The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Joe Tacopina & Ryan Walters | 4/5/23

Episode Date: April 5, 2023

Former President Donald Trump’s indictment was unsealed, criminally vague, and underwhelming. Are Democrats trying to put Trump in jail for paying too much in taxes? Donald Trump’s attorney Joe Ta...copina breaks down Trump’s 34-count indictment and exposes the political hit job at the heart of the criminal charges. Oklahoma Superintendent of Public Instruction Ryan Walters joins Glenn to discuss the rule that would keep pornographic material out of schools but was struck down due to “overstepping." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What did you get from today's podcast? I mean, besides, the best Trump coverage of all. Oh, yeah, I mean, his actual attorney. Yeah, his, and then Alan Dershowitz. Yeah, I mean, it was great. You'll understand this case six ways to Sunday. Also, I feel like you have a stance on whether kids should be served up porn in schools. And I think...
Starting point is 00:00:21 You caught that from today show? Yeah, I think... My take on your commentary was that you're on the fence. You're not sure whether it's a good thing or a... bad thing and you're considering all options but all options who knows which way you could land but right there making a decision kind of a uh a call to action yeah uh because uh something that happened in a red state that'll blow you blow your mind unfortunately it'll blow your mind it shouldn't if you think you're safe in a red state you're absolutely not and you got to start standing for
Starting point is 00:00:54 the people who are standing up for our children because the teachers union is doing it with money. And these money-grubbing Republicans take it and they sell your child down the river. I'm sorry. Do I sound too opinionated? You're wrong. I can't tell which way you're going on it. Today's podcast, you don't want to miss a second of it. Brought to you by Jace Medical. Recently, we shot down the Chinese spy balloon. It mean a lot of things. But what it really means is our relationship with China isn't getting cozier. Today I'll give you the news of what China did yesterday to devalue our dollar yet again. Things are not good, and we rely on China for critical antibiotics.
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Starting point is 00:02:33 Make sure you enter the promo code at checkout and you'll get a discount on the order. Here's a podcast. You're listening to the best of the blend. Trump's campaign fundraising is breaking records thanks to a lavish fundraiser hosted by Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg and the Democratic Party. This according to the Babylon B. sources say that as Trump arrived at the New York courthouse for a fundraiser yesterday morning, his campaign raised millions of dollars from energized citizens eager to support
Starting point is 00:03:16 the only presidential candidate indicted by a Soros-funded DA. Quote, at this point, if someone hasn't been indicted by a corrupt Soros DA, can you even trust that person? Said local Trump voter. Experts say Trump's indictment will firm up his base of supporters who believe the country is run by corrupt, out-of-touch bureaucrats, who also happen to be satanic pedophiles, and alienate him with kooky conspiracy theorists who think that America's leaders can be trusted.
Starting point is 00:03:47 At publishing time, it had been revealed that half of the donations to the Trump campaign came from Democratic activists who are desperately hoping he runs again. You know, we are defined now by our enemies. This is a time where where it is a badge of honor, oh, the school board hates you. Oh, the school librarian thinks that you're a Nazi.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Oh, boy. Congratulations. Congratulations. Oh, the New York D.A. hates you. You've, by pointing that out, you've been called an anti-Semite. Congratulations. Yeah. Congratulations, sincerely.
Starting point is 00:04:25 There's something to that. I mean, I know Babylon B is a satire site, but like, you kind of like, if a Soros-funded DA came out and said, you know what? We looked at Ron DeSantis and totally clean, clean as a whistle. Go ahead and feel confident voting for him. I'd be very nervous. I'd be very nervous. Very, I'd be like, what's up with that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:44 He's in bed. All right. Let me tell you what happened yesterday, and I'm going to use it by substituting Stu for Donald Trump. Here's what happened yesterday in court. In the attempt to cover up a crime, Stu committed a crime. In the attempt of covering up a crime, Stu committed a crime. In the attempt to cover up a crime, Stu committed a crime.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Now, also, I'd like to say that in the attempt to cover up a crime, Stu committed a crime. But I'm not done. In the attempt to cover up a crime, Stu committed a crime. Wait, but what crime was I trying to cover? Great question, Stu. Thank you. I wasn't even done. I have 35 of those charges.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Oh, yeah. And they're all very different. Let me just skip to 28. In the attempt to cover up a crime, Stu committed a crime. Wait, what crime, though? Yeah, okay, that's exactly what I would expect somebody who hates George Soros to say. Hey, that's what happened yesterday. Yeah, he didn't even tell us what the crime was.
Starting point is 00:05:52 What is the crime? What is the crime? He only told us what crime he supposedly committed when he was covering up the crime that he would not tell us what it was. Correct. Which is amazing. We would like to define the crime, please. Could you define the crime? Now, some people say it's a campaign finance crime.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Well, is it because the FEC turned it down? The feds turned it down. Even the corrupt justice department turned this down. But you picked it up, and that's a federal crime, unless somehow or another, in Alvin Bragg's head, well, states, you got to go to the Constitution for this one. So I know this definitely did not have. States are in charge of the vote and the election. so states should be the one. Really?
Starting point is 00:06:40 It's still a federal crime, though. Still a federal crime. So that would not make any sense. They know they have nothing on that. Well, it's a tax crime. The tax crime is my favorite. Yeah, tax crime. How is it a tax crime?
Starting point is 00:06:51 Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I've heard you should pay your fair share. And I've even heard it's patriotic to pay your fair share. And we've heard for years and years that Donald Trump will not pay his fair share. He will not pay his taxes, this guy. So this is apparently the tax. crime. He paid more taxes by paying Cohen all of the, the quote, bribe, which wasn't bribe,
Starting point is 00:07:21 he paid that as income back to him. So he actually paid more taxes than he should have. This guy that they've been begging for him to release his tax records for the entire time he's been in the public eye, just so they could prove that he does not pay his taxes, have now tried to put him in prison for paying too much taxes. That is legitimately what happened yesterday. Yeah, but it was those, it was the payment of those extra taxes that was the attempt to cover up the crime. Yeah, that's what they're trying to say. And if you don't know this, this, this, what happened in the situation, Cohen paid $130,000 to good old Stormy. And then the, I mean, who hasn't? Who has it? Sincerely. Look, she's expensive, apparently. And so.
Starting point is 00:08:04 then to reimburse Cohen, instead of giving him $130,000, which would have been in a reimbursement for an expenditure, but would have had to been, you know, their accusation is it would have had to been, you know, recorded in a certain way that may give away that they paid off a Barnstar. So instead, what they did is they paid him a salary of, I think it was, around $400,000. And the thought there was, you give him basically double the money. so he can pay taxes and still maintain the amount he gave to Stormy Daniels. So they didn't want to give him the exact amount. They gave him more than that.
Starting point is 00:08:42 And they gave him a bonus on top of that, I think, of $60,000 just for, I guess, good tidings. So that's basically what they're saying is that because he was actually not giving him a payment for work done, instead they were just repaying him for the expenditure that they shouldn't have overpaid him because that man, too many dollars went to taxes. That is legitimately what they are trying to get him on. Too many dollars. Too much in taxes. I mean, this is, I didn't think there would be anything here.
Starting point is 00:09:18 We said it before. Right. But we said over and over again, we haven't actually seen the indictment. We haven't seen the charges and we hold out, you know, maybe they have something that we have to see. Well, they do. In the attempt to cover up a crime,
Starting point is 00:09:32 Trump committed a crime. But no, he didn't. Right. Like, and not to mention, even if he did, it's past the statute of limitations. Let me explain it more clearly for you. In the attempt to cover up a crime, which we don't know about, he paid too many taxes. Okay? Now how do you feel America?
Starting point is 00:09:56 Now how do you feel? Now, for those of you who might think, well, this is a Soros DA. And are we going to? to be able to get justice. I just want you to know the judicial system is fair and honorable and honest. Let me tell you a little bit about the judge. Now, you might have heard Donald Trump say, well, this judge is against me? And you're like, okay. What? He didn't vote for you. Is that how he's against you? No. No? Uh-uh. According to the FEC, you know, the people, the Federal Elections Commission, the ones who decided not to prosecute Donald Trump because they didn't find a crime,
Starting point is 00:10:38 the judge donated three times to Act Blue in the summer of 2020. Now, if you don't know what Act Blue is, congratulations, you're not part of the alliance for the Dark Lords and the Sith's. Okay. Act Blue is the funder or the mechanism. that all of the lundered money goes through, you know, for progressive things. So he has donated three times to Act Blue in the summer of 2020, once on July 26, when the judge's donation, according to the FEC, was earmarked for President Joe Biden's 2020 presidential campaign.
Starting point is 00:11:23 The other two contributions were pledged to the Progressive Turnout Project. This is a left-wing pack that rallies voter turnout. out for Democratic candidates and stop Republicans. Now, that doesn't sound partisan at all. So he's funding, quote, stop Republicans, which their whole thing is dedicated, quote, to resisting Trump and the Republican Party. But it doesn't stop there. No.
Starting point is 00:11:58 No, his daughter, Lauren, previously worked for Kamala Harris. Now, she was part of the failed 2020 presidential campaign, so I don't know if we say she's just a partisan hack or just stupid. I mean, who worked on that campaign? She is now the president of a consulting company that proudly lists the Biden-Harris campaign as its client. It's just... Oh my gosh. You can't make it up.
Starting point is 00:12:32 You can't make this up. You can't make this up. So she went to SUNY, the college, the crazy liberal, cloward in Piven College in New York. She has now deleted her LinkedIn page, which listed her pronouns, confirmed she graduated from SUNY in 2011. And the account also showed in 2019. she worked as the director of digital persuasion for Kamala Harris for the people. Digital persuasion.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Wow. What a euphemism. That sounds like propaganda or brainwashing. Currently, she serves as president of authentic campaigns, a consulting digital advert. Now, you go from digital persuasion to authentic. campaigns. Oh, yeah, there's no, there's no psychosis there. There's no split personality there unless they're doing exactly the same thing. This is an online fundraising agency that's raised $250 million for progressive campaigns. Could I just ask, do we have any things like this
Starting point is 00:13:49 that I've never heard of? You know, I've never heard of authentic campaigns before. And they've raised $250 million. Do we have anything like that? Do we have like, you know, John Adams for sticking it up their butt? Do we have that packed or anything that's raising? Dot com, yes. Dot com.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Okay. For sticking it up their butt. Dot com. They raised 250. A video of Smiling Harris is being greeted by a crowd of supporters is the auto play on the site's landing page. Also, Biden Harris campaign logo is at the top of its client roster. Authentics campaigns have won a collection of accolades mostly for its work on the Harris campaign,
Starting point is 00:14:32 while Lauren was awarded the coveted 2020 Rising Star title, considered one of the most prestigious honors in the campaign world. Whoa. The president of authentic campaigns is Lauren Merchant. Wow. That's the daughter of the judge. In a pair of truth social posts, Trump said, yeah, he's a highly partisan judge that hates him. I don't think that goes far enough, Don.
Starting point is 00:15:04 I don't think that goes far enough. This is clearly a partisan political move and the judge is bought and paid for. I don't know how you don't get at least him to recuse himself. or a change of venue, but I don't think you will. Now, here's the extra super special part. Alvin, you know him. One of the chipmunks also now running the New York DA. Alvin, I'm just thinking, there's a parody song in there someplace
Starting point is 00:15:43 with all the crime going on and somebody just going, Alvin! Anyway, Alvin is, you know, is making sure that all this is on the up and up. And so the next time the court will meet on this subject is January of 24. Now, they're telling him early because, you know, the Iowa caucus is happening in January of 24. If this isn't so obvious of what's going on, they clearly want Donald Trump to be the candidate. They clearly want him to be the candidate.
Starting point is 00:16:26 They also clearly don't want him to be the candidate. This is why I always say, you know, don't play these little games. Don't, don't, don't play these little games. Just do the next right thing. Because the last time they played this little game, and they were like, we'll outsmart them. We'll show America how stupid he is. we'll put Trump and wall-to-wall coverage.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Didn't work out as you thought it would. I have a feeling this might not work out the way you think it will either. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening. Let me tell you, last hour in the podcast, I gave you this guy's credentials.
Starting point is 00:17:15 He is just to save time, one of the most respected high-stakes trial attorneys in America. Joe Tocopina, and he joins us now. Joe, thank you so much for coming on.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Thanks, Glenn. I'll tell you off the bat. I don't think I wouldn't be able to help you. I heard you say, maybe I can help you figure out this.
Starting point is 00:17:35 I can't help you at all. I really, I can't figure it out for the life of myself. Okay, so is this a, when he was charged with, what, 34, 35 felonies,
Starting point is 00:17:44 it's the same charge. I said to the audience this morning, it's like if I said about my, my producer, that in attempt to cover up a crime, Stu committed a crime and saying that 35 times and never defining what the crime was. Boy, that's a pretty great assessment of this charging instrument. I will tell you that.
Starting point is 00:18:06 I mean, never saying what the crime was. So, you know, look, there's no legal requirement to do that. They charge, you know, this is a misdemeanor false fine business records, which Glenn is he didn't, it's not even close to have happening. There's no false sign business records. But even if you want to go down that road, it's a misdemeanor. the statute of limitations are long gone on that. You would have to then cobble that together with another crime,
Starting point is 00:18:27 which would also be a misdemeanor, to make it a felony. So, in other words, to aid in the bed or conceal another crime. And, of course, doesn't listen to what the other crime was. Maybe it's drunk driving or something, who knows. But most likely, it's violation of federal election laws, because this was a federal election laws, and apparently that office doesn't. It's very clear that this is not something that falls under a violation of the federal election commission's laws. It's just not. And that's why they never brought charges against them.
Starting point is 00:18:59 You know, that's why they, I mean, this is a personal expenditure, a personal civil, so Bill Clinton paid Paula Jones $800,000 for an alleged sexual assault, not like a consensual relationship. That was the same thing, but never was that was he, you know, charged with crime. Hillary Clinton apparently, you know, spent $100 plus thousand dollars on the steel dossier, right? That campaign, you know, used campaign money to that. Classify that. This is going to be as ironic as anything. Legal expenses, which obviously it wasn't. But so what does the FBC do? She doesn't get indicted like Donald Trump does. She paid a fine of $100,000.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Really, the double standards are so, the fact that we hear is running for president again, this happens to be the leading Republican senator. And because he's Donald J. Trump, that's the only reason. Okay. So let me just tick off a couple of quick questions here and see if you can help me answer. with campaign finance. The FEC turned past this down, said there was nothing there. So is it possible that, you know, they're checking the Constitution and Bragg is like, wait a minute, we're the ones that actually run the elections, the state owns it.
Starting point is 00:20:26 And so he's coming up with some state campaign violation? Yeah, it's not a state campaign. But even if he did, identify it. Say what you're talking about because we have no way. We should be left guessing at this point. And here's the bottom line. Regardless of whatever the, you know, twisted legal theory is, there is no crime. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:49 You know, Donald Trump actually did everything right here. Here's someone who came to him to extort money from him, okay, for a consensual relationship she claims, or go over the later. She said she never had an affair with him in Donald Trump out of him, leave the nash it. But then said, I need that money or I go to the press. Okay, that's extortion one-on-one. Then he pays that money with personal funds to resolve it. And by the way, he only did that after his lawyer,
Starting point is 00:21:13 the convicted fraud, certain liar, Michael Cohen, resolved this without President Trump's knowledge at first. He took out a loan, a home-executive loan to finance this civil settlement for it. He's the one who signed the settlement agreement. Donald Trump didn't even sign this agreement, Stormy Daniels. And then later did it. And that's just to appease and get closer to Donald Trump. He wanted to be in the White House in the worst way.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Okay, so let me go to the crime then that they say, the other thing they're throwing around is this a tax crime. And what they're claiming is, if I understand, you haven't heard that one yet? I've heard about it. Go ahead. Let me hear what they're saying that Donald Trump, I think, overpaid his taxes because he paid attorney's fees to Cohen. and that included the whatever it was, $130,000 or whatever that payoff was. Paid him in a retainer instead of paying him a reimbursement for that. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:17 So he actually paid, you know, payroll taxes or, you know, paid the, you know, the taxes that you would pay if you're, you know, if you're paying an employee. So, Glenn, I know how smart you are. I'm a big fan of yours. Do you understand how much you stuttered during that? Oh, no, there's no way to make sense of it. I'm just trying to give, I'm just trying to understand what they're saying. Right, exactly. It's hard.
Starting point is 00:22:41 I know, I know, I know it's so hard to even articulate it because it's like, what? Here's, let me just say this. He never made a tax filing with those documents that they claim are false because he never took a tax deduction. So, again, we live in our, seriously, we talk about selective prosecution. If they go actually allege, he, he, a lot of people in this country get charged with crimes for overpaying their taxes. Yeah. I mean, another legal theory. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Very novel. I mean, it's just, it just gets better and better and better. It's really. Okay. But, you know, it's a joke. So this would be a joke if I thought we could get fair trials. But I'm not sure you can get a fair trial in New York. He has been, Donald Trump is the worst.
Starting point is 00:23:31 He went from the king of New York to the worst, you know, worse than Hitler and Mangala combined to New Yorkers. in New York City. Plus, you have a judge that should have recused himself. I mean, the actual information on the judge and his daughter is staggering. Can he be, can you get a change of venue or at least a new judge? Look, here's the thing. We are going to be making ferocious to get this ridiculous case thrown out of court. It doesn't belong in court.
Starting point is 00:24:10 We are going to obviously consider whatever legal motions, including recuse, will change a venue if they're appropriate. You know, look. Isn't it appropriate? Don't you think the recusal of the judge? I mean, that's a conflict of interest. It's crazy. You would think.
Starting point is 00:24:26 And these facts came out, you know, yesterday. Apparently his daughter works for the vice president. But again, yeah. Again, we have to be very methodical in our attacks here. We don't want to do anything with a knee-jerk reaction. We don't want to make emotional decisions. and we'll do all the research and everything we need to do. We have obviously several months to make these motions,
Starting point is 00:24:49 and we're going to take our time and do them right because you have one bite at this apple, and there is no scenario where, you know, we're going to miss anything. And any angle that we can take that, that legitimizes our legal attacks on this case, that I know it's going to be successful because I don't think this case is ever going to see a jury, Glenn.
Starting point is 00:25:06 I really don't. It shouldn't see a jury, you know, but that we would need to have intellectually honest, judges to make sure that that happens and hopeful that we're going to have one here. I talked to Annie McCarthy yesterday, former prosecutor, and he said you always know it's a weak case when you start to repeat the same charges and you just keep stacking them on. He said that's the first thing that you were taught in law school. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:25:34 That's crazy. Have you ever seen the same charge 34, 35 times? Is this unprecedented or not? I'm impressive, but it is a sign. I agree with Andy. It's a sign of weakness. I mean, there's been several indictments where they stack up charges. I mean, it's one act.
Starting point is 00:25:53 It's one, one, you know, factual scenario that they're alleging is a crime that is not a crime. I understand if Donald Trump, if this were truly a campaign expenditure, okay, Donald Trump would have then had the right to pay with campaign funds because it would have been a campaign expenditure, right? It's not. And he couldn't have paid with campaign funds. But do you, Glenn, for a second, understand the amount of people that will be bayed for Donald Trump's scalp had he paid this personal settlement with campaign funds? Oh, my gosh. I mean, they would be losing their mind. They were saying that's a fraud.
Starting point is 00:26:31 It's not a campaign. Yes. So he was damned if he did, damned if he did. Correct. They pushed the next, I guess the next trial date is January 24, right? smack in the middle of the Iowa caucus. Is that unprecedented to wait that long? That was just a coincidence.
Starting point is 00:26:50 That was just a coincidence. I'm sure. Right. I'm sure of it. I'm sure it. Well, no, it's not. It actually, it should be longer.
Starting point is 00:26:57 You know, when you have a case of this complexity and this, you know, it's sort of a case of person pressure in many ways. You know, what I will say is this. We have a situation where we have to do motion. We're not back in court of the semaphore.
Starting point is 00:27:12 there should be no trial on January. We want the trial day to be pushed off even a little further because we have to make sure we're touching every base here and fighting on every legal point that we could bring forth to challenge the sufficiency of this indictment. So there's no rush to get to trial here. We get to that point. I really am. But now it's a trial doesn't normally happen within a couple of months.
Starting point is 00:27:38 This is a case where we don't even go back to court for our next status conference and decisions on motions until December. I have to ask you this question because I've had a very good legal firm for quite some time, and they were the best on freedom of speech issues. And they've dropped me because, you know, they have Google and everybody else. And while they didn't say that, they just said, you know, we've got some other clients and we're just have to really, I've been with them for 15 years. I know exactly what was going on. You, I'm in reading, you know, your history, you're an amazing attorney. But this is, let me ask this question.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Humanitarian of the Year, Reverend Al Sharpton's National Action Network, man of the year award from New York State Commission for Social Justice, you are positioned in a place where a New York attorney probably should be. You're taking on the enemy, Donald Trump, as your client. are you not concerned, I mean, thank you for being John Adams, but are you not concerned about flushing your career down the toilet in New York? No, no, no, no, that fuck will go in. I do what I think is right.
Starting point is 00:29:03 When I took this case, it's because I realized how outrageous it was, and the rule of law is in danger in this country. And for me, if I didn't have the courage to take this case, then I'm good for nothing. if you can't be willing to fight something like this. And listen, it's for that exact reason I'm out in one of those big corporate law firms where, you know, I mean, I know a lot of firms weren't touched this because they're worried about to fall out with other clients. What I did was, look, I represent a lot of people who are politically opposite to Donald Trump, right? That being said, I spoke to some of them. I let them know.
Starting point is 00:29:37 This is, you know, it's something I believe in. And look, I'm a litigator. And that's what I do. I litigate. I'm not, you know, I'm not as campaign lawyer. I'm not out there, you know, doing things that would be against what I would normally do as a litigator. Sure. When I represent someone on the far left, I do the same thing.
Starting point is 00:29:51 I litigate. I don't get involved in all the collateral issues. I fight the case and make sure that that justice prevails. I mean, we used to all agree on the Bill of Rights, and I don't think we do anymore. No, no. And it's amazing that the justice system is now being weaponized the way it is. We, of course, a Rubicon that is going to be forever, forever damaging to this country's administration of justice. And that's what scares the hell out of me.
Starting point is 00:30:15 I mean, now, so, you know, okay, it's Donald Trump today. Tomorrow, it's some Democrat in Texas who a Republican prosecutor decides, hey, you know what, I saw what they did in New York. I'm going to use the power of my office, prosecutory discretion, which is so overwhelmingly powerful. I'll go with him. Joe, there's no, I mean, there have been crimes committed by Hunter Biden in three different states that are red states. Why wouldn't the district attorney take those on? It's a clear political play here, and that's what really, really troubles me.
Starting point is 00:30:50 It's, you know, I watched him try and pretend yesterday that this was just something he would do against single person. You know, we charge people with these crimes ultimately. Yeah, you charge people with false flying business records, which is a misdemeanor. You know, election campaign violation when you're a state prosecutor that the federal authority that said there's no violation for. Yeah, all the time you guys do that. Absolutely. False business record cards all the time. Yeah, false business record charges based on what?
Starting point is 00:31:29 I mean, it's... Joe, I hope you're right that this will never see a courtroom or a jury. We wish you the best. Pass on our best to Donald Trump. Thank you. I absolutely will, Glenn. Thank you for having me off. God bless you.
Starting point is 00:31:52 The best of the Glenn Beck program. You know, I asked Alan Dershowitz about a half hour ago. what is it going to take for people to say, enough is enough? I cannot believe more people are not standing up about the pornography that is being spoon-fed our children. The sexual deviancy, the brainwashing, and the mutilation of our children. Gang, that is what we're talking about. Stop using, you know, D.I.E and all of these, all of these newfangled terms.
Starting point is 00:32:35 You are teaching sexual craziness. You are teaching pornography and evil. You are teaching mutilation of children's bodies. All of us, Republicans, Democrats, 10 years ago, we were all lockstep in. against that. No one has made a good case for it. Why aren't we standing up? I want to tell you something that happened in Oklahoma yesterday. Ryan Walters, in fact, I'll have him tell the story. Ryan Walters is the Oklahoma State Superintendent. I've met this guy. I think the world of him and his wife, they are true blue, bill of right. Bill of Right.
Starting point is 00:33:27 defenders and defenders of family. And Oklahoma is trying really hard to be Austin, Texas. Oklahoma, you don't want to be Austin. Come to Austin and see, that's your future. You don't want that. Okay, Ryan Walters is here now. Ryan, thank you for being on here. The Oklahoma State Superintendent,
Starting point is 00:33:52 you're like the head of the schools, right? Yes, sir. Okay. Thanks for having me on, Glenn. I know we got to talk a little bit about this, but yes, sir, you know, I won an election, went to all 77 counties in Oklahoma. It was clear. Parents are concerned about what's being talked to their kids. We got all these examples of books pushing transsexualism on kids, books pushing graphic pornography in the earliest of grades. So in my agency, we passed rules that said, look, you cannot have sexually explicit material in front of kids and classrooms and school libraries. And by the way, if you have conversations with kids about sex, about gender transitioning, you have to tell the parent. And we have, of course, the Democrats are fighting us, but we have some Republican representatives
Starting point is 00:34:40 fighting, fighting me on the issue. And yesterday, an opinion from our attorney general came down, blocking the enforcement of our rules in the state of Oklahoma. And so I'm going to continue to fight to make sure that this is out of our schools. But I'm telling it, it is amazing to me that we are having to be. that we are having folks stand up against common sense, which is our kids should be focused on the basics and not become a social experiment for the most radical leftists.
Starting point is 00:35:08 So let me clarify something that Ryan has said. So he put this in, and if you had pornography in your school library, and it was clearly defined, you were going to start pulling funding from these schools, right? Yes, sir. We were going to pull their accreditation, which then could pull their funding. Yes, sir. Okay. So you don't put pornography in the library, and it's clearly defined. Okay. Don't do it. When he went, correct me if I have any of this wrong, because this is what I've heard and, you know, you're too nice to throw people under the bus, but I'm not. From what I understand, you went to the Republicans in the statehouse. And many of us, you know, you're too nice to throw people under the bus, but I'm not. Um, from what I understand, you went to the Republicans in the statehouse. And many of, you know, you're, you're them told you to calm down. Is that right? Well, we, we have some that, you know, when they question me on whether these materials were actually in schools, I emailed them 50 pages of
Starting point is 00:36:08 pornographic material that have been sent to us that are in schools. And I was told they were very offended. Some didn't like the fact that we sent that into their government server. And I said, hey, you know, you think you're offended. Can you imagine the parent or grandparent that brought this, their five-year-old, their six-year-old brought this home from school? talk about being offended. Unbelievable. And those are Republicans. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:36:31 I mean, you know, we've got a teacher's union in the state of Oklahoma that has funded some Republican candidates. And yes, you need to calm down. This isn't, hey, this isn't really going on. Then I show them where it's going on. Well, it's not going on that much. Well, you know, so why don't you just cool it? Why don't you? And I go, guys, parents do not want their kids to be exposed to this material in schools.
Starting point is 00:36:52 15 years ago, you wouldn't have seen anyone defending this. And somehow now we are in a red state and allowing this to happen. This should not happen in any school. I said if it's happening in a one classroom, that's one too many. We have to protect our kids. Okay. I want you to know. I'm going to talk right directly to Oklahomans here.
Starting point is 00:37:11 You do not understand what you're playing with if you haven't gotten involved yet. They are destroying our children. we are without knowing it, without anybody planning this, we are engaging in ancient evil worship, where we sacrifice our children to sex and death. This is Old Testament stuff and it is evil. And the way it has gotten through is in these red states, Texas is a problem. Utah is a problem. Idaho has this problem.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Oklahoma has this problem. Red states have this problem. You just think you're fine. But the teachers unions are so well funded. And if you're in a red state, they'll find those wishy, washy, spineless, boneless Republicans. And they will pour money their way. You need to make it extraordinarily clear in your house and your house,
Starting point is 00:38:21 Senate in every single red state. If you are taking money from the teachers union, you're not on my side. And I'm sorry, I mean, there's lots of unions and lots of different examples of, you know, SEIU is a really bad union. Teachers union, it is the reason that we have these problems. if you are a teacher and you are a member of the teachers union and you don't have to be, but you're voluntarily sending them money? I'm sorry, you're a teacher I don't trust.
Starting point is 00:39:03 You're a teacher that I will campaign to get fired because if you're not logical enough to stop sending your money to a group of people whose agenda is political and to corrupt our children, no sympathy for you. I'm sorry. There are no middle, you can't play the middle ground in this. Our children are at stake. So yesterday, he's a Republican. Is he not the Attorney General?
Starting point is 00:39:37 Yes, sir. Okay. I want you to call the Attorney General. I'm sorry to have you as a witness of this, Ryan. You have nothing to do with this. I call on you. to call the Attorney General's office today if you're in Oklahoma. And if you believe this, we don't want any kind of pornography or any of this crap in our schools,
Starting point is 00:40:00 period. Period. I have been told over and over again from Republicans who constantly are beaten into the ground by the teachers' unions, that the reason why they always lose is because the, Republicans that do have a chance of a spine don't stand up because they don't feel the people have their backs. So you've got to call all of them and say, hey, you'd take any money from the teachers union? Hey, how do you feel about the thing the attorney general did? And then you make it very clear to them.
Starting point is 00:40:38 No threats. Nothing. Nothing. You cannot play that game. You just be very clear. you answer to me. I, you are a representative of me. Mr. Attorney General, you are to protect and defend the people and the Constitution of Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:41:00 I don't think that this is part of that. Maybe you do and we disagree, but I want you to know I will campaign against you. I will stop giving money to the GOP until you stop. allowing this to happen to our children. I'm sorry, Ryan. Anything else to say? Well, Glenn, I appreciate you and your work. And, you know, and this is the reality is that the radical left is trying to turn kids against their family.
Starting point is 00:41:35 They're trying to turn kids against this country. And frankly, they're trying to turn kids against their face. That's where this is all based in. We know it. We've seen it in Marxist theology. That is where the left is headed. if we do not aggressively take them on and get common sense and the values that this country was founded on back in our education system, this will be a country forever lost.
Starting point is 00:41:59 And this is the opportunity, and this is to me their end-game scenario. They're going to take our kids, turn them against their families, their country, and their faith. I will do all I can in my power to fight against this in the state of Oklahoma. we have to keep our red states in line with our country's values, and they are coming after our kids, and we've got to protect them. Do not sit down. Do not sit down ever. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:42:23 I really appreciate it, Ryan. Oklahoma, you better wake up. You better wake up. And every single red state you think you're safe, you're not. They are the, the fox is in the henhouse. Let me read something that, that I just shared with Alan Dershowitz. This is at the time when we had lost every battle in the first eight months of the American Revolution.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Washington hadn't won a damn thing. Our army is just down to a few stragglers. And everybody was excited in the summer. Yeah, let's take on the king. And now no one was around. And Thomas Payne wrote, these are the times the try men's souls, the summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will in this crisis shrink from the service of their country. But he who stands by it now deserves the love and
Starting point is 00:43:24 thanks of man and women. Tyranny like hell is not easily conquered. Yet we have this consolation with us that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph, what we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly. It is dearness only that gives everything its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods, and it would be strange indeed, if so celestial an article as freedom, should not be highly rated. Britain, it writes, but I would say our schools,
Starting point is 00:44:03 our school boards, our justice system, our king in Washington, wants to bind us in all cases, and if being bound in that manner is not slavery, then there's not such a thing as slavery upon the earth. Do not shrink from these times. You were born at this time because you have a voice to be offered. You may not think you make a difference, but believe me, by sitting this out, you will make a difference for the other side.
Starting point is 00:44:48 May hell come with it, but I will not turn my back on the bill of rights and the decency of what men should be. I will not turn my back on our children. Will you join the fight?

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