The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Guests: Salena Zito & Dallas Alexander | 7/15/24

Episode Date: July 15, 2024

Glenn lays out what Trump should say in his speech at the RNC convention. Washington Examiner national political reporter Salena Zito joins to share her experience being four feet from Trump when he was almost assassinated. Canadian special forces sniper Dallas Alexander, who holds the world record for the longest snipe shot, joins to discuss why he believes Trump's shooter didn't work alone.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Did it play a role? Absolutely. Are they responsible for it? Well, I want to get into that in just a second. But the rhetoric has been nonstop that this guy is Hitler that has to be eliminated. He's a Hitlerian. He is, he's a, you know, Fifth Reich. He is going to round people up just like Hitler did. That plays a role in unstable heads. Okay. But you can't, you can't be responsible for all unstable people that are out there because there's a lot of unstable people, but you can watch your language. Here's what I think really happened with this kid, and I'm just guessing. This kid is being pumped full of all kinds of bad ideas in school. He is being pumped full of all kinds of bad ideas in the media and social media. He is also seeing that you're really kind of a

hero if you, you know, are part of BLM and you burn a city down. If you're on the right side, there is, there is no trial for you. There's no problem. In fact, the vice president will bail you out. So he's seeing the lack of enforcement on one side, which makes it appear that that side is right. And the oldest question known to, you, a man in the 20th century is if you could go back and kill baby Hitler, would you? Implying that you're a hero if you would. The only one that's responsible is the shooter. But there are other things that influence the minds of unstable people.

And I want to bring their rhetoric into play because why are they going after Donald Trump for January 6th because he said, go to the Capitol peacefully, let your voice be heard. They're saying he incited this. Those aren't inciting words. Insiding words are much more like it's time we put a bullseye on Donald Trump and Donald Trump is Hitler who has to be eliminated. Now, I don't think that Joe Biden meant the bull's eye thing. Just like Sarah Palin didn't mean the crosshairs. But if you're going to be consistent, if you're going to be morally consistent, if you're actually outraged by crosshairs, then you should be outraged by bullseye. And if you think somebody's rhetoric can actually cause people to go to the capital and tear it apart, well, then you should be concerned about

the rhetoric of this guy's Hitler that has to be eliminated. And if you want to be morally consistent, because you're trying that guy, shouldn't you be trying this president as well? Is anybody on the left beginning to see the problems with the cases that they have brought? So here's what I hope the president would say. First of all, I don't think I've seen a bigger act of courage in my lifetime from a president

to stand up and insist that he can look at the crowd, make an opening for me so I can see the crowd, and to raise his fist and say fight. Now, I know a lot of people on the left, they want to say, well, see, he's going for violence. No. Fight for what you believe in. Stop being mealy-mouthed about it.

Stand up. Stand up. Fight at the ballot box. Stand up and stop just being plowed under by lies. Fight! You darn right. You darn right. I thought it was an amazing moment.

However, I was really happy to read. what he said he's going to Milwaukee, yet another amazing, think about what it feels like to be shot at, and almost killed. How long would it take before you could go out in public again? He went last night till Milwaukee, which is significant. We'll tell you why here in a little while. He goes to Milwaukee, and he's on the ground, and he says he's changing the theme of the convention that's happening this week.

He's changing it to unity, to peace. I would hope the president will come out and say something along the lines of we're standing here today because America is resilient. A few days ago, somebody tried to kill me.

But by God's grace, that bullet only grazed me. But it is, a stark reminder of the divisions and the anger that we see today. And we're at a critical moment. And when you have a bullet whizz by your head, there's two ways to go. One is vengeance and the other is unity. And our nation is divided. Trust is low in our neighborhoods and the media everywhere. But let me echo the words of RFK, when Martin Luther King was shot.

What we need in the United States is not division. What we need in the United States is not hatred. What we need in the United States is not violence or lawlessness, but it is love and wisdom and compassion toward one another. America is the land of the underdog, of the little guy. and we've always been that way. But when I say fight, what I mean is the little guy needs to rise up.

Make sure your voice is heard to be not afraid. We need to fight, but not with violence. We fight with our words. We fight on the streets with our words and with our actions. And we need to stand up and show what America really means to stand up against the fear and intimidation. Remember, America was built on the idea that all men and women are created equal with unalienable rights, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness.

They're not just words. They are the foundation of this country. Beginning today, let's show the rest of the world what it means to be American. if you believe that America is an exceptional place, then it's the people that make it that way. Every voice matters. Every citizen matters. Stand up for the principles in our Bill of Rights.

Defend the truth with integrity and courage. Forgive others without compromising our values. I would hope the president would say, join me now in a different case. fight, not with guns, but with ideas, not with hatred, but with understanding. To begin to write a new chapter in our history, let's rise above our differences and find our e-pluribus unum, our common ground again, because I do believe that all Americans should not be afraid of their commander-in-chief. If you are afraid of the president, either on the right or the left, that is showing you and screaming at you, the power in the Oval Office is too great. And our

republic is out of balance. And that's what Project 2025 is all about. That's what I'm going to try to do. That's what the Supreme Court is doing. They are not impover. the seat of the presidency. I'm a president that is going to try to reduce the power of the presidency. We're in the United States of America and we're strong. We're brave. We're compassionate. But it's time to rise to the challenge and fight with the spirit that has always guided us. Let's be the light in dark times. Let's stand together shoulder to shoulder. we're not a nation divided by fear.

We need to be a nation that is united by hope. This is our time to prove the American dream is alive and well. That's what I hope the president says. We already know the difference between the policies. We know for the first time in my lifetime, we have two presidents, two administrations we can A, B, compare. It's not like, well, will he do this? We know what he did last time.

We know what Joe Biden has done this time. The winning message will be the message that most Americans want to hear. This has got to stop. And it's not going to stop by me forcing half the country to shut up. It's not going to stop by them forcing the other half to shut up. It's going to happen because a leader stands up. And says enough is enough. And can convince the American people can reverse all of the damage

that the elites in our colleges and institutions and our media has done over the last 20 years to convince us that we're a bad people, that we're a racist people. We've done some bad things. But usually the worst things we do are led by our own government. and I've never believed the government was America. I've always believed the citizens were. There are a couple of things that could come our way that we should be aware of. But the most important thing is that you reach out to those who think differently

and you show them we are not the neo-Nazi fascist, that they have been groomed to believe. It is important today that we all reach out to somebody that doesn't agree with us that is a friend. Just say, how you doing today? Yeah, I know. Our guy was shot. But I want you to know I don't hold you responsible for that.

I'm sure you were just as offended as I was. If they weren't, move on. but most likely any decent American was horrified by what they saw over the weekend. Sleeping Beauty laid down for a nap. She slept for years before some jerk came along and woke her up with a physical assault, honestly. Honestly. I mean, I learned that from the new Disney telling of that story. It's all fine and dandy for Sleeping Beauty, but, you know, where's that evil chick with the poison spindle when I can't get some sleep?

I'm laying up in bed. I'm like, where, where is she? Come on with your evil spindle. I dare you. Story of my life. But in another way, I mean, even my wife, I don't think would wake me up with a kiss, so I don't know if I'll be asleep. There's another way that you can get a good night sleep and wake up the next morning feeling refreshed. Z-factor. It's from release factor. It's their sleep aid. And it is all natural. It helps you to fall asleep faster, sleep better, and stay asleep longer. Z Factor uses a formula of four all natural ingredients to calm your mind and relax your body, so you can ease into sleep faster and sleep right through the night.

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Uh, Stu, give me the breaking news about Jack Smith. Well, according to Judge Cannon, this is the judge in the case in Florida, his appointment is unconstitutional. And the classified documents case has been dismissed. Now, this will surely be challenged, of course, but a massive development. How do you challenge that? He was not appointed in the correct way. I mean, he's not a special prosecutor.

You cannot just make up the rules as you go along. This is great. I mean, I was really upset about Alec Baldwin because I have heard things from people that were on the set that would lead one to believe that Alec Baldwin should go to jail or be held responsible for the shooting on his film. film. However, the prosecution was withholding evidence from his defense, and so the judge dismissed it. Well, I'm pissed at the prosecution, but the judge did the right thing. You do not cut corners when it comes to people's rights. All right, let me go to Selena Zito, who was in Pennsylvania this weekend with the president, and she was about four feet away. Selina.

I'm glad you're safe. Thank you so much, Glenn. So tell me the story. What did you see? What happened? Well, I think the story begins with, I was scheduled to fly with the president, along with my daughter and son-in-law, to do an extensive interview from flying from Butler, Pennsylvania,

to Bedminster after the rally. However, a few minutes before he was set to speak, Their advanced team came back and grabbed myself, my daughter, phone to a journalist, my son-in-law, and said, the president wants to say hi to you. So they take us back behind the stage into a holding room. And he's there with several law enforcement people. They're taking pictures, you know, shaking hands. It's a very happy place in this holding area. And he sees me, he said, hey, Selena, my gosh, it's so great to see you.

really, really looking forward to talking about Pennsylvania and talking about, you know, you're doing the interview. I left the room and because we were behind the stage, they told us you're going to just have to go into the bumper because we need to get you to the motorcade because you're going to leave with the president right after the rally. So I was in the bumper. It's a well that goes around the stage that separates you. yourself, the speaker, the president from the audience. And it gives the ability for photojournalists, thank goodness, because the amazing work that they did covering it and chronicling it. And I was, and my daughters have great photos too.

And we were to his left. And Trump did something that he never does. I've covered his rallies forever. He never turns his neck either way. Now, he might turn his body, but he never turns his neck. He never looks the other direction. He also did something he never did. And he got, he got, he became like his Ross Perot moment.

He brought a chart out. And the chart had, um, on it, the, um, sort of the amount of illegal immigrants that have crossed. And he was pointing to the low point, which was when he was president, when I heard pop, pop, pop. he grabs his face, I see the blood on his face, he immediately gets down in a protective posture. He is surrounded, as he is being surrounded by the law enforcement, I hear pop, pop, pop, pop, again. This sounded to me like a different caliber, not the same gun that was first used. and I watch them

I can hear them talking I can hear the chatter between them I'm right there and at one point they say it's time to get you know we're going to go we're going to go and I hear the president say I gotta get my shoe guys I'm paraphrasing but apparently

someone had knocked his shoe off when they put him in a protective stance and he rises up And he lifts his hand and he says, fight. I can hear him say fight maybe five times. And he projects it out to the crowd. Then they come past me. I'm on the ground at this point.

And he does not have his hat on, but someone has his hat. And it just sort of, it was almost like slow motion just fell right in front of me. And then they take him off to the motorcade. As he goes that way, I see people in the VIP section, the bleachers, someone is injured, and people are rushing towards them. Within minutes, they take us out of the bumper and place us into a holding area. I think because they were worried that we were okay. It was very unclear if any of the photojournalists, you know, were hit or hurt. and so that's what I saw.

Did you get on the plane then with president afterwards? No, but here's how I got the interview with him. So the next morning, and it was early, like yesterday, that was yesterday, my God, the sense of time is bizarre at this moment. He calls me early yesterday morning, and he said, Selena, are you and your daughter Shannon and your son-in-law Michael okay. And I really want to apologize for not being allowed to do that, or not being able to

do that interview with you. And I said, Mr. President, you were shot. I feel like we're good. I feel like we're good. So what did he say to you? He just, well, you know, he talked for a while.

He called me back a couple different times. eventually did an interview. But the thrust of his emotion was someone who is feeling incredibly thankful, as someone that recognizes that was an act of God. It was a divine intervention because he never does what he did when he did and the minute the second that he made that decision. He doesn't know why he made that decision. He always. turns his body, which was, had he done that, he still would have been shot. So whether he was facing forward or facing to the side, but full body, he still would have been shot in the head. But because he turned his neck, which is something he never does. If you've ever been to a Trump

rally, it's a very transactional event between him and the people that are there. And so he always is projecting towards them. He never looks away from them. And he talked just about, you know, he said, I had a humdinger of a speech I was going to give. Those are the exact words. He said, but, you know, it's important to me at the moment. I understand, understand knowing that I was saved.

And there is a purpose there. and that I need to meet that purpose, that moment. And he said he did, when he stood up and raised his fist, he said it wasn't about him. He said, American presidents represent not themselves. They represent the country. To me, it was incredibly important to convey that the country is okay, that we are okay.

So, Selena, when you, when you, say he recognized this moment, it feels like this could be transformative in his life, but also his life as a politician. Did you get that sense? And when he was talking about going to Wisconsin, he said that he's changing the theme of it. He's not going to go after Biden, but he's going to go after unity. Do you think this is transformative? Absolutely. You know, what is interesting to me as someone who has covered him for over nine years and has really understood the Trump voter, mainly because of my geographical and emotional location in the Appalachian Midwest. people have turned Make America Great into a sort of slang term, a derogatory term, they call it MAGA. But Make America Great again is an aspirational sentiment.

And I think he understands that he is now transformed to being in a more aspirational moment. that we need as a country to be part of something bigger than ourselves. What is your take on the security, the lack of securing the president? It was, I mean, if he would have been killed, this would have been the JFK assassination times a thousand when it comes to conspiracy theories. wasn't this covered? Why wasn't this covered? Why did they wait so long to shoot the guy? I mean, what are your thoughts on that? Do you have any? Well, I didn't have, in the moment with the security I saw was immediate and protective because they surrounded him. They were on top of him. They put their bodies all around him.

and there were immediately men with really big guns standing over me because they surround, I don't think that's seen as much in some of the video clips, but that whole perimeter, they were, you mean, they were aiming it, they were there protecting him. They were there. But, I think, that he said that. Having said that, I think the preparation, it appears to be that the preparation was, had many holes and was very faulty. You know, this is Western Pennsylvania.

Not only were there outbuildings that were not even two football fields away that were not in the perimeter. There's also then wooded areas around it. Western Pennsylvania is filled with crops of trees everywhere. You know, so when you look at that, you wonder, huh, why that should have been secured. Somebody could have been in those trees. Well, they usually will take something and they will block the view from those areas. If they can't secure it, they'll put, you know, a big sign or something in the way. So if somebody were in the woods or on that rooftop, they wouldn't have view of the stage.

And that wasn't done either for some unknown reason. No, and the assumption I had going in is I'm walking in at around noon, that those outbuildings, this is a farm show complex. So at a farm show complex, there's always these big sheds that, you know, have where the livestock are, you know, for these big farm events, farm events. Farm shows are big deals in the Great Lakes Midwest. And I made the assumption that they were, along with the buildings right behind them, which was that business that he climbed onto, I assumed they were part of the protective area. But now we're finding out obviously they were not.

They were not. Selina, I know you have to run. Thank you so much for making time for us. today and I'm glad that you're well and that things worked out the way they did over the weekend. Thank you so much, Selena. God bless. Thank you, Sam. The best of the Glenn Beck program. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program and we say hello now to Dallas Alexander.

He is a retired Canadian Special Forces sniper. He actually holds the record for the longest kill and that is at 2.1 miles, which is remarkable. Just the amount of math involved in that just hurts my head. Dallas, welcome to the program. Yes, for having you. You bet. So you have said some pretty controversial things, and

I wanted to hear it from the horse's mouth because you do have experience in this. You don't believe that this was just incompetence on the Secret Services side? Can you make the case? Yeah, I think, like you said, I have some experience. I did that job for a long time, close protection and protecting VIPs and stuff up to,

up to including our prime minister in Canada, was part of my job. And I think looking at the situation yesterday, or the day before, rather, any amount of tactical professional. And, you know, I've seen the videos and there was, I don't know how many on the ground from, you know, police and Secret Service and too many people there to not have the most obvious position. Like you, I said this before, children who play call of duty or go to paintball would know that that roof is the most important position.

And that building is one of the most important buildings too secure. period. Like, just not picking that up is impossible. It seems impossible to me, but, you know, sometimes the impossible happens just through sheer incompetence. So what are you, in your world where you are,

you're just war gaming this, I think it's important for people to know there's no evidence of anything yet, except questions, and what the question, Dallas just brought up is 100% valid and needs to be answered to satisfactory. We have to know why they weren't watching that if they weren't. So what do you think would have happened? I said on a video yesterday is that, and this isn't me pointing a finger at anyone in

particular or a party or an agency, but someone within like the inside, quote, unquote, had to have helped with this. Like, you can't walk through layers of security like that and then climb up a ladder to the most obvious shooting position and take a shot at, you know, the former president and maybe future president. Like, somewhere along that chain, like, you know, I think there's talk of coming out that he had a van and there was explosives and so, like, details are going to be crazy for a little while.

But just from that to having the shots happen, there had to be someone that helped with that. Well, Dallas, they did say that this was not part of the secure location. This was an adjacent property, so he didn't have to go through security to get the rifle there. but again, you would have been, if you're a secret service, you would have been at least, if you're not covering that building with bodies and somebody up on there, you would at least be covering it with eyesight, would you not? Yeah, absolutely. And especially with a covered approach like that,

the building sloping away from, you know, the other sniper team or whatever they could see it, it wouldn't be covered. Like, I saw that just by on a, Like it flashed on the screen at a restaurant I was out. And immediately, I'm like the two most obvious things, that building and then the water tower in the background. And you don't need any special training for that. And yet there was a bunch of people there with special training

and presumably leading up to him days before. Hey, Dallas. My name is Jason Bottsrell. I'm a Glenn's head writer and chief researcher. Can you explain from the sniper's perspective, especially in a situation like this in close protection details, upon visual acquisition of an enemy sniper, does the counter sniper have permission to immediately take action and fire?

Or do they have to go through like a long process of verifying and then getting permission and all that? Yeah, so that very much depends on the department, what the ROEs are. And I, like, I can't speak to the Secret Service when they're working with a police force. I have no idea. I know in the jobs that I have done, if there is a sniper position and I'm at counter-sniper sniper-over-watch, yeah, you're shooting. You're not waiting for someone to give you permission to shoot. Can I ask as a sniper overwatch, do you also, are you focused on a specific pause, or are you kind of scanning the entire horizon?

Yeah, it sort of depends on the mission and how many other sniper teams there are. So if you have a bunch of teams, you'll have areas of responsibility. If you are, you know, tasked with watching one specific doorway or something, then that's where you stay. So mission, it's mission dependent. Right. So, Dallas, let me ask you, there was a five mile an hour wind. This is, you know, it looks like by the grace of God, Donald Trump turned his head. A, how easy of a shot was this for a 20-something?

and how close did we come to losing a president? Yeah, that's something I've been thinking about, you know, for the last couple of days. It's crazy because if it would have been just, you know, an inch or two the other way, I would, I just hate to think about what would have happened, you know, in this country and the whole world, it would have been very crazy.

But the shot, you know, I was asking somebody about this yesterday, I haven't got confirmation of what the optics on the rifle were, which makes a big difference. It's not generally a very hard shot. I think it was 150 yards roughly. It doesn't take much shooting training whatsoever to be able to hit a head-sized target at 150 yards. Wynn definitely would play a factor.

I think the caliber was 5, 5, 5, 6.6, even that I'm not 100% sure. But it's not a difficult shot, But it's also not unmissable. You know, if he only has an Eotech site or something like that. And you don't have a lot of gun training. It's not something that you're for sure going to hit, which is maybe why he sent. I think it was five or eight rounds.

Have you ever shot and had them dead in your sights and they moved at the very last minute like this? How often does that happen? Oh, from that range, like, that's pretty wild, I think. I think someone telling me yesterday that they heard it was an Eotech site made a little more sense to me because if they had a scoped rifle, you know, with any magnification, 10 power or whatever, it would have been very a lot easier to make. Dallas, thanks for your weighing in on this.

I really hope that you're wrong. What are the questions that we should be demanding from our Secret Service? Oh, geez, the breakdown is crazy. Like, there's so many layers to this. And it would be, I don't even know who started the planning how long ago it was. But to miss something that obvious, again, I don't think there's an explanation. I think it just needs a deep dive investigation. I don't think competence.

And I worked in the government for a long time. So I know incompetence. And there's a ton of it. I just don't think that that is what explains this problem away. I think something happened, and I think there needs to be very, very shady. So you don't think that even incompetence would cover this because it's so obvious. Yeah, like I think you could take a 10-year-old out there and say, okay, we want to plan security, what should we look at? And it'll be a kid who played call of duties and tell you this rooftop right here is the most dangerous point.

It's overlooking where the president's going to be speaking or the foreign president's going to be speaking. It's going to be that and the water tower. But it couldn't be just one person if that was happening. It would have to involve a team, wouldn't it? Because somebody else on the team would go, Bill, what the hell are you talking about? We got to cover the roof. That's what I mean. So I'm saying in all these videos, whether it's Secret Service agents or local police or whatever it is,

these are all tactical professionals. And even if their level of competence is low, it still doesn't matter. That's such an obvious basic thing. You could take a Navy cook or whatever, and he's going to go, oh, yeah, tactically speaking, we've got to look at that thing. So out of all the people on the ground,

all the people involved, it just doesn't make any sense that that one position and the most important position, arguably, was just not being watched. And then like a ladder. Someone could put up a ladder and climb up. It doesn't make any sense.

Well, apparently the ladder was attached to the building, so nobody had to bring a ladder or move it up. Let me ask you, the thing that bothers me is that all of the people on the ground were pointing and shouting, shooter, shooter, shooter. Is it possible that nobody heard that, that it didn't get up, you know, to the guys. I mean, if you're a police officer or you're in Secret Service,

wouldn't you radio that in immediately? Yeah, you would hope. I mean, this is the part of it that I think could be, you could point to incompetence. I've seen communication breakdown when things get crazy. Radio's not work. Like, I'm guessing all the agencies there, whoever local police and

security of the probably not using the same radio and gear and there's probably someone passing along the message. In chaotic times, I've seen communication be poorly executed to like a surprising level. So that part I could almost I could almost wrap my head around it being blamed on incompetence,

but I just think everything leading up to there being a guy with a gun on a roof within essentially zeroing range of a rifle to the president. To me, that doesn't add up whatsoever. And they would have recorded everything that was said, would they not? I don't know what the SOPs are actually, like for Secret Service and police. The missions I've gone on, unless it was going to like a tactical center or something, like on the ground, we were not recording our radio conversation.

Thank you so much. I appreciate it. No, I know. I know. I know. Thank you for pointing this out and giving us questions that really need to be answered. Dallas Alexander, appreciate it. God bless. Stay safe. Thanks for having me. When you were little, you had been able to brasset in the course of recreat, always in trying to negotiate and do make these exchanges. The appellee Negoti-Titre T-D.

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