The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program | Guests: Dr. Voddie Baucham & Dr. Scott Atlas | 7/13/20

Episode Date: July 13, 2020

Glenn and Pat discuss conspiracy theories that Wayfair is trafficking people through cabinet sales. A rapper claims that the Black Lives Matter movement is being pushed by George Soros and not the black community. Dr. Voddie Baucham explains the concept of “woke Shahada” and how the religious aspects of the Black Lives Matter moment have been embraced even by Christians. Hoover Institution senior fellow Dr. Scott Atlas breaks down the reality of COVID-19 and why the science supports reopening schools. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Is there anyone who will stand for the principal? Well, AOC is, I should say that. She's come out this weekend, and she said, all of the violence that is happening in New York City on the streets is all because, well, people don't have enough bread, and they're having to steal bread. Really? Because I haven't noticed the stats of the bakery robberies lately going up.

But we talk about that. Also, Black Lives Matter, how it is in your school. Right now, it is starting to be taught in your children's school. That racism really is caused by white people.

And white is not where it's at. The Marxist infiltration of our school. What the school now the teachers union in California are asking for before they return to school. They said they will not reopen unless a few of their demands are met. Wait until you hear that.

And finally, a doctor who will come out and tell you the truth about coronavirus. All that and more on today's podcast. You're listening to the best of the Glenback program. Very excited about finding out about Wayfair furniture because, man. Are you? Yeah. Yeah, well, I've been buying, I've been buying slave children. Have you from, for a while?

From Wayfair? Yeah. Yeah. From Wayfair, yeah. You just go online and you find the most expensive cabinet. Yeah. And, uh, because no cabinet could cost $14,000. No, that's ridiculous.

Come on. Cost $14,000. Uh, you know, so what you do is you just find the most expensive cabinet and what you're buying are children instead of a cabinet. That is just so bizarre. How. how can that possibly get started with anybody believing it? Come on.

You're, so, okay, okay, so come on. Sorry, didn't know you were part of the government cover-up. Yes, I have. Of Pizza Gate and now Wayfairgate. Yes. Or Cabinet Gate, if you like. Oh, you're talking about the Pizza Gate that's doing the sex trafficking of children in their basement that they don't have in the basement.

That isn't there. Exactly right. Yeah, that one. Exactly right. Yep. So you got that one. And here, here's the,

I mean, look, this is a, this is, there are four storage cabinets. Uh, there that were, you know,

the princess, Princess Peach, 1987, this she, she's from, uh, Reddit and she posted on Reddit. I saw these cabinets.

Uh, it's Wayfares mobile website. And it features products named Nira, uh, your, uh, your, Samaya and Olivia.

And these cabinets cost between $12,699 and $14,49.99. And the only thing that this could possibly be that, I mean, is that these are humans you're buying, not cabinets, because no cabinet would cost $14,000. What a sick and weird conclusion to jump to. Yeah. Yeah, you think? Yeah. Is it possible? This is what she was, this is what she posted.

Is it possible Wayfair is involved in human trafficking with their WFX utility collection? No, it's not. Or are these just extremely overpriced cabinets? There you go. Well, yeah, I think they're just. overpriced cabinets. I don't, I mean, why would it all of a sudden, why would it occur to you that oh, you know what? They're buying people. They're selling people at Wayfair. You know what I think this is? By the way, Wayfair said, of course, there's no truth to these claims. The products in question are

industrial grade cabinets that are accurately priced, recognizing that the photos and descriptions provided by the supplier did not adequately explain the high pipe price point. We have temporarily remove the products from the site to rename them and to provide a more in-depth description and photos that accurately depict the product to clarify the price point. Unbelievable. So what I think this is, is I think this is just another attempt to discredit capitalism, to discredit another capitalist successful corporation. I mean, either that or it's just a really stupid person. But I think it's a,

I think it's equally, equally, um, viable that this is somebody who is a Marxist that just wants to create more chaos and, and more doubt about anything that you can possibly trust. Yeah. Ken, could we,

could we have any more doubts than we do in, in American society, right? We doubt absolutely everything. We doubt capitalism. We doubt our least. leaders. We doubt whether or not the COVID-19 thing is really spiking like it is because you hear all over the place that they're, they're messing with the numbers, bringing back legacy numbers from months ago. They're attaching positive test results to people who

haven't even had tests. I mean, we can't believe anything anymore. We have an expert on that coming up at the top of our three today. If you're part of the COVID, you know, know, confusion and you don't know what's happening. Because honestly, Pat, I don't know what's, I don't know what's real or not anymore. Me neither. I don't know what's real. I don't have any, I don't have any feeling that I should be concerned about COVID, though. Do you?

Yeah, I don't want to be stupid about it. Like, you know, we did a wedding. Correct. I think you know whose wedding it was and it was a great wedding. Yes. But all social distancing kind of went out the window because we're all friends and everybody knows each other. And so you haven't seen each other.

a long time and there's a lot of hugging and shaking and and touching and feeling and I you know I was a little nervous what kind of what was a little nervous sounds like a wow did you have a cabinet from welfare yes yes there was one right in the middle of the dance floor it was really strange right that's weird okay but nobody was wearing masks and and that's fine um because I wasn't wearing one either but I just wasn't expecting the close proximity I think and and so I was a little nervous maybe and I haven't really been but I thought yeah I'm not sure if I want to dive this deep into the

normalcy end of the pool right now I'm not sure I'm ready for that if it was outdoors I think it would have been different you know like if it's a football game or you're going to a baseball game and you're outside I wouldn't worry about that indoors I thought it was a little scary

you wouldn't have been bothered by that You know, I, you would have hugged everybody who people flying all over the world. No, I probably wouldn't. No, I probably wouldn't have hugged everybody, you know, but I'm up here in a small town in Idaho, and I don't see anybody wearing masks. Yeah, I bet not. I bet not. And there's, and there's like one case in the county or something like that.

I mean, it's, it's not a problem. But I'm, I'm just, I'm bothered. You're a hugger. Would you be hugging people if you were back in Dallas? No. Yeah. No. Probably not.

But, you know, I don't want to be stupid, but I also don't want to be played either. I know me too. You know what causes me to distrust all this is how it's come down on party lines. I don't understand that. Yeah, it's crazy. How is that possible? How's that possible? And it's possible because science has so discredited themselves.

that we don't know what's true anymore. We don't just blindly trust science anymore because they've made science political. And once everything in our life is political, I mean, geez, Pat, what isn't political? I think pretty much everything is. I can't think of anything. Yeah, everything is.

Everything is. Everything is. Right. And you've got sports. I mean, why? is sports political? Why? There's no reason for it.

It was brought in to divide us even more. So we can have, I mean, if that line from Michelle Obama, do we have that Michelle Obama line? If that line from Michelle Obama, when she was on the campaign trail with Barack Obama, doesn't come to your

head. Oh my gosh. Listen. And Barack knows that we are going to have to make sacrifices. We are going to have to change our conversation. We're going to have to change our traditions, our history. We're going to have to move into a different place. We've done that. I mean, that's, we've done it all. That's been done. Our conversations are not anything like they used to be. Right. Nothing like they used to be. Our traditions, our history, all of it is going out the window. Look how they made us ashamed,

ashamed of our history. If you celebrated during the 4th of July, you got hammered on Twitter. for it. That's just crazy to me. How did we get here? We got here because we didn't see how big the threat was. We got here because, quite honestly, we didn't listen to warnings like I gave back in the early 2000s of organizations like the Tides Foundation. We didn't dismantle the Tides Foundation. We didn't look into it. We still to this day refused to see George Soros and as a threat. George Soros is a massive threat. Now, he could disappear and be taken into space by aliens. It doesn't matter. It's his money at this point. It's the money of the Ford Foundation. That's what's happening. How is Black Lives Matter sitting in our schools right now? Right now, it's sitting

in our schools waiting to be devoured by our kids. How's that possible? Because of big money like the Ford Foundation and Open Society from George Soros. That's how these things get done. Just to back up what you're saying, let me play for you a real quick interview from Lord Jamar, who's a rapper, and I'd never heard of him before, but the guy makes all kinds of sense. I'm not no Black Lives Matter supporter. You're not?

No, absolutely. Why not? Because it's not our movement. It's the movement that was given to us by, you know, George Soros and his fucking boys. because they saw how things were going and they didn't want it to go back to the 60s to where we start having our own organic movements. That was a big fucking problem for them.

So let's give the people of movement that we can control. We'll provide them the leaders and all of this type of shit. And yeah, that's what Black Lives Matter is. Is that great? I mean, so he's right that it is not a black movement.

It is a gay and lesbian, Marxist, radical movement. Yeah. So that's what that is. But I think it's worse than what he said. He said it was given so we wouldn't start our own movement. No, no. No, it was given because they know they can use the black community. They really believe that the black community is so stupid that they can be used every step

of the way that they can be wrapped up into something like this and nobody's going to look into it and nobody will care and it will help destroy the black community and the United States of America. That's what this is really all about. I mean, you want to talk about a racist movement. It's what the white leadership of Black Lives Matter and the big funders of Black Lives Matter actually believe. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. I'm very concerned, voting about something that is happening here in America.

Actually, the best case of this to highlight happened in Indiana. A priest got up, spoke a sermon, and spoke of good and evil and named Black Lives Matter as evil and actually described why it was evil, and he was accurate. He's now been replaced at his church, and they've got him in some witness protection program or something. And if Catholics and all Christians don't start to stand up, we're in real, real trouble. Yeah, we most assuredly are. It's not just happening there. It's happening all over the country, and I've been saying that it would come for the church.

It has to come for the church. Because if you accept critical theory, which is the foundation upon which Black Lives Matter and all of these different movements is based, if you accept critical theory and the idea that the world and America is divided between oppressors and the oppressed, if you accept their definition of whiteness, of white supremacy, of white privilege, and everything else, then ultimately you have to recognize the fact that the church and Christianity in their eyes is the source of the oppression. So everybody knows that they list off, you know, white male, you know, able-bodied, cisgendered, so on and so forth, you know, when they're talking about the oppressor, the white supremacist, or whatever.

But what a lot of people don't realize is that Christian is part of that list. And so when they talk about America's original sin, and they give me a book about that, title, you know, American, America's original sand by Jim Wallace, you know, when they talk about it, they lay that at the feet of Christianity itself. And so they have to come for the church. And that's why I believe it's so dangerous. And that's why I talked about this idea of the woke shahda, you know, this, you have to say Black Lives Matter. I can't believe how many times I've seen people pressed as to whether or not they would speak the phrase. This is dangerous. So explain because I feel really impressed to start speaking to Christians and start waking Christians up because I think the black community because of their relationship with God and those Christians who are white or of any other color, if they are still attached to God, they are the ones that are the ones that are.

going to repair this because I think we're in we're in the beginning of the end battle it seems this is we are battling evil at a global scale yeah you know and I think you hit the bail in the head and this is my biggest problem I've said that before and I'll say this again my biggest problem with this is that we're moving into a direction that says the church is not the answer. The gospel is not the answer. Christ is not the answer. In fact, the church, the gospel, and Christ are part of the problem. And Black Lives Matter, and, you know, their openly Marxist ideology is the answer. And I know you've gone over this before, but, you know, the idea that these people say we're self-reflexive and do the work required to dismantle cisgender

cisgender privilege, right? That they want to uplift black trans folk, that they want to replace the idea of, or dismantle patriarchal nuclear family structures. These things go to the heart of who we are as Christians. And one of the things that I've been saying for a while is, I love the illustration of social justice movement, which is really the critical social justice movement,

because critical theory is at the core of this. But the critical social... Marxist. It's like a train. It's like a train. And it has multiple cars. And the first car behind the engine is the ethnic car, the racial car, right? Racial justice.

And you get everybody on board with that because nobody wants to be a racist. Everybody wants racial justice. And then behind that, you know, you have gender equality. behind that LGBTQ AI plus and then behind that, you know, a whole host of other things that come along with it. And what worries me is that Christians believe that they can jump on one of those cars, right, the racial justice car, and not be carried along where the rest of the train is going. And that's naive. So why is it we're so asleep, Vody? What's happened to the church?

It's dead asleep. You know, I think there's a couple of things, Glenn. People mean well. Christians hate injustice. So just think about how ingenious it is. This is what Satan does. Think about how ingenious it is the way some of these openly anti-Christian movements name themselves, right? Black lives matter. Oh, I mean, who's going to say black lives don't matter, right? And now all of a sudden you have an organization. that is antithetical to Christianity with a phrase that you feel like, but this is not the first time. Think about planned parenthood. I mean, how deceptive is that? Planned parenthood. Who could be against something called, you know, Planned Parenthood, and so on and so forth. It goes down the line.

This is not something new. And so they get to the heart of, again, Christians, we love God, we love God, we love. love people. We hate racism. If you don't hate racism, check yourself. You're not a Christian. We're part of the body of Christ. We belong to one another. And I talk about that in that racial reconciliation mess. And so if somebody comes and talks about anti-racism and you don't know what they mean by that. You're like, yeah, I'm on board with that. And so Christians are being sucked in because they see injustices, right? Nobody would argue that there are no injustices.

And so Christians have these injustices pointed out, and they're like, yeah, this stuff is wrong. And it's like, okay, cool, we've got an answer for you. And this answer is based in critical theory. And what they've done is they've created an entire vocabulary. It's like there's two books I'm thinking about right now and then been talking about right now. Orwell's 1984 and animal farm. And those two books, you know, fortunately, we don't even read those anymore. People don't even read those anymore in school.

But this is Newspeak. They redefine words so that they don't mean what they used to mean. And then they employ those words in an effort to get their ideology in front of us in ways that seem very, palatable. And before we know it, we're carried along in something that is actually antithetical to the gospel that we hold dear and antithetical to the goals that we have that we think they're going to try, they're going to help us achieve. You know, you bring up 1984, and I started the program today with, you know, let's all remember the slogans of the party. War is peace. Freedom is slavery.

ignorance is strength. And it goes on. Who controls the past, controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past. Everything in, I just reread 1984. Everything in it is happening right now. It is, it's no longer reading fiction. It is reading a newspaper.

Well, but you have to understand, though, that, you know, when you're looking at 1984, and when you're looking at Animal Farm and these books weren't written as pure fiction. These books were written in order to communicate the truth about this same ideology that has been around for a long time and we've seen how this story ends. So the beauty of those books is not just that they're good fiction, but they're fiction that really helped to illustrate what happens when you know, Marxism, communism, you know, first, you know, two legs bad, four legs good, right? You know, then all animals are created equal, and then all of a sudden some animals are more

equal than others. And now you've got the pigs walking on two legs. And by the way, if you don't know animal farm, go get a copy of Animal Farm, read Animal Farm, read 19A4, because, again, these things are very instructive and informative as to these strategies that we're seeing unfold. and people have seen these strategies unfold before. And Newspeak is a really important part of this. Redefining terms is a really important part of it.

This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. Doctor, welcome to the program. How are you? Very well. Thanks for having me. You bet. So I think most Americans are confused, and some people are saying that these numbers going through the roof are bad. I just heard an argument this morning that what's happening, in Florida is happening everywhere. And it's no big deal. This is all about politics. What's the

truth? Well, I mean, I think that everything should be done, of course, by looking at the data instead of just to sort of models or even just allowing fear to go into the exchange here. So if we look at the data, we see there's no question that cases are increasing in many states. and there's a that that's to be expected for for a few reasons. Number one, we have a contagious disease present and when there's more social mingling, there's going to be more cases. And of course, when we test more, we're going to detect more cases. And when we have thousands and thousands of people in the streets protesting and screaming and sharing megaphones, we're going to have more cases. The only question really is, what's the significance of these cases

and how we're going to handle these consequences. First and foremost, the overwhelming majority of people that are getting these cases are younger, healthier people. These are people from the facts, from the evidence, from all over the world, including the United States, are not a significant risk generally from this infection. In fact, the overwhelming majority of people recover fully from the infection. So that's not really the issue. In fact, the issue is only really too.

Number one, we want to do our best to protect the people who are at high risk to actually die from this. And we're not doing that perfectly, of course. We're better at it. I know we're better because we don't see the explosion in death that we would have expected or would have seen in the beginning of this. And, you know, we have learned. So we know that we need to protect the elderly high-risk people, particularly in nursing homes. Now, we as a nation, have failed at doing that from coast to coast. as most countries in the whole world failed.

But the second part of the policy, and the only thing that really is the focus of any so-called flattening of the curve is to prevent hospitals from being overcrowded. This is the point of the policy. The policy was never stop all cases of COVID, and it frankly was never to stop all deaths from COVID because we have a case of a disease here

with an infect, what fatality rate greater than zero. And every single disease, fatality rate greater than zero, necessarily there are people that are going to die. We're going to minimize that. We do our best to minimize that, and that each should be sort of doable because we know who to protect. The overwhelming majority of people that die are over 70, and in some cases over 80, depending upon the analyses, two-thirds, the three-fourths of people are over 70, whereas younger, healthier people have extremely low risk. In fact, the infection fatality rate for people who are under 70 is 0.04, less than or equal to seasonal flu.

Okay, so this is really a message that has never been stressed to people. And frankly, one of the egregious failures here of the policy people is not just to allow fear to infiltrate their own thinking and do lockdowns, are severely harmful, and I can articulate that. But secondly, they have failed to reassure the public about the facts and about the relative risk here. It's a very serious, dangerous disease for a group of people, and we know who those people are. They are high-risk elderly people with comorbidities. Everybody else, it's not a high-risk disease.

So why is it when I see, you know, the governor of Texas who has done a really good job? But when he comes out and says, you know what, I'm thinking we may have to do a significant lockdown of the state if these numbers continue. Well, wait a minute. Why are you locking down the entire state? Why aren't we just protecting those people in that category? Why have we gone off the rails on this? well again like you know i sort of try to empathize with the fear including of the public officials but i don't empathize with the ignorance and the lack of ability to use critical thinking on the

data by the people talking to them and and the again to emphasize we want to protect the high with people we also need to protect uh the hospitals to some extent because we absolutely were killing people by locking out regular medical care and we have data on that, you know, $650,000 people with cancer, you know, half of them missed their chemotherapy, and I could go on and on. This is factually true. In fact, in Texas alone, by the way, of the excess deaths over-expected baseline from last year, almost two-thirds were non-COVID people. That means that we killed people with the lockdown, particularly the lockdown of medical care, not to mention the lockdown causing increased, suicide,

increased, opioid deaths. And that's all statistically proven. Okay, so this is not arguable. So the reality that I want to really make sure, though, the Texas situation is in certain settings, in certain hospitals, they're getting crowded. And certain hospitals in Florida, they're getting crowded. I just looked at the data, and we see that overall, okay, the hospitals in Texas are, say, 80 to 90% occupied.

But when you look at what percent are COVID patients or what percent are COVID patients in Arizona, they're 15 to 20 percent. They're filling these hospitals, of course, but that's the wave of non-COVID that's really filling the hospitals. Yes, there are more COVID patients hospitalizations. And when there are hospitals that are overwhelmed, although I just looked again, for instance, at Florida, and they still have a. about 20% bed occupancy and about 20% ICU occupancy, but there are some hospitals, isolated

hospitals with very crowded, getting nervous levels of ICU occupancy. Okay, well, here's a policy issue. We need to do what we did for New York and supply extra hospital capacity. You're not going to stop the infection itself. You just need to be able to take care of the people who need care. Let me switch to schools. You know, before I do that, well, you decide the order. Schools have got to be opened. They have got to be open. We are harming our children.

The pediatric association has come out and said this as well. There is real harm being done to our society by keeping everything closed. there's really bad things happening to our economy as well, which will have ramifications. But the schools, should the schools be open or not? This is an issue. There is zero science to back up people claiming the schools should be closed or even opened with any constraints whatsoever. And I can go through the data, but the fact is the bottom line for, instance, JAMA Pediatric, a very real respected pediatric journal, published a study,

including 46 hospitals in North America, and they said the following, quote, our data indicate that children are at far greater risk of critical illness from influenza than from COVID-19, unquote. Children are at extraordinarily low risk, near zero of dying, despite a sensationalized headline of yes, every child that dies, it's a tragic loss. I'm a parent. I understand that. But the point is that those exceptions don't disprove the overwhelming data.

When we have in the numbers of roughly 30-some children who have died in the United States this year from COVID-19, do people forget that the last estimate from influenza deaths from children was about 600 in the season, even with the vaccines, even with anything we know about decades of influenza. And so the reality, we have to have some perspective here. If we're going to close schools for the risk to children, then we must close schools every year from November through April because that's influenza season, which by the way kills 50,000 to 90,000 Americans per year. Now, the reality, though, is that there's more to it than that. It's the teachers who are saying don't open the schools because there is no science to say there's a risk to children. The teaching

profession in the United States as a young profession of K-12 teachers, half are under 41 years old. 82% are under 55. These people do not have a high risk. And the reality is from data all over the world, on top of all that, that children only rarely, if ever, transmit the disease. And this is data from Switzerland, Canada, the Netherlands, France, Iceland, the UK, Australia, Ireland, all over the world. We don't reinvent the wheel and ignore all the facts. here. For people that say that's all about the science, let's look at the science. The science says there is no significant risk to anyone in a school. In fact, it's one of the safest places there are. And so the reality is that people who are saying close the schools, they don't care

about the children, period. Let's get it on the table here. The teachers that are against opening are literally saying they do not care about the children because they're ignoring not Not only there's no risk to the children, there's no, there's a harm to the children, a massive harm. Distance learning is proven to be a failure from coast to coast. 30%, 50% of kids don't even log on on any given day. Their reading levels have been estimated to drop by 30% by some. And we know that this is worse for lower income families. They don't have what I call the paraphernalia of the affluent.

They're not just going to buy a bunch of iPads and have a bunch of two, come in and monitor them. And besides that, schools are where we learn that children have a need for hearing aid or glasses. The number one agency where child abuse is found is by the teachers in the schools, by the nurses in the schools. There's a significant increase, by the way, as we know, it's documented in child abuse with maybe 35 percent of pediatric ER visits for severe child abuse increased during the lockdown due to the lockdown. This is not a virus effect. This is the lockdown.

And now we see we're not even going to see the child abuse. By the way, many of their parents have lost jobs. When you lose jobs, you have stress, you have increased opioid related to. You have increased child abuse. This is a heinous, almost criminal neglect. Teachers are not at risk. Children have virtually no risk. There is zero reason to have any spacing or masks and create a generation.

of neurotic kids. Aren't schools an essential business, by the way? And by the way, the last I looked, you know, the schools were for the children, not for the teachers. If the teachers are high risk and there are some high risk, if they believe that masks and spacing work, why can't they use that in the schools? They must not believe that that works or they would say we'll do that. And if they are still afraid, by the way, that's fine.

High risk teachers, in my opinion, should be allowed to teach from a distance, since they obviously believe that distance education works, by the way, or they wouldn't advocate for it. They can teach from a distance. That does not have anything to do with locking down schools. Teachers, of all people, should be prioritizing the children, and they obviously understand that children learn more than just the book information anyway. When they are in person, they learn how to socially mature, how to work in groups, how they resolve conflicts, and they need facial expressions and cues and all the things that are

obvious. These things don't even have to be said, but it's beyond belief. It's completely antithetical to science to insist that schools should not open, and it's antithetical to the recommendations of the experts. In fact, the hospital for sick kids in Toronto, one of the world's great pediatric hospitals, came out with an official statement, and their statements included, schools should be open in person, full-time, no masks, no distancing. Because that's what the science says. This is not even controversial at this point. We have become a hysterical country.

I'm sorry to say it. We are an outlier internationally. All the countries of Western Europe, their schools are opening, and there's no problem that they've seen for places that didn't even lock down the schools during the height of the pandemic. So I want to have to take a one-minute break and then come back, And I want to ask you a very important question, I think. And that is, then why? Then why is this happening?

Why do we have authorities coming out and saying this? If it is so clear on science. One minute, we'll get that answer from Dr. Scott Atlas. You can follow him at S.W. Atlas Hoover. When you were little, you had been braced, you're in trying to negotiate, dechanges, de bonoom, these bracelets, even de collation.

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