The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Gov. Greg Abbott & Max Lucado | 9/12/23

Episode Date: September 12, 2023

Texas Governor Greg Abbott joins to discuss Biden’s worsening border crisis and New York City’s mayor breaking down after receiving a fraction of the illegal immigrants Texas deals with daily. Tex...as Scorecard managing editor Brandon Waltens joins to discuss the impeachment trial of Texas AG Ken Paxton and the apparent lack of evidence against him. Max Lucado, author of “God Never Gives Up on You,” discusses the importance of Jacob’s story and what it teaches us about God’s grace. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:24 Glenn Beck program. Governor Craig Abbott is with us now from the great state of Texas. I have to tell you, Governor, busing people from New York City, uh,
Starting point is 00:00:37 I loved it from the get-go, but I didn't think it would do much other than like a stunt, kind of like it ended up with Governor DeSantis in Florida with Martha's Vineyard. It felt good for a day, but didn't change anything. This is the biggest game-changing border policy I have ever seen in almost 50 years of broadcast. Thank you. Well, of course. And it's not just what's going on with Mayor Adams in New York. Look at Lori Lightfoot in Chicago. Yep. Look at what's going on with Karen Bass out in Los Angeles. Listen, they're all reacting the same thing or the same way. They are all sanctuary cities.
Starting point is 00:01:22 They've all told the world, you know, we want your tired, you're poured, your illegal immigrants, and we want them here. We're going to provide food and lodging for them. And then when they actually have to live up to these liberal promises. they've made, they collapse like a cheap tent. Let me tell you something. There's no way that the mayor of New York would be able to last a week in the state of Texas dealing with what we have to deal with. It's shameful the way they act.
Starting point is 00:01:52 It's crazy the kinds of things they say. But it is time for America to have to share this burden that Texas has had to deal with. How many do we have here in Texas now? I mean, I know he can't handle the 10,000. from Texas. There are towns in Texas that are getting at least 10,000, you know, a day or a week. How many are actually here in Texas? Well, first, I'll tell you that the catalyst for this busing operation actually wasn't to try to put burdens on New York. It was actually to try to help out those small communities on the border. The Delaware goes, the Eagle Passes. The communities that
Starting point is 00:02:31 the border patrol were dropping these illegal immigrants off. And we said, there's no way. they were going to be able to deal with this. And so we began to put them on buses, initially going to Washington, D.C., and eventually New York, et cetera. But my point is that these illegal immigrants do not stay in Texas very long at all, a day, maybe two days.
Starting point is 00:02:57 And then they are put on buses and bused out to other areas across the country. That's what Texas is doing. In addition to what Texas is doing, in far greater numbers, the Biden administration is doing the exact same thing. So my point, Glenn, is that they're actually not staying in Texas very long at all. So the Biden administration, how many are being shipped out from this just one border state to go elsewhere? I can give you percentages.
Starting point is 00:03:31 I don't have the precise number. The percentages would be, you know, in the, you know, in the, 90% range, 95% range. Oh, my gosh. There's not very many that are staying in Texas. And that is what is leading to the extraordinary volume that New York is dealing with, that Massachusetts is dealing with, that Illinois and Chicago are dealing with, that California is dealing with it, et cetera. So the Biden administration last week said that they were considering making sure that if you cross into Texas,
Starting point is 00:04:06 you have to stay in Texas. If they did that is, I mean, it feels like they're specifically, the federal government is specifically targeting Texas. Is that payback for what you and Paxton have put them through in the Supreme Court? Is that to change us blue? Is it to break our backs financially? Why this seeming vendetta against Texas? Part of it, Glenn, does seem to be payback.
Starting point is 00:04:32 And it's not just because of the busing operations is because we, What Texas has done, we have taken over operational control of the border and actually repelled or pushed back into Mexico, people who were trying to cross illegally. We have been on federal land where we built these Constitina razor wire barriers. It was the National Guard that did it. They built the barriers and the National Guard guards it. And they force illegal immigrants to go back to Mexico. This is the only time in American history when anything like that has happened. And then, of course, you probably know about the buoys.
Starting point is 00:05:13 The water and the marine barrier. And the Biden administration considers all of that to be evil when all Texas is really doing is protecting our own border. So my point in telling you that is, yes, the Biden administration has a vendetta against the state of Texas. But let me put it this way. The president is right in thinking that these migrants have to stay somewhere as opposed to going all across the country. He just got the location wrong. They shouldn't be staying in Texas. They should remain in Mexico.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Remember it was when President Trump put the remain and Mexico policy into effect. That is what led to the immediate drop in the number of people coming across the border. And under President Trump, we had the... lowest illegal immigration in 40 years. And now under Biden's open border policies, we have the highest illegal immigration ever. And but let me add one last thing, Glenn, and that is this concept of trying to, you know, have illegal immigrants remain in Texas or remain in California, whatever the case may be. That was tried before decades ago. And it was rejected by the courts at the time. This is a losing legal proposition for Biden, and we'll just hand him another loss if he tries this
Starting point is 00:06:39 crazy game. So the booies, what is the status on that? And if they start doing some of these things, what is Texas going to do to remain a sovereign state? Several things. First, with regard to the buoys, as you and your audience may have heard, it went to, well, first, I need to tell you this, the buoys were a concept that were first developed by the Border Patrol itself. We got the idea from them, and we checked it out. We found it to be effective, and so we deployed it. And as the Border Patrol itself put out, there's nobody getting across it. The great thing about the buoys is it allows us to build a border wall or border barrier
Starting point is 00:07:27 at one-tenth the cost of the border wall that Texas is actually putting up. And so it is a very effective tool. Secondly, with regard to the Biden's attempt to force us to remove the buoy barriers, we lost in the trial court, which we knew we were going to do. But we, in less than 24 hours, got a stay of that lower court ruling by the federal court of appeals. and as we are chitch chatting right now, the buoys are exactly where they have been ever since we put them back up. And we hope and believe that we will prevail in the Federal Court of Appeals. There are multiple legal reasons why what the Biden administration is contending is absolutely wrong.
Starting point is 00:08:14 So we will continue to do that. But let me add this because you said, what are we going to do? We are, as we are speaking right now, there is more border wall going. up, which is the same border wall that Trump was putting up. But better than that, the D tool that proved to be the most effective is having the National Guard on the border, building these constantina razor wire border walls that prevents illegal immigrants from getting across, and we repeal them when we return them back to Mexico. That has proven extraordinarily effective. And the only time in American history that I'm aware of, where a state has actually
Starting point is 00:08:59 repelled people who are trying to enter the country illegally and sent them back to the country they came from. Why do you, I mean, you must have spent a lot of time trying to figure out what that, why would the administration do this? It clearly is not good for America. It's not good for the states, not good for the cities. We don't know who's coming in. Where people are coming from all over the world, including countries that have no love for America. Have you come up with a reason on why you think they're doing this? Why Biden is doing this? So one thing you mentioned about some of the people coming across the border who have no love for America. So we apprehend Chinese and Russians and people from hostile nations all the time. And in fact,
Starting point is 00:09:48 Glenn, under Joe Biden, there is a record number of people coming across the border who were on the terrorist watch list. Correct. And those that we apprehended, they pay more to try to evade being caught. Why is Biden doing this? First, when he campaigned for president, he said that he was going to have open border policies. And I think Americans really just didn't listen to him, maybe he didn't know what he was talking
Starting point is 00:10:17 about and now they're seeing the reality. This is the Ocasia-Cortez game plan. And so here's what you and I don't know, and that is, who is running the White House? Is it Ocasio-Cortez leftists? Is it somebody else? It seems like Biden may not really know what he's doing. But if he does, it's the most unpatriotic act. Any president has ever taken in the history. of the United States of America. So we've got several tasks ahead of us. One is Texas, Texas is using more than $10 billion of our own state funds to secure the border, and we will continue to do so as we work our way through this presidential election.
Starting point is 00:11:07 And we have to put a president in place who's going to have as job one to uphold their oath, fulfill the constitutional mandate that they secure the border. and maintain national security so that we don't lose our country. And so I think Biden's day, those waning days, Texas will continue to step possibly use that are unprecedented in nature to make sure we're going to be holding back and staunching the flow of illegal immigrants into the country. I'm very concerned about this next election. Are we safe? Is the vote safe here?
Starting point is 00:11:49 Have we done anything to strengthen the security of the vote? Absolutely. Yeah, in Texas, for two separate sessions or two successive sessions, legislative sessions, the strongest election integrity laws in the United States of America. As a reminder, before I was governor, I was the attorney general, and I filed legal action after legal action, cracking down on voter fraud and putting people behind bars for it, and we continue to send that message. Separate from that, however, with regard to the election process itself, we have,
Starting point is 00:12:25 have put reforms in a place to make sure we have security. And let's go back to what happened just this past election. This past election, for your audience, those who don't know, we have 254 counties in the state of Texas. And all, let's say, 253, the 254 were able to get their votes counted on election night the way they were supposed to. The only one that was unable to do so, even in days, was Harris County. Harris counties were Houston, Texas. Texas is. And so this past session, we passed about 10 laws that cracked down on the way that the city of Houston and Harris County were not following the law as we had prescribed with regard to fair and accurate elections, making sure that the election process in Harris
Starting point is 00:13:16 County was going to be even more secure. Governor, I know you have to run. Thank you so much. really appreciate it. Thank you for busing those people in. Again, you have completely changed the narrative. It is the only thing I have seen in my entire broadcasting career that has changed this narrative. It's a different game today because of you. Thank you, Glenn. Take care.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Bye-bye. Governor Greg Abbott, a great state of Texas. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening. I'm going to talk to you a little bit about what's happening in Texas, but I'm talking to you about this because if it's happening in Texas, God only knows what's happening in your state. I wanted to bring somebody on who really watches this for a living. His name is Brandon Walton's. He does the Texas scorecard.
Starting point is 00:14:07 And every day he does, you know, headlines of what's going on. And he watches this every weekday at five YouTube X and podcast platforms. There is an impeachment going on of probably. the strongest attorney general in the nation, the one here in Texas, Ken Paxton. He's been on this show several
Starting point is 00:14:31 times. I know Ken, but I don't have a horse in this race. If he's guilty of a crime, he should be punished. But it is really beginning to look, and I stayed off this story, until the testimony was out, and I
Starting point is 00:14:47 have to tell you, something is very wrong in Texas. And Texans better pay attention to this. Brandon, welcome. Thank you so much for having me, Glenn. So overall, can you quickly just say, you know, what this is supposedly about? And then let's talk about the actual witnesses. Yeah, so how did we get here?
Starting point is 00:15:12 Essentially, three years ago, you had this group of employees at the office of the Attorney General who accused Ken Pax. sin of wrongdoing of abusing his office to help a friend, essentially. And they went to the FBI. They reported him. And that sort of set into motion what we now have three years later, this impeachment process, which many of those impeachment charges are based off of. Back in May, over Memorial Day weekend, while a lot of people were maybe grilling out or at the lake or whatever, the house met on a Saturday. They voted to impeach. Ken Paxton based on testimony that wasn't sworn testimony. Ken Paxton wasn't made aware of their investigation until it came out, 48 hours before the vote. And the House members themselves
Starting point is 00:16:04 weren't able to look at the actual testimony. They had to rely on the word of the House's investigators. And so... And Ken, if I'm not mistaken, was not allowed to respond in his own defense. Right. And so you had a lot of these sort of things that that made people look at this and say, hmm, this is odd. Well, just like D.C., you know, the House does the impeachment, goes over to the Senate to determine whether or not they convict, which would actually remove him from office. And so for the last few months, there's been a lot of talk from those who have been pushing this impeachment saying, oh, just wait until you see this testimony, wait until you see the evidence, you know, you're going to be blown away by what we have.
Starting point is 00:16:46 And yet, you know, this trial started last week. And so far, and we're more, than halfway through this, the testimony has really, really been weak. It's a little beyond weak. There's no evidence of a crime. I mean, this is the, let me just read something. This was the third whistleblower. The concern began when Paxton advocated for the AG's office to open investigation into Nate Paul, that is his friend and donor, alleged mistrust. treatment by the FBI and Texas DPS during a raid.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Paul's contention was that the feds did him dirty by illegally altering the search warrants after the fact to expand their scope just to get him. His technical experts theorized that there was altered metadata in the digital versions that proved the documents had been changed. Maxwell quickly developed the opinion that's the whistleblower, the opinion that Nate Paul was a criminal that we should not be associated with. accordingly he had dragged his feet and ultimately refused to open a formal investigation into the alleged FBI and DPS misconduct. Paxton convinced of the idea that the FBI was untrustworthy.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Well, that's far-fetched. He eventually hired outside counsel to help explore and adjudicate Paul's claims, an act that would eventually become the primary catalyst for the whistleblower complaints. Now, did anything come of that? outside in investigation? No, and the thing is, is that when you see these people testify, I mean, numerous of these former employees of the Office of the Attorney General has talked about how insane. Literally, that's what one of these people said.
Starting point is 00:18:39 It would be insane to investigate the FBI, that essentially they trust them wholeheartedly, that there would be nothing. I mean, literally one of them was asked, is there anything that maybe happened over the last two, three, four years that might change your trust in the FBI? They said no. Of course, that's at odds with Texas voters. I mean, Republican primary voters, we have a poll from after the Mar-a-Lago raid shows that 73 percent of Texas Republican primary voters have a negative opinion of the FBI. What a shock. So I'm reading this, and my first thought was, and I dismissed it out of hand, I don't even know why it came to me, but I'm reading all of the testimony and I'm thinking
Starting point is 00:19:26 to myself, this is George Bush. This is the George Bush wing of the party that is that trust the FBI, is denying that there's a problem in America. The problem is the Republican voters. All of that crap. And then I continue to read on and it looks like the whistleblowers do have a relationship with George P. Bush. Is there anything to this, that this is a Bush ambush? You know, there's been a couple moments during the testimony of the past week where the Bush family has been invoked,
Starting point is 00:20:05 and it looks like perhaps they were somehow involved in this. One of those being that when the whistleblowers went to the FBI and reported Paxton, by the way, without even asking him or talking to him beforehand, And they also said they had no evidence when they went. But when they were preparing to go to the FBI on that same day, George P. Bush was reactivating his law license. George P. Bush would eventually challenge Ken Paxton in the Republican primary last year. He lost two to one in the runoff. And then you also have a case where Johnny Sutton, who is a Bush lawyer,
Starting point is 00:20:39 somebody who was a U.S. attorney under Bush, has been very close with the Bush family. He has been representing some of these whistleblowers for the last three years and hasn't sent them a bill. It hasn't been paid. It's essentially been representing them pro bono. And so that's just another piece of this puzzle that people are looking at and saying, hmm, it looks like someone else, some outside forces involved here. Honestly, the people who brought this impeachment, the way they brought it,
Starting point is 00:21:11 should be impeached themselves. I don't, you know, the one thing I do here about, Paxton is he's just a freight train and he's not good at playing the game and you know making friends and influencing people whatever well neither was John Adams and I'm not comparing him to John Adams I'm just saying temperament wise John Adams was not a popular guy but you do not bend the rules to get rid of somebody if he is if he's a criminal if he did something criminal, then I am for his impeachment. But if this is just because he hasn't made the right friends or a Bush wants him out or whatever
Starting point is 00:21:54 it is, the people involved in this because it's been so shady the way they did this, I think they should be impeached. And certainly there's been a lot of anger, especially among Republican voters. You know, it's one thing when we see what's happening with the president where you see Democrats going after using the criminal justice system, using these impeachments to go after them. It's another when you're in Texas and you have Democrats and establishment Republicans going along with it. It's really bad. Really, really bad. Anything to the thought that this happened the week that Paxton said, you know, hey, why is our Speaker of the House giving, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:38 chairmanship to the Democrats. We don't need friends like this. And then it was later that week that the impeachment thing happened. Was there any connection? Well, I think absolutely. There's been a divide look. Speaker, Dade Phelan, who's the establishment guy that runs the House who puts Democrats in power.
Starting point is 00:22:57 He has been at odds with not only Ken Paxton, but the conservative grassroots who have repeatedly elected Paxton. And so certainly there's no coincidence there. there's certainly been a lot of bad blood between the establishment and Ken Paxton. It just shows why they've worked so hard to try to essentially overturn the election and get him out of office. And quickly, what do your sources tell you? How's this going to fare? How's this going to turn out?
Starting point is 00:23:24 Yeah, so they need two-thirds in order to permanently remove them from office. That vote is expected to take place maybe Friday, Saturday, later this week. you know, it's a little tough. You have to kind of do napkin math because these senators are under gag orders. But I would say that especially after people testifying that they essentially had no evidence, which is what we repeatedly saw last week, I'm hearing a lot of the senators are getting very, very frustrated that House members put them in this position where they have to sit through this. And I think that ultimately that's something they're going to be considering whenever they make their decision. But you'll get all the Democrats. So how many Republicans do you need?
Starting point is 00:24:02 I think you need 10, 10 if I recall. 10 weasels. Yeah. All right. I hope not. Thank you so much for reporting on this and bringing us the story. I appreciate it. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Thank you. You bet. Brandon Walton's. He is Texas scorecard. You can find Texas scorecard wherever you get to your podcast end, YouTube and X every day at 5 o'clock. And just one quick thing, because you, in case you miss the show. show yesterday, it sort of rolls off the tongue to say, oh, well, this was brought without any evidence. Those are the words of the people who brought the accusations. Yeah, we have no evidence.
Starting point is 00:24:44 They said, they were asked specifically, did you have any evidence when you brought this case? And the guy said, no. The most credible said, it's just my feeling. Right. Like, we thought he had some illegal activity, so we brought it to their attention. Did you have any evidence? No. Let me give you something else And it ties to this You know the guy who was pushed by his Pushed to go into a school board meeting in Virginia Because he felt he wasn't being listened to
Starting point is 00:25:16 His daughter had been raped The school board lied to him And then they charged him And he was going to jail He was pardoned now by the governor of Virginia I want you to listen to what he says. So we were chatting off camera. Governor Yonkitt had offered a pardon for you before. And you said, no, thank you. I don't want that. Why? Well, to be clear, it was only a month ago.
Starting point is 00:25:43 It wasn't months ago. But because I didn't want to drop my appeal and accept responsibility for the charges that was convicted of in the lower court. That was unacceptable to me. I really wanted to win this straight up on my own merit in court. But unfortunately, you know, as things have played out, you know, our justice system across this land is unfortunately politicized and weaponized to the help. And that should scare every American. So you believe there's no way that you could have won in court? I think I might have been able to win in court with a judge if it would have been the right judge.
Starting point is 00:26:23 but no, I think in a jury, I think it would have been a hung jury at best. As he said, that should frighten all Americans. This is why you must care about all of these cases that your friends are not paying attention to. It will come to your door. The best of the Glenn Beck program. That's my friend, how are you? I'm great. I'm great.
Starting point is 00:26:50 So good to see you. Oh, my goodness. What a treat to see you. Are you doing okay? I'm doing great. Sounds like you've had a wild week. Yeah, and it's only Tuesday. So give a short version here of what happened to you that no one knew.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Well, it was a great time. And my life is great now. But, boy, I mean, it was a tough time. And everything was, you know, there's a reason the word dead is in deadline. It leaves you. Every time I turned around, I had another deadline to meet. and I wasn't doing a great job managing our growing church, and staff was having a tough stretch of it.
Starting point is 00:27:30 And I became even resentful of our own staff. Leave me alone. I've got important things to do. I was not the best version of me. And then I got diagnosed with atrophibulation, which means your heart rate is moving real fast. And the doctor wanted to put me on medicine, told me to slow down.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I couldn't slow down because I was so important to the world. I mean, what would God do if he didn't have me every week? It was pathetic. Before I became a follower of Christ, I was a real heavy drinker. And I thought, well, I'll just go, you know, have a beer and take the edge off. That's the phrase. Well, that was just one day. That became two days.
Starting point is 00:28:13 That became two or three weeks. And that became a couple of months. And I got into this habit, Glenn, of kind of escaping the office. at the end of the day. Sure. And going, sitting in a parking lot in a convenience store with one of those supersized beers and guzzling it down. That is a sign.
Starting point is 00:28:34 If you're in the parking lot, guzzling beers, it is a sign there may be a problem. Something wrong. I like beer. I still think beer is fine. What I was doing that was wrong is I wasn't doing what I had told people to do for decades, and that is when you're under stress. Pray, find friends. Somebody will help you.
Starting point is 00:28:54 There's healthy ways to deal with stress. I was not dealing with it in healthy fashion. And one day, and this is going to sound a little super spiritual, forgive me, but I think God talked to me, and I think God said, are you doing okay? And my thought was, I'm going to make, I'm handling it. Max was in charge of Max. And the confrontation came, well, you're not doing very well, not doing very well. And that's about all it took.
Starting point is 00:29:22 And I came undone. I had a good cry session right there. And we have elders in our church, a group of leaders of men who oversee the church. And so at the very next meeting, I went to them, told them exactly what was happening. They were awesome. They came up with ways to restructure the work demands. I shared it with the church. I told everybody in the church about it.
Starting point is 00:29:47 They were awesome. That created a lot of conversations. about other people, not managing stress well. And it was a good come-to-Jesus moment for this guy who had been preaching about Jesus for a long time. So why share this story now? You have a new book out about Jacob. Thank you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:05 So tie them. I love Jacob. I love Jacob. And there's some wonderful stories about Jacob. Jacob is the imperfect man who is a part of God's perfect plan. So tell if people don't know who Jacob is. super super quick synopsis he's the grandson of abraham he's the one who was the second born he was the second born twin he wanted to be first born and there was a prophecy that he would be over his elder
Starting point is 00:30:32 brother esau but he took matters into his own hands he swindled his brother he lied to his father his mother said you better get out of here esol's going to kill you so he goes into hiding it goes up to mesopotamia that's where he meets his match man by the name of laban who's ever bit as much of a sneak as Jacob was, and Mary's the wrong woman. He thinks he's marrying and Rachel. Ends up marrying her sister, which is an amazing story.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Spend seven years working for Laban for one wife. Spend seven years working for the other. Finally has six years on his own to amass his wherewithal to go back home. And on the way home, he's at a creek called Jabok, Jabok. and across the creek is the area where Esau lives. He's not seen this brother in 20 years, this brother he cheated. And that night, he spends the night, we're not told why, alone on the river Jabok. And that's when God comes to him.
Starting point is 00:31:31 God came to me in a convenience store parking lot. God came to Jacob right there, and they wrestled. They wrestled. They wrestled. They wrestled all night. It's a picture of all of us who wrestle with God, you know. And he actually thought he had brought God. that he was going to pin God. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:47 And God with one touch, this located his hip. And there's a little Hebrew idiomatic expression that suggests not only was his hip out of place, his manhood was affected. So, I mean, everything about Jacob was done. He was brought to his knees. He limped for the rest of his life. But that's when God changed his name. Changed it from Jacob to Israel. A name we still used today.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Many interpretations of what Israel means. I love the one God fights. And so the old Jacob, Jacob fought for himself. The old Max, Max fought for himself. The new Jacob, God is fighting for me. And the last 20 years, I think I've been living out of that realization that God fights for us. So there is, wow, a profound lack of faith right now. and this next generation, only about 18% of them are churchgoers.
Starting point is 00:32:47 It was 51% in World War II. Wow. The last generation, I think, was 35, and in one generation, it's down to 18. Because I think they don't church and stuff, it's just not, I don't know. I think churches think it has to be slicker. more packaged and everything else to appeal to those people with short attention spans. But I think there's times that churches don't give real answers to real life. Everybody's struggling right now.
Starting point is 00:33:25 And especially our youth, they are struggling with self-esteem. Going through, I think, some of the things, you know, not exactly like Jacob, but, you know, Why am I even here if I'm not the firstborn? I mean, I want to be somebody special and I'm not. So I guess I have no worth. Where do you begin with when people are down and they're just like, I don't really have any purpose. I don't have worth.
Starting point is 00:34:01 The statistics are staggering, aren't they? They are. I read one the other day that in 2022, an average of 135 people a day orchestrated their own death. 135 people a day. It's the largest killer now over heart disease. My goodness. Worse to spend since World War II.
Starting point is 00:34:22 So why? You know, what is going on? And it's a complex answer. To me, the answer has something to do with the fact that people have, have bought into the idea that the whole world is just what we see, is just us. It's the secularization of society. Part of the blame for that is the church. There's been church scandals that have caused people to not trust the church.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Part of the blame for that is just the media. Part of the blame to that is that we've chosen to disallow our schools from even talking about matters of faith, regardless of what faith-oriented. a person has. So I think all of us could share in some of the blame there. I think bottom line, kids are not being given an answer to the question, what am I here for? What's my purpose in life? And is there life beyond this life?
Starting point is 00:35:26 And once the church really begins to empower people with that great story of hope that we're here for just an instant to make a decision about the next life, and that we're loved by God who refuses to give up on us, I think that will infuse hope into people's lives. So people say, why am I here? What is my purpose? I felt a prompting, if you will, from God when I was probably eight, and I thought I knew what I was to do, and it was to do radio. And I misunderstood that until I was about 30 and an alcoholic and everything else. And through that away, I went, I don't even know if that really even happened. You know how you think. And so I just stopped doing that.
Starting point is 00:36:17 And that's when I found my purpose. My purpose wasn't to do radio. What my life's purpose was. How do people who haven't heard or don't know how to find what their life's purpose is? How do you find that? I urge people pray pray and the response I get back often is well I don't believe in God and I say that's fine pray anyway yeah what's what you got to lose you don't believe in God then doesn't hurt to try and I believe that there's a God who believes in people who don't believe in him and that our faith that his commitment to us is not contingent upon our our commitment to him. It's called unconditional love. And it's hard for people to grasp. The Bible word for it is grace, is grace. And it's hard for people because there's nothing like it in the world.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Everything else is, I'll do this, you do that. But there is, and anybody who's had a second child or more, I was convinced that I could not love a child more than I loved my firstborn. And the moment my second child came out, I'm like, oh my gosh, I love her so much. It's crazy. And you do anything for them. And so what happens if a person finally comes to believe that there is a God who created this whole world and he's on my side. He's not against me. He's not ticked off at me. He's pulling for me. He's rooting for me. And he's got plans for me beyond this life. That's what it took for me, And it's that simple. It's a matter of faith.
Starting point is 00:38:08 So I urge people to say, just talk to him. Biennue at board of Viarai. Embarked and profite. Embarque and celebrate. Rigolet. Publiere. Savoray. Admire.
Starting point is 00:38:24 And enjoy. And profite. Via Rae. The voice that we love.

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