The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program | Guests: Dinesh D’Souza & Adam Carolla | 9/18/20

Episode Date: September 18, 2020

Big tech is shadow-banning a recently leaked conversation between Joe Biden and Ukraine’s former president, allegedly for lacking more context (which Glenn has exposed over the past year on BlazeTV). Dinesh D’Souza joins on the release date of his first feature film, "Infidel," a political thriller that confronts radical Islam, starring Jim Caviezel. Comedian Adam Carolla joins to discuss how Facebook ironically tried to cancel yesterday’s “CancelCon” event. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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voyage. The conditions can't Hey, podcasters, great podcast for you today. It's Friday. We've got a couple of things. One, we actually had to go into the dark web to pull for you because it has been banned by Twitter, Facebook, YouTube. You can't find it anywhere. It is a leaked recording of a conversation between Joe Biden and the president of Ukraine right after Donald Trump was elected. He, in that, does absolutely everything he accused General Flynn of doing.

And that's when they tried to put him in jail for doing exactly what Joe Biden just did in this tape. You're not going to hear this anywhere else. It is being erased. It's important. Make sure you listen to it. We also have Dinesh D'Souza on today. We have Adam Carolla. I mean, it's just a free-for-all Friday.

from the Glenn Beck podcast. Here it is. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Now that is being actively hidden, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook have all shadow banned this. You're not going to be able to find this audio anywhere unless you have access to the dark web, which my research team uses the dark web. It's sometimes the only way to get information. and what what you have to do if you're on the dark web or have a VPN, you can just log in as if you're a Russian server.

And so if you are, if you're, you know, logging online from a Russian server, then you see the things that were banned in America, but not banned the rest of the world. This audio came from a Ukrainian source. and the Ukrainian source taped it is an Ukrainian official. They taped a phone call right after the election of Joe Biden. I'm sorry, of Donald Trump. Joe Biden reached out to his people, Poroshenko, in the Ukraine.

Remember everything you learned during the impeachment hearings and what we showed you on the chalkboard. so he reaches out to Prochenko, the head of the Ukrainian government, and it's recorded. Now, I want to give you several layers of this. What was the reason that Joe Biden said we could get General Flynn? Remember, the FBI said there's nothing here. He didn't do anything wrong. There's nothing here. And the next day, they had an emergency meeting at the White House without the FBI.

The FBI said, case closed. they had this meeting. Joe Biden was in it. Susan Rice was in it. And so was Barack Obama. And we know because of notes that Barack Obama said, what do we, what can we do? Joe Biden said we can use the Logan Act. The Logan Act is something that was enacted in the 1700s.

It's never been used. But it is when somebody would go over to a foreign country and say, I'm representing the United States of America. And they didn't represent the United States of America. And they tried to do deals with that country. Okay. It's an old timey act. Never been invoked.

Until Joe Biden said, we can get General Flynn. So they did. That's what they got General Flynn on. And the reason why is because he said, look, don't do anything crazy. We're coming into office to Russia. we're coming into office and just please don't retaliate on anything this administration has done. It's a new administration and we may be handling things differently. That was interference from the incoming administration.

Now, this is the outgoing administration and the vice president calling the president of Ukraine. Here's cut one. The people they put forward to be part of the transition have to be clear. Stop, stop, stop, stop. You know what? Let me, before we even start this, put it back at the beginning. If you're at your computer, I want you to take this piece of audio and I want you to burn it to a CD. It is being systematically erased by tech.

Again, we got this from YouTube and the dark web from Russia because it hasn't been banned yet by YouTube in Russia. So everybody, if you have access, burn this to a CD so it's not lost. All right, here we go. People they put forward to be part of the transition just as we had to be cleared after the Bush administration, et cetera, Ukraine. So we know that the situation with Ukraine was dirty. We know that the Obama administration was doing stuff kind of off the books a little wink, wink, nod, nod in Ukraine. What he's saying here is, I can't tell you because I'm limited. What I can tell them, what I can tell you. So he's besmirching the administration, the incoming administration saying,

look, I can't tell you why, but we're not telling them everything. There's some things going on. Well, what were those things going on? A bogus investigation. So we can't really talk to them about it. And so they don't know what's been going on in Ukraine. This is a signal for him to say, if he was using plain language,

he would just be saying, look, they're not part of what we've been doing, so don't say anything to them about that. Okay? That's what's happening. Now, here's part two of the phone call. Well, you're awfully generous. Uh-huh, uh-huh.

And we do, Joe. And we do. I want to urge you to look at this, burn it if you can to your hard drive so you we know we have it again it is being censored by youtube twitter and facebook they've all shadow band it um we can tell you why if you go back and you look at a few of the episodes uh of what was happening with uh just look at the episode on hydra if you look at the hydra episode about what was going on in ukraine you understand why all of this is going on.

You can get those shows and all of the shows. In fact, last Wednesday show about the Civil War, the coming Civil War, that has on the screen as we go, I had to move quickly because it's a lot of research in that show. It gives you the titles of all the other shows that we did that are in the archives. So you can watch that and go, okay, I don't understand that. Okay, it's on that show. Go back to the archives and watch that show. the reason why probably this is being censored since there's no evidence the heavily edited recordings

they're thinking were stolen or they're entirely fabricated okay well really because we have systems now that can talk about deep fakes and the then the hardest deep fake to make is audio It's not even close yet. Video, it's pretty close. Audio is really, really hard. Now, these, it's entirely fabricated or it was stolen. These are things that the, that Twitter and Facebook have put in to stop foreign interference in this year's election. And unlike in 16, when Russia used bogus social media accounts or bots to wave,

to wage misinformation campaigns. This time, they're being spread by legitimate American social media users. The disinformation fellow at the nonpartisan Wilson Center said the recordings are misleading to an audience that doesn't have the full picture. It's certainly an influence campaign. Well, you want the full picture? You can get the full picture. at blaisTV.com.

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Terrorism. They're working on it, right? The government. Not a chance. The days have been Ted Bay alone. Okay, this is... As far as the most consent, you did it in very... This is an incredible story by Dinesh D'Souza based on a true story, and Deneh is here to tell us about it.

Hi, Deneh. Pleasure. Great to be on the show. Likewise, likewise. So tell us the story of the movie Infidel. Very simple. A Christian and a patriot goes to an international conference on world religions, and... is being interviewed about Jesus.

And of course, from the Islamic point of view, Jesus is a prophet. Correct. But he commits the faux pa, if you will, of saying, no, no, it's not just that. Jesus is the son of God. And sort of all hell breaks loose, activates all these terrorist groups.

So basically what we're doing is this is the first movie. It's a political thrill. It's radical Islam. I think, as you know, Glenn, when Hollywood makes a movie about terrorists, they're typically like Russian or Eastern European or they live on an island. So it's La Lala and it's dumb.

We wanted to make a story that is ripped from the headlines that is based upon true events of Americans who have been in captivity in Iran. We wanted to expose what our director, Cyrus and Erastay, knows a lot about the Christian underground in Iran, never reported on in the Western media. And so all of this is pulled together into a kind of a non-stop action story.

and, you know, Jim Cabiesel delivers like nobody's business. So it's a fantastic and a fun movie to watch and illuminating in all kinds of ways. So it opens today, which I think is perfect timing for you. You know, I'm a movie lover. I love going to movies. And I've gone to two movies in the last two months, which is really very low for us. And we come out and we like, what do you want to? see, no Raiders of the Lost Ark. No, we saw that about 30 years ago, 40 years ago. And so now you

have a wide open place and an audience that knows better than this bull crap of the coronavirus that, you know, we can't, we shouldn't ever be anywhere even a hundred feet away from people. I think you're going to do well. Well, this is the thing. We're opening in 1800 theaters and the theaters are behind us, partly for commercial reasons. They want to bring people back out. They also know this is a terrific film. So it's very exciting. As you know, I've been making documentaries, but Debbie, my wife and I, we've long said that the gold standard of Hollywood is the feature film. In fact, their worst propaganda is in feature films. The bad guy is always some business guy or some small town pastor who's a secret member of the Ku Klux Klan. So we wanted to make a different

kind of movie that reflected patriotic and Christian values that took seriously topics like honor killing, terrorism. And so this film was shot in Jordan. It's shot by an Iranian, American guy who is a convert to Christianity. We were really lucky to Land Kvizel for the role, because, of course, not just because he was Jesus and the Passion of the Christ, but because he has an international reputation and a very good feel for this kind of a movie because he believes in it. So, Dinesh, how much... license did you take with the stories? I mean, because that will be the complaint, and you had to be

aware of that, that you have to make sure that it is accurate. I know it's based on a true story, but you can't throw in some supervillain. You know, it's like Christians sometimes they will make, you know, everybody who's against, you know, the protagonist, if you will, everybody who's against the, you know, the Abby Johnson of the movie. is just a horrible, horrible human being. I know you don't do that. Were you aware of all of those traps? Oh, absolutely.

In other words, two things. I mean, one is, of course, I'm very familiar with the sort of niche Christian movies and even the niche conservative movies based on Ayn Rand and so on. And those tend to be both very preachy in tone because they look at the movie as an opportunity to deliver a message.

And then they're very manichaean. They're good versus evil. They're only good guys on one side, bad guys on the other side, which gives the film a little bit of a cartoonish quality. So the goal here is quite different. And in fact, Jim Cavizal, who was on TV yesterday, he goes, this is no candy-ass Christian movie. I wouldn't put it that way, but he's totally right.

It's a gritty film. I've got to warn people. It's got foul language. It's got a lot of violence in it. So it's a film that is immersed in the culture, and it does not make this kind of manichy and divide between the good guy and the bad guy. In fact, there's a very bizarre rapport between the Christian Cavizal and the bad guy who's this incredible Turkish actor who plays the leading terrorist, a kind of British, you know, a British ISIS type guy. And they have an unbelievable chemistry in the movie that I think is part of what makes this movie take off.

I'm glad to hear it. I remember as a young kid, Robert, who is, like my brother, he lived with us for a long time because his family. was you know it just it was a rough childhood and we had to go into the bar and pick his dad up and take him back home and and you know and it was it was not a place where you want teenagers uh to go into and that that really divey bar but it's really um it really showed me something that i've always carried with me first of all you don't go into a place like that alone you got to have somebody you're going in with and if you don't go into that place, you're not going to be able to pull anybody out. You can't stand outside and preach

and, you know, stand there and call everybody inside a sinner. You've got to go into the problem together and be able to speak the language. And I think if I haven't seen your movie yet, I'm going to go see it tonight. But if that's what you've done, that's genius. Really genius. Well, you'll see that there is their powerful human interest. dimensions to the story. For example, this is also a movie about a wife whose husband is trapped in this horrible situation abroad, and the U.S. government can't or won't do anything about it. And so she's got to go herself. And so she basically puts on the handkerchief around her head and gets on a plane and goes to Iran. And so it has that relationship dimension, which I think is what makes a movie strong.

So our idea here was to make a really entertaining and fun movie, a thrill ride from start to finish, that also packs a lot of information. And because it's ripped out of the headlines, it gives it an authenticity that so many other movies lack. Well, I'm glad to hear it, Dinesh. Great to have you on. Let me switch subjects here. By the way, the name of that movie is Infidel. It opens in theaters nationwide today. You can find more about it at the website infidel911.com.

Dinesh D'Souza, did you see the president? speech, I know you're so busy right now with the movie, but did you happen to see or read anything about the president's speech at the National Archives yesterday? No, I saw quite a bit of it. Okay, good. I'd love to hear your thoughts. Well, I think this is, it to me, was just breathtaking in a way because it showed me that not only is Trump a man of the culture, and we've known for a long time that, unlike other

Republicans who focus on legislation and seem to be deracinated from the culture, almost like they live in a bubble. Trump is a man who swims in the culture. He surfs on the waves. But what impressed me was his attentiveness to the detail of what the left is doing. Critical race theory, the 1619 project. I mean, Trump was all over it. And that suggests that this is a guy who fights in the trenches.

And I could not be more happy or impressed by that. I thought this was a fulfillment of Ronald Reagan's farewell address. You know, he said if we don't pay attention, there's going to come a day when we lose America. And we've got to teach it as parents and stand up to our schools. And that's exactly what he was saying last night. But he put teeth in it. He's like, we're going to stand up. Yes. And I think long term, Glenn, I think you know, we have to create our own educational institutions, our own entertainment, our own media. We're not going to live in their world. That's the simple fact of the matter. So either we're going to have a balanced presentation of

ideas or we're out of there. What does that mean to you, Dinesh? Well, I think it ultimately is an alternative to civil conflict, because civil conflict, ultimately you can't be citizens if you don't share the same basic priorities. Why? Because you're not going to fight for me, and I'm not going to fight for you. So ultimately, how do we subsist in this one America if we're really two different people? See, when I came to America in the 70s, Glenn, I thought American politics was an argument

between people who had the same goals, but different means. Yes. But now it's pretty obvious that there are a lot of people. people who want to live in a completely different country than we do. So the truth of it is we can't meet them halfway per se because they want to go to Chicago. We want to go to Maine. So how do we coexist? Well, I think the answer is the only way that I can think of is that we each create our own space,

which is to say, almost you may not call our own subculture and live completely in it. We don't watch CNN. If they say things about Trump, we don't react to them because we've not seen them and we don't even care. You can't do that in a United States, though. That's really secession. Well, it is a sort of cultural and emotional secession, but think about it this way. We keep saying we. We say we, they say we.

We need health care. We say we need this. But think about it this way. Is it really true that the national anthem today is still their anthem? No. No. Is it true that the flag is their flag? No.

So the truth of it is we don't really have an amendment. American flag anymore. We have our flag, but it's not their flag. I wish I could say you were wrong, Donesh, but I think, unfortunately, you're right. Now, what do we do about it? I guess that's what the next few years are all about. How confident are you that we hold together through this election with everything that the left is doing to advance riots on the streets and chaos in the voting the booth? Well, they're behaving like the South behaved in 1860. I mean, they're desperate.

I think they're fear that they're going to take an incredible beating, and so they're almost planning for it, and they're planning to go berserk afterward, just the way that sort of South Carolina did before the 1860 election. So the bottom line is our politics has become very nasty. They're trying to sort of subdue us, and we realize that the only way to stop them is to subdue them. And so this notion that works sort of fellow citizens in this together, I think has become, at the very least, quite afraid.

Wow. Dinesh, super, super clear. It is good to talk to you. Good to talk to you. Best of luck on the movie Infidel. Opens today nationwide. Don't miss it. I'm going to be there and watch it myself. Good friend of the program, Jim Caviesel, is the star. He is always really good. great story from Dinesh DeSouza. Thanks, Dinesh. My pleasure. You bet. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. We have Adam Carolla with us now.

Hi, Adam. Hey, thanks for having me. You bet. Your movie is coming out this weekend. No safe spaces. It's coming out on DVD. It's worth seeing. Everybody should check it out.

But you also did CancelCon yesterday. And didn't Facebook try to cancel your app? for cancel con? Yeah, they did. Or they did cancel the ads. It's always ironic. It's ironic when they're engaged in the behavior. You're accusing them of engaging in,

and they're explaining to you that they don't engage in that behavior. You know, it always reminds me to this. And Glenn, you must have had this happen somewhere in your career, where you have some young employers. and you go, I have to fire you because your attitude is bad appropriate. They go, screw you, old man. Right. You go, this is what I'm talking.

Yes. There are times when there are times because if you've ever had to fire somebody, it tears you apart. But there are some that you fire and they respond that way and you're like, yeah, that was, I made the right call there. Absolutely made the right call. But not only did I, I didn't make the right call because they were late. They're actually engaging in the behavior that I'm firing them while I'm firing that.

It's exactly right. And you know, the thing about, you know, social media and Twitter and Facebook and everything, here's, here's my example, conservative, know everyone, and they do everything, but it's always conservative people, right? And then at some point, mistake. Yeah, we had a little problem with the algorithms. Sorry. So here's my question. It's basically, like you go into a diner and every time you pay the cash here, she short changes you. Change me every time and she goes, oh, the cash register is broken. And then my answer would be if the cash register is broken, wouldn't I get extra change half the time? And wouldn't other customers?

Wouldn't every customer? Why is it just me? That's my point. Wouldn't AOC get shortchanged? Right. But broken, why isn't it broken for every day? right right well it's pending review uh so that case is active we're we're actively looking into it so uh well we'll get back to you on that one so why did they why did they cancel the ads why

for cancel con i gotta be honest with you and i'll tell you i'm not a and i think you're this way too and i think a lot of folks like us are which is i got that word and the first and i didn't want to go on my program and start bitching and moaning about unfairly being whatever yeah yeah i said to my i said that i said to the producers of no safe spaces i said me send me the ad send me the stuff facebook pulled off because if it said you know you know we're in war with black people like hitler yeah right whatever said something right i said go for find it. And then I told my producer, I want you to read the ad. I want you to see we can flag anything on there. And then he said, I didn't see anything bad on there. And then I said to my

producer, I said, here's what I want you to do. I want you to try your hardest to make their case. I want you to go make their case to me. I don't want you to make me right. I want you to make their case. What is the reason if you were arguing for Facebook, what is the reason you would say you did it because I want all the information. I don't want to just go in there. My side. I'll show you to play devil's advocate. And I hope you do that with your producers as well.

I do. I do. I want their side of the argument. I don't want anything to come back and get me later on. I want you to make an argument. Pretend you work for Facebook. Now go to it. Couldn't find anything, by the way.

At least we tried. So here's one, very similar. There was a call that was leave. from Ukraine, a phone call between Poroshenko and Joe Biden right after Donald Trump won. Have you heard the call? No, I don't think I've heard it. Okay. Can we play that, please?

The people they put forward to be part of the transition have to be clear to do that, just as we had to be cleared after the Bush of this. Okay, so it goes on from there. But here he is saying, look, I can't tell you about things because there's an investigation going. It looks like there's some crazy stuff happening. But it also stopped me from telling them about what we've been doing. So, you know, just be really careful because they don't know what we've been doing yet. I don't know.

That seems pretty bad. But this has been now erased. Yeah, go ahead. Oh, can I defend Biden? Yeah. He was just reading what was in the teleprompter. No, he doesn't. No, he doesn't read the teleprompter.

He doesn't use one. Oh, I thought they'd just loaded up the time. Right. So this has been a race from YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, all shadow band. We had to go on the dark web and grab this. This was actually, I think what we ended up doing was going on a VPN and, you know, saying we were in Russia and got it off of YouTube there because it's still up in Russia, still up in the Ukraine, but not here. It's not a deep fake, but here's what they said. This is their response on why it had to be banned.

It is certainly an influence campaign. It's misleading to an audience that doesn't have the full picture. Since when is that the standard? Well, it's interesting. Their new thing is say the information is not accurate, and then in the event, it is accurate, then say it's out of country. context. Right. They need more contact. Now, I don't, I don't know, how can you get more context out of 30

seconds if it's just 30 seconds of an ad campaign or Twitter or a sound bite of a phone recording? Like, where's the context? Well, obviously, there's not much context to short form things. And, but it's weird. So they go from inaccurate to not enough context. I think there's a third strata, which is because your father said so. How do you think this is going to end up in November? Do you think we're headed towards an impasse here? The way I kind of feel about this stuff is in what we're talking about, in the news and how they're in the bag for Biden and social media and stuff like that,

it may work, it will work, it does work in the short term. You know what I mean? Like you running this campaign. So I believe that CNN is kind of making a deal with the devil. And I also kind of believe a lot of these news outlets and a lot of this social media, I think they're making a deal with the devil, which is like, This is good short term, but big picture. Like, I work with a whole bunch of young guys.

And I said to them the other day, CNN, if you were watching CNN five years ago or three years ago or eight years ago, what did you think when you thought that's what happened? And I said, when you watch CNN today, how do you feel? And they go, well, I feel like I have to investigate and get the other side of the story. that's what CNN is doing to themselves. Also, CNN outlets for star. A lot of votes with the Daily Wire yesterday. And I said, Ann Bongino is because of what they're doing. I'm telling you, I think they will have played a huge role in the re-election of Donald Trump should he win.

I do, too. Yeah. Six months from now, in terms of what their role was in a negative way. Right. It's sort of like that. And for Trump, it's sort of like what the rioters and the looters were doing for the Democrats. Like, just stop.

Yeah. Just stop and so more of this. You're actually pushing people in their direction. Yeah. Yeah. Adam Carolla, thank you so much for being on with us. The movie comes out on DVD. If you haven't seen it, you really need to.

It's really, really, really good. And it's available on DVD right now. Thank you very much. No safe spaces is the name of it. Thanks, Brian.