The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program | Guests: Joe Bastardi & James Kitchen | 2/22/21

Episode Date: February 22, 2021

WeatherBELL chief forecaster Joe Bastardi joins to discuss how the Left has weaponized climate change to dictate policy. Attorney James Kitchen brings the latest on the Canadian pastor who was impriso...ned for breaking lockdown rules. Some Coca-Cola employees were given a training asking them to be less white. Dr. Karlyn Borysenko, who exposed the training, joins to discuss how widespread it actually is, as Coke tries to explain away its decision. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:20 and their Be Less White Training program last week. Carlin Borosenko, she's going to be with us. Also, we have the attorney that is representing the Christian pastor who has been arrested and put in a maximum security prison. No bail. He's waiting for his trial because he violated the COVID restrictions. Pretty amazing story. Also, more on the weather and global climate change.
Starting point is 00:00:52 John Kerry says we only have nine years to stop it. Now even less because he said that the other day. So it's crazy. All the news you need to know with perspective on today's podcast. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. He has come out on Friday and said the record cold temperatures we're seeing global warming. I don't know how that works. But the guy who flies on private jets and has a mega yacht and several mansions, but he's different than all of us.
Starting point is 00:01:37 He says it is growing too late. We now only have, write this down on your calendar, Stu. Now we have John Kerry giving us nine years. So we have an official new clock, a new countdown, nine years to fix this. Okay. We got that down. No problem. We got it.
Starting point is 00:01:59 We only have nine years to fix it. And that's why it needs to be a cram down. Now, some would say that no. No, I don't think I'm going to buy that. Some would say, no, I don't think the cold weather is because of global climate change, because Texas has had this kind of cold weather before. It happens from time to time, you know, but maybe it's just me. But the world is waiting for America, even though reports now come out that, you know, about 230 miles east of Moscow,
Starting point is 00:02:43 there is a, there's a pack of dogs that have been discovered that their fur is bright blue. Now, it could be that they've been hanging out around the chemical plant, but Moscow doesn't know. They have no idea. It may be an entirely new species of dog
Starting point is 00:03:04 that is bright blue. But remember, Remember, America is the crap hole that is holding the rest of the world back. Joe Bastardi is with us, and he is the chief forecaster at Weather Bell, and also the author of The Weaponization of Weather in the phony climate war. Boy, oh, boy, oh, boy. Guess what he's going to say. Hi, Joe.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Hi, who would it ever thought? Hi, Stu. Hi, Glenn. Hi, Pat. Hi, everybody. You let in with John Kerry. And I'm like, oh, man, you're just like waving a red flag. Who would ever thought that John Kerry could be an advertisement for my book?
Starting point is 00:03:50 Right. The whole book just counters that kind of, there's actually a chapter on that, the weaponization of the global temperature. And, you know, I just, I'm watching these statements. and I can't believe it. Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe. We only have nine years now. And I know we had 10 years about 15 years ago,
Starting point is 00:04:15 but this time we now have nine years to solve this thing. Otherwise, we're doomed. We're doomed. And you saw what happened in Texas, right? Yeah, you better believe I saw what happened in Texas since we were, my company was way out in front of it. You know, we have major clon. in Texas construction companies.
Starting point is 00:04:37 And on February 10th, you know, as publicly as I could, and as many people I could contact, you know, my dad used to say, if you have to tell someone you're good at something, you can't be that good at it. Right. But, you know, not everybody follows me or whatever. On February 10th, we said category, the winter equivalent of a Category 5 hurricane, most five-day extreme winter weather event in Texas. history, and I actually put the maps of 1899 on that infamous outbreak in 1899.
Starting point is 00:05:12 By the way, I'd like to question Senator Kerry. How did that happen? 1899 with that outbreak, and then the 1900 Galveston Hurricane, you can't get more extreme than those type of swings that were going on back then. And the only thing I could say is that it must have been the horses that were adding whatever they were at. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the methane. So wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:05:36 If I'm not mistaken, didn't you call the state officials and say, hey, guys, prepare. Here it comes. Well, what happened was, you know, I have contacts. And one of the contacts is Sean Hannity who forwarded my book. And, you know, I was mailing Sean and everybody way in advance. And Sean called Governor Cruz or Senator Cruz and Governor Abbott. And Friday night, I got a call from Senator Cruz, and we talked for about a half hour, and then we talked with Governor Abbott.
Starting point is 00:06:12 And then the staffs of Senator Cruz's staff Saturday morning to really try to get them ahead. But by that time, it was sort of too late as far as what the state could do. You needed a response starting four or five days away. I actually tweeted that, Glenn, that this was the main. And this was the middle of, it was on Wednesday, I tweeted that there should be a federal response the same way as preparation for a hurricane goes, a winter type response, getting that equipment in there, understanding that we were going to have the kind of freeze-ups we were going to have. And, you know, Saturday morning I was digging into the Texas newspapers, and I realized that
Starting point is 00:06:55 they really didn't get it. They were saying, oh, it's going to be cold, but we've had these kind of things before. This was completely, it was 1899. It was different from 83. 83 was a little bit colder in many places, but not as much snow in 83, the 83 outbreak. Now, I know all this stuff because I have no life except the good Lord above, my family, and the weather. So I go in and dig into all these maps. My father's a meteorologist.
Starting point is 00:07:26 He taught me the foundation I stand on today was built yesterday to reach for tomorrow. tomorrow. So if I know yesterday, if I see maps from yesterday, say, wait a minute, that's showing up again. Guess what's going to happen? And the interesting thing about this is I do this because I love it. This is what God made me to do. So I'm going to do it as hard as it can. And the second thing is it benefits my company. Because what happens is everybody is just looking at the computer models and consensus and there's so many great forecasters out there. But if you can add something more, something different, and help people out with that, you add value to the product, and then you see what happened.
Starting point is 00:08:10 All right. So one of the things that you added, you said the three previous big freezes predicted this one. Is that just from the maps, the computer models and the... Well, yeah, there's certain things that go on. There's certain signs that go on. For instance, a week before the freeze, I have a couple of who are not going to say their names, they're meteorologists in Little Rock, Arkansas, on Saturday night after I got out of church, we had a big map discussion.
Starting point is 00:08:38 They called me up and we were talking about this. This is a week before. And here's what they were confronted with. They said, Joe, we're reading what you're saying. You're referencing 83. You're referencing 1899. None of the computer models are predicting those numbers. You know, they were all 50 and a low of 35 and things like that.
Starting point is 00:08:55 And so we went over the whole thing, and there's a certain type of way that Texas gets really cold. You need the ridge of high, the Arctic ridge of high pressure, run from Montana down to Midland. And what happens is it's high pressure that actually causes Texas to get brutally cold. You get the buildup of low-level cold, dense air in the northern plains, and it oozes southward. There are these small pulses that come in. And one of the biggest things that was going on, folks, was that, The run-up to this, the Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday period, the computer-generated numbers were busting horribly one day away. They were predicting a higher-fifteen or be 40, higher 40, it would be 28.
Starting point is 00:09:39 And what happens is if you're, let's say you're automating your load estimates, if you're an energy company, and you're saying, well, we're going to use this computer model says it's going to be 50. Well, guess what's going to happen if you're in Dallas is there's going to be day after? day after day a buildup of error, and then what happens when the real cold, the strong... So how can our models be this wrong, and yet they say they can predict what's coming, you know, in nine years? They can't. They're tools, and I talk about that in my book. You know, I think people should get the, you know, and I know it sounds like I'm shamelessly
Starting point is 00:10:17 plugging the book, but it's almost as if the book was written for what's going on now. I didn't know Joe Biden was going to be president when I wrote that book, right? And yet I wrote it because I felt there was something to say and alert people to about the weaponization of this situation. No, the models of tools to use. See, they're not the answers. They're ways to get answers. They're outstanding ways to get answers. But you've got to know, based on what happened in the past in comparisons, how to use them and when to use them.
Starting point is 00:10:51 And it's a matter of waiting. It's a matter of what we call attribution. And that's the problem with the climate. The guys on the climate side of the issue. I see what they're saying. A lot of good people on that side of the issue. They've done great research. I read their stuff all the time.
Starting point is 00:11:06 I want to know what they know, not what I know. I can't increase what I know unless I hear from someone else. So what happens is they look at one thing and put all their eggs in one basket. When you have all these models, all these what we call animals, analogs of the past, the physical drivers of the atmosphere at that time, you have to decide as a human being, as a forecaster, try to do a service for your client or whoever, how to weight them. Is this stronger than this one? How do you blend them together? And that takes a lot of dirty work. You know, there's a saying that everybody has a will to win, but the will to prepare to win is
Starting point is 00:11:48 what counts. And it's preparation. It's no different. I used to wrestle with Penn State. It's no different than what we were taught on the wrestling mat, except we do it with the weather in my company where it's just constant, constant looking at things. So, anyway, I hope that doesn't sound too pop. No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. Thank you, because I know your record. It doesn't.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Joe Bastardi, his book is called The Weaponization of Weather in the Phony Climate War. probably a really good book to bone up on because we are entering a new battle and a new era and it is this one is powerful this one they say it is going to be done and we will be in a green new deal the weaponization of weather in the phony climate war joe best you so much joe you're listening to the best of the glenbeck program James kitchen now joins us he is a lawyer with john Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms, something that is relatively new. It's about 10 years old, and it's a voice for freedom in the courtrooms of Canada. He is here to talk to us about Pastor James Coates,
Starting point is 00:13:11 who is now, is he still in maximum security? He is. Yeah, he's in the remand center in Emerson. And who goes to that prison usually? Well, people who are awaiting their trial, right, which is, which is what he's doing right now currently. That's why we refer to what is a remand center. So, you know, I think there's a wide mix. Certainly his cellmate was coming off of some sort of drug. I think it may have been meth for the first day or two. He was in the cell with coats.
Starting point is 00:13:45 So I can imagine there's a wide range of guys in there. And was he in solitary confinement for a while? Well, I don't know if I'd quite call it that. quite call it that. I mean, what was going on is that he wasn't allowed to have any visitors, so he couldn't see his wife. He was only let out for 40 minutes a day, and he wasn't allowed to have any, you know, normal social interaction with anybody except, of course, of So-mate. The reason for that is, is, of course,
Starting point is 00:14:10 that the 14-day COVID, you know, isolation restrictions prisoners coming in. So that's not, like, normally in the prison, you are able to receive some visitors and you have some, you have some time out with, in a common area with some other prisoners. He's not getting that because of the COVID restrictions, not because of any other reason. So, I mean, totally, you can find it probably isn't quite the word, but it certainly, it's certainly taxing. Don't we get those 40 minutes out, and I'll be able to have any visitors?
Starting point is 00:14:37 So what is happening? Why was he arrested? Tell us the story. Sure. So his church is probably one of the few that not only believe they should all meet together at the same time on a morning, but I'm going to, I've got to, going to do it even when the government says not to because, you know, they, first of all, I mean, they don't believe in the science behind it. They don't think it's a justified
Starting point is 00:15:03 violation of their rights because they don't think they're signed of the evidence to back it up. But, you know, it's also a violation of the religious beliefs, right? Because if they follow scripture and scripture says we are all to meet and meet in person not over Zoom so that we can, you know, pray together, sing together, do baptism together, have the Lord's separate together, et cetera. So his church meets at its full normal capacity, and he's the head pastor. He presides over that service most Sundays. So because he was at that capacity and not at 15%, which is what it's supposed to be here in Alberta, he did that for several months, and eventually he was arrested and released on a Sunday after a service.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Given an undertaking by the police, he refused to sign that undertaking. So he refused to agree with it. There was no real undertaking. However, the next Sunday, he held church again, and the police asked him to turn himself in, and when he did, they charged him with breaching that undertaking. And that led immediately to a bail hearing. Now, they also charged him with breaching public health measures, but that was kind of, that was kind of the key charge there, because that's the only one that's criminal. And so that led to a bail hearing. At the bail hearing, he was released, but he was released with a condition.
Starting point is 00:16:15 And the condition was that he stopped breaching the public health orders, which he couldn't do, of course, because that would mean now church would have to be at 15%. So because he wouldn't agree to the condition, he had to be held in jail. Now, are they doing this to business people? Well, they haven't money to business people in jail. You know, I have a lot of experience with this now board. I can tell you there's a lot of tickets. There's a lot of attempts by the local health authority to close down the businesses.
Starting point is 00:16:44 There's been some court applications and some court orders, but they haven't actually arrested and tried to throw any business owners in jail. jail yet. So you would think that business owners don't have the standing that a church would have. I mean, I'm trying to remember what your bill of rights is called up in Canada. It's not as strong as ours, but ours is worthless right now. But you have protection for speech and for religion, right? We do, yes. It's called the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and it's the portion of our Constitution where civil liberties are protected. And Section 2A protects freedom of religion and 2B protects freedom of expression, as you said.
Starting point is 00:17:29 2C protects freedom of peaceful assembly, which is, of course, also being exercised on the Sunday morning by this church. Yes, we, similarly to you, we have these protections. They're not worth much unless the court has a will to enforce them, unless the government has any sort of will to respect them. They're not worth much, unfortunately. So that's the situation we face. And yes, the pastor would have more rights at a business owner. So why was he singled out, do you think? That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:18:01 I, hmm, you know, he's been doing this for a long time. It's been three months that he has been, you know, just saying, look, I serve Jesus, not the government, and my church is going to continue to do church as we see as best for our people. It's the most loving thing that we can do for our people. And has it actually been here? Has there been extreme breakouts among his flock? There hasn't been any. There hasn't been any.
Starting point is 00:18:27 I can only say that perhaps the government is, after three months of him doing this, has kind of just, you know, they said enough enough. We got to do something about this. But wait, there hasn't been any outbreak of COVID in his congregation. And while he was being arrested, aren't the numbers going dramatically in the opposite direction? I mean, shouldn't they be easing up on these restrictions because the numbers were going way down, were they not? Well, that's the elephant in the room. Are the restrictions about politics or are they about safety and health and medicine and science and facts, right?
Starting point is 00:19:06 So, I mean, you know, this is a church of 400 members. They've had no outbreak of COVID. Nobody has died of COVID. But they have had somebody died to the lockdown measures. They have somebody die prematurely because he couldn't get his cancer treatment. So, yeah, no, this isn't, you know, this isn't ultimately, in my opinion about science, facts, medicine, evidence, safety. Somebody's politics, right? So, because if we did, if we did actually just care about trying to keep people safe or public health or what have you,
Starting point is 00:19:37 then if you had a church that was open full on for three months and had no outbreaks and no issues, you'd leave them alone. Yeah. Because obviously it's working. Obviously, the government is wrong about the restrictions. restrictions on churches, obviously it's working, and obviously they're fine, and maybe we should actually go worry about the nursing homes where the problem really is. That would be a reasonable approach, but that's how politics works. So if it's politics, do you have faith that the court is not tangled in politics?
Starting point is 00:20:04 Here in America, it is? Well, I mean, where is it not, right? I mean, of course my faith is not solid. I certainly hope and look to the courts for them to think independently for them to fulfill their role to be an effective check on government power, an effective balance on that
Starting point is 00:20:31 to be a sober second thought and to not merely accept everything the government says but to actually critically analyze whether or not it's true. I would hope for that. But so far in Canada, I've seen very few instances of that happening. Most of what I've seen is the court's simply rubber-stamping government measures. It's terrifying. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:20:53 So what can people do to help? Well, first of all, the church, I assume, was going again yesterday. He was still in prison. They had another pastor, and was he arrested or fined? He wasn't. Interestingly enough, for only the second time in three months, the public health inspectors did not show up. and the local law enforcement were in the area, but didn't even enter the parking lot. That was interesting and surprising.
Starting point is 00:21:22 The church was certainly prepared for the hammer to come down. And so it's hard to know what they're thinking, but it says volumes that nobody showed up. The church had a large number of people there. In fact, they had to turn people away, just to be in accordance with their normal 100% fire code for actual safety, they had to turn some people away who kind of stood around outside and listened to an outdoor speaker to the service because they didn't want to leave. They were so happy to be there. So it was interesting.
Starting point is 00:21:55 So what can people do to help? Well, you know, I think the most important thing people can do is to stop self-censoring. Now, obviously, some people agree with this. They agree with the lockdowns. But for the growing number of people who don't, it's important on an individual level that each one of them stand up and be counted and speak out and and if they if they agree disagree with it to say so right and and and to take some action peaceful action of course but but but but but actually say no this is wrong and i'm going to do something about it i'm going to let my politicians know and i'm going to
Starting point is 00:22:27 start talking to people i know and we're going to start you know uh living life and and and and not believe in this stuff anymore and we're going to say so that's the biggest thing right it's we got a lot of people who disagree with it quietly they don't say anything and then there's just a few people like Pastor James Coates, and then the government tries to single them out and take them out. But if all the people who disagreed and opposed it stood up and said, we're done with this, we're tired of being governed and policed in this way, we're tired of our rights being taken away, then this thing would start to crumble. Well, I will tell you, that would be the easiest thing.
Starting point is 00:22:58 I know that Pastor Coates' wife said over the weekend that don't stand by the 15% capacity limit. She said, you know, even though my husband is in prison for, it, the best thing you can do is open your churches and stand up because they can't arrest all of us. That's right. I mean, she's not wrong. That's just how it works, right? It's still a democracy that we live in, right? It's obviously it's starting to fall apart, but we're not, it's not a totalitarian dystopian
Starting point is 00:23:31 nightmare yet. We're on our way there, but it's not there yet. There's still, it could still be turned around if enough people said, no, we don't want it to go there. so we're not we're not going to let it go there we're not going to put up with this right yeah she's she's right thank you so much i really appreciate it uh james kitchen uh lawyer for the justice center for constitutional freedoms we'll follow this story of pastor james coates and please keep us updated thank you so much you're welcome thank you this is the best of the glenbeck program this is the glenbeck program
Starting point is 00:24:08 The organizational psychologist who helps companies become better, she has now committed herself to combating the influence of critical race theory in America. Her name is Dr. Carlin Borosanko, good friend of the program. Hi, Carlin. How are you? I'm doing well, Glenn. Thanks for having me back. So you made some headlines over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:24:35 you are the one who wrote the first post about Coca-Cola. Tell me how this happened and what happened. Yeah, so on Friday, well, let me back up one day. On Thursday, Coca-Cola sent out an email to its employees about this diversity training program that they were implementing in which they said a specific course of programming was required. Now, the very next day, I got an email from a whistleblower at the company who has, had been talking with their team members, and all of them were incredibly uncomfortable about this specific training that told them to try to be less white.
Starting point is 00:25:15 And so one of them was very brave, and he has watched my videos on YouTube and reached out to me and provided me evidence of the training, and I posted it on Twitter. Frankly, not really expecting it to get the reception that it did, because I feel like I've been screaming about these training programs for the better part of a year. But thankfully, a lot of people took notice, and it's really really. gotten a lot of attention. Now, Coca-Cola has done some really disturbing things. They are all in on the Great Reset and the ESGs, which people need to watch for. ESG environmental, social, and governmental standards. So the social part is like critical race. It is social justice. The environmental
Starting point is 00:25:57 piece is the Green New Deal. And these companies are resetting. And Coca-Cola, has been on the forefront of it. If you look into Coca-Cola's online presence and what they say, their bottling company in Europe actually justifies, says, in order for us to justify our business license, we do X, Y, and Z. And when did we have to start justifying a business license? I mean, you have to be within the parameters,
Starting point is 00:26:33 but now you have to do social work, you have to do training on critical race theory, et cetera, et cetera, to, quote, justify your business license. They're just ahead of the rest of these corporations, I think. Well, maybe, but I actually think that the questions at play here are much bigger than Coca-Cola. You know, a lot of people have been calling for a boycott of Coca-Cola since the news broke. And, well, I think that's all fine, well and good. The reality is that this training exists on LinkedIn, learning. And what that means is that there are probably thousands of other companies out there
Starting point is 00:27:08 that are having employees do this very same training. And we already know that there are, there are employees from some of the biggest companies in the world that are actually taking this training as we speak. So for my money, I think that the story about Coke is interesting, just because it's a really large company, but the, the, the amount of companies that are already doing this and the amount of money that Robin DiAngelo is making convincing white people that they are racist is the real story here. So tell me what she was teaching. Coca-Cola came out and said, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:27:41 That stuff on LinkedIn, that wasn't the focus of the training. That's how they tried to deny it and say that, no, no, we weren't doing any of that. What were they doing? Well, I also think it's worth noting that you're quoting Coca-Cola's first statement that was procured by the Blaze, but they actually came out with a lot. the second statement a couple hours later, which says, oh, no, no, we weren't having our employees do this specific training at all. So they went from confirmation to denial within a couple hours. But, I mean, this is very typical Robin DiAngelo training. It's teaching white people that they
Starting point is 00:28:19 are every negative, every negative thing in the book. And what it's actually doing is Robin DeAngelo's biggest grievances are, frankly, with people who are presenting a self-empowerment that she feels uncomfortable with. It's when people, you know, aren't afraid to express themselves, aren't afraid to stand up for what they believe in. It's a very specific type of communication style that she seems to have the most grievances with, and she's labeling that as all white people,
Starting point is 00:28:45 which, of course, is not the case at all. And in fact, I'll tell you this, the whistleblower that reached out to me is not white in any way, shape, or form, and they were still uncomfortable with the specific training. So there are so many people that I know. I have friends in so many different businesses in big companies from, you know, from financial houses to lawyers to architects to show people. And they are, they're all saying they're going through these trainings.
Starting point is 00:29:19 And I've asked them, so what are you doing about it? We just shut up. I said that that's possibly the worst thing you can do. And they're like, I don't want to lose my job, Glenn. And I honestly don't know who's on my side. I know a couple of people that we kind of look at each other during the meetings, but I don't know who's shutting their mouth and who feels like this is the right thing to do. And I'll lose my job.
Starting point is 00:29:45 What should people do? Yeah. I mean, it is a sticky situation to be in because even if you ask questions about these trainings, you are at very real risk of losing your job. But I'll tell you this. What I'm trying to do right now is actually I'm working on getting critical race theory banned in state agencies and in state contractors at a state level in New Hampshire. There is actually a bill right now.
Starting point is 00:30:07 I just testified for it last week in the New Hampshire House of Representatives called HB 544, which would ban state money being spent on this type of training. And I actually know from the whistleblowers at Coke that when President Trump issued his executive order that banned this at a federal level, Coke actually put the pause on it. for a minute. And they brought it back after Biden rescinded the executive order on his first day. So I think the very best thing people can do right now is reach out to your state representatives, try to get this banned on a state level in state agencies and in state government contractors, and that'll go a long way. I think we also need some sort of a lawyer action group
Starting point is 00:30:48 that can give people advice or represent people. I mean, I can't believe that if you, object to a you have to be less white. I can't believe that you're going to lose in a court of law. Well, it's funny because I don't know if you've been following the story of Jody Shaw, who was
Starting point is 00:31:08 a whistleblower at Smith College, but she just resigned over last week in reference to this same type of thing happening at Smith College, and she filed complaints with their HR offices. And what she was told was civil rights laws aren't written to protect people who look like,
Starting point is 00:31:24 you. Wow. I'd love to see that tested in court because if that's true, we're done as a nation. Yeah. You mentioned that the person who reached out to you was not white with the Coca-Cola thing. I think it's fascinating. And that like how important in the turnaround of this nonsense is it for people who are not white to step up and say, this is wrong? because that's got to be a crucial part of the momentum to turn this around. Because it's all white people talking about, right, exactly. Martin Luther King had a lot of white pastors and a lot of people. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's critical to the operation because how this is usually framed is that the reason
Starting point is 00:32:11 the white people speak up is that they're scared or they're fragile or any of these things. And that's simply not the case. So I think that everyone who is, this should not be a black or white or brown issue. This should didn't even be a Democrat versus Republican. issue, quite frankly, if you are opposed to racism, you should be opposed to things like this. And I have to tell you some of the feedback I've received from Black people has been, well, Carlin, we were told to be less Black in the workplace for years. And that's very valid, but that's also wrong and racist.
Starting point is 00:32:40 That shouldn't be happening either. And if you're against that type of racism, then you should be against this as well. So tell me, see, the problem with critical race theory to me and this anti-racist thing is it's objective is to employ reverse racism. The only way to cure it is to punish those of another race and to have this reverse racism, which is an incredible goal to have. So they admit that that's what they're trying to do. Correct or not correct? Yeah, that's exactly correct. Yeah. The goal of critical race theory is that racism exists everywhere and it says that white people put these systems in place in order to maintain power and the only way to get rid of racism is to, you know, bring the white
Starting point is 00:33:32 people down a level, essentially. So how do you argue with somebody who says, well, how can you disagree that white people wrote the rules and this country was, you know, founded by a bunch of white people? Well, I would say, yeah, it was founded by a bunch of white people, but this country has been all about progress and creating a more perfect union. I mean, the founders of this country were not perfect men, but they were good men, and they were trying to do the right thing. And even when Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence, it was very obvious that he was uncomfortable with slavery and was trying to build mechanisms in to get slavery, you know, to be outlawed in the future. And so I think that, you know, we are not a perfect country, but we get
Starting point is 00:34:13 better and better and better all the time. And these policies are simply regressing us back to a place that was even before the civil rights movement in this country. It makes absolutely no sense. And I just don't think the people continuing them have thought about what the end goal is. They don't take into consideration that when Robin DiAngelo says all white people are racist, well, guess what? She means you too. And she means the CEOs of all these companies.
Starting point is 00:34:38 And if the goal is to destroy white privilege, well, that means all of your institutions are going to get torn down in the process. And so what does that really leave us with? I don't think that leaves us much to build on. There are very real and valid questions about race in this country, but this is not the way to fix it. I can't believe you ever, you were ever thinking that you were, you know, liberal or a progressive. I can't believe it. To hear you quote Thomas Jefferson and our founders, I'm just so happy and proud to be your friend.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Proud to be your friend. Well, thank you, Glenn. And I have to tell you, it's been a little over a year since I went to that Trump rally. I do consider myself a liberal. But I think that I consider myself a liberal in the way that, you know, I'm a pre-thinker. I like a, yeah, classical liberal, if you will. I'm a classic liberal. I refuse to modify it with that term, though, because I think that the word liberal gets a bad rap.
Starting point is 00:35:36 And I want to take it back. Yeah, good for you. Good for you. Carlin, thank you so much. Carlin Borosenko.

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