The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Dave Isay & Jeffy Fisher| 1/8/19

Episode Date: January 8, 2019

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Okay. So on today's podcast, I think you're really going to like it. We hit a couple of things. One, just the pros and cons of the president saying, I'm going to use an executive order or emergency measures to be able to build the wall on the border. I think the consensus is that we agree with the goal. We don't like the route. And that was surprising when we took it to the phones and talked to people all over the country. It was pretty unanimous, was it not?

Yeah, I think so. It's a principled audience. And so it's going to be interesting to see what the president actually talks about, and we'll be able to talk about it in more detail when he actually goes through it tonight. Also, Jeff Fisher, who's been with this show for about 20 years, had a heart attack over the holiday. We talked about his fatness, his smoking, and his widowmaker heart attack. He is one of the very few that have a heart attack this massive and actually live.

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All right. What would you say if I told you that officially we were already under a state of emergency, 28 different states of emergencies? They never, ever go away. You can't. Once you declare a national emergency, the president does, and I make no mistake, I believe he has this power to do it, and I think it's an important power for the president to have. But the way it's designed, it never, ever goes away because it takes both houses to just majority vote, no, but then it goes to the president, and he has to veto. Well, he's the guy who just proposed it. So he's not going to veto it. or he is going to veto it. Then you have to have two-thirds of Congress overturn his veto. Well, that almost never happens.

And in fact, in history, it never has happened. But if you look at the national emergencies that we have, they all kind of fall into the same category. Who was the first president to declare a national emergency? Can you even guess? it was Jimmy Carter and it happened in 1979. So we went from 1791 or 1789 to 1979 without a national emergency. We went through World War I, World War II.

We went through the Civil War. No national emergencies. these. 1979 was the first, and I want you to listen to the pattern, blocking the Iranian government property, November 14, 1979. So that's what Obama, when he flew all that cash back, that's what Obama was usurping now. He was giving back their property. But that still remains.

We're still under a state of emergency blocking property. So Carter did it against Iran. And then, you know, the bill. billions of dollars we sent over there was essentially the other side of that transaction. They were complaining about how we kept their stuff all this time. Correct. But we never got rid of the national emergency. Poliferation of weapons of mass destruction, November 14th, 1994.

So the next guy who did it was Bill Clinton. Now, listen to this. So the first president to ever do it, 1979, was Carter. He only did it once. Then Reagan never did it. Bush never did it. Then 1994, Clinton gets out his pen. Proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. Then prohibiting transactions with terrorists who threatened to disrupt the Middle East peace process in 1995.

Prohibiting certain transactions with respect to the development of the Iranian petroleum resources, 1995. Also in 1995, blocking assets and prohibiting transactions with significant narcotic traffickers. Then in 96, regulations of the anchorage and movement of vessels with respect to Cuba. Then in 97, blocking Sudanese government property and prohibiting transactions with Sudan. Blocking property of persons who threaten international stabilization efforts in the Western Balkans. That's 2001. So now George Bush is getting into it. And here's where it really picks up the speed.

Continuation of Export Control Regulations, August 17, 2001. declaration of national emergency by reason of certain terrorist attacks, September 14th, 2001. Then September 23rd, blocking property and prohibiting transactions with persons who commit, threatened to commit, or support terrorism. Then blocking property of persons undermining democratic process or institutions in Zimbabwe, March 6, 2003. Then protecting the Development Fund for Iraq and certain other property in which Iraq has an interest, March 2003. Blocking property of persons and prohibiting the export of certain goods to Syria,

May 2004. Blocking property of certain persons undermining democratic processes and institutions in Belarus, June 2006. Also, in October 2006, blocking property of certain persons contributing to the conflict of the Democratic Republic of the Congo, then blocking property and persons undermining the sovereignty of Lebanon and its democratic process and institutions in 2007. Then we have in June 2006, continuing certain restrictions with respect to North Korea and North Korean nationalists, and that is 2008. Now we're into Obama time. Blocking property of certain persons continuing to the conflict in Somalia, blocking property

of certain transactions related to Libya, blocking property. property of transnational criminal organizations, blocking property of persons threatening peace, security, stability in Yemen, blocking property of certain persons contributing to the situation in Ukraine. That's in 2014. blocking property of certain persons with respect to South Sudan in 14, blocking the property of certain persons contributing to the conflict in the Central African Republic, blocking property suspending the entry of certain persons contributing to the situation in Venezuela, then blocking the property of certain persons engaging in significant malicious cyber-enabled activities in 2015, and the last one that Obama did, blocking property of certain persons contributing to the situation in Burundi.

That's in 2015. Now, what do those all have in common? They're all blocking property and possessions of potential terrorists or, you know, inflamed, newly inflamed hotspots around the globe. Right. They, none of the, none of it would follow under the, you know, category of new spending or anything like that. It's all blocking property and that's what it's been used for. Right.

It is, it is making sure that people, the bad guys, don't have access to more funds or transfer funds across international borders or that we do anything to help the bad guys. That's what the emergency action has been since it was first used in 1979. And I would say, too, another thing that I think a lot of those have in common, not all, certainly not September 14th, 2001. But most of them, I would say, are lower on the priority list of American sovereignty and security than the border security issue is. Like, what's going on in Brundi might be very important and it probably is. But I would not put that on the level of September 11th. September 11th or building a wall on our southern border. Right.

I mean, I think like it doesn't mean that there was no. reason to use those things, but it, you know. So here is the, here's the, here's the issue. It's not since 2006 that the Americans have said, we want a border wall. That's when Congress, including Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, signed into law a border wall. Secure Offense Act of 2006. We signed it in. And everybody in the Senate and Congress tried to convince me, oh, no.

Glenn, this time it's real. No, it's not. I mean, I knew it wasn't and you knew it wasn't. They had no intention of doing it. They were just placating the American people. But this doesn't start in 2006. The reason why it was popular for Obama and Hillary Clinton to sign it in 2006 was because we all knew what happened just a few short years ago in 2001, and no one was willing to do anything about it. Our borders knew. North and South are trouble. But there's another piece of the puzzle. The overwhelming problem that we have is overstayed visas.

And they've never fixed that either. That was the number one problem on September 11th. That's still the number one problem with terror. And a border wall won't have anything to do with that. It won't fix it. But I don't think that's where the American people are. They know that. They don't think this is a fix-all.

They just think this is one box that needs to be checked, and no one will ever check it. If I'm reading the American people right, the American people know that this is a problem. And they're tired of waiting around and being told by one party or the other, we're going to fix that. Because Bill Clinton said he would fix that.

Senator Barack Obama said he would fix that. Hillary Clinton said she would fix that. George Bush said he would fix that. No one has fixed that. No one is serious about it except the American people. So tonight, I think people are going to be split in two camps. The Democrats who have been brainwashed that, oh, no, this is just racist. No, it's not.

they're going to be against it, even though their leaders signed it in in 2006 when all the rest of the Democrats remembered September 11th. They're going to be brainwashed and they're going to say, no, this is nothing but race. What does the right say about it? So, Stu, let's look at what...

Let's start a pro-in-con list. The pros, as I see it, is that this would mean that there would be a permanent solution. And I think that's the number one thing that conservatives are looking for. We're tired of having this same battle and being told we're going to take care of it, knowing that they're not going to take care of it. They're not going to be serious about it. And so this provides something that goes beyond this president, and it's done. Right, unless they decide to blow it up or tear it down, which I wouldn't necessarily pass the future president.

Right. Well, I could see them not repairing it. Just not, just let it go to waste. Okay, so you have a permanent solution. You have more security. You haven't solved the problem, but you have more security. Definitely improvement. Right.

Yes. A move in the right direction, a big move in the right direction. And you have accountability. Right? Accountability. How do you mean that? You have somebody who's willing. to say, I'm responsible for this.

Sure. Yeah. That's nice to hear occasionally. Right. The buck stops here. That's the one thing that I think both Republicans and Democrats want, maybe not on the same things, but they want someone to say, buck stops here. And that is, that is the real problem with like government shutdowns and things like that, is the more we don't believe in the federal government, the more we want someone, anyone, just to step in and say, I'll fix it because we think these things are common sense. I believe the border wall is common sense. I mean, I want a bigger door. I want more qualified people coming in. I want the best people from all over the world to come in. But what I don't want are people coming in through the windows and

through the side doors that we don't know who's in the house. And I don't want that in any way, shape, or form. I don't want that from Sweden, and I don't want that from Libya, and I don't want that from Mexico. Seems like, you know, the basic common sense. Common sense when it comes to having a country and having borders, you have to be able to control them if they get out of control, right? No one's talking about a fence between us and Canada, because that is not an out-of-control

border. This one is. And we have to do something to stop it. The fence would help quite a bit. And they've already let us down after we've elected them and they've passed bills promising it. Okay. Including votes from Diane Feinstein and Barbara Boxer and Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. This was not a Republican measure very recently. No. It was 2006. And that is, that's the thing that president's going to hang his hat on tonight, I think. If he does this, he may not do this. I think he's going to. You mean As far as actually saying the state of emergency and shifting funds to pay for the border wall without passing the law. Yes.

You think he's going to do it? I do. Do you? If I had a guess, I'd say yes. There's a lot of reporting on it that that's definitely what he's considering. He may also just be threatening it, right? Like he may be saying, like, look, I'm going to do this either way. You might as well get your DACA and give me the money because I'm going to go do this as a.

Yeah, he may say you've got seven days. Right. might put a window or 30 days, whatever it is. Well, because then the shutdown thing is getting to those elevated levels too, where it's starting to, you're already starting to see the reporting about people who, who, you know, the tax refunds they've solved in short term. But you've got the food stamps thing that's right right around the corner. There's several different programs that will start becoming major news stories if they don't get this fixed by then.

I wonder who's writing this tonight. This really has to be written really, really well. And his goal, right, is to make people understand the seriousness of the border as separately from some political issue, right? His goal is to say to the person who's in the middle who cares about our security, but isn't a partisan or isn't a huge Trump person or whatever to convince them that, hey, you know, you've been hearing all this stuff and they always say that I'm lying about this. Here are the facts. And this really is a serious situation. And we may need to make it a national emergency. This is the first time that he's done anything from the Oval Office.

He has not given a speech behind the Resolute Desk in the Oval Office, and not an address to the nation. Correct? I don't know. I'm pretty sure. Look it up. Marissa, I'm pretty sure that that is... A primetime address.

Prime time. This is his first prime time address from behind the Resolute Desk. The Resolute Desk is generally reserved for really important speeches, you know, milestone kind of speeches to where we're going to war or there's a national emergency or there's something really grave that we need to talk about. Also, it has traditionally been used for the farewell address. Interesting to see the media struggle yesterday with, should we even take this? something that we should even take? Uh, yes. First of all, yes. Second of all, if you would have even suggested that under Barack Obama, you would have been a racist for suggesting it. Unbelievable. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

Like listening to this podcast? If you're not a subscriber, become one now on iTunes. But while you're there, do us a favor and rate the show. Okay, so the only thing that I can think of that is a con on national emergency is it is not unconstitutional. the president has a right to do that. We have 22 national emergencies already running. They just never go away. And there's all sorts of different types of national emergencies as well. I mean, one of the funny things about this is we too had a call her last hour saying,

well, one of the ways he could do this is because of the opioid thing. I mean, this is a major issue. Well, there is a national health emergency on opioids, a different type of national emergency. But until he actually, he promised. to declare a national emergency on opioids, but it took him with Trump a while to do it. And in that time, the media was constantly complaining

that he wasn't starting a national health emergency on opioids. They complained about it constantly until he finally did wind up doing it. Now that the same, it's a related matter on opioids and heroin and these sorts of things. Now that he wants to do a different type of national emergency, it's a very controversial thing. Right. So if he's smart, he will include opioids, tonight. He will include MS-13 and he will include the humanitarian crisis that has been

caused here recently by people who wish to do our country no good. Also, he should include that we will open up our immigration and make it easier for qualified people to come in. Because I don't think anybody has a problem with immigrants as long as they're here and they're qualified. Right. What we don't want is MS-13. And again, MS-13 gets this political sort of thing. Oh, that's just Donald Trump trying to scare people. To just put this in perspective, MS-13 kills 4.3 times as many people that die in school shootings. In the United States, 4.3 times as many people die at the hands of MS-13, then die in school shootings. And how much do you hear about MS-13? You don't.

don't ever hear about it. It's just a nonsensical. Oh, that's just Donald Trump. He's just making things up. MS-13. What are you just letters and numbers? He's just throwing them together? No, it's a very violent gang and they kill a lot of people in the United States. It's a real problem. A real problem. If you think school shootings are a real problem, which we all know, the left does. This is four times the size. And the president should include things like that if he's going to make the case. Now, the only downside I can see on this is I don't like the way this is being done. I don't, I don't want to set this precedent. I don't want the next president coming in

and saying, well, I'll tell you a national crisis, a national emergency, it's global warming. And here are all the stats. Because they will. Yeah, the idea behind a national emergency is to take things that aren't partisan issues. We all know that Iran, right,

is a big problem and we need to stop their funding, right? That was the first time it was used. Again, during the hostage crisis, September 11th, right after that, we all know. We're all on the same page. The votes are all, you know, 100 to zero on issues related to that. This is one where, obviously, Republicans wanted to happen. Democrats don't.

And if you... But tell me the thing that isn't partisan now. Well, I mean, you could say... It's usually only an emergency situations. But again, that's why there's a national emergency part of this, right? But isn't part of the national emergency... Look, I'm not making a case for this because I don't think this is the right way to do it. But I'm going to play devil's advocate because there is no other way to do this anymore.

Any other way to do it has been destroyed because we've made everything partisan. When you said, well, we should know. Well, we all did. We all knew that 2006, they all, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton signed the wall into law. It passed 80 to 19, by the way, in the Senate. Okay. So it wasn't a partisan issue. It just is now.

Yep. Climate change should not be a partisan issue. But it is a partisan issue. It is a partisan issue because it's been made that way. Yes. And they will say the same thing. This is not supposed to be a partisan issue. And we should pass, it's a national state of emergency on the climate and we can do X, Y, and Z.

They've tried it. I mean, this is how a lot of times the EPA has tried to control emissions and put new standards on, which are things that, you know, I've fought against the entire time because I believe those are completely unconstitutional. This one would not be, it's allowed through the law. it would be, not only would it not be unconstitutional, it would be completely legal as far as I can tell. It's just a new way of using this. It does seem to be an expanded use of this power, which, you know, I don't want that ever.

I don't ever want to be on the air telling you that the government is getting more power to do something because they already have enough. They already have a lot of power. And the reason, you know, these things are hard to do. To pass a border wall is going to be hard to do. and that is sort of built into our system. What's really crazy is we went to the moon in the 1960s when we didn't have the technology.

We didn't have the technology. And we said we have to do this, not because it's easy, but because it's hard. We don't need any technology. We don't need to do anything. The fence technology has been around for a while. It's been around forever. Look at it's hard to do. No, hard to do was go to the moon.

in 1969. That was hard to do. Getting together and putting a fence or a wall up to stop people from coming in across our border, that's not hard. It's just people unwilling to do it. Yeah. I mean, I just, you know, we all, if this was the way that this could have been done, we wouldn't have needed to have a conversation about laws for the past two years, right? I think everyone realized for the past two years, including the administration, that this was not the way to do this. the same way, by the way, that Barack Obama had the conversation about DACA and they said, we can't do this. We got to pass a law. And then they came up with another way around it.

This one is a little bit different. I think it's better than the DACA thing. There's no question about it. But it makes me a little uneasy, doesn't it? Let's look at it this way. The only reason why we have Donald Trump, the thing that Donald Trump really connected, because remember, he wasn't connecting at the beginning until he got onto the border wall. When he started on the border wall, that was in his first open.

speech. It was like 19th on his list. Yeah, it was not a high priority in that speech. People forget that. The whole, you know, Mexican rapist thing that he got beat up on so much. That was like, I want to say it was like two or three percent of his speech. It was a, it was not something he focused on at all. So soon as he started to get onto that, that's when he really took off. So let me just, let me just posit this, uh, this little thought here. That perhaps because the Democrats refused to deal with what they say. they would do in 2008, and they agreed that we needed a wall. But then for some political reason or some other reason that never has been vocalized,

they decided not to build the wall. That's the reason why we have Donald Trump as president, because politicians refused to do exactly not what they said they were going to do, but what they wrote a bill and signed on to do. They passed a law that said shall be built, and they never did it. So if you're looking for an ultimate reason why Donald Trump, how could Donald Trump be our president? Well, there it is. Yeah, it's stuff like that.

Yeah. And the Republicans and the Democrats failed to build a wall that they passed a law. It's amazing. But I mean, Trump, one thing about Trump in these moments is he doesn't like being on defense, right? So this is a way for him to turn it to being on offense. I've got something I can use and I will use it. I think there's a good chance that he says tonight, you've got two weeks to hammer this out,

or I'm going to use this. So that puts him on the offensive. Again, it makes me an easy, that sort of power, but still it is an understandable thing that, I mean, because the basic thing behind it, everybody agrees with, at least in this audience, I think most people on the conservative side, which is this is a real problem.

People are ignoring it. We need this thing built, figure out a way to do it. And that is a completely logical way to think. We just have to make sure we don't cross some barrier. We're going to get burned by later. Left to their own devices, the American people would solve this problem. Oh, yeah.

We would solve it. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. I also, because it's a new year, I really want to focus on the big issues. And I was overwhelmed during the holiday with the number of people that rode in and said how close they were to giving up, how they had wrestled with depression, how they had been wrestling with alcoholism, and how they had a new commitment to continue another day. And sometimes we forget about how alone people can feel. And it's because we don't talk about these things because we kind of bury them and they are they are kind of first principles

they're the things that we should be talking about with each other we should be looking out for one another but sometimes these things make us uncomfortable and you don't know what to say i know this is true for me in many cases with um veterans because i have i hold them in such high regard. I don't necessarily, I just don't necessarily know what I would do in their situation. And it causes me sometimes to not say anything. One of the biggest regrets in my life, I am good friends with Chris Kyle's wife, but I was not friends with Chris because I stood at a charity fundraiser, shoulder to shoulder with him. And I only shook his hand and thanked him for his service, I didn't even talk to him because I was so

intimidated. Our soldiers are going through real tough times, but it's those who refuse to give up that make the difference. Our partners at StoryCorps have a great story to tell between a Marine corporal, Zach Skiles. He was deployed to Iraq in 2003. He was there at the beginning of the invasion, while serving on the front lines, he lost five friends within a two-week period. And when he came home, he had a hard time adjusting. He had a hard time holding down a job. He found himself homeless. So StoryCorps set down with him and his father, Scott, to talk about the difficulties that he faced during the war and how he got back on his feet. This is an amazing story. Listen. I remember saying to you, every gift.

that I've been given, I don't have a better one than to be your dad. And I remember you smile and saying, I love you too, dad. And then you got out of the car and went to war. So what was life like after you came home? I was pretty sure someone was going to kick down my door. And I was scared to go to sleep. I couldn't sustain employment. I couldn't pay rent and pay for groceries.

It all just kind of fell apart. And then I was homeless. The crazy thing was that I didn't think that there was anything super wrong. You know, the nighttime, I stayed on coastal trails and hiking trails, and in the daytime, I could just pass out at a park. There was a time period where I didn't know where you were. Mm-hmm. And it is difficult to watch anyone let go of hope.

but when it's your son, it's excruciating. I remember great relief that you decided to go into an inpatient treatment. And I remember one night you getting out of the car to walk back into the treatment building. It was dark and your head was kind of down. And for a moment, I could feel the weight you were carrying. As I watched you walk into that building, I uttered these two words, that I don't know if they were some kind of prayer or not, but they just came out, my son. And I was absolutely overcome with grief and love and the beginning of hope.

What is life like for you now? It's pretty cool. You graduated undergrad? Yes. I heard summa cum laude. I'm just asking. That's what I heard. Yeah.

I remember my dad saying this to me, and I feel it is so true between you and I, it is your life. So you have the last word. But then as your dad, that gives me the second to the last word. And the second to the last word is, I believe in you. And I'm on your side. There's a powerful thing I learned from somebody who had been kept as a sex slave in Mexico. She had literally, she had chain scars around her neck, scars all over her back where she had been beaten and burned and chained for a couple of years. I was recording something with her and I said, I want you to say, hi, my name is so-and-so, and I used to be a slave.

And she said, no, I won't say that. And I said, okay, why? and she said, because I never considered myself a slave. They may have chained me, but I never considered myself a slave. Our lives are a blank piece of paper, and we are the only authors of it. If someone else is authoring it, or if you don't like the way the story is going, open a new page and start again. It sounds ridiculous because it's too easy, but it's true. Dave Issae from StoryCorps is with us now.

Dave, can you give me an update on Zach? Glenn, happy New Year. It's great to talk to you. Well, Zach is getting his Ph.D. now in psychology. And I will say, you know, this was the first time, as you know, a StoryCorps interview is two people who care about one another coming to have a conversation. And we've had a dozen big special initiatives through the years. And this one is part of the military voices initiative, focusing on the voices of post-9-11 vets and their families. The first time they ever had this conversation, first time they ever talked about what happened to Zach in Iraq.

And I met, so I don't get a chance to meet a lot of the participants in StoryCorps. We've had half a million people who participate. But when I'm giving a talk, sometimes people from stories will come into the talk. And Zach's dad, Scott came to a talk a little while ago. And this goes back a little bit to what you were saying about the woman who you had interviewed, who was a sex slave. And it reminded me of that Mandela quote where he said, Nelson Mandela, they can chain my body, but they can't chain my soul. but Zach's dad, Scott, after I played a story, handed me just a very brief quote, which stuck with me. And it just said, here is the world, beautiful and terrible things will happen.

Don't be afraid. So how can people get involved in your new initiative, one small step? This is trying to bring people together that maybe don't see the world politically the same way, but you're preserving the voices of people who are very, very different from one another, but can find common ground. How do people get involved in that? So you can come to our website at StoryCorps, S-T-O-R-Y-C-O-R-P-S-R-P-S-R-P-S-R-E-S-R-E-S-E-R-B, back-Sash one small step, which is one word. And you described exactly what we're trying to do.

We've had half a million people who know and love each other, like Zach and Scott, come to StoryCore. And now we're working to put people on the opposite sides of the political divide together, just to not to talk about politics, just to remember that someone you disagree with is also a human being. Have you started it yet? Have you actually started to record these yet? Oh, yes, we have. And it's, you know, it's, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a beautiful thing to, to see. And none of it will surprise you. you know, it brings out kind of the opposite impulses of social media.

When you do a story court interview, each of those interviews goes to the Library of Congress. So your great, great, great, great, great, grandkids can hear the voice of your grandmother or your friend, whoever you're talking to, your voice. And unlike social media, which is so disposable, you know, StoryCorps is the ultimate kind of long game, right? So when you come to a StoryCorps booth and you're talking to someone across the political divides, You know that your great, great, great grandkids are going to listen to this someday. So you really are your kind of best, highest self. Yeah.

So it's just a beautiful thing to see. And, you know, I think that it's enough already, right? Go ahead in the country with what's going on. And it's just an existential crisis. It's dangerous. And we've forgotten that we belong to one another. I can't wait to hear some of those voices that you're collecting. If you want to be a part of this, go to StoryCorps, C.O-R-P-S.

storycore.org slash one small step and that is again one word. Dave, thank you so much. We'll talk to you again. Glenn, it's great to talk to you. Talk to you soon. You at. Bye-bye. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. So it's early in the morning

up at the ranch and my whole family and my grandkids and everybody's around and I walk out into the main room and I said, everybody, we have to say a prayer. and everybody on your knees and my family just looked at me

and I said, Jeffie has just had a heart attack and it's a big one. And by the end of the prayer, most of us were in tears because we just love him dearly. And we were greatly concerned about you, Jeffie. Thank you.

The support, the overwhelming support between co-workers and listeners and viewers of this network was unbelievable. And, you know, proof that, you know, well-wishes and thoughts and prayers work. Yeah. So tell me what it was like that morning. You got up in the morning, and Amber told me you were sitting on the edge of the bed. Oh, yeah. Sitting on the edge of the bed and the pain in my chest was not going away.

Back up a couple days. Yeah. How many days of pain did you ignore before you were sitting on the bed? and I'm wondering whether you should go to the hospital. A couple that I remember. So for two days you were having heart pain. Well, a little bit. I mean, it went away.

So it's just. I know that you told. Oh, yeah, it's going away. Okay, you're fine. And then you just move on. You know, I've just, uh, you're fine. Uh-huh. You convince yourself that it's not a difference.

Is it a pain like you've ever felt before? Not really. I mean, you really, honestly, looking back on it, it was dumb not to do something. dumb not to go see somebody about it because you realize that that's not right you know that's just not that's not the pain of hurting yourself while you sleep

it's not the pain of indigestion or heartburn right and so the morning of the the pain that would not stop it just doesn't stop there's no way you just I mean it it starts in your chest and it stays there and continues down your arms I didn't have so much of that it was more just

complete pressure on my chest, nonstop pain all over, you know, the entire chest. So, Amber said, you know, you feel nauseous and like you're going to throw up and that's... Some profuse sweating, I understand. Absolutely. Big time sweating. More than usual. Right.

In fact, that was even brought up. Which I'm surprised your family didn't drown. If it was more than usual, I'm surprised that the lifeguard wasn't called out. Well, the shirt was still, I believe the shirt was still sopped after a couple days. There was no doubt. So you told Amber not to call 9-100. The first time, yeah, don't worry about it. I'll be fine.

I'll just see if it goes away. And then the last no was more of a no-yes call. Yeah. You know, it was no. Oh, wow. So no means yes to you. Okay, we're learning an awful lot. I've believed in that forever, Glenn.

I think you know that. So she said that you're, Your pulse had gotten down to, I think, 45. And whatever. I mean, it was down to nothing. Yeah. And it was really bad. She said it stopped a few times.

I believe that. I believe that. And in transit, you know, once they, you know, once we called 911 and the, you know, rescue, fire rescue and the ambulance people were all there within, I don't know, five minutes, maybe. I don't know how long it took them to get there. I know that we live in some strange area that it took three transfers on 911 to get to the right 911. for my wife. So she was freaking out. And I know that it probably was pretty fast. Yeah. But even right. You know, when you call 911, it's like you want something now. And oh, hold on. I'll have to transfer you. Hold. I'm going to transfer you. Please hold. She's screaming at the phone.

But they, you know, relatively fast. And then in transit from my home to the to the hospital, I apparently went off the deep end farther close to the end. And once we got to the hospital, it was... You remember it? I remember leaving the neighborhood. I remember looking out the window saying, oh, this is the way they're leaving the neighborhood. And then I remember going into the hospital. I remember them banging on the door of the ER

because the ER door wouldn't open. I remember that. I remember that with the fire rescue going, hey! To be fair, though, a lot of businesses have rules to not open the door for you. Yeah. So that's just... Jeff Fisher.

I believe there's a restraining order here. This is very possible. Right. And so you didn't go into the normal ER situation, right? I did not. We went straight into surgery, right? Straight into the cat lab for heart surgery. I mean, to be honest, shh, but I haven't seen paperwork or a bill or nothing.

Oh, it's not coming. Don't worry. Everything's going to be fine. I mean, no, it's coming. Oh, it's coming. I know there's going to end up at the front door, you know, probably giant bags of papers. That's the first thing.

When I heard that was the first thing we called HR. to make sure that you did not have any problem with paperwork. I can't imagine. You never stand there with paperwork. But it's coming. That's fine. I believe that. But I'm just saying it was amazing.

I mean, there was nothing. I mean, straight in and right to the surgery. And they had one on the left side was 100% blocked. That's the widow maker, as they call it. And apparently there's a reason they call that the widow maker. It gets 100% blocked. die. And if it's not attended to fast enough, right?

I mean, if you don't get to it in time, if someone, you know, believes that no means no in your world and doesn't call 911, you're dead, right? I mean, that's as simple as that. They got there in time to fix it. Your life flashed in front of your eyes? Not really. Did you know, I was, that's what's so funny. I was telling, I remember Pat reminded me this morning when he came to the hospital,

is that I don't remember ever thinking this was it. that didn't flash between me and I don't remember I didn't think I didn't ever think oh this is it I'm going to die I don't I never thought that is I wonder if that's why you are alive I wonder if that whatever it is in you that made you not think that is what helped you carry on it's very possible I mean I never thought that I mean obviously you know it's scary and you're having a heart attack and I'm you know kind of freaking out and going through whatever you go through when you have the heart attack and the chest is hurting and I just want it to stop and I want it to be fixed. But I never thought, oh, this is it. I'm never going to see anybody again. So let's get this over with. One of the things we talked at your place the past weekend, you mentioned, which I thought was really interesting, was it's kind of like they brought you in

and they did their job and cleared out the problems. And then you're kind of like, they kind of reset it. Yeah. Like if they had just known, let's say, two weeks earlier, that you had this blockage, you would have still had the surgery, but you wouldn't have had the heart attack. Right. And you would be back. I mean, you were, this is, remember, this happened, what, 10 days ago, 12, two weeks ago,

something like that. And here you are. You're back at work. We're, we're from the generation. We're probably the last generation where something like this, you don't come back from. Knock you out. You're done. You're done.

You would have had double bypass surgery. Yeah. Double bypass surgery was like that was crazy. Yeah. And that's last resort stuff now. I don't even, you know, I don't even think they do it. Do they? I think they do.

I think they break your chest open once in a while if you need it in for particular cases. What a new one? Yes, yeah, I guess so. Yeah, if they're going to put in like that. I had a stent put in the one valve and the other valve they cleaned out. And I learned yesterday that they left a couple of valves on the other side of my heart that were like 30 or 40 percent block. They're going to leave those because they'll clean themselves out now. You'll be fine.

Well, they'll clean themselves out. themselves out. Now, with the new medications, with the new... They put a little scrubbing bubbles in there. Yes, they did. That's incredible. That's the medication I have now is scrubbing bubbles. And it's just doing its work. Right. Right. I mean, it's apparently, you know, it's a they have me on some kind of, I mean, blood thinner. I can't, a mosquito bites me. I'm dead. You know, go, go cut yourself. Don't cut yourself. But, yeah, that's, that's it. They said that's, that's, I don't, that'll clean it out

now that we've got the other side's working good. Okay. Okay. All right. So, now, so now how far medicine is. I mean, it is amazing. It's amazing. it's amazing. It's amazing. I mean, it's amazing. I mean, Ray Kurzweil said, Glenn, just stay alive until 2030. Then you'll never die. I mean, that's... I don't want that either, for me honest. I don't want that either.

But, I mean, that's how far medicine is going to go. And we're just at this steep, steep curve. We'll come back and talk about changes now. And changes that our wives are now yelling at us about because of you. So we were up in the mouth. mountains until Sunday and this happened what day? I was 28th. What is that? A Thursday or Friday? Something like that. And had to drive down. We just got a text message. We can get text messages, but I can't make

any phone calls up in the mountains. So I had to drive 20 minutes freaking out. And I called Amber right away and then I called Pat and Stu. And Pat ended, or Stu ended the conversation with? Basically, it's different when someone who's like a peer, a friend, this happens to it. It changes the way you think about the life. I don't know how much longer we can do this to our bodies. That's exactly what he said. We can't do this to our bodies anymore.

We're not young anymore. Very disappointing. I'd just like to apologize. Yeah. I'd like to apologize to you. Thank you. Not to Stu, but I'll apologize to you. No, no, no.

And actually, Jeffrey, it's good. I've got to lose 50 pounds. What did the doctor say to you? They are, you know, they obviously, you know, they lose weight and eat right and get, you know, exercise and get right and get your heart stronger. We're all, you know, we're in the right. Now, the way you're saying that, it sounds like, it sounds like you're not really. Shot across the bow. There's a warning.

It's all good. Right. We could do something about it. But they really were most concerned about there was another, you know, thing. Mm-hmm. That I involved myself in over the years that. You're not narrowing it down. comes to you.

They were most concerned with the smoking. And that's a habit you picked back up, right? Yeah, I mean, I put off my hat. Yeah, I know, I know, I know. Nobody smokes around me. I didn't know you had started smoking again. And it's just, and so that's what they're most concerned with is that the smoking, stop the smoking, 100%.

You can put a patch on, you can chew, don't smoke, don't vape, don't do none of it. No smoking. So you're done with the smoking. Have you actually stopped? Yeah. No vaping. too. Vaping is supposedly... They made a point of that. They may have a point of that. I know Stu and I talked about this

the other day about the vaping because I don't know that they know anything. Yeah. For sure. I don't know that there's any actual deep studies that prove that. I think the science on and honestly is pretty favorable towards vaping as far as a replacement. I mean, it's much lower on the risk sort of scale. But again, that doesn't mean a person who just had a heart attack should take it up. I think if you could stop, it's better. I mean, I think that's where they're at. Right.

A lot of these companies talk about that in that like this is a way to stop. It's not necessarily something. It's certainly not something you should just start from scratch. Like if you're not smoking, don't start vaping. But if you are smoking, baby is probably better. Though for you, coming out of a massive heart attack, perhaps zero smoking of any sort of any. Zero smoking of any. You should not even go to Los Angeles.

So that, right. That's pretty much it. Yeah. Which, you know, kills the rave parties that I've been going to do. Oh, I know. That's only second. So nothing about the cocaine and the heroin. They did talk a little bit about supplements.

At one point yesterday with the heart doc The heart doc did point out a few things about some of the supplements, but that's about it. What are the supplements? Yeah, what are the supplements? I mean, vitamins. Glenn, vitamins are supplements, vitamins. So he's taking some shady products for like vitamins.

Are you taking like rhino horn? Those are illegal. So did they, I mean, you know, we've occasionally mentioned on this program before your weight. You mentioned that? Yeah, I think once or twice. If people, long time listeners

might have remembered this. Now we have, this show. Yeah, in this show. Huh. Did they say to you like, hey. Now your wife notoriously I know. Likes fat men, which

at the Christmas wine, at the Christmas party. Do you know what she said? Do you know what she said? No, I don't know. She came up to me and she said, you are looking great. I was immediately like I have got

to lose weight. Okay. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. You were looking great. She didn't really mean that. Yeah.

She did not really mean that. Yeah. So I thought, wow, I am as big as a house. I've got to stop. But she likes her men plump. And she does. And she's a, you know, she's a fan of starting to eat right and do things right now, you know, health-wise. But she is also a notoriously good cook of all the things you should.

should not have. I know. So is that stopping? Are you going to make a change in this realm? I already have, Stu. Oh, my gosh. Look at that he is going to die. He'd rather die than stop eating Twinkies.

That's what we're seeing. I'm going to lose 50 pounds this year. You're going to lose 50 pounds. I'm going to lose 50 pounds. Good. I mean, it's important. Want to join me? Oh, Glenn.

Are we out of time? Wow. Of course I'm going to, I'll lose it. It's easy. 50 pounds. I can do 50 pounds. How much weight should you? How much?

Because you were, you were really, you were really sveled for a while. Yeah, you lost about over 100 pounds. Over 100 pounds, yeah. And then I gained about 7580 back. After you gained how much? See, you know, once in a while there's fat jokes. Right, right, right. Right, right.

But I mean, 70 pounds from where you were, I don't think so. Maybe a little bit more than that. Okay. No? No. Really? Yeah. Got a lot of water weight you're held on, too. Well, I'm hollow inside. Yeah. So do you have a plan? Do you have a goal in mind of what you want to do? Is it? They actually, right now, the docs were more concerned with let's get the heart healthy and let's, you know, start exercising and start getting that back.

And everything else will follow. And the smoking, no smoke. No, yeah. So you do it for exercise. That's 100%. That's 100%. They put me in some place I have to go to now. some heart rehab place. So whatever, they have to go with what they say. I know. I just started using a roer. I used to love those. Yeah.

Frank Underwoods. I have to, yeah. I have the one Frank Underwood had. Oh, really? Those are great. And started using it. It will wipe you out. And if you do five minutes a day, even, but you do five minutes a day, twice a day.

Do they recommend more than just five minutes? No, actually, it's like 10 minutes. 10 minutes a day and it is a full body workout. Interesting. Yeah. I'm up to four and then I just want to kill myself. But I don't have the strength of the energy to be able to reach for a knife or anything deadly. All right.

Jeff Fisher, thank you so much. God bless you. I love you too. The Blaze Radio Network. On Demand.