The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Herschel Walker & Bill O’Reilly | 10/21/22

Episode Date: October 21, 2022

Georgia Senate candidate Herschel Walker joins to discuss why he’s confident tthe attacks against him by Big Tech and the media won’t work. Bill O’Reilly explains why he believes the media’s midterm coverage is way off and gives his take on special counsel John Durham as his investigation wraps up. “Your Welcome” host Michael Malice reveals his favorite candidate of the year and the biggest campaign surprises so far. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Yeah, like they just have this political system where I think they flip a coin every morning to see who's prime minister. I don't think it's that. You know, the thing on this is, is, wasn't she trying to be Margaret Thatcher? Yeah. Oh, gosh, you wanted to lower tax rates a little bit and make them more energy independent. And really, they threw out Liz Truss with the goal of throwing out conservatism. Forty-forever. Four days.

Yeah. 44 days. And it worked. And, you know, I don't know if you can. I don't know anything about her. I mean, I mean, I was, somebody said, you know, a big story today is Liz Truss a couple of days. And I'm like, who the hell is Liz Truss? I completely forgot.

You know, he's been in as prime minister for 44 days. It's incredible. It's incredible. It's, I don't know if you don't have the love of a lot of people. I mean, walk through walls of fire kind of love by a lot of people in the country. If you can beat the media and the deep state and the central banks. I should tell you that we had a vote and it was a vote of no confidence and you've been removed as host. That's fantastic.

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You're listening to The Best of the Glenbeck Program. Welcome to the Glenbeck Program. We are thrilled to welcome the next senator from the great state of Georgia. Heisman trophy winner, Herschel Walker. Hello, Herschel. How are you, sir? Hello, sir. How are you doing? Very good. I'm glad to see that you are holding a together. We had real concerns, Herschel, Stu and I, we talked about it. You are a good guy, nice guy. You had your issues in the past, but you dealt with them and you were forthcoming. But to be in your position, we knew they were coming after you with everything and anything they could think of. And they have. And you have held up remarkably well under this pressure. I don't

don't know of, I don't think I've, can you think of another person that is not political at all that got in and was able to withstand the storm that he's stood? Well, you know, to be honest with it, I can't think of anyone that's ever done it, but I can say this is, you know, I believe in the Lord Jesus. And I told you when I got in this race, this is much bigger than Herschel Walker. Yeah, I know. I hope to see that right now that they would do and say anything for this seat, the seat is so important to them that if they have to destroy me, they're going to try it, but they don't realize that I told them, I have the Lord Jesus on my side, and I'm going to fight through it,

and I fall through it, and right now, they're nervous, they're scared of death right now, so they're going to come back to something else, but I think after that debate, he saw then that he was that wolf and sheet clothing that I've called him out on, and I'm going to go after him even more and let him know that he's been a terrible senator for Georgia. he's a terrible senator for the United States. His voting record has been terrible. The same as Biden. Voting record has been terrible what he's done to this country.

And I'm going to keep fighting. Herschel, I Googled you this morning and just put the, Herschel Walker clicked on news. You know, they can change elections. We know this. Google can change elections by just changing the order of stories. Listen to the way Google is trying to come after you. First story.

Herschel Walker calls his mental illness cured. Experts say, not so simple. Daily Beast. Tuning out the news, prank calls Herschel Walker. I wanted to report a crime. CNN, opinion, the real Herschel Walker problem. Newsweek. There are two preachers.

Herschel Walker is no choice for the faithful. Another one from the Daily Beast that isn't good. You've got one that is from Fox News. that is decent, then the Guardian, bad, again, MSNBC. There is nothing except one story at the bottom of the page from Fox News. That's okay. Why do they hate you so much? Why are they so afraid of you?

Well, they're afraid of me because I'm a black man that I have my own thoughts. I have my own thoughts, and they're afraid that if I let everyone know that, you know, you can have your own thoughts, that they can't just rude me. kind of just have, that kind of just tell me what to do. And I think that's the reason that I'm so afraid of me and that I will speak my mind, that I will go to Washington and fight for whatever person that went to Washington was supposed to do. So they're scared of death of me, and I told him no weapon formed against me will prosper. They have continued to write all those things.

But right now, Senator Warnock is either behind me or we're tied, and he spent almost $60 million already. crazy. It's maybe time for him to go. What are people saying on the ground? Have you talked to people that did vote for Herschel Walker that are, or voted for Biden and have seen the light? Well, you know, what people are saying is that, you know, they're so glad that I've stayed above all the trash,

all the family stuff and all this. They want to know about what I'm going to do for them because right now this economy is bad. You know, they, you know, and one thing about, of this. Rafael Warnock got a pass. He got a pass that he has not dealt with. My past has been very transparent. He's got a pass that he hadn't dealt with. And I wouldn't bring it up because I said it's not about what he's done in his family life is what he's done as a senator. As a senator, he voted to put men and women sports, which we disagree with that. He voted against 18,000 border

agents. He voted against that. He voted for all this inflation that we have. You know, he voted to have for you to pay other people college debt. That's what he wanted to do. So I want to get him out of that because him as a senator, he's not done a good job. I tell you, I saw the debate between the two of you, and I thought you did phenomenally well. But you brought something up that was in the news and you're quit back to him.

I didn't write the story. It was hysterical. But his church, that he's running, his outreach and kind of shelter in a way. I mean, you can rent from the church and live in these apartments. Somebody was behind in rent by $28, and they evicted them. Yes. I mean, that's really remarkable.

And, you know, he gives you the Bible verses when he get caught in something, but he didn't realize that I know the Bible as well. So I had to say, hey, Senator, instead of you giving me these Bible verses, Why don't you read a little bit more of that verse? Because that verse, you're not saying that you're supposed to evict people that are hurting. You're not supposed to be victim from their home when you're yet had double your salary. Your income has doubled since you got to Washington. Your income is double and you're evicting people of $28, $30.

And I offered to pay. And I hate to say that, he bared false witness up on stage, pretend he knew nothing about it. He pretended he pretended I did it. And I just found out about it that day. You pretend I did it. And then he brought Dr. King's name in it. And I said, being a leader, take responsibility, but then you fix it. And right now, you see in Washington, nobody wants to take responsibility.

So how are we ever going to get this fixed? My question I asked is, they've done this in less than two years. And I want everyone to know if they've done this in less than two years, think about if we give a senator six more years, what is he going to do to us? If we get six more years, what is going to do to us? We need to stop this right now. So I encourage everyone in Georgia to vote for me, anyone in Texas to vote for someone that believes in America, believes in this Constitution, believes in the Republican Party because I don't care what color you are. Right now, they don't want like a brown person in the Republican Party because they know then more are going to come over

because they're going to start seeing the light that the Democratic Party just want to continue to hold you down, want to continue to think that the government are going to give you something. But no, give me an opportunity. That's all I ask. Give me an opportunity. and I would get it for myself. We're talking to Herschel Walker. Herschel, during the debate,

I was actually impressed they asked this question because they almost never do, which was asked Raphael Warnock, do you have any limitations on abortion? Is there any moment right before birth that you would limit abortion? He completely avoided the question. Do we have any idea?

Has he ever stated anything clear on this? Is there any limitation on abortion in the mind of Raphael Warnock? Well, no. it's not. He believes in abortion all the way up to nine months. He believes that if a baby survived in abortion, he would deny that baby medical care. Wow. That is a minister that has. Now, and I said this, thou shall not kill. That's one of his Ten Commandments. So I ask anyone that is thinking about voting for him, if he cannot keep the ultimate oath to our Almighty God, do you think he's going to

keep it for you? Do you think you're going to keep it for you? Because I said, it is amazing. to me that he's been out there saying all this stuff. He even said, America needs to apologize for it, whiteness. But yet he's not saying, do you have a second redemption? Do you think of forgiveness? That's in your Bible. And it's written in your Bible as well, a house divided, shall not stand. And this is a minister. He should be out preaching together, preaching is bringing people together, taking the baton of Martin Luther King running with it. I have to tell you, I think that was the biggest thing I walked away from.

Here is a guy who's a football player running for an office that, you know, everybody said he was no way he could win. And he's going up against a preacher who is in office. And this preacher looked like almost like an atheist compared to you. I mean, it wasn't hard. Just the questions you were asking him and the way he was answering. No preacher would ever answer questions like that all the way up to birth. And see, I don't think people really care that much. When it comes to the economy or the abortion issue, I think people are picking the economy

and what's happening to our children. That's, you know, abortion is important, but what's happening in our schools and what's happening with our money and our jobs is taking a priority. but people are against abortion. The majority, vast majority of Americans, are against this extremist view of, I can kill a baby on its birthday, or if they are born alive and I tried to kill it,

I'm just going to put it in a closet and let it scream until it dies. Nobody is for that. These guys are. He's a preacher. why are you not baptizing that brave baby? Do you believe in baptism? Since you don't believe in resurrection, do you believe in baptism?

Do you believe in forgiveness? Do you believe in anything? And not that I'm questioning him as a preacher, but if you're going to bring Bible verses up, when you get caught with something, you read the whole scripture. Don't just read half of it, take what you like out of it. That's not what you do. And I just, and I never had a doubt, and I hope you guys believe in me, I never had a doubt that I would beat him in a debate.

I never had a doubt. I said because he didn't know who he had, and I think he honor estimated me, which he has done very a lot in this as being a senator. Well, I will tell you, you were pretty brilliant in saying, look, I'm just a country boy. He talks for a living.

I don't. I probably, I just want to with, you know, just hold my own there because you lowered expectations. and when you start, I mean, I haven't seen people that don't do this for a living, pivot as well as you do. And even asking the, even asked the question on NBC the other day, you know, what, tell me what Biden is done that's good. Well, he likes ice cream. Brilliant answers. Really, really, really good answers.

Well, you know, I asked, you know, when I was telling me what he's done that's good, you know, the first thing he did. when he got as president, he got rid of the Keystone Pipeline. Yeah. That was our energy, which now put us in an international crisis. Yeah. You know, not just as gas and oil, but also food. You know, he put us in a very serious crisis by doing that. And I don't think people realize that.

Your national security, you think about national security, he just put us in. Herschel, I'm so happy that you're doing well. I'm proud of you as a friend. And I am excited for you giving the Democrats the Heisman throughout your term as Senator, should you win. Thank you very much. How can people help and get involved in your campaign? Well, you know, early voters started here in Georgia on Monday. And I want people that can go to Teamhertser.com.

and if you want to contribute to the campaign or if you know people in Georgia that you get telling them to vote for Herschel or can do it not or volunteer because we're going to win this seat for the great state of Georgia but we're also going to win it for America. I think this seat is very, very, very important and I think people can see it how they will say and do anything to keep power. But they keep power from me, they're going to have to work hard. And I'm willing to work. And I just want people to go to TeamHursor.com, find out where I'm going to be seen. speaking and tell your friends to come out and listen and just know that I will fight for Georgia and I'll fight for everyone in America because I believe in this country. I believe in the people and all everyone in America is my family and I'm going to fight for my family. God bless you

Herschel. Thank you so much. We have you in our prayers. God bless. God bless. You bet. Herschel Walker Team Herschel is the web address. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Michael Malice is joining us now. Host of Your Welcome podcast that is just great. He is talking to us about the three biggest Senate races in the country. But I also want to talk to him about some of the tweets he put out about the number of Democrats in the House in the last 100 years. There is, you know, there is a slim, but there is a possibility.

This becomes historic. We'll talk to him about that. Let's go to Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Arizona. Hello, Michael. Good morning. Are you as excited for election night as I am? I actually am because I know what we have planned, some of the things we have planned.

Oh, I don't mean us personally on the Blaze. I just meant I think this is going to be really one of those epic election nights where a lot of very bad people are going to be very upset. Oh, I hope. The delight of the audience. I hope. I hope. I feel weird predicting, but I'm gathering a sense of real optimism here if people go out and vote.

Yeah, I also think what's what I'm most looking forward to, and I would bet you agree, is that many Republicans have, and both Republican politicians and Republican voters, have been tried to be the recipients of a tactic they tried in 2016, which is you cannot vote for the. this person. This person is anathema, taboo, whatever word you want to use, and you do not have a right to choose this person as your candidate. I'm specifically thinking of Kerry Lake. It's probably been hit harder than any other candidate. She's running for governor in Arizona. She's ahead in most of the polls or one point behind and some of the others. The fact that Glenn Yonkin, who by most account, seems to be kind of a milk toast generic Republican, went out of his way to campaign for her, is, and especially when people like Mike Pence campaigned against her in the primary, is very, very telling because this is showing how the corporate media's attempts to define who is acceptable

and who is not acceptable, both for Republican primary voters and for the general electorate to vote for. That power is falling away rapidly, and that is to the great health, as they would put it, our democracy. It is. The fact that we are pulling away from our parties, that we are, questioning all politicians, and we are waking up to the fact the media has been lying to us, that is a good sign of health for the republic. And the fact that Carrie Lake, you know, they have this thesis.

You listen to pundits on, you know, most media networks and you read their articles. They had this thesis that Trump is basically like the head vampire, right? And once we get rid of Trump, everything is going to go back to normal. We all saw those movies. you kill the head vampire, all the other vampires vanish. And I've often said that Trump wasn't the river, he was the dam. You get rid of him, you're going to have this river of people that corporate media would not like. And Kerry Lake is, and Governor DeSantis, of course, are very much playing in the Trump handbook in the sense of taking the fight, not specifically to the Democrats, but to the journalists who are carrying water and running interference for them.

I'm sure you saw it earlier this week when they were yelling at her for being an election denier. and she just busted out the receipts of Stacey Abrams in 2018, Hillary Clinton and who knows how many others in 2016 calling Trump's election illegitimate and saying Governor Kemp in Georgia, his election was stolen. It's honestly, it's what so many of us have said the whole time. Stop being afraid. Stop giving in. Tell the truth.

But it's also the inverse. As another Arizona and John McCain learned, they're never going to live. like you or they're only going to like you insofar as you're doing their bidding. And the second you are in the way of their schemes, as McCain found out in 2008, they will throw you under the bus so fast it would leave you skid marks from California to Maine. Yeah. So talk to me about Federman. Oh, my favorite candidate of this year. I sent him money this week. Just because it's been fun, right? Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, I don't, I'm not sure if they literally shaved the Chewbacca or they found lurch. And they kind of took him from Butler to being in the Senate.

He needs a celloprompter to even hear the questions, which frankly in this day and age makes him presidential more than anything rather than being a senator. He should be running for Biden's seat in Delaware, to be honest, you know, because of the brain damage. And his wife, I don't know if you saw this, Glenn, she was very upset at that report. who was asking very benign germane questions about, look, you need a prompter to hear what I'm saying. Voters are concerned about your health. Is this a concern? How dare you question the health of a man who most recently had a stroke? Right. How dare you? How dare you? How dare you, sir? I have to tell you, I want to see. I would pay money. In fact, if anybody can produce this in a realistic way. I mean, I might pay you money for the... I want to see him and Gene Wilder on the

stage doing putting on the Ritz. I just say, putting on the Ritz! It is... It's John Fetterman. But the thing that I'm very surprised about, and Glenn, I'm curious to hear your thoughts as well, the two big kind of swing races where you had these kind of odd candidates, celebrity candidates, was Georgia and Pennsylvania. Dr. Oz, who obviously has no political background, particularly. Herschel Walker Football Star, had no particular political background either in Georgia, both were nominated by the Republicans in large part due to their name recognition and their bank accounts. And Oz looked dead in the water. He was running a terrible campaign. Republicans weren't buying it. But now he's in better shape than Hersher Walker. More importantly, he has the momentum.

He was behind in all the polls, you know, not that long ago. and now he's caught up or a point or two behind. So I think that is a big surprise that he's looking to be in many ways a safer bet than Walker in Georgia. Are you surprised to see that happen, Len? I am, but I wouldn't count Herschel Walker out. I think Herschel Walker is going to win. I don't know if you saw the debate, but I think he's going to win. I agree with you.

I think he's going to win. And the reason is we haven't had a wave election in, I think, like, eight years. 2020, it wasn't a wave election because Republicans picked up House seats. In 2018, it should have been in 2018, it wasn't a wave election. 2016, you know, Trump won, but it wasn't some kind of massive wave one way or another. 2014 was when all the races that were toss-ups broke for the Republicans and they had their biggest house majority since the 1920s. If you look at the real clear average of polls, which is kind of the most reliable one because it's a poll of polls, every single House race that they were looking at, that was that you know the last race changes where i think there were 20 of them every single one

went in the direction of the republicans now that didn't mean the republicans were favored in some cases the democratic lead went from 10 points to seven or 15 to 12 and they're still going to win point being if you have this kind of nationalization of an election and every race starts breaking in one direction we've seen it and you and i are old enough to see this in 94 we saw for the democrats in 2006 2008 if that's the case then all three of these kind of the races that are going to decide the Senate, specifically, Arizona, Georgia, and Pennsylvania, they're all going to break Republican. I want Hersher Walker and Federman are the two candidates I'm most excited about. And I agree. Well, did you, I read Hersher Walker's book this week. Did you know,

he played Russian roulette so many times. He's lost track account. Did you know that? I did know that. By his own words. Yeah, no, I know. He's not like that. He used to be a neighbor of mine. So I know him. He admits to his crazy, crazy life. And I think he has, I think he has it under control. I think he knows, you know, what caused it and, and, you know, what the effects are. Well, I mean, I think most people know what the effects of Russian roulette are. Yeah, no, I know.

And I think this is the kind of thing. I'm Russian, but, you know. I guess technically if I play roulette, it's Russian roulette. Yeah, I don't even play roulette roulette. Yeah, yeah. So you did a couple of polls on Twitter the other day. If Republicans take control of Congress next month, will Joe Biden govern more like Bill Clinton,

leading things more balanced, budget, and defensive marriage act, which he voted for, or will he stay the course? 90% said stay the course. 100% agree with that. Yeah, it's obviously not. very scientific poll because it's just my audience. But the thing, you know, Joe Biden as a senator, you know, in the 90s, he was this kind of quote unquote centrist Clinton Democrat voted for a

defensive marriage act. And now he's tweeting about how important it is for everyone to be able to marry who they want. I think the reason why I would agree that if the Republicans take the Congress as it looks quite likely if they will, that Biden is going to stay the courses, it seems pretty clear to pretty much everyone, including Democrats, that Biden is not really the leader. If you look at those massive spending bills, none of them were particularly Biden priorities. It's not like he was there like supposedly this blue collar Joe. These were all kind of lefty environmentalist things. That wasn't ever his issue.

So it seems quite clear that first of all, he's only in the White House do the powers that be in the Democratic Party, like a Warren Harding kind of situation, the men in the smoke-filled rooms. No one liked Biden. He was doing terribly in the primaries. Then phone calls came and the party's like, all right, he's our guy. stop Bernie Sanders. And there's been very little leadership from, like, Obamacare was Obama's decision. You know, Pelosi was the one kind of behind the mechanics of it, but it was clearly his big vision. Biden doesn't have vision at all. He can't even get up the steps. So, you know, I think that's actually correct that if the Republicans take over Congress, that he's, I don't

think it's just going to be stalemate, which is frankly my most preferred. method of governance in Washington. Well, yeah, I like it when they're not, I like it when they're not doing anything, but there's a lot of stuff that needs to be reversed or we can't have, we can't have nothing going on for two years. We need some things reversed. And they can do it if they stop the continuing resolutions and actually produce a budget. They do that?

Of those three races, which do you think is the most likely to switch to Republican between Georgia, Pennsylvania and Arizona? I think they're all going to. Yeah, but which is most likely. It's a tough one, right? It's a tough one. Georgia or Arizona. Yeah, right?

I think Arizona also, even though Blake is doing the worst of the three in the polling. Yeah, but Kerry's doing so well. Yeah. That's the thing. I think it's the other thing is the Pennsylvania governor is going to be a drag on Oz. He's doing significantly worse than us in the. polls. But Governor Camp in Georgia, his coattails, because he's beating the incumbent Stacey Abrams by a significant margin in all the polls, that might be enough to pull Herschel Walker over the finish

line as well. Only because, only because, Michael, they have suppressed the vote. I mean, yes, they set all kinds of records for early voting, but there's suppression there. What could it have been if they weren't suppressing the vote? America's worst vote suppresses. The thing that's great about why I'm so hopeful about the future of this country, before the internet, you would not be able to have instantly someone putting together a compilation of all the time Stacey Abrams claimed that the election in 2018 was stolen from her. And then when she opens the debate, you know, just lying and saying, oh, yeah, I've always, I never said this.

You could, you're not going to have to rely on the New York Times or CNN or even Fox to play the footage. You can just go, go on Twitter. Here's the compilation. Watch it for yourself. This is just put together her own words. And very clearly people see, okay, these people have no problem, not only lying, but lying about things that are very easily disprovable. You know, it's really weird. I hadn't thought of it that way, because I remember going, is anyone going to point this out? Yeah. I mean, I've done this for 40, you know, 45 years. Is anyone going to point this out? You don't have to. Now people are doing it. social media. And you're right. I mean, within an hour, somebody has done it. It's fantastic.

It's really, really great. And Carrie Lake's being very good with that. She's got something called the Carrie Lake War Room, and she just is nuking journalists left and right. Have you met her yet? Yeah, I've had her on my show. It was quite an edifying conversation. Yeah, I really, really like her. I think I just was with her a couple of weeks ago and said, after talking to her in person and really, you know, having just a good eye-to-eye conversation, I think this woman, if she does well in governing, if she is a Ron DeSantis-style governor, that woman could be the first U.S. president. I mean, she's remarkable, remarkable.

Or she could be another Liz Trust. Yeah. Jeez, that didn't go. well at all, did it? Yikes. It was going to bring Boris Johnson back now. Is that really what they're going to do? That's really what they're talking about doing.

I think it's, for those that don't know, we're talking to the British Prime Minister who stepped down at the 44 days or 45 days. I remember what it was. But it's kind of funny, like you guys are saying, they're thinking back and bringing Boris Johnson. It's kind of like when you have a band and they recast the lead singer and like, no, it likes him. It's like, you know what?

Let's bring back the old guy. Yeah. Who cares if there's problems with him. People like to me a little more. It's hilarious. So much. Thank you so much. Michael Malice.

you can find him in his in his podcast is great the best of the glenbeck program welcome to the glenbeck program michael malice is joining us now host of your welcome a podcast that is just great he is talking to us about the three biggest senate races in the country but i i also want to talk to him about some of the tweets he put out about the number of democrats in the house in the last 100 years years, there is, you know, there is a slim, but there is a possibility. This becomes historic. We'll talk to him about that. First, let's go to Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Arizona. Hello, Michael. Good morning. Are you as excited for election night as I am? I actually am because I know what we have planned, some of the things we have planned.

Oh, I don't mean us personally on the blaze. I just meant I think this is going to be really one of those epic election nights where a lot of very bad people are going to be. very upset. Oh, I hope. The delight of the audience. I hope. I hope. I feel weird predicting, but I'm gathering a sense of real optimism here if people go out and vote. Yeah, I also think what's, what I'm most looking forward to, and I would bet you agree, is that many Republicans have, and both Republican politicians and Republican voters, have been tried to, and, you know, be the recipients of a tactic they tried in 2016, which is you cannot vote for this person. This person is anathema, taboo, whatever word you want to use, and you do not have a right to choose this person as your candidate.

I was specifically thinking of Kerry Lake. It's probably been hit harder than any other candidate. She's running for governor in Arizona. She's ahead in most of the polls or one point behind and some of the others. The fact that Glenn Yonkin, who by most accounts seems to be kind of a milk toast generic Republican, went out of his way to campaign for her, especially when people like Mike Pence campaigned against her in the primary, is very, very telling because this is showing how the corporate media's attempts to define

who is acceptable and who is not acceptable, both for Republican primary voters and for the general electorate to vote for. That power is falling away rapidly, and that is to the great health, as they would put it, our democracy. It is. The fact that we are pulling away from, from our parties that we are questioning all politicians and we are waking up to the fact the media has been lying to us is that is a good sign of health for the republic and the fact

that Carrie Lake, you know, they have this, they have this thesis. If you talk, listen to pundits on, you know, most media networks and you read their articles. They had this thesis that Trump is basically like the head vampire, right? And once we get rid of Trump, everything is. is going to go back to normal. We all saw those movies. You kill the head vampire, while the other vampires vanish. And I've often said that Trump wasn't the river, he was the dam. You get rid of him, you're going to have this river of people that corporate media would not like. And Kerry Lake is, and Governor Santos, of course, are very much playing in the Trump handbook in the sense of taking the fight, not specifically to the Democrats, but to the

journalists who are carrying water and running interference for them. I'm sure you saw it earlier this week when they were yelling at her for being an election denier. And she just busted out the receipts of Stacey Abrams in 2018, Hillary Clinton and who knows how many others in 2016, calling Trump's election illegitimate and saying Governor Kemp in Georgia, his election was stolen. It's honestly, it's what so many of us have said the whole time. Stop being afraid. Stop giving in. Tell the truth. But it's also the inverse. As another, Arizona and John McCain learned, they're never going to like you or they're only going to like you in so far as you're doing their bidding. And the second you are in the way of their schemes, as

McCain found out in 2008, they will throw you under the bus so fast it would leave you skid marks from California to Maine. Yeah. So talk to me about Federman. Oh, my favorite candidate of this year. I send him money this week. Just because it's, be fun, right? Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, I don't, I'm not sure if they literally shaved the Chewbacca or they found Lurch and they kind of took him from Butler to being in the Senate. He needs a cello-promter to even hear the questions, which frankly in this day and age makes him presidential more than anything rather than being a senator. He should be running for Biden's seat in Delaware, to be honest, you know, because of the brain damage. And his wife, I don't know if you saw this,

Glenn. She was very upset at that reporter who was asking very benign germane questions about, look, you need a prompter to hear what I'm saying. Voters are concerned about your health. Is this a concern? How dare you question the health of a man who most recently had a stroke? Right. How dare you? How dare you? How dare you, sir? I have to tell you, I want to see. I would pay money. In fact, if anybody can produce this in a realistic way, I mean, I might pay you money for the... I want to see him and Gene Wilder on the stage doing Putting on the Ritz. I just think, putting on the Ritz!

It's John Fetterman. But the thing that I'm very surprised about, and Glenn, I'm curious to hear your thoughts as well, the two big kind of swing races where you had these kind of odd candidates, celebrity candidates, was Georgia and Pennsylvania. Dr. Oz, who obviously has no political background, particularly Herschel Walker football star, had no particular political background either in Georgia, both were nominated by the Republicans in large part due to their name recognition and their bank accounts. And Oz looked dead in the water.

He was running a terrible campaign. Republicans weren't buying it. But now he's in better shape than Hershey Walker. More importantly, he has the momentum. He was behind in all the polls, you know, not that long ago. And now he's caught up or a point or two behind. So I think that is a big surprise that he's looking to be in many ways a safer bet than Walker in Georgia. Are you surprised to see that happen, Glenn?

I am, but I wouldn't count Herschel Walker out. I think Herschel Walker is going to win. I don't know if you saw the debate, but I think he's going to win. I agree with you. I think he's going to win. And the reason is we haven't had a wave election in, I think, like eight years. 2020, it wasn't a wave election because Republicans picked up House seats. In 2018, it should have been, excuse me, in 2018, it wasn't a wave election.

2016, you know, Trump won, but it wasn't some kind of massive wave one way or another. 2014 was when all the races that were toss-ups broke for the Republicans, and they had their biggest house majority since the 1920s. If you look at the real clear average of polls, which is kind of the most reliable one, because it's a poll of polls, every single House race that they were looking at, that was, you know, the last race changes, I think there were 20 of them, every single one went in the direction of the Republicans. Now, that didn't mean the Republicans were favored.

In some cases, the Democratic lead went from 10 points to 7 or 15 to 12, and they're still going to win. Point being, if you have this kind of nationalization of an election and every race starts breaking in one direction, we've seen it. You and I are old enough to see this in 94. We saw for the Democrats in 2006, 2008. If that's the case, then all three of these kind of races that are going to decide the Senate, specifically Arizona, Georgia, and Pennsylvania, they're all going to break Republican.

I want Hersher Walker and Fetterman of the two candidates I'm most excited about. And I agree. Well, did you, I read Hersher Walker's book this week. Did you know he played Russian roulette so many times? He's lost track account. Did you know that? I did know that. By his own words.

Yeah, no, I don't know. He's not like that. He used to be a neighbor of mine. So I know him. He's, he is. admits to his crazy, crazy life. And I think he has, I think he has it under control. I think he knows, you know, what caused it and, and, you know, what the effects are.

Well, I mean, I think most people know what the effects of Russian roulette are. Yeah, no, I know. And I think this is the kind of thing, I'm Russian, but, you know, I guess technically, if I play roulette, it's Russian roulette. Yeah, I don't even play roulette roulette. So, yeah. Yeah. So you did a couple of polls on Twitter the other day. If Republicans take control of Congress next month, will Joe Biden govern more like Bill Clinton,

leading things more balanced budget and defensive marriage act, which he voted for, or will he stay the course? 90% said stay the course. 100% agree with that. Yeah, it's obviously not a very scientific poll because it's just my audience. But the thing, you know, Joe Biden as a senator, you know, in the 90s, he was this kind of, quote-unquote, centrist Clinton Democrat voted for a defensive marriage act. And now he's tweeting about how important it is for everyone to be able to marry who they want. I think the reason why I would agree that if the Republicans take the Congress as it looks quite likely if they will, that Biden is going to stay the courses, it seems pretty clear to pretty much everyone, including Democrats, that Biden is not really the leader.

If you look at those massive spending bills, none of them were particularly Biden priorities. It's not like he was there like, you know, supposedly this blue collar Joe. These were all kind of lefty environmentalist things. He's not, that he, that wasn't ever his issue. So it seems quite clear that first of all, he's only in the White House do the powers that be in the Democratic Party, like a Warren Harding kind of situation, the men in the smoke-filled rooms. No one liked Biden. He was doing terribly in the primaries. Then phone calls came and the party's like, all right, we got, he's our guy.

to stop Bernie Sanders. And there's been very little leadership from, like, Obamacare was Obama's decision. You know, Pelosi was the one kind of behind the mechanics of it, but it was clearly his big vision. Biden doesn't have vision at all. He can't even get up the steps. So, you know, I think that's actually correct that if the Republicans take over Congress, that he's, I don't think it's just going to be stalemate, which is frankly my most preferred. method of governance in Washington. Well, yeah, I like it when they're not, I like it when they're not doing anything, but there's a lot of stuff that needs to be reversed or we can't have, we can't have

nothing going on for two years. We need some things reversed. And they can do it if they stop the continuing resolutions and actually produce a budget. They do that? Of those, good. Of those three races, which do you think is the most likely to switch to Republican between Georgia, Pennsylvania and Arizona? I think they're all going to.

Yeah, but which is most likely. It's a tough one, right? It's a tough one. Georgia or Arizona. Yeah, right? I think Arizona also, even though Blake is doing the worst of the three in the polling. Yeah, but Kerry's doing so well. Yeah.

That's the thing. I think it's the other thing is the Pennsylvania governor is going to be a drag on Oz. He's doing significantly worse than us. in the polls. But Governor Camp in Georgia, his coattails, because he's beating the incumbent Stacey Abrams by a significant margin in all the polls, that might be enough to pull Herschel walker over the finish line as well. Only because, only because, Michael, they have suppressed the vote. I mean, yes, they set all kinds of records for early voting, but there's suppression there. What could it have been if they weren't suppressing the vote? America's worst vote.

The thing that's great about why I'm so hopeful about the future of this country, before the internet, you would not be able to have instantly someone putting together compilation of all the times Stacey Abrams claimed that the election in 2018 was stolen from her. And then when she opens the debate, you know, just lying and saying, oh, yeah, I've always, I never said this. You could, you're not going to have to rely on the New York Times or CNN or even Fox to play the footage. You can just go, go on Twitter. here's the compilation. Watch it for yourself. This is just put together her own words. And very clearly people see, okay, these people have no problem, not only lying, but lying about

things that are very easily disprovable. You know, it's really weird. I hadn't thought of it that way because I remember going, is anyone going to point this out? Yeah. I mean, I've done this for 40, you know, 45 years. Is anyone going to point this out? You don't have to. Now people are doing it in social media. And you're right. I mean, within an hour, somebody has done it. It's fantastic. It's really, really great. And Carrie Lake's being very good with that. She's got something called the Carrie Lake War Room, and she just is nuking journalists left and right. Have you met her yet? Yeah, I've had her on my show. It was quite an edifying conversation. Yeah, I really, really like her. I think I just was with her a couple of weeks ago and said, after talking to her in person

and really, you know, having just a good eye-to-eye conversation. I think this woman, if she does well in governing, if she is a Ron DeSantis-style governor, that woman could be the first U.S. president. I mean, she's remarkable, remarkable. Or she could be another list trust. Yeah. Jeez, that didn't go well at all, did it? Yikes.

They're going to bring Boris Johnson back now. Is that really what they're going to do? That's really what they're talking about doing. I think it's, for those that don't know, we're talking the British Prime Minister who stepped down at the 44 days or 45 days. I remember what it was. But it's kind of funny, like you guys are saying, they're thinking back and bringing Boris Johnson.

It's kind of like when you have a band and they recast the lead singer and like, no, it likes him. It's like, you know what? Let's bring back the old guy. Yeah. Who cares if there's problems with him. People like them. A little more.

It's hilarious to watch. Thank you so much. Michael Malice. You can find him. in his in his podcast is great.