The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Justin Haskins & JP Decker | 7/17/25

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

Glenn is shocked to see the day that the Senate passed the bill that will defund NPR and PBS, as the bill now heads to the House. Glenn examines the Ten Commandments and reveals how they alone can restore our republic. Glenn argues that when America removed the Ten Commandments, it didn’t just remove God; it removed the blueprint for civilization. Our Republic President Justin Haskins joins to discuss how President Trump’s tariffs are somehow not driving inflation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All right, today's program. It's riddled with great stuff. We start with the good news of the Senate saying no more NPR or PBS. Oh, my gosh. The number of children that are going to starve because Big Bird has been put out of his house. What a bunch of crock. But we get into that also a little bit more on what's really going on with the Epstein thing. A reminder that the Ten Commandments is more than a tale from the Bible.

It's the foundation of everything in Western civilization. And the reason why I tell you that, there's this movement now that Mercury 1 and the American Journey experience are behind. And it is to get the Ten Commandments in every school in America. Two states now have passed laws where if you just give them the proper copy of the Ten Commandments, it must be posted in the classrooms. So we'll tell you all about that. this is a way you can really help. And Justin Haskins is here to talk about tariffs. And am I wrong on tariffs or just not as right as I usually am? All this and more on today's

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1. It is our history department. And you're going to be hearing a lot about the American journey experience soon. But this is the one that we are collecting all of the documents. We're preserving history and we're teaching history. So we put a partnership together with Patriot Mobile, American Journey Experience, and wall builders, plus the pro-family legislative network, which is an amazing organization. Ten other groups have all gotten together. And this is a movement to restore the ten commandments back into public school classrooms. This is really, really important. The commandments were in, you know, in our education system for 150 years. Our textbooks, it was hanging in many classroom walls. You know, it's what the Supreme Court justices look at

when they are sitting at the bench adjudicating. They look and write in front of them is Moses with the Ten Commandments. Why? The Ten Commandments are critical for a free society. Why? Oh, here he goes on that God stuff. No. Hear me out. Commandment number one, you'll have no other gods before me. Oh, see, there's a God stuff. No, no, no. This doesn't have to be about theological differences, okay? This is a warning against idolatical. This is a warning against idolatical in all of its forms. When we make the state or money or race or creed or technology, anything, the ultimate authority, we create a God that will consume us. This commandment teaches us that to truth comes from something much, much higher. It's the beginning of limits on power,

limits on government because they are not a God. I want to show you how the Ten Commandments alone can restore our republic. You just have to know how to read them without just focusing on the religious aspect of it. So, no God before me. No king, no mob, no party, no job, no job, no. Nothing. Nothing. You shall not make yourself a carved image. Okay.

I haven't made a graven image in a very, in a very life. In fact, maybe ever. I don't think I've made, I've always skated past number two because I'm like, got that one down. You know, hey, Lord, you say what you want, but I never made a graven image. This is actually when people begin to serve images instead of truth. because tyranny always follows. This frees your mind.

It's a call to seek truth, not manipulation. All right? We are full of images in the media, manufactured images, and its relevance with AI, which is now creating images that will be your partner, your lover, your friend. Don't create those images. Now that is more urgent than ever.

because if you bond with that, now you've made that technology, you're God. So now you've got the Graven Image thing and God. You shall not take the Lord of the name, the Lord thy God in vain. This is not just about cursing. This is about the misuse of moral authority. And I learned that we have now American Journey experience. We have the largest collection of Jamestown and Pittsburgh. pilgrim documents and artifacts in the world.

And one of the things that the pilgrims printed right before the king went and tried to get him was a little pamphlet almost, and it was going to their church in Perth, England. And they printed it and said, don't do these things. They're not in the Bible. But their testimony is on the front page. and I didn't understand this at first. All it said was, you shall not take the Lord thy God's name in vain.

I'm like, okay, they got, all right, I know that. So they're not swearing in the pamphlet? What does that mean? No. It means we will not misuse our moral authority. We will not invoke God or any higher cause for wicked ends. They're saying, we know we are speaking on behalf of,

of God, we know the punishment for that. So we are telling you the truth. That is, I mean, that's an amazing thing. If you could live that one so much where your testimony is, I know that, I know the commandment not to take the Lord's God, the Lord God's name in vain. Number four, remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy. Well, I don't want it. What is that?

What is that for Western society? What does that mean? You don't work seven days. Now, where would the progressive movement be? If they couldn't stop child labor, well, not in pot farms, but they couldn't stop child labor under Teddy Roosevelt. Do you think we would have a, do they have seven day work weeks or do they have weekends off, you know, in China? did it when slaves were around did they have weekends off they're like hey you can whip me but not on a Saturday or a Sunday because I'm not working today no this this is something radical dignity

for workers the right to rest the rhythm of renewal in a world that never sleeps we forget the human soul needs time unmonetized unplugged rest rest one day. Do you see, are you beginning to see how these are the reason why we have lost our way as a society is because we've forgotten the Ten Commandments and it really doesn't. I've said this for year. If Moses would have come down and said, these are the Ten Commandments and God commanding, we get what we get. When you go into an amoral society and nobody cares about God, everybody forgets it. But if we would just repackage it as Moe's top ten tips, And we put it into a slick Instagram thing and Mo was there going, hey, hey, I got something cool to tell you about.

Everybody would live it. Because it's what builds civilizations. Honor your father and mother. Why? Why is that so important? Because civilization begins with the family, not with the state, not with a corporation. It doesn't survive without just. generational wisdom.

Without generational wisdom, you have cultural amnesia. And a society that mocks its elders and abandons its children is suicidal. That's what that means. Six, you shall not murder. That's a pretty good one. It's always been to misinterpret it. God never said you shall not kill. It says you shall not murder.

That one should be obvious. but you know from the womb to the street to the clinic we've redefined life to suit this convenience but the commandments say no one is expendable life has value

not because the state permits it because life is sacred and doesn't belong to you you cannot snuff it out why as we lose our understanding of the Ten Commandments are we suddenly seeing this rise in assisted suicide.

Why are the bluest states in the union saying, yeah, the state can kill you. You know, you just, you need a, you need a doctor to help you out on that. No, that's murder. That's murder. That's why it's on the rise, because we have lost the understanding, thou shalt not murder. What it's really saying is life is sacred. You shall not commit adultery. This one is today.

This one is almost everything we've talked about in the last few weeks. And we haven't talked about marriage. We haven't talked about adultery. This one is about trust. This one is about making a covenant and keeping your word. A society that treats vows as disposable, as disposable treats people as disposable. if there is no vow, if I look at you in the eye and say, I vow to do this, and then I'm like, yeah, that was on Saturday, then fidelity is dead.

Trust is dead, and a community dies, shall not steal. I'm pretty clear. I'd like to bring this one into the IRS. Property rights, personal responsibility. This one is the foundation of capital. not cronyism, earned stewardship. Without this, there's no incentive to build. This is why we have the patent laws. That's just another way of our society saying, you shall not steal. That person came up with it. They have the right to that idea, not you. You want to use that, pay them. Otherwise, you're stealing their idea. Without thou shall not steal, you wouldn't have patents. Without patents, you wouldn't have America.

You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. Truth matters. In court, in media, in conversation, if lies rule, justice dies. We're seeing that. This is the anchor of fairness. This is the anchor of journalism. This is the anchor of law.

This is the anchor of all society. You can't lie. You shall not covet. that's all about greed, all about envy. If we don't, if we don't stop envying, if we look at what's happened. Our society has started, because we've lost track of the Ten Commandments, our society now pits the rich and the poor. It pits, we've never, in my lifetime, I've never seen it where people are like,

yeah, they're rich, who cares, let their children die in a flood. I've never seen that. Never. That's covet. That's they have something I want and I don't care what happens to them because I want their stuff. You have no civilization. When we remove the Ten Commandments, we didn't just remove God. We removed the blueprint for all civilization.

Without the Ten Commandments, we cannot write the ship. We cannot fix ourselves. So here's what I want you to do. I want you to go to restore American schools.com. There are two states right now and many more are being worked on. This year, Texas passed the Ten Commandments Bill, SB 10, sponsored by Phil King and Candy Noble. Arkansas just passed SB 433, sponsored by Jim Dotson and Representative Alyssa Brown. These two states, now it is by law.

If the community produces the Ten Commandments and it's in a certain form, certain size, whatever, can we show the one that we have? You can frame it or you can just have it, you know, a stiff thing that they can put up, then they have to put this up in the school. They must. They are required by law. So here's what I'd like you to do. I'd like you to adopt a school. In one of those two states, I'd like you to adopt a school. I'd like you to tell all of your friends and go to the website because it's also talking about other states where this is a movement. If we can restore the Ten Commandments with the understanding of what it means to civilization,

we can fix our society. Now these 10 commandments, nobody's making any money on it. They're a dollar each. So you've got a school and you've got, you know, 10 classrooms, buy 10 of them. It's 10 bucks.

Bring them to the school and say, or send them to the school and say, under law, these are required to be posted. Send them as many as you possibly can. So, because they have to post them. so you know

because I know there will be some there like we posted it it's in the closet behind this door I don't know how the laws are written but they have to be posted so state can't do it if we want the state to do less then we have to do more this is a dollar

get the 10 commandments into every single one of these two state schools and help us turn the other states it is the answer it is the formula for Western civilization. My Patriot Supply, sometimes things feel a little unstable.

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But they don't. And then, and then it was like, and we're paying them to, do the things that we're against. At least half the country is against what they do. Why are we paying? And then the bird and the guy in the garbage can show up. And you're like, my kids want their plush toy. And every time I say, you know, maybe they can fund themselves.

Everybody says, you want to kill Big Bird. Big Bird is living in a penthouse. Okay? Big Bird can afford the bird seeds. Do you know how much money these guys have made? And yesterday the Senate votes to defile. I don't. But here's what makes me really happy.

Here's the PBS CEO. Listen to this. Cut five. We're always interested, obviously, in making sure that we're serving a multiplicity of viewpoints. You know, Bill Buckley made his home on public broadcasting with the series called firing line, which continues today with Margaret Hoover.

We are interested in having different perspectives that we bring forward. But when I look at the range of our programings on public broadcasting, I can't make any sense of an argument that we are somehow biased in any way. Oh, okay. Okay, whatever, whatever. Here's the case I'd like to make. You got to make money just like everybody else. We're not living in a communist system.

Why are we paying for stuff that most people don't use? Why? When they can make the money themselves. They can do it on their own. Why would we pay for a government? I don't care who it is. Let's say they were all just the big organ of the Republican Party. Would you want that?

I don't. I wouldn't want to fund that either. Why? Why would we fund a government, institution that is supposed to be giving us facts. Do you trust the government on anything? Because I don't. I don't want to hear it from the GOP.

I don't want to hear it from the DNC. And here's the idea, you can make money on your own. Yeah. I know it's crazy. It's crazy. Why not? Why? Well, for the first time,

first time I don't have to make that argument to a member of the Senate. They voted them out. Funding done as long as it goes through the House. House, we're so close. We're so close, please. We're so close. Now, I will tell you that millions of children are going to die. Millions of children are going to starve to death.

They will go uneducated. They will not know anything about the Wright brothers. they will never even know what a documentary is. They'll just be indoctrinated by these these hateful people on the right, you know, that are running things like ABC and NBC. What? What? Just know, millions of children are going to die. You're going to hear a lot of that.

But as long as the house does their job, too late. I mean, may I just take a moment? and admire what has happened in the last six months. Six months ago, would you have even thought we could get to NPR and PBS? Six months ago, when he holds his hand up, he's like,

I promise to be a president, I'm going to be a good one, I'm going to protect and defend the Constitution, whatever that is. He stands up there and says that. Did you even think that we would get to a point to where NPR and PBS were out? Nope.

Not for a second. Not for a second. So let's just take a moment and admire. No, House, if you screw this up. What are the odds it actually? What are the odds it actually? I would have said zero yesterday. I was talking to Senator who wasn't, Senator Schmidt.

And I was like, really? I mean, come on. And he's like, no, I'm pretty optimistic. I'm like, yeah, yeah. Yeah, oh, yeah, so am I. And it passed. Yeah. It's fantastic.

Well, let's say hello to Pat Gray. Hello. Hi, Pat. Now that you've covered the happy talk. Oh, boy. Are you going to be Debbie Downer? I'm afraid so. Really?

I'm a little pissed off today. Oh, are you? Yeah, just a little. I can't imagine. No, actually a lot. Okay. I'm on fire pissed off today. You really?

You don't sound it. You know, this whole thing that, they ratcheted up, that including President Trump, ratcheted up because they got our expectation so high that this Epstein situation was going to be dealt with. We were going to find out the real story on what happened to him in the jail cell. We're going to find out the real story on who was abusing these children for years. We're going to find all that out.

It's coming out. Day one, as soon as we're in office, we're doing it. Believe me. Okay, we wait five months for it. And then we're told, oh, I'm sorry, none of that exists. Uh-huh. What? That's, that is not a hoax that we've been ratcheting up.

I don't even think it's a hoax. The Democrats ratcheted up. They did that to us. The people in office now are the people who got our expectations this high. I, it's, it's really hacked me on. I heard someone on your show today, call in and say, I am so pissed. I'm a supporter of Donald Trump.

I have been. I voted for him. And now he's calling me stupid. Now he's calling me a traitor or whatever. No. Sweetheart, take that off your plate. He's not. He's calling me stupid.

Well, that's true. He's calling me and people like me, including you, Pat. Yes. He's calling people like us stupid. Not you. He's not saying that. That whole message is. not directed to you.

Just like when he sat down in the in the cabinet room. That is really true. And he said to the New York Post reporter, are you even, that's a stupid question. Are you even thinking? You're still talking about that. That was not directed to the American people. That wasn't even directed just solely to the guy from the post. That was directed to all of the other reporters in the room.

You want some of this? Because I'll give it to you. Yeah. Okay. It was an intimidation. Right. So he is not, he's not mad at you. He's not calling you names. He's calling people like me names. All right. And quite honestly, wish he wouldn't. But, you know, it just comes with our job. It just comes with our job. The president, if the president likes you, no president has ever liked me. If the president likes you, great. If he doesn't like you, oh, well, this is our job. Okay. And my job is not to help him get elected, even though I think I, you know, my personal time, I think I did that because I so believed this is the end of the country without him. And I still believe he's, he is moving towards the best president in the history of the country absent George Washington, Abraham Lincoln.

And he might, if we go through what I think. we're going to go through, he might actually rival Abraham Lincoln. So I have tremendous respect for what he's doing. Only time will tell if any of that is true and history will judge. But on the pace that he's at right now and the things that he has done, it is remarkable. It's breathtaking. It's breathtaking. So I applaud him for all of those things. I'm a huge fan of all of those things. but not on this and I'm just not going I'm look I in this weird position

this really weird position internally here I've got half the staff saying well I have the entire staff saying you really don't want Donald Trump as an enemy and I'm like nah he'd been an enemy before not pleasant

not pleasant that's very true but I've been here before and part of me that says oh no not again but that's just the job yeah um i have everybody warning me oh you don't want to do that then i have people warning me everywhere you're going to alienate half your audience i can't worry about that okay i'm not doing this for business i could believe me i would have retired a long time ago i'm doing this because i'm I believe in something. And I believe in truth.

We're supposed to be pursuing truth. Okay. Now half my staff says, this is absolutely real. This is a cover up, blah, blah, blah. And half the staff says there's nothing there. And so I had to get between the staff today and have, and they're all so honest and nobody's playing politics with this.

I have the best staff, I think, of anyone in radio or broadcast, and maybe the history of radio and broadcast. These guys are so dedicated, but I'm going to rat Jason out because Jason absolutely believes this is a conspiracy. That's fine. That's fine. And I asked him because he's head of research. I said, guys, I want you to go and I want you to spend the next few days

and I want you to track where did this begin? When did this begin? When was it we first started hearing about files? When did we first start hearing about, you know, Bill Clinton is on that list. Executives are on that list. Was it back in 2008, 9, 10, 11? Because if it started then, it wasn't about politics. Because right now, after,

2016, that's when everything went crazy. Things were bad in 2010. But it was the Obama administration going after Jeffrey Epstein at the time. What did they say back then? Was there all this evidence that they had collected and not used? When did it become a conspiracy that it was being hidden? Now, I went to Grock today. I don't trust Grock. That's why I have actual researchers. But I asked Grock today, when was it? And it said it started around 2019.

I don't think that's right. That's not right. That's not right. No, that's not right. But anything after 2016, I throw up red flags everywhere. Because then it's all about politics. It's either about getting Donald Trump or getting somebody elected, which leads me to there's nothing in this about Donald Trump

because they would have used it. I believe that too. You know, he cannot be in this because they would have used it. The other thing is people are saying he's not releasing this because he's got friends involved or there's big donors involved or the GOP. Donald Trump would burn the GOP down to the ground if he could. Are you kidding me? He'd burn it down to the ground. And with an exception of like Kavanaugh, which he was wrongly accused, tell me the person that has been in the administration, his administration, that has done something stupid or wrong that he spent any political capital trying to save.

If you did something wrong, you screwed something up. He's like, see ya. Okay, right? he doesn't spend that capital. Why would he spend this much capital today? For a friend? For a supporter? We know it's not him because they would have used it against him.

It's not a supporter because he doesn't, he has no record of spending political capital unless you're wrongly accused. then he did it, Kavanaugh. He spent a lot of political capital on that. So what's his motivation? I did a show last night, man, it is on fire right now, the number of views it has.

And I don't know if any of his right, but I walked on the set last night, and I had this whole script that we had prepared for days we'd been working on it. And we had guests lined up and everything else. And I walked on the set and I put the script down. And I looked at Jason and I said, Jason, I hate to say this to you. Take the script out of Prompter.

I can't honestly say any of this anymore because of his tweet yesterday. Something in that tweet stuck out. And something in that tweet made me go, wait a minute, something's really wrong here. What people are saying now, what Donald Trump is saying is there's nothing in this. There's nothing in it. There isn't anything. And you know what? I began to really think about this last week when they were throwing up all kinds of walls and I'm like, okay, why would you say that?

Well, maybe there's nothing in it. This is my first thought. Maybe there's nothing in it that is provable. Maybe these names are out there, but you can't prove anything. And it has had, now this is key. This is my thinking last week. They have the fingerprints of a thousand people on it. They have, it sat around at the Justice Department on God knows whose desk or in what vault and who had access to it for at least four years under the Democratic control.

So you don't know what's true. You don't know what's been taken out. You don't have no idea. I was thinking last week what was taken out. Then Donald Trump yesterday said, this is a hoax. No, it's not a hoax. Wait a minute. He said it was a hoax written by the Obrose. Obama administration, Hillary Clinton, Brennan, and all the usual suspects. And he said written by, is it possible that all of a sudden, lo and behold, gee, we look through it, look who's in here? And he can't prove other than that, I didn't do that. I didn't do that. Or there's something in there that has been written by the left.

Brennan in particular, you don't think Brennan would do this. If he was actually there, Donald Trump would not be the president today. Okay? They would have used it. But maybe it was a booby trap. Knowing he was running on that, go ahead. Release it. Release it.

Look what, oh, look what you'll find. Booby trap. So they always put us in a lose-lose situation. Is that possible? You're listening to the best of Glenn Beck. Need a little more? Check out the full show podcast. Anywhere you download podcasts.

Justin Haskins is here. He is the president of our republic and the editor-in-chief of Stoppingsocialism.com. He is also the co-author with me of The Great Reset, Dark Future, and Propaganda Wars. So in other words, I'm saying he doesn't have a lot of credibility. But he is here to report. I don't even think you're, you were wrong on this too with the tariffs, right? Well, at some point, I was wrong about everything. Right, okay. Yeah, right. We're all on the road to being right. But this is coming as a shock. You called yesterday and you said, Glenn, I think the tariff thing, I think the president might be right. And this is something I told him, if I'm wrong, I will admit that I'm wrong. But I don't think I'm wrong. Because this goes against everything that economists have said forever.

that tariffs don't work, they increase inflation, it's going to cost us more, all of these things. You've been studying this now for a while to come up with the right answer, no matter where it fell. Tell me what's going on. Okay. So the most recent inflation data, price data that came out from the government shows that in June, prices went up 2.7% in May. they went up 2.4% that's compared to a year prior. And most people are saying, well, this is proof that the tariffs are causing inflation. But when you actually start, that inflation is, the target is two.

The target is two. I mean, we're not, I mean, when I was saying that it was going to cause inflation, I thought, you know, we'd be up to 5%. But anyway, go ahead. So the really incredible thing, though, is the more you look at the the more obvious it is that this does not prove inflation at all. For starters, these numbers are lower than what the numbers were in December and January before Trump was president and before we had any talk of tariffs at all. So that is a big red flag right from the very beginning. When you

dive even deeper into the numbers, what you see is that there's all kinds of parts of the consumer price index that track specific industries or kinds of goods and services that should be showing inflation if inflation is being caused by tariffs, but isn't. So for example, clothing and apparel, 97%, basically, about 97% according to one report, of clothing and apparel comes from overseas is imported into the United States. Correct. So prices for apparel and clothing should be going up, and they're not going up. According to the data, they're actually going down compared to what they were a year ago. Same thing is true with new vehicles. Obviously, there were huge tariffs put on foreign vehicles, not on domestic vehicles, so it's a little bit more mixed.

But new vehicle prices are staying basically flat. They haven't gone up at all, even though there's a 25% tariff on imported cars and car parts. And then when you just look at the overall import prices, you just sort of as an index, which the government tracks, what we're seeing is that prices are basically staying the same from what they were. a year ago. There's very, very little movement overall. So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. The four tariffs are applied. Wait, let me just, let me just make something clear.

Somebody's eating the tariffs and it appears to be the companies that are making these things, which is what Donald Trump said. And then the, you know, the economists always say, well, they're just going to pass this on in the price. Well, they have to. They have to get this money someplace. So where are they, is it possible they're just doing this right now to get past because they know if they jack up their price, you know, they're not going to be able to sell anything? What is happening? How is this money being coughed up by the companies and not passed onto the consumer? Yeah. Well, there's a, there's a thing that this could be happening. I think the most likely scenario is that they are passing it along to consumers. They're just not passing

along to American consumers. And others to raising prices elsewhere to try to protect the competitiveness with the American market because the American market is the most important consumer market in the world. And they probably don't want to piss off Donald Trump either by jacking up prices and then potentially having tariffs go up even more as a punishment for doing that because that's a real option. And so I think that's what's happening right now. Now, it's possible that we're going to see a huge increase in inflation in six months. That's entirely possible. We don't know what's going to happen. But as of right now, all the data is suggesting that recent inflation is not coming from consumer goods being imported or anything like that. That's not where the inflation is coming.

Instead, it's coming from housing. That's part of the CPI data. Housing is the cause of the inflation right now. Wait, it's not housing, is it? Because, you know, the things to make houses is not going through the roof, pardon the pun, right? It's not building. No, no. The way the CPI calculates housing is really stupid. They basically look primarily at rent. That's the primary way that they determine housing prices. So they don't, they're not talking about housing cost to build a new house or housing prices to buy a house. They're talking about rent. And then they try to to use rent data as a way of calculating how much you would have to pay if you owned a house, but you had to rent the same kind of house.

And that's how they come up with this category. Can I ask a question? Is everybody in Washington, are they all retarded? Because I mean, I don't, what the hell? Who's coming up with that formula? I mean, look, I mean, I sort of. Underlying this whole conversation, as you and I know, Glenn and Pat, too, the CPI is a joke to begin with. There's all kinds of problems with this system to begin with.

I mean, come on. Okay, so because I promise the president, if I was wrong and I had the data that I was wrong, I would tell him, do I have to, out of all the days to do this, do I have to call him? Do I have to call him today and do that? Are we still looking at this going, well, maybe? I think there's a, I think there is a really solid argument that you don't need to make the phone. Oh, my God. Today's not the day to call Donald Trump.

Today is not the day. Yeah. And the reason why is because we need, we probably do need more data over a longer period of time to see if corporations, are doing something in order to try to push these costs off into the future for some reason, maybe in the hopes that the tariffs go down, or maybe there's all sorts of ways they could play with it to try to avoid paying those costs today. So it's possible that's what's going on. But as of right now, that is not at all what is happening as far as I can tell from the data. But isn't the other side of this, because everybody all said, you know, oh, and it's not going to

pay for anything. Didn't we last month have the first surplus since I don't know, Abraham Lincoln? Yes. Yes, we did. I don't know how long that surplus is going to last us. We had one month. I don't think I've ever heard that before in my lifetime. Hey, United States had a surplus. I looked it up. I think it was like 20 something years ago. It was the last time that it happened. So I remember right. It was like 20 something years ago. So I, This is incredible, really. And if it works, and you know, you and I have talked about this before, I actually think there is an argument to be made that this whole strategy could work if American manufacturers can dramatically bring down their costs to produce goods and services so that they can be competitive. And I think that advancements in artificial intelligence and automation is going to open the door to that being a reality.

and if you listen to the Trump administration talk, people like Howard Lutnik, Secretary of Commerce, they have said that this is the plan. The plan is go all in on artificial intelligence, automation, that's going to make us competitive with manufacturers overseas.

China is already doing that. They're already automating their factories. They lead the world in automation. Yeah, but they could take half their population, put them up on a plane, and then crash it into the side of the mountain. They don't care. What happens to the people

that now don't have a job here. How do they afford the clothes that are now much, much cheaper? Well, I think the answer to that is there's going to be significantly more wealth, trillions of dollars that we send overseas every year, now in the American economy. And that's going to go into other things. It's not as though when new technology comes along, it's not as though people just lose their jobs and then that's it. They just sit on their couch forever.

The real danger here is not that new, markets won't arise in that situation. The problem and jobs with it. The problem is I think there's a real opportunity here. And I think this is going to be the fight of the next election potentially, presidential election. And going forward the next 10, 20 years, this is going to be a huge issue. Democrats are going to have the opportunity when the AI revolution truly goes into full force. They're going to have the opportunity like they've never had before to say, you know what, we'll take care of you. Don't worry about it. We're just, going to take all of the corporate money and all of rich people's money and we're going to

print trillions of dollars more and you can sit on your couch forever and we'll just pay you because this whole system is rigged and it's unfair and you don't have a job anymore because of AI and there's nothing you can do you can't compete with AI. Yes. AI is smarter than you. You have no hope. I think that is coming and it's going to be really hard for free market people to fight back against that.

Well, I tend to agree with you because the, I thought about this. I war game this probably 2006. And I'm thinking, okay, if the tech is going to grow and grow and grow, and they're going to start, they'll be responsible for taking the jobs. They won't be real popular. So they're going to need some people that will allow them to stay in business and to protect them. So they're going to need to be in with the politicians.

And if the politicians are overseeing the, the decrease of jobs, they're going to need the PR arm of things like social media and what it can be done now. I was thinking at the time, like, what Google can do. But they need each other. They must have one another. And unless we have a stronger foundation and a very clear direction. and I will tell you the president disagrees with me on this.

I said he's going to be remembered as the transformational AI president. And he said, I think you're wrong on that. And I don't think I am. This time period is going to be remembered for transformation. And he is transforming the world. But the one that will make the lasting difference will be power and AI. Agree with that or disagree? 1,000 percent. This is by far the most important thing that's happening in his administration in the long run.

If you're projecting out 10, 20, 30 years, they will be talking about this moment in history a thousand years from now. Yeah, they will. Like that will happen. And if America becomes the epicenter of this new technology, they will be talking about of a thousand years from now, about how Americans were the ones that really developed this, that they're the ones that promoted it, that they're the ones that took advantage of it. That's why this AI race with China is so important that we win it. It's one of the reasons why. And I do think it's a defining moment for his presence. Of course, the problem with all this is AI could kill us all. And so, you know, you have to weigh that in.

Yeah, right. Right. Well, we hope you're wrong on that one. And I'm wrong on it as well. Justin, thank you so much. Thank you for giving me the out where I don't have to call him today. But I might have to call him soon. Thanks, Justin. I appreciate it.

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