The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Jonathan Pageau & Gordon Chang | 1/16/25

Episode Date: January 16, 2025

Symbolic World Press Founder Jonathan Pageau joins to discuss the insane possibility that NASA may have found evidence of a parallel universe. “China Is Going To War” author Gordon Chang joins to discuss if the Panama Canal could be the catalyst of the next World War with China. Glenn reads his version of Biden’s farewell address.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Well, it is Thursday. Stu and I, I mean, he almost came to blows. Almost came to blows over, do interdimensional beings exist? I mean... Just like every other talk show today, I'm sure. Just exactly where he is coming up. Of course. Jonathan Bejo is joining us.

He is... Well, I don't want to explain it. You'll have to listen first. That's much better. No, because if I explain it, then you get to... into the questions that you had about it and you're like well wait a minute so you just have to experience it also gordon chang is china preparing for war and what about the patamac canal and i had to recap biden's farewell speech from last night because i know nobody watched it but i i added a little

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You're listening to the best of the blue. He's French. But he's French-Canadian, so it lessens the blow. a little bit. He's with us now. He is an icon carver. You can find it at Peugeotcarvings.com. He also writes a lot, orthodox artsjournal.org.

And he speaks on the symbolic world, the symbolic world.com. And that's what I want to talk to him about. I want to talk to him about, you know, there's a lot of things. I love icons. And carving, you know, Thomas Jefferson said, if you really want to embed the truth, you want people to remember who your society was,

embedded in your architecture. And there's a lot of lost meaning in icons. And I was talking about this today with one of my researchers, and she said, you know, Jonathan's probably going to be able to talk about this. And I don't know how he's going to talk about this, but I wanted to get him on first thing as he's in the airport, traveling here for the full show later today. Jonathan, welcome to the program. It's good to meet you.

It's nice to meet you. I can't wait to meet you in person. So we were talking about, I had a conversation with Michael Schellenberger. Do you know who he is? Yes. Yeah. So Michael Schellenberger, last night, I asked him about the UFOs or the UAPs, the flying disc, whatever they are in all over America and the world. and I said, what do you think those are? And he said, well, I'll be surprised if they're China.

And I said, wow, okay. And he said, I'd be shocked if they were ours. And I said, well, we're narrowing it down here. Michael, where are you going? And he said, and I don't think they came from outer space. I said, okay, I'm out of options. And he said, well, I don't know. He said, but the most logical is some sort of other

dimensional being. And he said that could be spiritual. That could be scientific going into the, you know, a fourth dimension. And I went down a rabbit hole last night at two o'clock in the morning just looking at all this stuff. And I mean, we're in for something huge if that's what it is. Game changing. Do you have any comments on this? Well, I think the first thing to say, if in terms of meaning,

Like the thing that I'm interested in is really symbolic structures and symbolic meaning. The first thing to understand is that this is an unidentified phenomenon. That's really important. That is we don't know what it is. There's a category for that, right? So we're trying to guess. We're trying to understand. It's something like the category of stranger, right?

That is because it's like an alien influence, we use that word alien as well. And so no matter where it comes from, at this moment, it's playing an alien influence on us. That is, it's acting on us in a way that it's making us trying to understand what their intentions are, what exactly is the reason for this happening, why it doesn't fit in our normal meaning structure. And that in some ways is really important. It's like a monster, right? You encounter a monster. You don't know what that is.

You have no idea, a sphinx or something like that. And that is the role that a lot of these stories are playing, the alien, the extraterrestrial, the unidentified object, the unidentified flying object. And so people try to connect it with all these other stories that we encounter. And so, of course, people are going to have religious interpretations of it. They also are going to have kind of scientific inquiries about it. And the only thing we can do is try to think once we figure out what they are, then they won't be that.

They won't be alien anymore. They won't be unidentified and we'll be able to know how to deal with them. But until we have an idea of what they are, now we're dealing with the problem of something that's like a monster that's like a hybrid monster that you don't know what it means so you know that's the way that i i see it i you know i was thinking today i got up after a fitful few hours of sleep um and i thought this is nietz we have destroyed god um and we you know so many no longer believe in god they believe science is god man is god whatever and we are looking at making things. For instance, Abigail Schreiber says, you know, there's now this, this thing that is not

part of you, but lives outside of you and inside of you that might tell you that you're a different gender. Well, that sounds like a soul that's misinformed. And so it's, so it seems as though we are creating or recreating a religion in our society. That's exactly right. And for sure, the extraterrestrial and the unidentified flying orb lights are a way to kind of re-inscribe religious stories and religious imagery into our world with a scientific lens. And so, and often the problem, I think, and that's why I focused on meaning before, that the problem is that we're so focused on understanding what these phenomena are in terms of, you know, what is their physical, mechanical causes. And we are not trying to figure out what they're doing in terms of the way we perceive

ourselves and the way we perceive our place in the cosmos. And so, and that's what, that's the biggest thing. AI, all of these questions, people are always asking the technical question, but very few people are asking, what does it mean for us to be dealing with these types of intelligences that are kind of poking their nose back into the world right now? So what would happen to us? I mean, my faith would be fine, but what would happen to us if we did find that we weren't alone in the universe? Well, you know, you could ask the question in all kinds of ways. What happened when we discovered that there was a whole continent that we didn't know about

and that there were cultures that nobody has ever talked about and no one has ever dealt with? The situation would be the same. It would be catastrophic in some ways. It would lead to the end of a world. It would lead to mass transformation. But it wouldn't change the basic structure of what meaning is and what, you know, spirituality is, what God, when we talk about God, what we're talking about. In some ways, it would be a big clash, like the Colombian clash, you could say, but it wouldn't, it wouldn't destroy religion at all.

I don't see why it even affects them. Right. You know, in looking at icons that have happened all over the world, you see a lot of the same kind of icons on different continents that look to be like a, some sort of an alien or something that's coming from the sky, you see the huge icons that can really only be viewed from up above and made at a time when nobody was up above. What do you make of those? Well, I think that the idea of something that comes down from heaven

is definitely a, you know, it's a universal image, it's universal structure. It has to do with how light is up in the heavens. it has to do with how the stars are like a big clock that, you know, structure our world. And that's really important to understand. Now, we have to be careful and not confuse that with the kind of scientific worldview that we live in right now. And so there's a kind of inversion that happened at some point during the Copernican Revolution, where now, you know, how can I say this?

It used to be that the earth was the place in which we stood, and we look at the heavens to kind of give us meaning. But now we've changed that. You know, the heavens are as physical and as mechanical as our bodies. And so they're not the spiritual thing. They're not the pattern that helps us, at least when you see it from the scientific point of view, the sun still gives us meaning. You know, it's still cast light on your day.

It's still basically structures your entire existence because you comes up in the morning and goes in the evening, you wake up, you go to sleep. But we have to be careful not to confuse. science fiction with spirituality. And I think that that's a big danger. And what do you mean by that? Well, what I mean is, you know, the idea, for example, that there are alien beings outside in the world is far more similar to the ancient story of what we call the Mariners' Tale, right? Or something like going and discovering a new continent in America. So when we do that, but now outer space has become something like the ocean, or you see that in Star Trek, the ocean that you

go out and then you explore and you find these new worlds and find these new beings that you had never seen before. And that's very different from, let's say, a spiritual hierarchy of gods or of angels that are qualitatively different from us, you know, and that are in some ways the beings that provide meaning to smaller beings, you know, like angels are messengers from higher meaning down into us. And so it's, what the reason why I say that is because there will be a great temptation to confuse, if we encounter aliens like extraterrestrial beings, there will be a great temptation to confuse those with the idea of angels or of gods. And we already see people talking about it that way, you know, like as if they have this idea that, you know, the ancient

stories of gods and of angels were just extraterrestrial visiting. Correct. Yeah. And you also, I mean, I'll get into this with you later when you come in, but the idea of a gollum. I think we're we're about to enter the world of a new gollum with AI. And the old story of Gollum is like, it's unbelievable. It matches today what we're going through. Well, we definitely, I think that humans have had intuition about the notion of artificial life and artificial beings for a very long time. Right. And for sure, the story of the Gollum is a great warning about, you know, how when we try to manipulate intelligence, we try to capture it in physical terms.

how it can, you know, turn against us. There's also that image and revelation of, you know, the beast that the statue that speaks, like if we make this creation of ours speak, then everybody is surprised and can be deluded by it. Yeah. I'm anxious to talk to you. I can't wait, have a safe flight here. Jonathan, we'll talk to you a little while. All right, thanks, Ben.

All right, bye-bye. Jonathan Peugeot. He is going to be on the podcast tonight. It's also going to be on a plane in about 10 seconds. He is. It is. You know, it's weird because do you remember the book we talked about, oh, years ago called Hitler's Monsters? Oh, yeah.

We're repeating that right now. We are beginning to enter this world where perverse spirituality is starting to take hold. People are looking for meaning and things. There's a bright light that is happening. I think we're at the very beginning of a new great awakening. But at the same time, I mean, it just really freaked me out with Michael Schellenberger yesterday because he's not a guy to, he just doesn't, he doesn't exaggerate. He doesn't chime in on things that he's not sure of. And he made it very clear.

I'm not sure. But he's like, if I had to place my money, I wouldn't place it on China or America, that this is Earth technology or technology that mankind. has. Gosh, that's unbelievable. That's unbelievable. I even know what to think about that. I know. It's so bizarre. I know. I know. But I guess those are the times we're in. Good. Good. Good. We got that going for us. Repeating Hitler's monsters? Great. Great. Great. We needed a sequel. Yeah. Well, we didn't, we didn't know the first time. I mean, Nietzsche warned us, but we didn't have, I mean, we can figure this out this time. And I think God gave us a break. I think it's going to be a quick break. Really. quick break. But he did give us a break to catch our breath and say, okay, wait, wait, wait,

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money they've put towards housing, et cetera, et cetera. They need some sort of a nationalistic kind of move to galvanize the population behind the party. At least that's the way I look at it. Do you think that's accurate and what is coming? Xi Jinping clearly needs a war. And the reason is that he is being held responsible for China's simultaneous crises, which is not just a crumbling economy, but it's also, as you point,

out, plunging property prices. That's really important because 70% of the wealth of the Chinese middle class is in property, and they're losing double digits every year. But you go through the list of all the problems, and C knows that the only way out for him is a misadventure abroad. And I think he wants it for one primary reason, and that is, if he has a war, he prevents other communist party leaders from challenging him and deposing him, because he knows that they can't move against him in a warlike situation. With the Chinese people, I suppose he wants to galvanize him, but we've got to remember that the Chinese people right now are really unhappy. They don't want a war. They just want peace and prosperity. They know the Communist Party

is responsible for taking away those two things, and they're not very happy right now. So a couple of weeks ago I did a show on what I thought might happen in 2025, and one of them was China's going to war, but I thought it would be something that was not the Panama Canal. It would be something where we wouldn't get involved, but it would help them and their people, so they would go into one of the countries around them and just take it and go to war. Do you think that's likely or more likely it's going to be something big? Well, right now, we've got proxy wars that China is waging in Ukraine, North Africa, and in the Middle East in Israel.

So one war looks like global conflict, World War III. So anything can happen, Glenn, and so we have to be prepared for anything at any place, at any time. I think that Xi Jinping is going to stumble into a war someplace in East Asia. South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Philippines, something like that. But the first sign that we will have of a war could be an incident in the Panama Canal, canal because the Chinese want to prevent the U.S. Navy from taking ships and submarines from the Atlantic Fleet to the Pacific Fleet. So we may know about this first, and this war may start

in our own hemisphere. And you've written that you think that an accident, quote unquote accident, something that like what happened at the Francis Scott Keybridge, where something just goes wrong with a ship and then just destroys the Panama Canal for at least a few days. Is that what you think it, how it would begin? Yes. There are any number of ways for China to do that. So, for instance, they could take a ship, they could ram one of the locks, they could scuttle it in the Calibra cut, which is a narrow portion of the canal.

They could also take down a bridge. They're building the fourth bridge over the canal. They can design that bridge to come down easily, or they could construct it so that it falls apart. These are things that we've got to be worried about because the Chinese have a thorough knowledge of, and they've penetrated Panama, so they know what to do. You know, one thing that we learned in New Orleans on New Year's Day, and that is when you have a determined adversary who knows a lot about the territory, the place is crowded, it's very

difficult to prevent a terrorist act. It's the same thing with the Panama Canal. The Chinese are there. They've thoroughly penetrated everything. They know what to do. Yes, we can think about it. about contingencies, but the Chinese will be one step ahead of us. So explain to people because China says they're not there, but there's, what is it, C.K. Hutchinson or something like that, a company that was from Hong Kong, has been there for a long time. And they're saying that, no, that's not the Chinese. Explain what they actually have in assets there. They have, well, you talk about Hutchinson. They've got ports at both ends the canal at Balboa on the Pacific end and San Cristobal on the Atlantic side. But they've also got

Chinese state enterprises there. When Laura Hutchinson, who was head of U.S. Southern Command in the middle of 2022, she flew over the canal and she pointed out all of the Chinese civilian, quote-unquote, operations, she said they were dual use. They would be turned into military facilities at a time of war. Now, Hutchison is a private Hong Kong company, but the point is, in the People's Republic, no company, regardless of ownership, can disobey an order of the Communist Party. So Hutchison port operations in the Panama Canal zone will be military bases, as will other Chinese facilities in the area. So what does Donald Trump, I mean, when he told me this, and I started looking into the Panama Canal, Now, he told me this months ago.

And he said, do your homework. And I did. And I saw him as somebody who actually knows what's going on and cares about the country and was way ahead. What does he have to do? Because people are poo-pooing everything he's saying about the Panama. Oh, he wants a war in Panama. No, he doesn't. He just doesn't want that canal to block everything we need.

in case there is a war. What does he have to do? It's going to be very difficult, but I'm sure Trump can do it. And one of the things is we've got to make sure that China doesn't have port operations in the canal zone, which means Panama expropriating them. That means we need to have American businesses who are willing to take it over. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. How do they do that? Didn't they just sign a big contract? They renewed for 25 years in franchise for both of those port operations.

But a country can expropriate. They can void contracts. We can do it. China can do it. Any country has a sovereign right to do it. So does Panama. And we've got to convince Panama that it is in their interest to do that. So we've got to get the Chinese businesses out of the canal zone. Not easy. It's going to take a lot of effort. But when you know what the problem is and you're determined to protect the United States, you can do it. The other thing, and this is last resort, and that is that when we turned over the Panama Canal to Panama, there were two treaties. One of them is called the Neutrality Treaty, which is the treaty that survives, still in existence. We believe the United States, when we ratified that, we had a reservation that allowed the U.S. military to move into the canal zone to protect it from a third country. So that is our ultimate card. Panama won't like that, but there's nothing they can do about it. it. So clearly we've got a lot of cards to play, but hopefully we don't have to use that one. Right. You wouldn't necessarily use that if we convince Panama, cancel those leases, right?

Absolutely. And we've got to make sure that American businesses are interested in alive to the possibilities of actually doing business and making profits in places like Central America, South America, Africa. American businesses have, I think, made poor business decisions in allowing those regions to be taken over by the Chinese. We have a strong diplomatic presence in Latin America. These are things that we need to do. And by the way, it's also the Caribbean. Just to give you an example, talking about port operations.

China has a port operation 87 miles east of Palm Beach, Florida. That's in Freeport in the Bahamas. That container port could be turned into a naval base in an instant. So we really need to make sure that we look at all of these Chinese port operations in our hemisphere. They've got 40 of them, Glenn. 40. I will tell you, Gordon, I look at what's happening. And again, I credit Donald Trump for bringing attention to this in a global sort of way. it feels as though we are possibly headed towards a kind of a Cuban missile crisis moment.

You're streaming the best of Glenn Beck. To hear more of this interview and others, download the full show podcasts wherever you get podcasts. All right. So Joe Biden, and I know this is all going to come as new news to you, Stu, because I'm not going to lie. It came to me as new news this morning when I read it in the show prep. this is not something I would even care about from this president. But I think it's important just to notice how he's leaving office. And there's a couple of things.

One, have you ever seen a president that nobody gives a flying crap about more than this one? I don't think so. I don't think so. I mean, have I, no. Has it ever occurred in American history, I think is more of the question. Right. It could be like, you know, John Tyler or Taylor. I don't even know what. Tyler. Tyler, right? That was the one I didn't even realize existed. Right. John Taylor, I think, is the basis for Duran Duran. John Tyler, I think, is the basis for Duran. John Tyler, former president. Right. So, former president. I care about what's happening in this administration just a little bit more than John Tyler.

Or John Taylor. Or John Taylor, either. I mean, I care a little bit more about John Taylor. Yeah, yeah, I do, yeah. Because he had, I mean, they did have some great songs. They had some great songs, man. So, I mean, I just don't care. I don't care. The only reason why I do care is because what is he doing today to destroy our country? Okay? Yeah. You know, we've been doing a series of Biden's parting shots.

Yeah. On our show, Studez America, by the way, Blaze TV. And there's a lot. You could say he's not doing anything because you think he's incoherent and falling asleep on the job. No, he's not doing anything. Yeah, it may very well be true. But it also doesn't matter. He is doing a lot to the country here as he walks out the door.

Sure. But it does not seem like anyone seems to really care. Like there was another, what, $500 billion forgiveness of loans yesterday? Not that much, no. How much was it? He did 150,000 people and then another 200,000 people, I believe, over the past few days. It's a lot of money and a lot of people. Yes.

And this one, he's saying, because the university scammed them. Oh, God. Okay. So, yes? I think that's just, it's amazing. It's like, okay, if the university is getting, you go through legal proceeding? Yeah.

That's how they get their money back. They don't get the money back just because we don't have to take that on as a country. Correct. And again, none of this is legal. None of this is constitutional. Most of this will be overturned after he's out of office. Most of these poor people who believe they no longer have these loans will wind up having these loans. Right.

But they're still going. They're still going. I mean, They're filing all kinds of suits in courts, and you're like, that's not going to stand under Trump. They're not going to pursue that. It's just, okay, well, then stop it. Spend the time to stop it. That's what he's doing.

He's just lighting little brush fires everywhere. Thank goodness, Donald Trump is not California. He'll put them out quickly, I think. Now, Biden gave a speech, and I just rewrote it. I'm sorry. I rewrote the speech because, you know, I said everything that he said, but I added a little bit of the truth. Okay.

So let me give you what he said last night. I mean, first, I mean, do we have the hail to the chief or something that makes it sound official? Because it was a very official. It was in the White House. He was sitting on, I'm not kidding. He was sitting on a pillow last night. Yeah. No, real.

And just go ahead. And so he's. And now I'm a message. from the president of the United States. My fellow Americans, folks, I'm serious. This is it. This is my last address as your president. No joke. I've been in public service for 50 years now, maybe more. I've seen a lot in my time, but I've got to tell you, still believe in America. But there's some things we need to talk about things that really worry me. I'm not kidding. As a serious stuff. First of all,

The oligarchy thing. Yeah, it's bad. Folks, we got billionaires and corporations running the shows right now, and it's dangerous. I mean, come on. We can't have people billionaires who think they can run everything like George Sor. Well, no, okay, probably he deserves a medal, but other people like that that vote differently than the way we want them to vote. That's just got to stop, got to stop, okay? He's a good guy mostly, you know.

And big tech. Don't even get me started, folks. Don't. Don't. It's like my dad used to say when I was growing up in Scranton, you know, just an average scrappy kid hanging out with black people and minorities mainly. You know, my dad used to say to me, don't trust Big Tech. He was way ahead of the game, way ahead.

I loved my dad. I'm going to cry. By the way, California, I can relate because I've had a kitchen fire once. Anyway, back to Big Tech. Don't even get me started. We had to work with them. you know, you know, to protect democracy. That's why we had an open line to Facebook and Twitter.

Some people called it censorship. That's malarkey, okay? It was just, uh, what's the word? Guard rails. Yeah, guard rails for democracy. That's what that was. And misinformation, folks, I'm serious. It's everywhere.

No joke. Americans are buried in misinformation. But let me be clear, we weren't part of that. Okay, maybe a little bit, but not very much. I mean, not that you know of. It's coming out. Okay. Well, all right, maybe a little.

I mean, we did say Hunter's laptop was fake. Turns out, it wasn't. That was a surprise. No joke, people. I had no idea. You know, maybe we got a few things wrong about COVID. You know, like the origins, the lockdowns, the vaccines. You know, but come on.

Come on, folks. I'm serious. It was confusing. You try keeping it straight. Come on. Look, I know. some of you are mad about my family making a few bucks overseas, but folks, let me tell you, that's how business get done sometimes, you know, what are you going to do? My son, Hunter, good

kids, smart as a whip. Oh my gosh, what a talented painter he is. Did you hear $500 million of his paintings have been lost in the fire? Damn it! But a good thing, we had insurance on all of that art. You know, he got some deals, you know, China, Ukraine, whatever, but it was all above board. I mean, I'm serious, folks. It's fine, totally legit. And here's the thing about AI. It's scary. Artificial intelligence, that's what they call it. I don't trust it. One day you're talking to your phone. The next thing you know, it's running your life. That's why I wanted Congress to ban stock trading for government employees. No joke. No joke. You can't have senators buying stocks when they know stuff about stocks. It's just wrong, folks. Never. I mean, not recently. I've not

recently benefited from stock trading. No joke. My family made it the old-fashioned way through bribery, okay? That's what we did. All right. And that's America. Let me tell you about America and unity. Folks, we need unity now more than ever. But you know what's stopping us? And I mean it. People who don't listen. They spread lives. They stir up the vision. Some of them even vote for the other guy. And I'm not kidding.

These people are dangerous. Folks, I'm not kidding. Makes me so mad. I could, I don't know. You know the rest. Now I know I've made some mistakes. Nobody's perfect. I mean, I'm pretty damn close.

But come on, folks. Give me a break. I'm just doing what's right. You know, you got to trust me on this. In closing, I want to remind you of the state. Statue of Liberty. That lady's been swaying in the wind for years, but she never falls, just like America. She might lean a little to the right or to the left, but she stays upright. No joke, it's a miracle. They wouldn't let me change that torch to an ice cream cone, which I think would have been

great. You know, in her feet, we should have given her some socks or something, because her feet's got to be cold. They're made out of metal, you know, seriously. Seriously, folks, I'm not joking. What's her hair smell like. So now it's your turn to stand guard. Keep the faith. Protect democracy. And remember, I love the little children. Hey, God loves the little children. He keeps him in the palm of his hand.

I've got my palm of my hand on little children. It's good. Folks, come on. I'm being serious. It's real. I love it. I'm serious. God bless you.

And God bless you. God bless. Something else I don't remember what it was. So that is the summary of his speech last night. And he's good. Then he walked off into the sunset. And they're pretty close. He had the seniors come in, you know, from his senior center and ride up.

It was pretty good. Ow, that one hurt there. Hey, he was trying. No folks. Seriously, they're trying their best. They're seniors. and look at him go. Look at them go.

The Joe Biden players, ladies and gentlemen. And we're going to miss them. We're going to miss them. We really are. We really are. You know, I was thinking I really don't care except for the destruction. And I think Democrats kind of have it in the exact right place because they don't care about the destruction, I don't think, you know, at least the ones in Washington. And they're not paying attention to him at all. They do not care what he's doing. They don't care.

Okay. Isn't this exactly the way we should all feel about our president all the time? Without the fear of, good God, what is he doing behind the scenes? Without that fear, he should not have that big of an impact, nor should all those clowns in Washington. You know what I'd like to do? I'd like to go back to doing comedy. Like, remember Stu in the old days? 25 years ago before 9-11, we were doing comedy?

Wouldn't that be nice? That would be nice. I'd love to do that. But we suddenly had to care because these people are completely out of their mind and out of control. The way the Democrats care about Joe Biden right now is the way we should care about every president. Okay. They should have such little power. No, I'm not joking, folks.

I'm not being serious. Such little power. Yeah. Now let's go have some ice cream. I mean, that's, you know, what the founders kind of wanted, right? Yeah. They wanted a country in which you didn't have to think about the king all the time. Yeah.

And you would say, shut up. Shut up a you. That's what I think our founder, our Italian founders used to say. Shut up a you. Shut up a you. Shut up a you. Because, again, it's easy to think about it now as someone you probably like is coming into office, right? Yeah.

So you might, you know, like the focus on him. Well, I like the focus on him because he's going to fix it. It's going to undo a lot of the things that buy it in it. And then we need to, we need to care enough to get those things out of an executive order. And I don't know, passed his laws. Otherwise, four years from now, we can have somebody even Carl Marx, they might bring back from the dead. And they'd be like, Carl Marx, you know, his first time around didn't go well. But I'm serious, folks.

He's great now. And look at that beard. I mean, that's a great beard, especially for being dead for so long. And they could bring him back. and we'd be facing again, and he'd be like, I'm going to do a few executive orders. What's a problem? No, no.

We need to pay attention so they actually pass these things as bills. Interesting thing development on that front. The Republicans are trying to talk Trump out of doing some of these executive orders when he first starts because of basically a technicality that comes with this law that they want to pass, this reconciliation bill. This is coming up. This is their one big bill, right?

And to do that, they can pass this bill with only 50 senators if it's cutting the deficit essentially. And so the, what some of these executive orders that Trump wants to do will help that, right? But they need to have it in the bill to make sure the scoring is right so they can pass it. I got to tell you, I think there's more to cut than everybody thinks. I'm with you on that. You know, oh, gee, we've got to reduce the deficit, and you're going to cut a lot of places. I think you can find more.

I think he can. I think he can. Again, if you're going to do it anyway, I'd prefer, like, if it's a good measure and it's going to improve the budget situation, I would rather have it in the reconciliation bill than as an executive order for the same reasons you're talking about. Yeah. So I think that could be good. But I would like to not give away the stuff that we could get also through executive order. Yeah. Like if you can get it through the law, get it through the law, get it through the bill.

Get it that way. If you, if it's not available there, then you take it elsewhere. Because there's a lot that can be cut. I mean, gee, I don't know. We're a few hundred billion dollars away from, you know, being able to save, you know, in the deficit and pass this bill. I don't know. Department of Education. Where are the keys? You can't do that by executive order, though. No, no, no. I'm saying Congress. Yeah, Congress, go for it. We can't do it in the bill because we, you know, we can't pass it with just 50 because there's not enough. Where are the keys to, you know, the Department of Education? You know, I'd just like to see them right now. Let's put them in the pile.

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