarly is the police commissioner. and so some of these mayors have an uncanny amount of power and influences we just heard over the police department, whether indirectly by directing anger from their populace towards them and misrepresenting them or directly by telling them that they need to stand down and not do their jobs. But I have absolutely watched not where that police were overrun in cities like Portland over the years. I watched as they've just begun to gain control. while I don't have a radio, I watch them answer calls, get back on their trucks, in their cars, and leave,
Starting point is 00:16:40 and watch the protests and riots turn violent, and the vandalism increase when they had the opportunity to stop it in its tracks. So what is your take on this, Elijah, as you've watched these guys, I mean, it's really important for top-down, bottom-up, inside out, that theory that I've been, you know, explaining for the last 15 years, that you got to have people in power. This is the way they flipped countries to be communist. You have to have people who are communist in power, but they don't necessarily say they are, but they have enough control to where they can move the system. You have to control the attorney generals and the prosecutors. We know that George Soros has been doing that for a while now. and you have to have these uprisings in the streets.
Starting point is 00:17:35 No one prosecuted. No one paying any price until the people just stand up and they say to the federal government, help us, help us. Nobody's helping us. And that's when you flip the country to a Marxist utopia. Does that sound too crazy at this point, Elijah? No, you know, it doesn't, Glenn. And I think what's really important for your listeners to understand is that I have been documenting groups like Revcom, revolutionary now in Los Angeles, for years.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Just recently, I have them on camera. They're calling for a revolution in the streets. They are yelling and taunting, and they are completely calling on people to revolt. And, you know, people laugh at me. Oh, why do you pay attention to this group? Why do you pay attention to that group? And I go, because they are literally calling for an attack on our country, internalizing it, and calling for violence in our streets.
Starting point is 00:18:37 And I take people seriously that call for threats of violence in our streets. Well, it looks like they're not laughing anymore because groups like that are working tirelessly in large cities like Los Angeles to wreak havoc. And they're getting at least the first taste of the revolution. And if we've seen this escalation in just the last couple years where the media laughed at me, mocked me, called me a propagandist. for saying that these were viable threats to now just two years later, they're saying, oh, actually these people are burning down our cities. I wonder if the next step, as we're seeing in the protests last night and riots, that violence in just three days have escalated, so we went from two years to three days.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Who knows what's going to happen in the next 24 hours? So tell me what you know about the BRIC situation, because I've heard two stories on this, and we're close to some information that I hope to be releasing this week. But at this point, until I have that information, I don't know if it's just a coincidence. And, you know, Antifa happens to know where the construction site is. And so they say, hey, everybody meet here.
Starting point is 00:19:51 But I've been around a while now, and most construction sites are fenced off. So you can't go steal a person. pallet of bricks, which is a lot of money. But these organizers are meeting at places where there's these palettes of bricks. And they appear to be part of a construction site, most of them. But is this a coincidence or do you think this is coordinated? That's a really important question. And I want to make sure I only speak to what I know here so that we don't conjecture.
Starting point is 00:20:25 I went ahead and spoke to somebody who worked in bricklaying for quite some time, and they confirmed with me that construction sites do not leave bricks out, that they're a commodity that is often stolen. They're also completely sealed, often with wired bars when they're left, that continue to keep the package in place after it's brought off of a flatbed. But, you know, Glenn, that night when I made the claim that it was organized, that people were leading people to pallets of bricks, you know, I was mocked online and ridiculed as if maybe, just maybe, I wasn't trying to start a conspiracy.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Maybe I was myself shocked to realize that somebody was looking to increase the violence and the vandalism. And I saw pallets of bricks in places where there was not construction. And I uploaded video footage of even protesters acknowledging, in filming, like, oh, this is so fishy. I see this. This is not a construction around here. These bricks are here. and there is footage right now online, and your audience can look it up,
Starting point is 00:21:27 of right near protests, flat beds of trucks just coming and just dropping off pallets of bricks the day of the protest, while there's caught cars all around. And that's what's most suspicious to me. Caught cars are there while a flatbed truck goes into a parking lot right next to the protest
Starting point is 00:21:42 and drops off two giant pallets of bricks into the middle of a parking lot. I mean, if that doesn't breathe suspicion in the eyes of any smart and intelligent, American of why bricks were being dropped off in an inner city in front of officers while a riot is ensuing, then I don't know what would. I wonder if the Teamsters could answer that question. Teamsters would know who those truck drivers are.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Teamsters would know what the usual is. I wonder if they would answer that question. Yeah, I absolutely implore anyone with information, whether you work in construction or you have background to try to bring some clarity to the national conversation. And that's why, for the first time, I think Americans are not only realizing that it's up to them to protect themselves, whether it's, you know, from deadly force that seems to be escalating, where police cannot help them. You know, one pretty liberal individual on Twitter said that he had called the police because of an altercation between rioters and his neighbor. And the police said, the city is under attack. It's on you right now.
Starting point is 00:22:51 do what you do what you need to and he goes is this really america and yes this is america in a good and a bad way in a bad way because we're seeing our own governments that have been falling apart for years unable to protect us but on a good way because america has always been by the people and for the people it's up to you to protect yourself and right now not only physically but information wise you cannot trust the media and we need you to help so if anyone knows and has information please contact you know myself elijah shaffer online or this program and help us bring bring to light the evidence and the deception of people who are trying to pretend like this is all just random and somehow every city in America is just burning
Starting point is 00:23:32 accidentally at the exact same time. Elijah, how is, how do you think Trump is being viewed by the average American and the Trump supporter? Because I have heard many Trump supporters saying he's being weak. He's not reacting. I know that Tucker Carlson did a monologue last night where he pretty much called him weak. What is your thought? You know, Glenn, I have been a very, a very big supporter of the president of the United States since early on, since I saw him,
Starting point is 00:24:11 continue and completely ignore the advice of so-called, quote-unquote, wise counselors, and instead to be to the heart of the American worker and people and just act like a run-of-the-mill man who doesn't take any crud from people. You know, I don't think any leader, just like George Bush during 9-11, really could fully understand how to respond to this because he's in a very precarious situation. Everyone already calls him racist and fascist and, you know, compares him to, you know, to Adolf Hitler. And so essentially, no matter what he does in the situation,
Starting point is 00:24:48 I know as a man, you're going to be labeled in a very negative light. If you're tough on the violence, then you're racist. If you're not tough, you're weak. But I think everyone needs to give him a little bit of time. I do think that his speech was about three days too late that he gave, but it was warmly welcomed in my understanding. And I would hope that as he speaks and says that, you know, that America is a country of the rule of law, that he would completely stand behind that and that he would
Starting point is 00:25:18 set an example on a precedent. But weakness is not the right word, but maybe just a little bit delayed. And perhaps, just perhaps, that could be because of bad counsel from people like Jared Kushner. All right. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. That's Elijah Schaefer. You can follow him at Elijah Schaefer.com. Is that the web address? I'm looking for your web address here. Well, you can go to YouTube.com slash slightly offensive or find extended content as well at blazedTV.com slash slightly offensive. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
Starting point is 00:25:58 I have to play some audio from yesterday. This is Sheriff Grady Judd. He is the sheriff of Polk County, Florida. I want you to listen to what he said in a press conference. We have received information in social media that some of the of the criminals were going to take their criminal conduct into the neighborhoods. I would tell them if you value your life, you probably shouldn't do that in Polk County. Because the people of Polk County like guns, they have guns. I encourage them to own guns. And they're going to be in their
Starting point is 00:26:39 homes tonight where their guns loaded. And if you try to break into their homes to steal, to set fires, I'm highly recommending they blow you back out of the house with their guns. So leave the community alone. I lived in Polk County, I think. I lived in Polk County, Florida, and I did not get a chance to vote for him, but I think I would have. He was overwhelmingly elected sheriff in 2004, reelected in 8, 12, 16, and I'm guessing he's going to do well the next time should he decide. to run. Welcome to the program, Grady Judd. Thank you very much. And certainly I want to continue serving the people of Polk County and
Starting point is 00:27:31 keeping them safe and supporting them, why they do the right thing. So, Grady, are you, did you see something in the, you know, in your county that disturbed you, or is this just what's happening all around the country? And they've been saying they're coming to the suburbs. So you were just making sure everybody understood. The county is about 690,000 people, and as you can imagine, we have a large sheriff's office here, and our intelligence group picked this chatter up off of the different Facebook or social media post.
Starting point is 00:28:14 I don't think it was on Facebook. It was another social media. We weren't able to verify it at the time of the press conference. But we take all of those threats serious until we can discount them. And we weren't able to discount it because we saw it from more than one source. So I was responding to a reporter's question, but at the end of the day, that's to me common sense. I mean, it's gone viral. I looked last night, and there was 2.5 million views.
Starting point is 00:28:47 But think about this, Glenn. all we said what's what every citizen in the United States has a right to do, your home in your house and looters take to the neighborhoods and they're going to break into your home to rob, to steal, to set your house on fire, why wouldn't you blow them out of your house with your firearm? You've got the right to protect yourself, your family, and your home. So to me it was just common sense. I find it interesting, Grady, that there, has been such a movement to get guns out of the hands of average citizens. And the same people who have been trying to do that are now in the streets causing all of this
Starting point is 00:29:32 ruckus and saying we're coming to your house. You think it's a coincidence or are these things coordinated, do you think? I think it's absolutely coordinated. You know, it's pretty basic, but, you know, the old saying, when you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns. the reality is I've been in law enforcement my entire adult life. Outlaws, criminals, thugs, they don't pay any attention to rules. If they did, we wouldn't have criminal conduct.
Starting point is 00:30:04 And the criminals always have guns. So that's what shocks me about this. The criminals always have guns. So if the criminals have guns, why in God's Green Earth wouldn't we want law-abiding citizens to at least be able to arm themselves, to protect themselves and their family. And there are areas in this country. If people didn't have guns in their homes, they wouldn't be safe. So what we're saying is, look, when the criminals start obeying the law,
Starting point is 00:30:38 when the criminals start doing what's right, then come back to us and talk about gun control. I don't think we'll ever have that conversation. I don't think so either. I still wouldn't give up my, I still wouldn't give up my gun. I mean, I have a right to protect myself, and I think we're seeing now why there needs to be magazines that hold more than seven bullets. I mean, look at some of these beatdowns that are happening in the cities. There are, you know, 10, 12, 15, 20 people that are after one person and just beating them. I mean, you know, I have a right to live, and I have a right to my own opinion, and I have a right to say it.
Starting point is 00:31:17 you have a right to protest, but not to beat me to death. At least give me a shot of saving my own life. And that's absolutely correct, but I can assure you of one thing, that that second, third, fourth, fifth person, when you modify that first person's behavior with a gun, the others decide to go the other way. And when you can't be safe in your home, you can't be safe any place at all.
Starting point is 00:31:46 but you have the right, especially in the state of Florida. We have beautiful laws, not only castle doctrine laws, but we also have a stand-your-ground law. And it's really been taken out of context. Our stand-your-ground law doesn't mean that you can enter into a conflict and stand-your-ground. The intent and the pure purpose of that law is you're a law-abiding citizen, behaving, walking down the street, minding your own business, and someone comes up to attack you, to beat you down with, they have a knife, they have a gun, certainly you have the right to protect yourself. You don't have to run from somebody that may be faster and certainly wants to assault you.
Starting point is 00:32:37 And to me, it's common sense. And when you look where the problems are occurring, traditionally it's in the communities that have stopped the good people from doing what's right, possessing their firearms, having easy to access, conceal weapons permits, and obviously then the criminals take over. So where do we go from here, Sheriff?
Starting point is 00:33:04 What should the sheriffs and the police forces around the country be doing right now to make sure they stay on the right side and their cities and their counties are protected. Glenn, I'm glad you asked the police are nothing but a microcosm or a reflection of the community. When you saw these police agencies around the country that weren't appropriately responding to protect lives and to protect property, that is a reflection of the government. That's a reflection of the decision makers. The police officers are the enforcers.
Starting point is 00:33:44 They don't create the laws. They just obey the laws and enforce the rules. So when police officers are told to stand down, let them burn the building, police officers stand down and let them burn the building. When police officers and other communities are told, you're not going to let them burn out our stores, then that's exactly what the police can do. We have the resources to protect people.
Starting point is 00:34:11 property and to protect their lives. But if the leadership of the community, the mayors, the city commissioners, the governors, the state legislators, if they capitulate, if they back up, threat against them, if they tell the police to stand down, then you get what you get. There's a horrible video back in the Baltimore riots where the police were told, do not engage these people that are tearing up and burning this store. And there was certainly enough police officers there to do it. So you have to not look at the police. You have to look at the leadership and the management of the city or the community.
Starting point is 00:35:03 And how do you think the police and sheriffs are handling it so far? I mean, between COVID, there were some really dicey things that were happening around the country with COVID. And some sheriffs, mainly sheriffs, but some police officers, stood up against some of the draconian things that were happening in the state. How do you think the police are handling it? We've got a lot of challenges on our plate right now. COVID is certainly a problem.
Starting point is 00:35:32 We've got high unemployment. We've got folks who have an environment where they can legally wear masks all the time and be in positions to, one, protect themselves with a mask, or two, hide themselves with a mask, they rob. So when you add to that, this environment that we have here now, that is absolutely totally shocking. First and foremost, no rational, reasonable police agency, police officer could ever defend the conduct of that police officer in Minneapolis. That was totally horrific. There's not enough words to talk about that. I mean, there just is not adequate words.
Starting point is 00:36:17 never has a police officer been trained in a police academy to put their knee on someone's throat. Regardless of whether they're resisting or not, you don't kneel down on someone's throat. So let's set that aside for a second, because we all agree that that was horrific and wrong, and in this community, had that police officer done that, I would have had him in jail before sundown. but that doesn't give people a right to riot, to loot, to steal. Yes, you want a protest. What's the difference between a protest and a riot? A protest is when, and we had one Sunday, where we had four or five hundred people
Starting point is 00:37:02 show up to protest against the death of George Floyd. It was healthy. It was good. There was all folks there. There was young folks there. There were children. there, and they protested that horrific event. It was a wonderful event. They exercised their First Amendment rights. It was so passive. The local police department didn't even visually
Starting point is 00:37:27 have law enforcement officers in the crowd. What happened? The protesters then went home. But from there, the anarchist, the rioters, they marched down toward the police department with some protesters. And after, they protested at the police department, then those protesters went home, and that left the anarchist, and it left the rioters. And that's the people that we had problems with in this community. The department called the sheriff's office, and we all mustered together, and we pushed them out of the intersection after they had torn up one building and damaged one car and injured one set of people, which, by the way, was one of the protesters that.
Starting point is 00:38:18 they got mad at. But that's the difference. Protesters are exercising First Amendment rights. Rioters are taking advantage of the situation in order to loot, steal, hurt people, or create absolute chaos. And that's why it's important for police agencies to be allowed to go in and pick the dissidents out, the troublemakers out, that's inciting the riot. When you get him out, then you were left with a protester. Sheriff, it has been great to talk to you. Thank you for your insight. Thanks for the courage for standing up.
Starting point is 00:38:59 And my best to all of your fellow officers, and I wish you nothing but safety and health. Thank you so much, Sheriff. By the way, you should keep our, you bet, we should keep our policemen, first responders in our prayers. I can't imagine what it's like to go to work. especially in a city that is hostile to cops, and you're one of the good guys. We have two cops in Vegas in the hospital. One of them seriously injured.
Starting point is 00:39:31 We have four in St. Louis in the hospital. And two cops last night were run over in Buffalo, Ohio. How many is it going to take before America says enough is enough? Because I can't believe any honest, decent America American is with the looters at this point.

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