The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Guests: Richard Grenell & Richard Paul Evans | 9/27/22

Episode Date: September 27, 2022

Glenn shares the story of a woman who has been fighting charges for two years after going to a park during the COVID lockdowns. Meanwhile, many current Democrat candidates accused of heinous crimes ar...e being ignored. Peter Breen, the attorney for pro-lifer Mark Houck, joins to discuss the FBI raid on Mark’s home and the overstep of the Biden administration’s federal agencies. Former U.S. Ambassador to Germany Richard Grenell blasts the FBI and warns Americans of the bureau's worsening overreach. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, everybody. Hi, Glenn. Hi, Stu. How you do? We're doing it again. I don't think we should start. I think people love it. People love when we talk like this.
Starting point is 00:00:12 You don't know how many years. I probably sounded almost like that. Oh, yeah. Hey, you know, my radio name, when I was 13, I was working two stations, one across the street from the other. And so I couldn't have the same name. And so the program director gave me. not John St. John, Michael St. Michael, I think it was. It was something ridiculous. Michael St. Michael's, St. Michael's, and William to the Program, halfway through, I kept blowing my name, you know, you know me.
Starting point is 00:00:44 You don't know anyone else's name. You certainly don't know your own name. Right. And so I'd be like, Michael, and I finally just said, okay, it's Glenn Beck. That was the last time I worked at that station. But it was the last time Michael St. Michael worked at that station. We got a great podcast for you today. You don't want to miss a second of it. We have Richard Grinnell on. It was fascinating. Gosh, who else did we have on today?
Starting point is 00:01:10 Oh, we had the lawyer for the guy who was busted by the FBI. We don't know what for. He gave some inside information that I think is really, really amazing. And we also had Richard Paul Evans for a few minutes. He is the author of the number one bestselling book series, Michael Vey. it's a young adult book and it's it's chapter number eight it is the eighth book in the michael vays series you don't want to miss it grab it for your kids your grandkids all right the podcast is coming up just a second first let me tell you about gold line gold line right now you know people like i don't know
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Starting point is 00:03:24 You're listening to The Best of the Glenbeck program. Do you remember, man, I'm in a good mood today. I just, I want to welcome you, and there's no sarcasm to that at. all. I find the news just wonderful and beautiful today. And definitely not fascistic. I want you to know, only that lady from Italy, you know, pepperoni eyes over there. She is a fascist. She's clearly a fascist. How do I know? Because all of the media is saying she's the biggest fascist and going to be the first fascist in charge since Mussolini. So she's got to be a fascist because I believe the media. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:04:10 So there's another and very non-fascistic story coming out of Idaho today. Their great governor. Oh, he is good. He was the guy who was making all of the really crazy draconian laws for a Republican up in Idaho during, you know, COVID. And they shut down all the parks. Remember? Because you can't play. You cannot play in a public park.
Starting point is 00:04:39 my gosh, why would you play in a public park? You bringing your kids to play in a public park? What do you want to kill grandma and everybody else on earth? So at one point, I think this was about a year into it. It was July 2021, I think. So that was what, year and a half into it? Some people, sorry, I'm on the wrong story. This happened in 2020, okay, early weeks.
Starting point is 00:05:09 of the lockdown. Video goes viral of a mom arrested by local police after her and her children were playing in the Kleiner Park playground, which was closed, okay? So they put her in cuffs and they marched her away and they arrested her and charged her with trespassing in a closed park. I hope that woman rots in jail. Now, as bad as it seems that this happened in the first place, the really good governor and his really good sidekick,
Starting point is 00:05:54 Wynel is tied to a train track, Dudley Doerite will be there. He's decided as the attorney general that he's going to continue the prosecution of this woman. Uh-huh. so she's now spent about $25,000 defending herself and they're still going after her. She's finally getting her day in court. But what's two years of having that hung over your head? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:06:23 She says it's kind of hard to fight a state that has unlimited resources can continue to prosecute this indefinitely. Our family has been through so much. We've been doxed. we've been harassed. We've had child protective services called on us simply for me taking my kids to the playground. And knowing what we now know about COVID and all the falsehoods that had been perpetrated on the American people, the fact they're still prosecuting me adds insult to injury. Boy, I would have to say, uh, you're right, Sarah Brady.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Sarah, uh, keep fighting. Keep fighting. But it's definitely not fashion. that you're fighting. Now, there's a couple of other stories here. You know, when I look at politics, I look at yesterday we were like, who else can they run? Is there someone in a vegetative state that the Democrats could run?
Starting point is 00:07:26 You know? Because they don't seem to like people who can think or talk anymore. Joe Biden Fetterman the Clown from up in Pennsylvania Did I mention Joe Biden Kamala Harris Did I mention Joe Biden What's her name from California
Starting point is 00:07:50 What's her name? Feinstein She's not even doing the word They're admitting that she's not even doing the word Yeah Why is she still there? What is wrong with us? Well, today
Starting point is 00:08:04 I'd like to focus on how about maybe people who have kind of criminal activity in their background. For instance, Hunter Biden now, it looks like there was another national security nightmare. He had a Fang Fang encounter. With Fang Fang? I don't think with Fang Fang. There's a different spy from China. Yeah, different. He was
Starting point is 00:08:34 He was dabbling with a Chinese spy But her name was Jaya Cabao Jaya Cabao Jaya Cabo Definitely not Fang Fang Fang but Jaya Cabao And apparently They were You know
Starting point is 00:08:54 Doing the Fang Fang thing And it's wow So another another spy Now there's another something here that you should be aware of the Democratic Senate candidate that is running against Senator Chuck Grassley
Starting point is 00:09:12 was accused last week of sexually assaulting his former campaign manager nobody's giving this any story because it's no time on the news because they're so busy talking about Fang Fang and Hunter Biden and all the rest
Starting point is 00:09:29 so MSNBC CNN they just haven't had time to get to that story. Mike Franken raised more than $4.6 million won the support of prominent Democrats, such as Mark Kelly, the guy who's hopefully going to lose in
Starting point is 00:09:45 Arizona and Tim Kane in Virginia. And it was kind of derailed a little bit when he was accused of forcibly kissing his former campaign manager according to a police report she filed in April. Oh, how old were you
Starting point is 00:10:02 in April though? Yeah, I mean, who didn't make Who didn't make mistakes back in April? Was April before or after the Revolutionary War? I don't even know. I don't know. I don't know. Okay. So then you have Democratic Katie Porter.
Starting point is 00:10:16 She's running for California for the state house again or for the Congress position. Katie Porter apparently is in a Tiff from the Irvine Police Department. that, you know, they arrested the guy who lives with her because he was in a fight that broke out at her town hall event. And she's like, hey, the Irvine police, they're just arresting anyone right now, including the guy I'm sleeping with. I shouldn't say that. I shouldn't say that about her. That might be smirch her good name. Just the person that lives with her.
Starting point is 00:11:01 She may not be sleeping with him. The New Mexico congressional hopeful, his name is Gabe Vasquez. He gave a fake name during an anti-police rant to a journalist at a Black Lives Matter protest in the summer of 2020. A Washington Free Beacon investigation kind of looked up and they were like, you know, this guy kind of seems familiar. And they found out, oh, oh, because that's a fake name. name. This is the guy who we interviewed, who expressed a desire to defund the police. Quote, we need serious police reform in this country, he said, over a chance of no justice, no peace. It's not just about defunding police. It's about defunding the entire system
Starting point is 00:11:53 that privileges white people over everyone else. Now, the interviewee shielded much of his face in a hat and a neck gator and sunglasses and he just said when he was asked, what's your name? James Hall? And I'm from here. So apparently when the Washington Free Beacon saw that, they were like, wow, he looks like Gabe Vasquez. And apparently he is.
Starting point is 00:12:28 But Gabe, on the other hand, Much unlike his alter ego, the shadow, is for the police. So he just would like you to know that. So we have to go for us. It was a really convincing story there. Yeah, I thought so too. Mansion has attacked extreme Sanders over opposition to his energy permitting plan. And I wish I had sympathy for Mansion, but I don't.
Starting point is 00:13:01 I do for the people in West Virginia, but for Mansion, no, I really don't. Apparently, Senator Sanders is standing in the way of, you know, helping his deal go through that he had with the Biden administration. And they're not helping him. That's sad. Sanders is, that's sad. Sanders is just a regular guy. Hmm. You know?
Starting point is 00:13:31 So that's very, very. sad. So if you like any of those people who have some crime in their lives or lies in their lives, Democratic ticket. Democratic ticket is for you. It's got some good people up there. Yeah. Good people. We learned, of course, from John Fetterman that the Eagles are better than the Eagles yesterday, which was... Well, no, don't say it that way because, I mean, you miss all of the excitement. Here he is. And the Eagles are so much better. Then Eagles. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:07 No. No. Oh. Good. This is good. This is good. This is weekend at Bernie Sanders is what this is. That's good. And they are putting him. He can barely communicate in any way. He's a socialist in a hoodie.
Starting point is 00:14:27 And they are going to prop him up and try to make him. We're going to make that whole thing work. I don't know. This is, it's a very, very dark. time. You know what I really what I really like is that the rest of the world,
Starting point is 00:14:46 the Western world, is starting to lead the way out of fascism and we're still going in. Well, I mean, Spain is too. The Spanish government officially reportedly claims children can have sexual relations with whom
Starting point is 00:15:01 ever they want. It's about time. Someone finally said it. Yeah, I mean, geez, the the age of sexual consent in Spain is 16. And so, I mean, you have 16. And this allows them to live their life free of violence and allows them in the future to freely live out their sexuality. At really any age. At any age.
Starting point is 00:15:28 It's a real priority. It's a real priority to make sure kids can get, can express themselves sexually. That's a, it's a priority. It's a priority for Nambla. I know that. And it's also a real priority to be able to say, hey, sexual relations with whomever they want. So, you know, your kid's 12 and having sex with a 30-year-old. What's your problem, old-timer?
Starting point is 00:15:52 What is your problem? What could possibly go wrong? Can anyone think of anything that could go wrong in that situation? I can't. Sounds great. So here's a really good thing. There is a movement afoot. We're not leading it, but there is a movement all around the world.
Starting point is 00:16:11 And you're seeing it in election after election after election. You're seeing it in Europe certainly a lot over the past couple of months. Yeah, that's what I mean. And it does make me a little nervous because, you know, far right over there means something different than it does over here. But so far, other than smears, I don't see anything happening. Yeah, with the Italian incoming. Prime Minister there. They're talking about her decisions she was making as a teenager, right? As a teenager, she joined some controversial group that had some roots in fascism. And she at
Starting point is 00:16:51 times expressed some leniency toward Mussolini that maybe she shouldn't have had when she was young. Can I tell you something? Almost everybody in Italy seems to have that. You mentioned that before. Yeah. I mean, I can't tell you. People are like, you know, Mussolini. He was bad in the end because he joined up with Hitler and but he wasn't and it's true he wasn't you know rounding up Jews or anything else but he was you know making the trains run on time and they were you know a lot of people look back in him fondly which is really really weird and Francisco Franco some Spanish people do yeah yeah it's interesting that that stuff still kind of hangs around that that's the only that that's their
Starting point is 00:17:39 only choice. It's either communism, socialism, or fascism. They don't have that third way, which is our way. They call it the third way, but yes, you're right. They don't. I agree with you. It's a very strange thing. And it goes back to this idea that there's no government without centralized control. There's no government without a powerful central government. Because we're the one place that violated that standard. and I think to good effect. Because we said rights come from God. They don't come from the government.
Starting point is 00:18:16 We're the only ones that recognize that. And if you can just get your arms around that, that means no government can hurt the individual. Everybody else is like, yeah, we'll save the individual through the collective. Okay. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. Glenbeck Program. So we've been telling you this week,
Starting point is 00:18:50 about the story of the pro-life activist that the FBI raided his house at 720. But we don't know all of the story because the FBI, of course, we can't discuss ongoing investigations. Uh-huh. And so we have not talked to the family, but we have very good connections and people who we know who have talked to the family. So we wanted to get their attorney on today, Peter Breen. He is with the Thomas Moore Society, Vice President Senior Counsel, and find out the entire story.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Peter, how are you, sir? I am doing great, Glenn. I'm looking at Independence Hall in Philadelphia. So glad to be on site here for the arraignment today. Okay, so tell me, tell us a story and give us the timeline. Well, in October of last year, there were, you know, they were outside of the Planned Parenthood here. in Philadelphia. There was an abortion escort, a gentleman named Bruce Love, 72 years old, known for having
Starting point is 00:19:54 a pretty foul mouth. And he's out there on the sidewalk. Our protagonist, Mark Halk, he is the pro-life sidewalk counselor. He's there with his 12-year-old son as well, who's praying on the sidewalk. And they're having a normal day, except that Mr. Love approaches and starts harassing the 12-year-old. old son. Words exchanged, altercation ensues, and, you know, Mr. Love claims to be a victim now, despite the fact he was an aggressor on this. Okay, so he went and he started something with the son. The father steps in. It's like, hey, back off, back off my son. And he, right, like any, any good father
Starting point is 00:20:39 would do. Okay. So he pushed him or how did? There was, well, and certainly, we're going to contend that it was all defensive and that Mr. Love's the aggressor. The other side, you know, Mr. Love says he was the victim. You know, he ended up on the ground, was there for about three seconds, popped right back up, claims he had a scrape on his arm from falling. So, but it's the sort of thing you'd say, well, if a crime was actually committed, then take it to the DA and charge it. Well, Mr. Love took it to the DA.
Starting point is 00:21:12 DA didn't prosecute. And this is the Philly DA. This isn't some sort of pro-life activist. And then Mr. Love continues. He makes a private criminal complaint, which apparently you can do in Pennsylvania. And the state courts eventually throw it out. Mr. Love can't be troubled to show up for the hearings for his own criminal complaint. And now, of course, Mark Howe, he shows up faithfully.
Starting point is 00:21:36 And so they throw the case out. We were actually considering filing an abuse of process lawsuit against Mr. Love. and then all of a sudden we get this target letter from the United States Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania. That was in May of this year, saying that they're investigating our client for apparent violations of the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act, the Federal Face Act is what we call it. But he wasn't. Right. No, I mean, it's, it, the funny thing about this is in this very district, we won a case three years ago, on this same set of facts, where you had the pro-life sidewalk counselor and the abortion escort, they have a little back and forth, they joust a bit, and, you know, physical altercation.
Starting point is 00:22:22 But no one's hurt. It just, this sort of thing happens very occasionally when you're in very close proximity on the sidewalk. So we won this case three years ago. Our attorney sends a letter. So the target letter to Mark Howe says, we'd like to talk to your attorney. Well, we respond in writing. It was a senior experienced former federal prosecutor representing Mark and says, hey, by the way, you don't have a case based on the decision we just won three years ago in this district. And if you are going to indict regardless, we will present our client.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Please just send us a summons and we'll bring him. So we did that in June. Made phone calls to the U.S. attorney. Nothing returned. the next we hear is this last Friday afternoon or Friday morning, your client's in custody. So that is where things were with the U.S. attorney. They sent 20. It was interesting.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Ryan Marie, who's Mark's wife, she thought she saw 25. The FBI came back and said it wasn't 25. It was no more than 15 or 20, heavily armed federal agents. And she had called them a SWAT team because she's a lay person. I don't know the difference between a SWAT team. a bunch of heavily armed, armored, and shield-bearing of federal agents. I didn't realize there was a difference, but I guess there is. And so, yeah, they had guns drawn and pointed at Mark in front of his wife and their seven children.
Starting point is 00:23:50 So that whole show of force was done against a man who was not a drug lord, not a mafia boss, but instead a law-abiding pillar of the community whose attorney said, we'll bring him in if you decide to charge, even though you have no case. So that's where we are. So how did this get to the feds? How do you suppose? I mean, it's a pretty small, you know, case here that was thrown out. Well, I am assuming that Planned Parenthood had something to do with it because I'd imagine Mr.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Love has not got enough poll with Maine Justice to get this done. And that was something we found out on Friday, the press release. from the DOJ. Normally they would do this through the U.S. Attorney's Office locally. Well, they noted, they did a press release out of Maine Justice in D.C. And they noted the trial team
Starting point is 00:24:48 is going to be led by a D.C. Department of Justice lawyer. So you start putting all this together and you go, how did they send 20 heavily armed federal agents out to this peaceful man's house? How do you get lawyers from Maine Justice coming into Philadelphia?
Starting point is 00:25:04 And all you can do is say, well, this is being directed at a very high level within the Department of Justice. Does the, did the Attorney General himself approve the raid? I don't know, but certainly one of his top lieutenants would have. So Planned Parenthood says they have a tape. Have you seen it? You know, I have seen, we've got some evidence we're putting together. Some of it we can show, some of it we can't because, you know, the way we discovered it. everything I've seen substantiates our claim, which is no federal violation happened here,
Starting point is 00:25:39 and the Mr. Bruce Love was the aggressor. Can you tell me, because I've had questions, I understand this, but for people who don't, who are not necessarily the people who go out and stand in front of abortion clinics may not understand, why would you bring your son to a place where you think there might be an altercation? Well, 99.9% of the time, there are no altercations. And it's the sort of thing where folks, people of faith, pro-life folks, bring their families at times to pray in front of the abortion clinic. This is a great injustice of our time. These folks rightly believe.
Starting point is 00:26:21 We've had this dispute for 50 years in this country. And, you know, sometimes you bring your kids. And so you certainly don't expect a 72-year-old foul-mouth man to harass and intimidate your 12-year-old child. I mean, a 72-year-old man should know better than to do that. So that really, normally, these things don't normally happen. They very occasionally happen. But remember, there are many hundreds of abortion clinics across the country and folks outside them on a regular basis every day. So we look at the different things that have happened,
Starting point is 00:27:00 justice being called, you know, on parents that disagree. Now this, we also have FBI agents who are now testifying that they came out and they tried to speak out and whistleblow and that they're not being fired. They're being they're being destroyed by the. by the Justice Department. Is there any step beside just getting this dismissed that should be done to get the Justice Department in line? Is there any step you guys can engage in? We are going to use every tool within our process here to get justice for Mark and his
Starting point is 00:27:41 family. I have already seen a number of congressmen and senators who are making noise about bringing Merrick Garland in to answer for this. and really he needs to. And I can't imagine that those 20, whom I presume to be just perfectly dedicated, regular federal agents, I can't imagine they were excited about being called out to a peaceful man's home. Guns drawn on him to drag him out of it, you know, to have him pound on his door, bring him
Starting point is 00:28:12 out of his house while he's trying to enjoy his morning coffee. You know, this is, I would hope there are going to be some whistleblowers, whether on this raid or, you know, in some of these other circumstances that the Congress maybe can use their power to be able to get more of the story. And is there any what would, let's say the face, which is blocking the entrance of a abortion clinic and trying to block people from entering the abortion clinic. That's what's against the law. If that were even true that that's what he was doing, what would the penalty be for that?
Starting point is 00:28:55 And it can be if you have violence involved, you can then be in federal penitentiary for many years. So up to about 10 years or so, as I recall. If there's no violence, then you get to six months to up to 18 or thereabouts, depending on whether it's first defense or multiple.
Starting point is 00:29:12 The issue here, though, is that we have case law that supports us. At least for the alter, that the books have been discussing, there were no abortion patients around. It wasn't an issue of trying to keep somebody in or out of an abortion clinic. It's a matter of defending your 12-year-old child from a gentleman with a very foul mouth who was harassing him. So that's really we are confident in our defenses. And I would say, Glenn, after Dobbs, there's still a question about whether face is even within the power of the Congress to enact based on the fact that abortion is not a federal.
Starting point is 00:29:50 right anymore. What's the basis to take, you know, regular altercations on a sidewalk somewhere in Pennsylvania and bring federal charges over it? Why should the average American care about this? Well, I don't know about you. I don't want to be dragged out of my house while I'm trying to enjoy my morning coffee by 20 heavily armed federal agents pointing pointing guns at me and have my wife and kids have to watch that, all because I exercise my First Amendment rights or I just happen to step out line. At this point, it is a real, this is a real issue that people, it should wake us up, not just the overreach. Bringing the lawsuit would be bad enough, or bringing the prosecution, bad enough. But then executing the arrest warrant the way they did, it should frighten all of us.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Have you produced the letter yet that says, hey, we'll bring our client in. And would you be willing to share that? Absolutely. I will. I will, we will send that to you right away. Okay. I'd like to see it because that totally, that totally changes everything. In my point of view, you know, it's, it's, I think your client is in the right here, but you never know, give the benefit of the doubt. But if you said three months ago, we will produce our client, it's not a problem,
Starting point is 00:31:10 just let us know, why would they have chosen this other than to intimidate and send a message to everybody? And that's the issue. Again, the point is, let's say you believe them, and my client was in the wrong. That's a matter for the local DA. It's not a federal case. It's certainly not a face violation. Nobody was stopped from having an abortion or what have you. The only reason to do this is to intimidate people of faith and pro-life Americans from exercising their rights.
Starting point is 00:31:41 I wish you all the best of luck and the best to your client, the family. I can't even imagine what the kids are going through right now. But thank you, Peter. I appreciate it. God bless. Hey, thank you, Glenn. God bless you, too. You bet.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Keep this family and this attorney in your prayers. This has got to stop. And I fear it's going to get uglier before it gets better, especially if Republicans don't show up and vote. If you don't vote, this kind of stuff is going to go. crazy. So please go out and vote. The best of the Glenn Beck program. Richard Grinnell. Richard, how are you, sir?
Starting point is 00:32:31 Thanks for having me, Glenn. It's one of my favorite times is to have a long conversation with you. So thank you for invited me. I appreciate it. You're welcome on this program anytime. I've got so much to talk to you about. But let me start here first with your thoughts on what is happening with the FBI between Marlago and now the the pro-life advocate who had the FBI come into his house, even though his attorney said he'll come in anytime, just tell us when. Yeah, it's really outrageous. Look, we have to start and finish this conversation by saying that the rank and file FBI agents are very good patriots who love their country who do not want partisan politics involved in the investigations, no weaponization of the tools of the FBI and DOJ.
Starting point is 00:33:23 But unfortunately, the leadership, I saw firsthand, the leadership is not like that. Look, we have a system, whether it's DOJ or the FBI or the State Department or the Department of Defense. In order to get promoted in the swamp, you have to do certain things that the swamp wants you to do. You just don't get promoted up the chain, which means pay increases, which means better retirement. It means a bigger salary and a bigger office, all of those accoutrements that we value as humans. And so Washington, D.C. has created a system that unless you abide by their rules, which is woke rules, which is always going after Republicans, this is the system that,
Starting point is 00:34:15 that is created in our bureaucracy. And people are eager to climb that ladder so they play that game. But I will tell you we have a crisis at DOJ and at the FBI because they have weaponized their power against people they don't like. It's crushing dissent. And look no further, Glenn,
Starting point is 00:34:38 than first and second generation Americans who are the canaries in the coal mine. They have left fascism and totality. totalitarianism. They're the ones on the front lines screaming about the Democratic Party, the media, and the problems in Washington, D.C. They see it. They left it. So can we, can we rid ourselves of it? I mean, you were front and center in this fight when Trump was in office. You know it from the inside is the DNI. So can we crush this? Yeah, we can. And the reason why. say that is because I faced the rank and file. Look, I'll tell you a very quick story when I was declassifying certain transcripts and certain information. I looked at the information and it was clear to me. It was not a source of how we collect intelligence and it was not a method on how we gathered it.
Starting point is 00:35:34 And I went straight to the DOJ and FBI leadership and I said, I have the authority. I'm going to declassify this information. And both Barr and Ray just, you know, really said no. It's not a good idea. They started by doing the bureaucratic thing of delaying me, asking, you know, stupid questions that just were clearly about bureaucracy, shoving me off on their deputies who would then create more bureaucracy. I was no dummy. I knew what they were doing. So I pushed forward for me, with the rank and file FBI agents whose names had been clearly attached to the redactions and to the classified information blocking. And I had a meeting, I pushed forward, looked them in the eye and I said, why did you classify,
Starting point is 00:36:33 why did you redact this information? It's clearly not a source for method. They looked at me, crossed the table, at the Department of Justice, and I said, and I said, and said, we didn't, we don't agree with that. We didn't want to do that. Our bosses did. There were wimpy people in leadership who hide behind the tough decisions by throwing other people under the bus. As soon as I heard that, I said, I'm unredacting this.
Starting point is 00:37:05 This is an outrage. This is a cover up. And of course, you know, the leadership was not supportive, but I didn't care. They threatened to sue me or expose me as someone who was sharing classified information. I said, oh, baloney, I'll challenge you. And by the way, once I did it, once I unredacted it, once I released it to the public, and everybody saw that there was a cover-up of the Russian collusion hoax. no one sued me.
Starting point is 00:37:39 They threatened to, they tried to stop me, but the reality is, in telling you this story, is that the rank and file, know there's a problem, they hate it, but this is their life. They live in Washington, D.C., and this is their career, and this is, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:56 everything they know and their family needs is in this job, and they will be thrown out, and it will be very difficult for them. So we need leadership change. It's a long answer. answer to say yes, it can be done. We need leadership change. Do I have, do I have Attorney General Barr wrong? Because I met with him and I really liked him.
Starting point is 00:38:17 I thought he was an honest guy. But there were a few things that didn't quite make sense to me. And we've seen nothing come out of the investigations that, you know, he was supposedly protecting. Do I have him wrong? Is he a bad guy? I'm somebody that recognizes that there are gray patterns, right? That everything is not black and white. I sat next to Attorney General Barr in the cabinet. He was incredibly nice to me. He was incredibly complimentary of my brave and courageous work.
Starting point is 00:38:55 And I think relatively supportive. But there were times when he as someone who values Washington, D.C., He is somebody who wanted to have a life still in the Washington, D.C. legal circles, couldn't get past tradition. Right. And I think that's the best way to say it is that there are people trapped by tradition who don't want to support the outsiders or the people that are rocking the boat. And to me, Barr failed that test too many times. Okay. Let me ask you, with the DOJ and Donald Trump, I mean, it.
Starting point is 00:39:34 It seems as though the DOJ was very nervous about what Donald Trump had, and they have gone after him because he's got something on them, right? Because of tradition. Look, the Records Act people are total hypocrites. You look at how they treated Obama. Right. And it's completely different than how they're treating Trump. Correct. Think of the Records Act people as.
Starting point is 00:40:04 the ultimate swamp creatures to control. Here is a group of people who literally are saying, we bureaucrats, must collect and approve what the President of the United States does. I'm sorry, that's crazy. The President of the United States doesn't report to anyone when it comes to classifying information or declassifying information. This is clear in the law. But it's not clear in the tradition of Washington, D.C. These traditionalists, these people, well, everybody always comes to the record back people. And, you know, we are people that get to control this. It's a control thing.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Washington, D.C. doesn't do well when people throw out tradition and try to fight for the people rather than for the process. So did, was the FBI trying to cover their tracks? Yeah, look, on a daily basis, all of the agencies in Washington, D.C., including the FBI and DOJ, they classify information when they look bad so that it doesn't get out to the public. You've got people like Adam Schiff who play along with this and who only leak certain information that helps the Democrats. It happens on the right as well. But what we're seeing is that this swamp attitude is a protection of the system.
Starting point is 00:41:32 So, yeah, they don't want the bad PR that they made a really bad decision early on with the FISA warrant. There was so many warnings early on that the Russian collusion hoax was a hoax perpetrated by Hillary's people throughout the government, Victoria Newland, who was the Assistant Secretary of State for Europe at the time, who ushered in the Steele dossier in London. and, you know, guess who else was the station chief at that time in London was Gina Haspel, who became the CIA director. So you've really got this swamp mentality of protecting Hillary early on trying to come up with every way they can to make sure that Hillary wins. and DOJ leadership, FBI leadership, playing along because the system in D.C. wanted Hillary. She had been Secretary of State. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:36 She was somebody they knew. And she had a team. And the team was acting. It was also, though, because this, at least it seems to me, that this, you know, great reset, this ESG system is in play all. over the world. And, you know, I think this is why they're going after anyone who, I mean, look what's happening. Look what happened with the, what was it, the Swedish elections, now the Italian elections. People are starting to say, we don't want your central bank telling us what to do. We don't want the government to collude with business and the central bank.
Starting point is 00:43:17 It's not what we're looking for. By the way, by the way, if the European Union or the central bank or the feds were making decisions about the people. I don't think you would see the push back. But over time, let's let's just take corporate America, Glenn. You and I know Republicans have been very supportive of corporate America, lower taxes, lower taxes and chamber of commerce events. And then the corporate America went the way of the media and our universities. They're completely woke. They're not for the people. They're for their own power. We all see it. Why are Republicans still wanting to fight for corporate America and lower taxes for corporate America? I'm not there. I'm done with it. I'm done with this woke. Look, I think the counterculture is now
Starting point is 00:44:10 conservative because the big man controls the universities, the media, Wall Street, corporate America, everything. If you want to be a 60s hippie that goes after the big man and does your own thing, you better be a conservative to this day. This is why Bill Maher is like abandoning the left. Richard, I have to ask you one more question before we get to California, and that is you were the ambassador of Germany in Germany when they laughed at Donald Trump, trying to warm about being reliant on Russian energy.
Starting point is 00:44:45 How much trouble is Europe in? right now. I mean, we able for Europe. They, they resisted every single diplomatic nicety. Every single tried to be, you know, strong. We tried to be silent. We tried to be, you know, as diplomatic as possible. Nothing worked. We, we had all sorts of levels of pressure. And Chancellor Merkel led the Germans to a supply of energy. Now, look, the reason she did it, It's not talked about. But the Green Party in Germany was on the rise. They were about to get her.
Starting point is 00:45:33 And so what we really saw is her survival instincts kicked in politically. She wanted power. So she grabbed and triangulated on the Green Party issues, got rid of nuclear energy, announced she was getting rid of coal. This was, you know, had the Frankfurt soccer mom's all excited to join her party. And so that's what happened. And, you know, shame on the media. People like Christiana Amantor who celebrated every decision of Merkel and never held her to account.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Now we find ourselves in a heap of trouble. I don't know if you saw this morning, but Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 have had some sort of explosions. They're now leaking gas. Clearly, we know that that wasn't just happenstance. Somebody did it. And somebody's out to sabotage. But, you know, this is a problem for our media in Europe who really launched Merkel and her decisions and celebrated her and never stopped. And also the American media who did the same thing.
Starting point is 00:46:38 We'll call her just a genius. We need to have a debate about the 16 years of Merkelism. Let me talk to you quickly because we're running out of time. And Richard, I would love to have you on again, if I may ask now. to have you on again. But talk to me about California because California seems to be the anti-Dissantis. It seems to me that in 2024 or 2020-whatever, eight, we're going to have two states to look at. The DeSantis, Florida, and the California under Gavin Newsom.
Starting point is 00:47:16 And they're going in radically different ways. Yeah, they are. And I'm trying to, I'm on a one-man mission to separate the word California from Gavin Newsom. It's Gavin Newsom, who is, you know, we live on the ocean in California, but we can't increase the supply of water somehow. We're just telling people to conserve. We have the worst energy solutions. I'm no, I'm no great economist. But when I went to Harvard, I had to show up early to do dummy economics. And in that class, I learned. that if you increase the supply, you can actually lower the equilibrium price. And so it's basic economics that Gavin Newsom doesn't understand. We need to increase the supply. My attitude is, I want to do to California what Stacey Abrams did to Georgia. If you would have told me five years ago that Georgia was going to send two progressive left blue senators to Washington, D.C. to represent Georgia.
Starting point is 00:48:18 I would have said you're full of it. It should be a red state. But she dug deep. Dacey Abrams went county by county, registering people to vote and doing all sorts of manipulations. You look at Ohio and Florida, who used to control everything that happened in American politics for the White House. They were purple, purple. Now they're hard red. Now, why is that?
Starting point is 00:48:45 because people took the time, a five-year, six-year plan to register people to vote. We're doing that in California. I took a pass at running for governor because the numbers just don't add up right now. Right. But what I did do is launch Fix California. You can go to FixCalifornia. Our donors, Glenn, in California, are showing up for this Sixth, California initiative. We're doing great stuff, registering so many voters.
Starting point is 00:49:11 We found 1.4 million conservatives sitting on the sidelines in California. Wow. You're going to get them registered. Wow. All right, Richard, great to talk to you. My best to you and your family. Go to fixcalfournia.com. That's fixcalfornia.com.

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