The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program | Guests: Dr. Robert Malone & Mark Morgan | 6/25/21

Episode Date: June 25, 2021

Former school board member Simon Campbell joins after his explosive testimony in defense of the First Amendment went viral. Dr. Robert Malone, who invented mRNA vaccines, joins after being silenced for warning that information about the COVID-19 vaccines is being hidden from you. Former acting CBP commissioner Mark Morgan talks VP Kamala Harris’ trip to the border and the firing of Border Patrol head Rodney Scott. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the podcast. Today we talk to Simon Campbell. He was, he's a member of the community that decided to go in front of the school board and talk to them about some of the concerns he had about what they were teaching. You're going to want to hear his video that went viral, but then also talking to him. He's much more calm on the phone, but really interesting guy. Also have another relatively interesting guy, Bill O'Reilly on the program. today. He's got a lot to talk about, including some stuff with Tucker Carlson that we'll get into. And Glenn has a show today on Blaze TV. Blase TV.com slash Glenn. Promocode is Glenn. You'll save 10 bucks on your subscription. He's got a special for subscribers only. And, you know, Glenn, when he left Top 40 radio, one of the reasons he did that, he always says, is like, I got sick of talking about Britney Spears all the time. Now he's back to talking about Britney Spears. Full circle moment for

Glenn's career today on Glenn TV, her whole situation. And there is really some interesting stuff going on about, you know, freedom for people who want it. And it's an interesting story. He's going to get into that today. Brand new Stu Does America as well. Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast. Five stars is the appropriate number of stars when you review it. We appreciate that. And click on Studio Does America as well and subscribe there. Here's today's podcast. You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck program. Highlights, at least of my week, was listening to a guy.

He's a former member of the Pensbury Pennsylvania School Board. He spoke up about the draconian moves that the school board was taking to silence free speech. I want you to listen to a part of this, and then I'm going to introduce you to Simon. Now, you snowflakes apparently have a bigger problem with public comment. It seems to me that you think you can supersede the United States Constitution. Well, I've got news for you, School Board President Benito Mussolini.

Your power does not supersede that of the US Constitution and the First Amendment rights of the citizens of this great nation. Let's be very, very clear who has the power. It is not government policy. I will warn you at this moment. If you interrupt my time, do not interrupt my time. Do not interrupt my time. This is my comment, not your comment. I'm quoting to you now from the United States Supreme Court

1964 case New York Times v. Sullivan. This is constitutional case law in this country. And I'm quoting you from the U.S. Supreme Court. The judges wrote that this nation is founded on the, quote, profound national commitment to the principle that debate on public issues shall be uninhibited, robust and wide open, and that it may well include vehement, caustic, and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attacks on government and public officials. That's constitutional case law in this nation. I don't have to be nice to you. Nobody behind me has to be nice to you. If you don't like

living in the United States of America, then you can all move to Russia, Cuba or China. This is the First Amendment. Well, this guy is incredible. I will caution you, Solicitor. There is a video camera to my left. If you edit this tape, then you're going to have a big legal problem on your hands. Because my right to critique your fascism, which is what this is, is constitutionally protected. There are emails, public record emails in which the Director of Equity is lobbying and advocating for public comment to be censored in this school district. And you know what?

Okay, stop. This, I understand, and I'm going to bring Simon Campbell in. Hello, Simon. How are you? Good morning, Glenn. Thanks for having me on. I want you to know that I'm very calm today. I've had my cup of tea, so I should be good.

You were fantastic, but tell me if this is true. I have heard that that was spur of the moment. You didn't have any planned remarks. This happened because you talked to. a mom in the hallway before the meeting started. Is that true? That's absolutely correct. You can tell I was not reading off of the script. I'm known locally as a little bit of an activist, a loudmouth, but I was talking to this everyday mom in the entranceway of the school board meeting. She had wanted to speak at the earlier meeting in May,

but she had witnessed the thuggery that had taken place at that meeting. And by the way, we're trying to get the tape of that meeting because apparently it's even worse than what happened with me, where the school solicitor, who's supposed to be the taxpayer-funded council, is the one doing the dirty work of these radical fascists. When I say dirty work, shouting people down, saying you can't speak, and then editing and cutting the tape of the school district's meeting. So she told me, in the entrance way, she was too intimidated in the month before, and she's an ordinary everyday mom, too intimidated in this country to express your views to the government. And I said to myself, right, they've got it coming.

And that's kind of what happened. Holy cow. And just this doesn't sound like a Brooklyn accent. And knowing that, I think, that your favorite politician was Margaret Thatcher. You're from the UK. How long have you been here? And do you realize you probably know more about freedom than the average American? Well, I've been here since 2004, and I was naturalized in January 2009.

And I always make the point, that day when I was naturalized, there was about 60 of us in Philadelphia, from over 30 countries, many of whom had tears in their eyes, their family members and friends were there. And you really get a sense in that room of what it means to be an American. And so I always think about that moment when I'm mouthing off like I did at the school board meeting, that here you have people who have escaped from me. you know, knows what kind of countries that are finally free. So, you know, for me, I was born and raised in the UK. My favorite politician of all time is Margaret Thatcher, as my parents would say, you can't say her name without raising the glass, you know, raise the glass. But, yeah, I mean, I was on that school board and, you know, I got hammered because I wasn't the biggest fan of the teachers union. And I just took it in stride because that's what you do in America. You're a public official. You know, they called me the bastard child of Margaret Thatcher.

I thought it was the greatest compliment ever. So, you know, these snowflakes. They don't like it. So tell me your stance on what is happening there beyond the, why are they trying to hide things from the public? Why are they trying to silence? What is going on in your community? Well, I, I, there's a local activist group of parents. guests that are upset around what's become known as critical race theory or these books in this

curriculum and the the school district has has promoted someone to this position they call director of equity diversity and education i think that's a ridiculous job title i don't know what these job titles mean to you know but anyway they're all upset about the proposed book what it just sounds like a lot of bollocks to me and by the way that's not a rude word because it comes with my favorite album. But they were all upset about this. And I came along and they were telling me about how they were being shouted down in the May meeting, the one that we haven't got the tape for. Apparently the school solicitor was saying things like, you're not allowed to say critical race theory. Now, we're trying to get the videotape of this. So this thuggery is going on. And I show up

at this sort of parents' house ahead of the school board meeting. And I said, okay, well, what you all need to do when we're kind of going over the tactics, speak at public time. They're not allowed to shut you up. They can't silence you. This is America. You know, sort of like trying to help out with how to deal with these people. So I don't know why they are cutting the tape. So if you have a Penn Street School District's website for the May meeting and the March meeting, they've literally cut out speakers who spoke at public comment on this issue. Cut them off the tape. I'm just like, I have got images in my head of 1930s Germany, burning books, banning speech.

And for me personally, before I even get into the critical race theory debate, I'm in, we've got fascists in my local community head thinking. You know, and so I just got all riled up on the First Amendment side of it, but clearly they don't want a discussion on this, otherwise it wouldn't be kind of the same. Some people would hear you call somebody fascist and they'll say, okay, that's overdramatic. Why are you using that word? Well, because they are. If we have emails, I put them on my YouTube channel.

The director of equity, this is the lady that crafted a press release behind the scenes. We got all the information behind the right to know law inside the government, where a citizen had spoken in March, very soft-spoken citizen, not a loudmouthed Brit like me, just against the policy agenda, right? and this director of equity, the tolerance lady, goes to the school board president and the superintendent and says, that guy's a racist. The way that he spoke at public comment in March was like a racist dog whistling. Here's how we need to shut him down and others like him. And I think it would be good if the school board president put out a public statement.

So the public statement from the school board president going out to the whole community basically accusing in this guy of being a racist. When he isn't, I've met him, he's a lovely, nice bloke. And I'm seeing as watching this going on. How can you have a society, a freedom, a place called America, where the government is itself issuing, come down and speak against us. We're going to shame you. We're going to name you. We're going to call you a racist. We're going to put out public press statements. And we're going to cut you from the videotape. Now, if that's not fascism, Glenn, you tell me what is fascism. Simon, why did you come to America?

And what's going through your mind as you're watching your new country now, go down this path? Well, I came to America because my wife's from Brooklyn and she married. We met in England and so she brought back a permanent souvenir. So when I came, I just go back to the naturalization ceremony. That's where you get a sense of what America's about. That's where you get, because they give you this book at the ceremony, you know, and it said something. I always remember this one quote. This is former presidents of America, and they give you these quotes, these inspirational quotes.

And the one from Reagan stood out to me the most. He said something like, you can move to France, but you'll never become a Frenchman. You can move to Italy, but you'll never become an Italian. You said that anyone from any corner of the world can move to America and become an American. And I think that that quote sums it up for me because America is about a set of ideals. It's not about who you are, what you look like, what your immigrant background is, what your skin color is, it's about an idea and the idea is freedom. And so when I see the most repugnant attack on freedom in my local community, and I can tell you, this has riled everybody up in my community. well, I guess it's gone viral now.

I mean, I don't even, quite frankly, my head spinning with this whole thing. I didn't, I got like, you know, 100 people on my YouTube channel. I put this up there. And my daughter's like, Dad, you're at 1.2 million on TikTok. I'm like, what? Wow. Wow. Wow.

Well, I think people are thirsty for it. Real quick, can you speak directly to the parent or to the American that is still perhaps on the sideline wants to stand up, but they just don't want to, they don't want to face this. They don't want to be a part of it. They don't want, they're afraid their kid will be singled out or whatever. Talk to that person for a second. Yeah. The thing I would say is take 10, 20, 30 of your friends with you and do not back down and videotape them.

Most public school boards are required to be open to the public. And in Pennsylvania, I'm sure in other states, you can video record these people. And when you actually show them what they're doing, silencing microphones, telling people you're racist. When ordinary Americans see the government behaving that way, that's when it's no longer a conservative liberal issue. That's when it's, are you American or not? And I think that ordinary citizens, take your cell phones down. Go go hunting packs, if you will. You know, take 10, 20, 30 people there.

We probably had 100 parents at that school board meeting, most of whom had never been to one before. And I think there's just power in numbers because no matter what one's position is on a policy, when the government is silencing people, intimidating them, that's when the radical left lose mainstream America. Simon, thank you so much. I hope we get an opportunity to speak again. Thank you for what you're doing in your community, and I'm proud that you're an American. Welcome.

Thanks a lot, glad. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. Dr. Robert Malone, he is the inventor of the MRNA vaccine technology. He has been speaking out about the effects, possible effects, of this COVID vaccine. We welcome him to the program. Doctor, how are you? Good. Thank you, Mr. Beck.

for the opportunity to speak to your wide audience and yourself about these various issues of censorship and free speech and bioethics and government transparency. I have to tell you, one of the things that I am really concerned about in our world of advancing technology is I don't think people have enough conversations on the ethics. of what we're doing, the ethics of what we're experimenting with, and what the ramifications will be of some of this new technology. And it's disturbing because we're entering places where no man has ever gone before. And we're just trying things out. And it sounds awfully dangerous. As you've noted, I'm always skating on the thin ice of censorship.

and and right the professional in this area I work with the government quite a bit it's how I make my living and and Glenn please understand I'm not somebody who seeks media attention this has been thrust on me because my friend Brett Weinstein had me on his dark horse podcast and it went viral um it hit 800,000 people before YouTube pulled it down a week later and uh ever since then I have hardly had a life my social media media accounts have exploded. I'm constantly getting calls from patients and doctors. And somehow I become somebody who can give voice to a lot of the concerns that the medical community has worldwide, but is not able to talk about. And the bioethics has been one of the other key kind of wedges. I think it was on Dark Horse when the point was raised, you know, this metaphor of the red pill. And for a lot of folks, if they think through the bioethics part, then suddenly it opens their mind and they say, oh, this isn't right.

And a lot of times they know it intuitively that something doesn't feel right about how this is being handled. But when they kind of get the tools, you walk them through the logic, then they get it. So walk us through the logic. Yeah, so it's really simple. I'll try to say it quick. We can get into the weeds of it, but these are the main high points. First off, these, all of the vaccines in the United States are under emergency use authorization. So I can tell you as a professional in regulatory affairs and clinical development, what that means is they're all experimental. So the statements that this is the largest experiment ever performed on human beings in terms of a medical intervention, that's all true. That's not hyperbole. It's just the fact. they're not yet licensed. Therefore, they fall under a federal law called the Common Rule.

It's in the CFR. You can look it up. And that goes all the way back to the Nuremberg Code, et cetera, through to the present. And it has three main precepts. Number one, there has to be full transparency, full, just like when you open a bottle of aspirin on the TV. And, you know, 10 seconds of the ad is about the drug. and it says about all the caveats of the things that can happen. And you'll recall that it gets down into the weeds.

It talks about things that hardly would ever happen. That's the level of disclosure about risk that you have to be given by federal law if you're going to participate in any kind of a clinical experiment, which is what this is. That's point number one. Full disclosure of risk. Point number two, we can't hide those risks behind fancy medical words. So I can throw all kinds of medical jargon at you and make your. headspin about dysmenorrhea, for instance, or a number of other terms that relate to thrombocytopenia.

How many of you know what those things mean? Okay. Well, what it means is the first one that your men see is irregular, and the second one means that your blood platelets are low and you're in danger of clotting and having strokes and stuff like that. Okay. So the second part of the rule is that these risks have to be conveyed in common language so that a person of about eighth grade education can understand it. There has to be comprehension. Third part of the rule, let's get straight at the kind of liberties

that we all fortunately still share here in the West. You have to freely consent to taking the agent. You cannot be coerced. What is coercion? Coercion is, oh, we're going to give out ice cream and so that all the kids can come and we can give them jabs without getting the parents' consent. That's one form. Another form is, In Canada, for example, they have a policy that communities have to stay on lockdown until at least 70% of them have taken them jab. That's called coercion. It's not allowed. You have to consent to participate in medical experimentation of your own free will.

Last little caveat. You ever heard of the age of consent? And here in the States, it's usually about 18. What that means is people that are under the age of consent cannot give informed consent. They must have informed consent provided by a parent or guardian. Those are the rules. It's in the federal law. So that's my quick and dirty on bioethics.

We can go on and on about it. There's a lovely video from Tony Fauci that somebody pointed out to me on a podcast where he goes all over this in detail. So we can't say that the federal government and the leadership is not aware of the fundamentals of bioethics. Over? So they would say, though, that, you know, we have an emergency and we have got to do something. And that always leads to trouble when we have to do something. And I'm not anti-vaccine.

But, you know, I don't feel like we're getting all of the information. And they haven't even said, you know, what about people who have already had COVID? I mean, I have natural immunity. I know that instinctively. but they keep changing and not wanting to talk about those people. Instead, you're just supposed to get the vaccine. And so something does feel wrong. If you want to take the vaccine, you should be able to take the vaccine.

But if not, if you don't want to take it or you don't want your kids taking it, you shouldn't have to. Bigos, the state doesn't own your body. And I want to underscore what you just say. I, you know, I also live in Twitterverse, et cetera, in addition to trying to be a professional. And many people, there are those who assert that I'm an anti-vaxxer. Come on, guys. I invented this technology 30 years ago. I've spent my entire career advancing vaccines.

I was seminal in the development of what we now call the Merk Ebola vaccine. Okay. I have a thoughtless track record in terms of advancing vaccine technology. However, I'm pro-rights. I'm pro-ethnic. I'm pro-onesty. And I'm pro-science. They have had from the outbreak.

And I've been through too many of these outbreaks. I know how it is at the start. There's no information, and everybody has to use expert opinion. We're way past that. Right. And what we've had, well, sorry, here in D.C., we call them Govies, of substituting their opinion for what they think is right or best for actually. for actual fact-based gets him in trouble again and again.

And if you don't believe me, all you got to do is look at the Tony's email account. All right. So you're not anti-vaccine, clearly. And are you saying that no one should have this vaccine or that we should just be aware of some of the side effects? Not saying these vaccines are saving lives. And thanks for letting me just hit that head on. Okay. Right.

What I have in Glenn, it, it, I mentioned this. on Tucker's show and I'd like to amplify it just a little bit on your show if you don't mind. And I checked in with some FDA colleagues last night just to make sure that I was still representing what they understand to be truth. The situation in which the data is to capture the adverse events. That's the bad stuff that heading to the vaccine. It may or may or may not be related. Okay.

The databases that are supposed to capture this are a train wreck. They're very poor quality here in the States. And so when the CDC says that we have this data, the other incidents in adolescence, they're basing that on what, by their own admission, is really faulty data. We talk about VAERS. There's also the V-safe system. So that is the core problem here, is that we don't have good information to make calculations about risk benefit for different populations.

And that folks like you, me, and your listeners, don't have full transparency about what those potential adverse events are. That's not legal. They are obligated to share it with us. My argument is not that you've seen. My argument is that you have the right to know and make your own informed decision. That's the federal law. It's real simple and straightforward. Now, I do have concerns about some of the adverse events that are happening. I do have concerns. And I think that that particularly the Moderna vaccine, particularly roll out re-engineered vaccines that are, that no longer have some. some of these issues, the adenovirus and the MRNA, they're both based on gene therapy,

to look at re-engineering some of those. And I think for those of you in the audience who are not comfortable taking a genetic-based vaccine, like the ones that are currently available, I gently suggest, and I have no conflict of interest, no stock, and Novavax. But Novavax is a much more traditional vaccine product. and if you don't want to go down the RNA or Advctor road, I think there's a good chance that the Novavax product is going to get clearance under EUA, not without hope.

You're not left with vaccine or no vaccine. Remectin, as some people like Brett advocate, there's other options coming. So I just want to give that message out. So you were just talking about a spike in protein. Respond to this. Reuters just ran first. fact check COVID-19 vaccines are not. What is it cytotoxic? Cytotoxic. Yeah. So I really, they followed actually put a pull. The others comes out. By the way, trusted news initiative when we get to talking about sensors.

They ran this and they did it based on statements that are really carefully worded and a little obtuse. We go to the scientific literature. Oh, and I'm learning more and more is with the mainstream media, they've all gotten lazy. And they seem to think that it's a. okay to just parrot whatever their colleagues in the media have said before, as opposed to actually going to the peer-reviewed scientific literature, which clearly, unambiguously, multiple peer-reviewed public talk institute, my alma mater, all say that carefully worded, the native spike protein is cytotoxic. It does open the blood brain barrier. It is probably associated with the blood coagulation based on the Singapore paper that just came out reporting the

adverse event of blood clots in the brain in far too many people than it should be happening in after mRNA vaccination. Okay, so you made it really easy for me to fact check the fact checkers. Stop open pub bed, do a search and cite the peer-reviewed literature. You're wrong. Now, what was done, this is the, here's the truth. Okay. Then I get the comments. Oh, but they engineered the spike protein for these vaccines so that it's not toxic. The problem with that is that that would require time travel because they didn't know at the time that they were doing the engineering that these cytotoxicity and other effects happened. We did do some engineering, I'm not sure that that engineering didn't make it more

toxic. I don't know if it made it less toxic. Here's the point. The way it works in drug development is kind of like the fredge judicial system. You're guilty until proven innocent. It's assumed that it's toxic until it's proven not to be toxic. So if you're going to say that the stuff that's expressed in these gene therapy, based vaccines. The native spike obligation to prove it. Now, I've invited people, peer-reviewed literature, any documentation that shows that FDA has forced the pharma or pharma has published or the NIH that engineered the NIH vaccine research center that engineered the moderna vaccine. It's not toxic. The data aren't there. I've never seen it. I would be I'd be overjoyed to see it. Then I could

put that concern to rest. It talks like a duck. It looks like a duck. It looks like a duck. it quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. And the fact that we have this overlap between the symptoms of COVID, the symptoms of long COVID associated with the post-vaccination syndrome with the adenovectors, and some of the symptoms, more rare, perhaps less severe, that also are cropping up with the MRIs. What's the common variable? It is the spike open reading frame protein. Does that make sense?

We are, we're talking to the guy who invented the RNA vaccination or the, the M RNA vaccination. And he has been silenced. Doctor, we have only scheduled a half hour here. May I ask you to come back? Because there's so much more to this story and I will clear my schedule. So, okay, we'd love to do that. I got to tell you, I get flack about going on conserved media. Conservative media are the ones that are interested in these topics of free speech,

freedom of information, personal rights. If CNN wants to invite me on, I'll be glad to be on. I have to tell you, Dr. This is not a conservative, this is not a political issue. This is a science issue, and we should all be looking for the truth, especially when we are putting things into people's bodies. and not getting the full truth. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

Hey, everybody. Kamala Harris is finally going to the border. She's going to get to the bottom of it. I'll bet she finds global warming down there. Mark Morgan is the former acting Customs and Border Patrol Commissioner. We wanted to get him on the phone and get his thoughts on what happened to to the latest commissioner of the Border Patrol, who's just been relieved of his duty.

What happened there? Also, what does he expect to be happening with Kamala Harris on her border trip? Mark, welcome to the program. Go ahead and thanks for having me. I really appreciate it. You bet. So give me your thoughts. First of all, what's happening on the border that Americans aren't really aware of

because it's not being covered. And what happened with the latest head of Border Patrol when he was let go? Well, going first. Let me talk about what's happening at the border. I think what the Americans don't know, look, I'm going to be direct because I don't know any other way to be because this administration just flat out blatant lies. It's beyond the political spin and misdirection. It's just flat out lies.

And I think what's really important is when we talk about secure in our borders, Glenn, you know this. I've heard you talk about this countless times. It's not just about the illegal immigration threat that we face and that crisis. When you have borders that are unsecure, those borders, our borders are unsecure to the vast common threats that we face from outside our borders, whether that's criminal aliens coming through and making their way right to every neighborhood. The drugs pouring through our southwest border making their way to every neighborhood. and I could go on and on. That is instances of this country.

That's why border is secure and that the threats we face, the issues that we face do not stay in our southwest border state. They make their way into every town city and state right now. And it's a total, a catastrophic, unmitigated crisis on the southwest border. And now, so let me switch. So Rodney Scott. So I was actually the former commissioner of customs and border protection. Rodney Scott is actually the chief of the Border Patrol, which is a component within...

This is important, Glenn. And I really appreciate you bringing this up, is that as the chief of Border Patrol, he has about 20,000 men and women underneath him. He is responsible, directly responsible, ultimate for... Here's the key. It's a career position of a law enforcement executive. It's not a political appointee position. You will find no other federal agency in this government where career officials are treated like political appointees. these. This man has a 29-year career. I know him. He's a man of integrity and he's a man of courage.

And in this position, he has pushed back on this administration. He's been very honest and open about his criticisms with respect to what they're doing and how it's an impact in their ability to secure our borders. And this secretary, DHS Secretary, Majoricus, if he cannot bully someone, a career official, if he can't turn a career official into no more than a puppet to further his open border policies, he's getting rid of him. And that's what he's done. There's no disciplinary action. He's not doing it for cause. He's simply doing it because he can't bully Rodney. It's all political. And we should be absolutely outraged that this has happened to a career law

enforcement. How rare is this for this to happen? Glenn, I've been doing this for years in the FBI. And I can tell you, you can take this to the bank, that you could go through all the three-letter, you know, law enforcement agencies, whether that's HSI under ICE, did ever been done that they've gone to this level of a career law enforcement agency and they've been removed. So why is he,

why was he fired and removed? Was it because he was just a thorn in the side or that he knew what was going on? There was problems within that he was trying to stop the administration from doing that we don't know of what, is the whole story just that he was a thorn in the side of the Biden administration? Yeah, Glenn, I think you do a good job, but just describing it.

Yeah, look, right now, the act you'll take my position acting right now. And this is hard for me to say, but I have to be honest, he is not pushing back on this administration. The political appointees are running the organization just like there are ice. Right. He is signing off on everything. He's just a throughput. He's not pushing back. He's not giving him a sound.

advice and guidance. He's not telling them that the policies are not effective for border security that's enabling to impact our national security. Roddy did that. Now look, Roddy, because he served under six administration, both Republican and Democrat. Now, at the end of the day, he's going to carry out their policies, as he's always done. But as American citizens, Rodney impotomized exactly what we hear official is that give his, this is what's going to happen. If they ignore it, they ignore it, and he'll implement his directed. But that's not what they want. That's not enough. They want a throughput. They want a throughput. They want a a puppet. They want somebody they can bully in control. Robbie's not that guy. That's why they're

getting rid of them. Well, it's interesting to me because this is almost a continuation of a conversation I was just having with Dr. Robert Malone. He's the inventor of the MRNA vaccine technology. And he's not anti-vaccine. I mean, he invented this technology. He is, he's not saying that it's deadly and no one should take it. He's saying, hey, there's some concerns, but my biggest concern is they're hiding things from you. And it, it, it, not necessarily life and death stuff they're hiding. They're just hiding things. And they are silencing anyone who has a different opinion or just says, hey, the fact should be known here. That's a dictatorial government. And it sounds like that's exactly what's happening on the border. Glenn, as you were talking, I wish you could see me right

now, which your listeners can see me, I've got a big smile on my face because I couldn't, I couldn't have come up with a better analogy. That's exactly right. Look, like you said, I've been doing this for a long time. Every's the highest levels of leadership positions in federal law enforcement in this country. I demanded, I made sure that that I surrendered myself with people that were not yes people, that people that have their own mind, that people based on their own experiences, would, where I would come to the table and say, and I demand you, but you disagree with me. You tell me, and you can see you can say okay sir you can still be professional right and say ideas why i disagree with you i always said that then you got to come with a justification and a reason and a solution that's that's the type of leader

that rodney scott is and but that's exactly what this secretary of myericus don't want any air in france he doesn't want anybody to say anything that's against his radical open border ideological uh a viewpoint that anything to stop their agenda and i tell you can tell i'm fired up because And the other thing, too, is I know Nagy Scott. He's a good man, Glenn, and this is wrong. I mean, I mean, they've gotten the highest senior executive service performance evaluations ever since he was appointed to the SES ranks, the highest marks. There's not been a derogatory performance evaluation.

They cannot point to one issue on his performance evaluation that would justify this. It's all about politics. Let me change subjects. The vice president went down to Latin America and gave some beautiful speeches where she said, don't come, don't come. However, you know, my father used to say, it's not your words, it's your actions. So, son, you can tell me anything, but I see the way you're living your life. I see the way you're acting.

And that's all that matters. I think the same thing can be said for those people who want to come to America illegally or just want to come to America and they find this as an easy path she may say these things but are they taking any steps

to slow this problem down? So, Gila, both of those points are spot on. Look, it's a joke. Let's be honest. I mean, the cartels and human smuggled organizations, I mean, They're laughing at this administration, right? And the words, don't come. It's even worse than that.

Because they're not saying don't come, right? We're talking about those that are intentionally, illegally in our country. They're not saying don't come. They're saying don't come yet, right? So it's even worse in the fact that it's just words. I mean, their own words are telling them to still come. It's just a matter of when you should come. But look, you know, when your policies, the cartels, the human smuggler organizations,

They are complex policies and loophole better than most American citizens. They know that what's being said is irrelevant. It doesn't matter. They know we have a Trump administration and our borders are effectively open. If you're an unaccompanied minor, the borders are open. If you're a family, the borders are open. If you were previously enrolled in the Remain and Mexico program, the borders are now open to you. And I could go on and on.

The cartels know it. The immigrants know it. And they're exploited that every single day. And every time I see that say that. The vice president's trip, she's avoided it and avoided it and avoided it. And then Donald Trump said he was going to go down. And all of a sudden, she's interested in going to the border. What do you expect to see this weekend or anything?

What's going to happen this weekend, do you think? I think we're going to see opportunities and soundbites where she's talking to non-governmental organizations and other open border advocates. You may see her tour an area. that does not have a wall behind it, our facility that is pristine and is not overcrowded. I mean, Glenn, come on, right? Let's be honest.

You just said it. I think the majority of the American people are really honest, see this for what it is. This is all absolutely the White House scrambled around trying to deal with the optics, political optics now being driven because President Trump said he's going. It was just a few days before this vice president was at the southwest border

and making fun of it and calling it. thing. And then after the president Trump said he's going down, now all of a sudden it's important enough for her go down. And look, here's another thing, too. And not semantics. Where she's going, Glenn, is important. She's not going to the Rio Grande Valley.

That's the epicenter of the crisis, the lower part of Texas. This fiscal year, almost 275,000 apprehensions. They're getting the breadth of it. If she really wants to see the crime in El Paso, which is about a thousand miles away, I mean, literally, that would be

like going to a state that just had a catastrophic hurricane and you're going to the outskirts of the town where buildings haven't been impacted rather than going to the heart of the epicenter and standing next to buildings and houses that have been destroyed and talking to the people whose lives have been destroyed instead of people who their house is still intact and they really weren't affected. I mean, that's what it is. Again, it's all form over substance. And going real quick, what we're not going to hear is we're not going to hear her take responsibility for the crisis. We're not going to hear her call at a crisis. We're not going to see her talk to a Democratic elected sheriff for 42 years

that's going to say this is the worst crisis he's ever seen in his history along the southwest border. And the fact that his deputies have recovered over 40 bodies, dead bodies of immigrants. We're not going to hear her talk to, right? We're not going to hear her talk to border security experts, season agents that's just going to say, you know, ma'am, we're getting killed. We've received over 200,000 gotaways this year. People have gotten past us because we're being distracted with providing daycare services to families and kids, leaving large areas of border wide open or the 7,500 apprehensions of criminal aliens they've done or the thousand gang members they've arrested.

And those that get away make themselves into every town, city, and the state, that we're not going to hear. And the last thing I'll say is a stem the flow and address the crisis. We're not going to hear that. Mark Morgan, former acting customs and border protection commissioner, visiting fellow from the Heritage Foundation. Thank you so much for talking to us. And please pass on my feelings to every Border Patrol agent out there. And I think I speak for millions of people on this.

We appreciate what they're going through. We understand as much as we possibly can. And we are behind them. Please don't give up on the rest of America and doing their job. God bless, Mark. Thank you so much.