The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program | Guests: Hunter Howard & Rio Giardinieri | 3/24/20

Episode Date: March 24, 2020

Coronavirus update: ALL countries now have cases, the military will build an emergency hospital in New York in seven days, and police in a California town have brought out the quarantine drones! Joe Biden is holding his own press briefings, but Joe and technology don’t go well together. And where are all these crazy death toll numbers coming from? President Trump suggested a return to normal in “weeks,” not months. Dallas resident Hunter Howard, who overcame the coronavirus, describes what it was like. Glenn hears from Rio Giardinieri, who went from near death to cured overnight after being administered the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the podcast. Have a great show for you today. Some interesting things about coronavirus. Who's handling it well? Is Andrew Cuomo really handling this well? Some people seem to think so. I don't really see it, to be honest with you. We also have two people who actually had or have coronavirus. One is still in the hospital.

And one has taken the drugs that have been showing some promise and that President Trump discussed at his press conference, the other day. Do we have a possible treatment here? We're hopeful and we talked to people who have actually experienced not only the illness, but also the potential treatment. And Phil Robertson joins us to tell us about his new show in the quarantine with Phil. He's been quarantining himself for a very long time. And he's completely not really even adjusting his life at this point. He'll get into that as well on today's program. Also encourage you to go over to Stu Does America on podcast app, click subscribe. It would make me happy, probably cures coronavirus, though that's not

exactly proven yet. So I appreciate you doing that. We've got a new show coming up tonight, looking at some of the comments from James Clyburn and how he wants to never let this crisis go to waste. It's coming up on Stu Does America as well, and here's the podcast. You're listening to. All right, so let's get our coronavirus update. All the numbers are from Johns Hopkins as of 5.30 a.m. Central time, total confirmed cases worldwide. 3992.3 thousand. That's up about 50,000 from yesterday. Total confirmed deaths worldwide are up 3,000 to 17,000. Total confirmed recovered is only up 3,000 itself. All 195 countries on earth have confirmed cases. The only place in the world you can go is hanging with the penguins

in Antarctica. No confirmed cases there. 5% of active cases worldwide are considered serious requiring hospitalization. That's steady 5%. Yesterday, it was at 5%, but it was down in February from 19%. I want to make a note here, 13% of the confirmed cases in America do currently require hospitalization, but that number is expected to drop toward the international average as more people are diagnosed through the testing. The U.S. now has 46,168 confirmed cases, and 500,000.

and 82 deaths. We are up almost 10,000 confirmed cases and about 130 deaths in the last 24 hours. The U.S. has 295 officially recovered against the 582 official deaths. So somehow or another, Joe Biden realized yesterday that it wasn't 1997 anymore and decided to get some of that high-speed internet into my recreation. room. That's a quote, in my recreation. He still has a rec room? I haven't seen one of those since the Brady Bunch went off the air. Anyway, he is making his teleconferencing in his rec room on this new high-speed

internet that the kids are all crazy about. So he made, he's going to make regular broadcast combating coronavirus. He made yesterdays from his home in Delaware, and it did not go well at all. Do we have a little clip of that? Here he is. The teleprompter broke down and he did not know what to do. I'm glad the president has finally activated the National Guard. Now we need the armed forces and the National Guard to help with hospital capacity, supplies, and logistics. We need to activate the Reserve Corps of doctors and nurses and beef up the number of responders dealing with these crush of cases. And in addition to that, In addition to that, we have to make sure that we are in a position that we are, well, let me go to the second thing.

I've spoken up in that. The president must use the defense production. Wow. Okay. So that was his press conference. Comforting. I wish he was in charge right now. But he says, you know, now we've got to use the military.

Well, yesterday, a thousand strong military unit arrived at the Javitt Center in New York City. Wow, yeah, but we need the military to start. start building hospitals. Well, that's exactly what they were doing, turning the Javits Convention Center into a thousand-bed emergency hospital. It'll be the first of four emergency hospitals in New York State. They should be open within seven days. Dozens of national card droops have arrived at the Jacob Javitt Center in Manhattan Monday morning.

President Trump approved Governor Cuomo's plans to set up the beds in the 1.3 million square foot convention center on Sunday night. FEMA will oversee the facility as well as the staff and stock the center. Is there no more free travel in the U.S.? Florida's governor, DeSantis is ordering all inbound travelers arriving from New York or New Jersey into a mandatory 14-day quarantine per an executive order that he signed yesterday. DeSantis said in an address that more than a hundred such flights arrive daily into the state,

he believes each contains at least one person infected with the new coronavirus. He said he's been in contact with federal officials about curtailing such flights, but he has not yet received a response. He said people will be screamed when they arrived and told they must self-quarantine. He said those travelers will not be allowed to stay with family or friends because that is the one way the virus is spread. He didn't say specifically how self-quarantine is going to be enforced. He said it may actually, I'm quoting, be a criminal offense if you violate the quarantine order.

Florida law says it's a second-degree misdemeanor to violate a quarantine order that could result in a 60-day jail sentence. Notice he didn't have a problem when all of the kids were on the beaches for spring break. That was an obscene scene at the time, and all the kids were like, oh, we're not going to get it. It's fine. They're all now testing positive. for it. New video from Spain shows the hospital triage. People are on the floor in the hallways, just waiting for a bed. Videos appear to show dozens of patients, some covered in sheets,

most wearing surgical masks, laying on the floor in hospital hallways as they await for some bed to somehow or another become available. It's one of the largest hospitals in Madrid. Spain had 385 deaths and more than 4,500 new cases diagnosed just yesterday. It has more than 850 infected persons for every one million citizens. That's the third highest in the world after Italy and Switzerland. But perhaps echoing Spain's rapidly outgrowing outbreak, the Big Easy now is being criticized for not shutting down Mardi Gras celebrations and parades and parties over the warnings of local and national health officials against those large gatherings,

which came as early as February 8th in the U.S. Louisiana governor John Bell Edwards says his state now has the fastest growing cases of COVID-19 in the world. Citing statistics from a University of Louisiana-Lafiet study, Edward said the growth rate of the state is headed for a steep upward trajectory similar to what Spain and Italy have experienced. He said Louisiana has the third highest number of cases per capita, in the U.S. behind New York and Washington, respectively, but the rate of growth per capita exceeds any single hot spot in the world. You know, if it was going to break out,

I mean, you would think Vegas or New Orleans. I mean, there's something in the water down in New Orleans. Edwards announced a stay-at-home ban for his state that will come into effect on Monday at 5 p.m., excluding citizens leaving home for essential. services, there's no word on whether the state's 1,200 drive-through margarita stands are exempt from the order. But I think anything that limits alcohol at this time is not a good thing.

Nobel Prize winner, doom and gloom forecasts are likely overdone. This one comes from Dr. Michael Levitt, who is credited for correctly calling early that China would get the worst of its devastating outbreak long before many other health experts predicted they would. On January 31st, China had 46 new deaths compared with 42 the day before, which Leavitt recognized as a slowing of the rate of growth. This suggests the rate of increase in the number of deaths will slow down even more over the next week.

Levitt won the 2013 Nobel Prize in Chemistry. Yeah, but they give those away like candy now. And he ultimately nailed the call. Listen to this. I mean, you want a prediction that comes right. in mid-February he said there would be a mid-February peak with a total tally of 80,000 cases and 3,250 deaths. As of March 16th, China had counted a total of 80,298 deaths so close without going over. and he said there would be 3,250, there are 3,245 deaths.

The 80,000 was almost 1.4 billion. Yeah, 80,000 was the total cases, right? You said deaths. It was 80,000 cases. Yeah, no, yeah, sorry, 80,000 cases. He said there would be 80,000. They had 80,000 298, and he said there'd be 325 on deaths. There's 3245.

I mean, that guy, can we talk to him? I mean, I would like to... Yeah, that's incredible. Talk to him. And he's optimistic too, which is pretty rare these days from the experts. Yeah, and maybe this is a guy we should listen to. Maybe this is just a guy that we should listen to. Now, we said we would never go for it here in America, but we are.

What was the thing that you thought was just so disturbing that they did stew in China? Well, they were... Besides welding people in. Yeah, welding people into apartments came to mind right away. There was something they were doing that we all said we'd never put up with this. The massive surveillance state that they constructed around pretty much everyone there to the point where they were... I mean, they were giving reporters QR codes to have to scan to every building they were going into so that they could be tracked. They were being tracked by drones.

they were being surveilled in every part of their internet access. As I mentioned, the million people or so they threw in a camp, which is a totally unrelated incident, but also problematic. So the Chula Vista Police Department in California recently doubled its fleet of drones, purchasing two of the machines from a Chinese company called DJI. The police department told the financial. times that they would be outfitted with night vision cameras. We have not traditionally mounted speakers to our drones, but if we need to cover a large area

to get an announcement out, and if there's a crowd somewhere that we need to disperse, we could do it without getting police officers involved. The outbreak has changed my view of expanding the program. I think we need to expand it as rapidly as I can, said the captain. U.S. officials have warned about the threat of Chinese-made drones. drones that they could pose a threat to the United States. The company that the police department is purchasing from, DJI, is the world's largest player in the civilian drone industry.

But DJI is based in Canada. Spencer Gore, the chief executive of the U.S.-based drone company, Impossible Aerospace, said he is working like crazy to help equip other law enforcement agencies with drones. We just can't keep up with the orders from law enforcement agencies and health departments. so how do we feel about that one? How are we feeling about drones and our police department using drones? Suboptimal would be the first thing that came to mind.

Not the optimal. Sub that optimal. That is, I mean, I guess like you could make the argument in a case of, you know, where everyone's supposed to stay away from each other to break up a crowd if it floats over with a speaker, it's maybe not that bad. I mean, I know they've done that in,

in crowd breakup situations before, but it sends a pretty creepy message. And not in love with it. Not in love with it. Yeah. Yeah. Remember, Stu, we were at CNN and we said that there were drones being used

on the southern border or the northern border. I can't remember which one it was. I think it was on the northern border. And they were being used for drug trade up on the northern border. And people went ballistic. They went crazy. And it was on the border looking for drug people. We don't do that.

We don't do that. We don't use drones. I remember just shaking my head thinking, oh, we will. And soon you won't have a problem with it. And here we are. Here we are. This is going to change everything. Tomorrow night, we're going to show you the things that are hidden from you, the plans that are being made, the plans that are being drawn, and the things, for instance,

They are trying to pass in this new stimulus bill. It's terrifying. And the power is never coming back to you. We have to stay vigilant if we are to keep America and keep the country that we all know and love. That's tomorrow night at 9 p.m. Eastern time. You don't want to miss it. It's our Wednesday night special. It's a special on the government being.

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Pat, I don't know if you've seen the very, very, very, the very, very talented and riveting Joe Biden in his latest video from home. But I'd like to play it here. Here's Joe Biden in his little podcast room in his home. I'm glad the president has finally activated the National Guard. Now we need the armed forces and the National Guard to help with hospital capacity, supplies, and logistics. We need to activate the Reserve Corps of Doctors and. nurses and beef up the number of responders dealing with these crush of cases and uh and in addition

of that uh in addition to that we have to make sure that we uh we are in a position that we are well let me let me go to the second thing okay yeah go to the second thing the president must use the he's spoken of us i mean he is out of it so bad he's out of it i mean why would you let him do this Why? Just claim it's live. Just tape it. Tape it 50 times until you get one that's okay and then air it. Does he not have one single advisor with common sense?

Seriously. That's so bad. It's like negligence. Something happens with the prompter and he just cannot continue. And he's like, and do, time for medicine, mommy? I don't.

I tend to think that the advisor. that he has around him are absolutely smart enough to be telling him. This has got to be recorded. Let's do it recorded. And I think he's fighting it off. No, no, come on now. I've been doing this for 40 years. It must be that.

I think that's what it is. Because it's too common. You know, like we saw the advisor with him walking through the crowd when he was getting in that argument. She obviously was like, you've got to get out of this. This is a terrible moment. Everyone's seeing this on camera. And Joe's like, shh.

Like, he's, he thinks he still has it. And he's trying. trying to hold onto it. And all of his advisors, I think, probably no. But they can't stop him. Yeah. It's ugly. Okay.

So wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. What do you think that maybe his advisor is Andrew Cuomo? Just saying. Andrew Cuomo, why?

I'm convinced that Andrew Cuomo is, wants to be the president. I got the right Cuomo right? Yes. Not the TV Cuomo. Sorry, not Frado. You're talking about the governor of New York. Yeah, I'm talking about the governor. I think he, I think that's everybody's going to say, look, he's completely out of control.

And Cuomo's going to come through this because he's already wearing the tight fitting, you know, governor t-shirt. Like, I'm in the war room right now. Look at me. I'm doing all these things. I was just out building some houses for the homeless and decided to come in here and do this, too. I mean, he's, I think he's horrible. But he's better than Joe Biden. And I keep thinking, this is the guy who's going to come in at the end.

That's an interesting one. Because I think, objectively, the only reason people think Cuomo is doing a good job is because he's doing a better job than de Blasio, who's a complete disaster. But, I mean, this is there. He's in the middle of overseeing the biggest disaster of this entire crisis. Yeah. And he was the one saying, we're not going to shut it down. That's crazy. not going to happen. And two days later, shut it down.

I don't see why anyone thinks he's doing a competent job here. Yeah, he told his... Because he can, because he can blame the president. Although he's not doing that. No, he's been praising. He's actually praising the president, which is, I don't know, the whole thing's really weird. Because he made a big deal out of the fact that he was talking to his business buddy. And his business buddy was all freaked out that the rumor was he was going to shut down New York. Oh, no, we're not going to do that. And then they did it.

Wait. You just bragged about the fact you're not going to do it. Now you've done it. And your numbers have increased in about a week and a half from around 1,000 to 23,000. About half the cases in the country. Yeah. It's bad. It's really bad in New York.

It's bad. You know, let me ask you this. Have you guys seen go to, shoot, where was that? Here it is. Go to the website. Do you have your iPad with you or anything? I don't, Pat. Go to COVID act now.org.

COVID act now.org. This is why your state must act now. And it's giving you a prediction or not a prediction. It's a model, a predictive model, to see the projections for your state on when your health care system is going to be overwhelmed. And if you go to New York, let me just go to New York, you click on that, you will see that with limited action, hospitals are expected to peak at about April 12th. And we are just barely there.

I mean, it's almost a straight line up from April 1st until the 12th, just overwhelming the hospital. But they have, are they doing social distancing? and they just closed everybody in, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, they want you full shutdown basically, yeah. Right. So they peak at around April 20th. Now, here's the interesting part.

Go to Texas. If you go to Texas where we're at, and really nothing seems to be happening here, you are peaking two weeks later, April 28th. But if you look down at the number of dead with no action in just Texas, they say estimated deaths, 583,000. Three months of social distancing, 430,000.

Three months of shelter in place, 5,000. Now, where are they getting these numbers? Three months of social distancing, 430,000. Where else are we seeing that kind of death? Yeah, and where? Because you could say we're early on in this process. Obviously, we've seen places like Italy that have blown up, but not like this. you've seen, but like, not like that.

We see like, for example, you could project New York turning into a real mega disaster right now, although those numbers seem completely ridiculous to me. But the other thing is we've seen Washington have a real, the early big blow up and then not turn into a mega disaster, right? It seems to have recovered a little bit. Now, they did, it was sort of cordoned off

in that one nursing home at the beginning, so maybe that was, that's the way out of it. But this is what I find it so interesting about this and why the only reason I have any hope that this could potentially have some sort of like logical resolution is that

it's unlike a global warming where they say if we don't act now, everything's going to go terrible and every year that goes by where it's not terrible, they just say it's more years down the road. It's 10 years from now. It's always 10 years from now. This is like two weeks, three weeks. Yeah. So like

We'll know really soon. Yeah, we can. Well, you should know. What's the date today? The date today is March 24th. March 24th. Okay. So in three days in New York, they took no action.

In three days, the hospitals should be overloaded. In three months of social distancing, the hospitals should be overloaded by April 3rd. So, you know, they didn't do the three months of. shelter in place. So it's got to be by April 7th, which is what next Tuesday, Wednesday? And if that growth is as extreme as they say, over the next few weeks, we're going to have multiple examples of completely out of control situations. If we don't have that, then we have to realize that somewhere in their projections,

it's just not right. And, you know, that is going to, I think, change the way that we handle this. Yeah, we have 786 people in Texas with the virus right now. 786. Look at this. No action in the state of New York. This is New York City where everyone's living on top of each other. No action, estimated death, $392,000. Three months of social distancing, 292.

Now, go back to Texas. Let's look at Texas. Three months of social distancing is first. 430,000 deaths. No action. 583. That's not possible. It's just not possible. That makes no sense whatsoever. And the CDC's estimates of doing nothing, the high-end number they came up with was 2.2 million debt. So this is way more than this. We're talking about two states. We're already at a million. Right. I mean, if you added up all these states, it would be much, much higher than what the CDC believed was possible. and I believe the London University that has been, you know, giving out a lot of the scarier sort of models, you know, I don't know. It doesn't seem, I don't know. Pat, do you feel that? I don't. I go back and forth on this a lot. Admittedly. But like it's, I know, I never get to this situation. But you listen to some of these experts and they're like so confident. And you, you could tell the difference between an Al Gore and these guys. These guys are saying like, look, in two weeks, we're going to wish we completely.

shut off society. Al Gore is like, in 40 years, how can you can't even judge those things? Well, I'll be cannibal. Correct. In 38 years. And then 38 years pass. Well, that's because of some of the actions I took.

It's going to be another 6th years. And they just keep pushing it back. Exactly. But this is like, you can't do it. It's too immediate. We're going to be, you know, Gavin Newsom said in eight weeks, 26 million people just in California are going to have this. There's no way that's going to happen.

If that happens, we're going to be happy to shut down society, right? Yes. You're not going to have an argument from the American people. This is why I think the president said yesterday, it's not going to be months. It's not going to be months. I don't think he bought these projections from the beginning. I really don't. I don't either.

I think, but he was surrounded by a bunch of people who are experts. You know, he's just thinking he's the doctor. himself. No, nope. I don't think he bought into this at all. And, but all of the experts said, Mr. President, and now he's seeing, well, wait a minute, he's seeing numbers like this and going, well, hang on just a second. Where else are we seeing this? I mean, Mexico, what's happening to Mexico? Mexico, they're still, they're, they're practically having a lick your face marathon in in Mexico right now. And, and it's not overrunning in Mexico. Now, it may come. yet. But I think this is why the president said yesterday it's not going to be months. He's betting on

his gut. It's not going to be months. But we'll reevaluate. Maybe it is. And he's looking to next week. And if these numbers in New York and California aren't starting to pile up as they were predicted, I think he's going to start taking the economy and opening it up because I have news for you. As a guy who's in the target range, Pat, you're in the target range. You know, in Italy, they're saying, saying if you're 60, don't even bother coming into the hospital. We can't save you. We're too overrun. Well, I got news for you.

If it is my children have an America left and I have to go in and work with a bunch of 60-year-olds just to keep this economy going and we're working while they're sheltered in place, I'll do it. I mean, I'd rather die than have the nation die for my children. Absolutely. And I think the one unacceptable variable in all of this to Americans is if Netflix slows down their streaming speeds. If that happens, all bets are off. They're already saying it. All bets are off. They're already saying.

Wait, wait, don't panic. Let's watch those numbers. When we see those speeds start to come down, then we'll let you know. Guys, projections are already saying they're going to go to standard definition. This is the best of the Glenn Beck Pro. program. Hey, it's Glenn. And if you like what you hear on the program, you should check out Pat Gray Unleashed. His podcast is available wherever you download your favorite podcast. Hi, it's Glenn. If you're a subscriber to the podcast, can you do us favor and rate us on iTunes? If you're not a subscriber, become one today and listen on your own time. You can subscribe on iTunes. Thanks. Hunter Howard tested positive for coronavirus. He was, he's a 50-year-old man. He's a Guy lives in Dallas. He came home from Aspen early in the month, and he got a low-grade fever, turned into a dry cough, led to headaches, all of the signs, and he was diagnosed with coronavirus.

We go to Hunter now. Hi, Hunter. How are you? I'm doing great cleanse. Feeling much better. Thank you very much. I'm glad to hear it. So you're a relatively healthy guy.

You were out skiing and you don't have any real underlying. health problems, right? That's exactly right. I didn't have any pulmonary issues. I don't have any immune suppression issues. So I had about five days of, you know, it was a very, very bad flu. But it was, you know, it kept me down. And if I didn't know what the symptoms were to be looking for them to understand

kind of with destruction to my lungs and the difficulty breathing, you know, I would have thought it was the flu. But, you know, because of the timing of it, I realized with the difficulty breathing, that there was something a lot different going on. The really the scariest part with the unknown, though, unknown of how much worse it might get. At the end of the day, it wasn't that bad. But as my breathing got worse,

as a doctor said, stay away from the hospital unless you need ICU breathing support, then we'll help you. And so then just, you know, just trying to think through, okay, when is that mark going to happen? We're going to need some more support from here, from an ICU ventilator. And did they give you,

did they give you any indication on, yeah, here's when you need that breathing apparatus, or did they just trust that you would know? I don't think they knew, to be honest with you. You know, I think that they just knew that they didn't have the ventilators or the beds to kind of support people coming in, and that I was really, you know, supposed to know on when I needed that. And so really zero guidelines to what that point might be. And so, you know, at one point I woke up and I was just hurt my lungs working.

Like it was like my lungs were paper bags, just crackling and bubbling as they were just. There's a lot of effort to breed. But then I, frankly, for me, I was told them the doctors take 600 milligrams of Tylenol, you know, not ibuprofen. And I took, like I said, 2,000 around. So I took that and to cut the fever. And I've been really doing better every day since then. So that was about, that was last Saturday. And it's been kind of uphill or a downhill.

So how long did you have it? First, take me through the, what's the first? sign and when did you go holy crap I might have coronavirus you know it's about three or four days I'm not sure exactly when I caught in Aspen but I think it was a breeding ground in Aspen that weekend unfortunately and so it was about three or four days before I started the low-grade fever and the headaches and then that was then day five was kind of really intensifying the fever got really bad the fever got bad the the body aches got really bad and I knew something else was going on that's what I

got really the restricted breathing. There's like a strap around my chest. It was just making it difficult to breathe. And so that was about three or four days of the intense difficulties. And then the fever cut. And so I feel very lucky, though, everything's done reading. I'm in healthcare world. And so I have a telemedicine company.

And so I had access to physician and people to help me out to help. But even then, you know, they didn't know either. We're learning day by day on this. So you're a telemedicine guy. Exactly. And so we've been providing a lot of support to people to understand this. Yeah, this is, I don't think most people understand. When, you know, I've been saying recently to talk about redesigning the entire health care system now is like saying we've got to redesign the entire horse and buggy industry in 1920. It's over.

And just telemedicine and the way things are going to change, it's going to relieve so much. and this is really the time where telemedicine can really show off, and you could accelerate that quickly because it's so good. You're exactly right about that. There's a couple of pain points that we saw a couple of years ago about just getting access to the right type of specialist. 88% of the country is medically underserved for basic care, let alone access to specialists.

So that's what we've been focusing on. And then I'd like to give a lot of credit to CMS and the administration right now. They have lowered a lot of the restrictions around telemedicine over the past couple of weeks. where they had very strict guidelines on state-by-state regulations, state licenses, certain things you can and can't do. And they said, in the short term, we're going to drop all of those, and we're going to allow people to get access to the care that they need during this process, and we're not going to worry about regulations that might have been burdensome.

So a lot of credit goes to the administration, CMS, and really kind of our federal people who are kind of just dropping those to make sure people get in the care that they need. It's been amazing how quickly they're moving. We're talking to Hunter Howard. He's a Dallas resident with confirmed COVID-19. So when you were diagnosed, did you go to the hospital or how did they diagnose you? Yeah, so I was lucky to understand how the system works a little bit. And when I started learning about my symptoms, there was nothing set up in town.

In fact, Dallas at that point, only had 42 testing units per day to give out. And they told me, we're only going to give you one of these testing units. if you are needing ventilator support in an ICU right now. That was on Thursday or Friday and then over the weekend, Baylor Scott & & Wine it set up a

hospital system. It set up a mobile unit in Dallas and so by then they had more testing units that were coming into town so I was able to get access to those units and get referred. So I was referred by my physician into that system. It was really about 20 minutes and just

nurses out there. I want to give my absolute hats off to our first line of the nurses and healthcare responders who are putting themselves in harm's way. So they were, and just really, it was about 15, 20 minutes to go through there. It was a inch long swab that they kind of stuck into my nasal cavity, which it felt like they're trying to swap. Wow. To be honest with you, it was, and it was what needed to be done. And I found that a day later by my doctor, and then I got a call by Dallas County Health and got a caseworker assigned to me. And it's really amazed at how quickly our community stepped up to be organized around this.

So if you had to do it all over again, what should we fix? What was lacking? The most important thing is lacking right now is just kind of access to the beds, the ventilators, the masks, and things like that. So I was on a call last night with Dallas business leaders. And what we're talking about is moving from a population mitigation strategy to a case-based intervention strategy. What I mean by that is, in the short term, as we're learning about the incredible curve of how many people are getting sick so rapidly and how easy, how contagious this is, we're having to employ population mitigation strategies. They're really, you know, very, very severe, but that's a necessary strategy just to control the community transmission, you know, transmissions. But what we're trying to do, we're talking about, okay, is instead of it being everything being guided by the, the health care,

who are just looking at the number of cases that are being transmitted and just looking at those numbers. What can we do in Dallas to make sure that we're caring for every man, woman, and child? And so that's really kind of a shift from once you get a control of the transmissions in the community, instead of only having a population mitigation strategy, but what do we have to do to build more hospital beds? What do we have to do to get more ventilators in town? What do we have to do to get more tests in town? And so we're actually a pretty amazing group of kind of business leaders,

in Dallas coming together saying, what do we need to do? Do you need, you know, figuring out how can we, you know, transition from this population mitigation business leaders that we're going to give them whatever they need. So, Hunter, were you a believer in this was as bad as they say it was when you went up to Vail? No, I'll be honest with you. I'm going for a friend's 50th birthday. And at that point, there's a little bit of information that was coming out about it, but it was still, you know, really mostly was happening over in Italy and China at that point.

And I, you know, and I had a kid, a mask that had an LED lighting on it. And I gave a video with my friends of me in the airplane with a LED lit mask. And we're kind of making a joke out of it at that point. And we knew it was serious. We do things happening other places. But it didn't... Not you. Well, I had the case, I had the mask, but it was, we didn't realize how serious it was going to get this quickly.

Yeah, that's what I meant. You didn't think it would happen to you. Yeah, exactly. Are you convinced that we are going to see these astronomical numbers that the CDC is talking about now? So that really comes into the population mitigation strategies. And in certain cities, it's out there. We're working on two-week trailing indicators, right, with the testing. And so what we're seeing today with the numbers or what happened probably got 10 days ago.

So the numbers are growing up. And more importantly right now is, you know, what are the, you know, how is the chloroquine working? So I have friends in the New York City health care system. And from what I am hearing, anecdotally, it is working miraculously well. So we have a guy coming on in 10 minutes, and he says, I mean, he said goodbye to his family, everything the doctors gave him the hydrochloroquine. And he said two days later, he's fully back. And he credits that.

But the press and everyone, no one is willing to say that this is even a possibility at this point. And I don't understand why. This is an old drug, you know, as long as it's under supervision and, you know, we're doing it in the right way with doctor's supervision. I don't understand why more people in the press aren't excited about the possibility of this drug. Glenn, I'm hearing from the healthcare workers in New York City to, you know, from the ER that it's working. It's absolutely working right now. And so it's still a little bit anecdotal versus evidence. base. We don't have a lot of the data around it, but it's working is what I'm hearing from

frontline health care providers that are in the eye store right now. We should be making that stuff day and night. We should be making that stuff day and night. All right. Thank you so much, Hunter. I'm glad that you're feeling better and thanks for your service to the community. Appreciate it.