The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Larry Elder & Darren Beattie | 8/23/23

Episode Date: August 23, 2023

Rebel News founder Ezra Levant joins to discuss the dirty truth behind the governmental failures that may have contributed to the Maui wildfires. Presidential candidate Larry Elder joins to discuss the possible rigging of the RNC presidential debates after he was denied attendance despite qualifying for the first Republican debate. Revolver News founder and editor Darren Beattie joins to discuss the possibility of an undercover cop helping cut the fences to the Capitol lawn on January 6. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Stu, what's the biggest question you want to answer? They may not even get to. I mean, well, I have hope that maybe this is going to be a good debate. Who is Doug Bergam? Right. That's what I was thinking. They should ask that. That is a big question.

He's going to be there on the stage. I don't even know if he knows. It's a little like Mike Pence. He doesn't know who he's targeting right now. Who is the Mike Pence voter? That's another big question. I don't know. There's a few of them, apparently, in every poll, but I never met one.

And Bergam is, it may not be there because he hurt his Achilles heel. Yeah, Torres-Killies tendon. That's tough. Yeah, that's real tough. But it might make an extra podium for Larry Elder, who is on today's podcast. We talk about several things of real importance on today's program. And then also a lot of political talk about tonight's broad. with us at 8 p.m. Eastern. We're going to cover pre-debate and then the debate and then post-debate. That's the way it usually works here. We've tried the debate and then pre-and-post

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And currently they're doing the truth about Maui.com. And Ezra was out in Maui. And he joins us now. Hello, Ezra. Hi, Glenn. Thanks for having me. You bet. So tell me what you saw and what is happening. I saw a report yesterday where reporters and other people were asking the mayor, how many children are missing?

And the mayor said, I don't know. And they're like, come on. Of course you know. How many children? What is happening? They said. And I want to make the comparison to 9-11. Obviously, this was not an evil terrorist attack.

But the devastation on this small town called Lahaina. which has about 12,000 people is disproportionate. It's hundreds and hundreds of people were burnt alive. And the place is stunned. People are, well, he'll make me an example. I met someone who had a friend who refused to get a DNA sample because they're matching. That's one of the ways they're trying to identify these burnt bodies.

And this person said, no, no, no. my loved one's going to come back any day now. The story was told to me by someone else on the ground in Lahaina. So they're taking DNA tests because they're identifying bodies. There are sniffer dogs by police from all across America who have flown to Maui. And they're going through the burnt remains. But people are in denial. They're from shock.

They're saying, no, no, they'll come back alive. It's almost like in 9-11 in New York. When people said, no, no, he'll come home. He'll come home. I know it. And the pain and the sorrow is so deep. But imagine hundreds and hundreds of people missing in a community that small. There's no family that's left untouched.

And when you understand the depth of the wound to that small community, other things start to make sense. Let me give you an example. I saw before I went over on Twitter. Some people saying, well, police are walking down the area. They're not letting journalists in. Right. What are they covering up? And that was one of the reasons I went out there.

I thought, yeah, that's odd. Why aren't they letting journalists in? So I arrived myself. And as I was in the taxi going to line up, there was indeed a police checkpoint. And they pulled us over. Well, Glenn, it's because there's homes that they don't want to have looted. And it would be like a 9-11 again to,

a terrible comparison, but it's one that seems to fit. You wouldn't just allow anyone to go traipsing through ground zero when there's still recovery efforts going on. Now, I managed, they said, show us proof you live there or we won't let you through. Well, I was bringing with me a Starlink radio dish because, a satellite just because where we were going, cell phone service and internet still wasn't up for two weeks there to be knocked out. So I showed the cop that I was bringing this dish.

for people and he let me go through. And indeed, that was one of the interesting things is that imagine this terrible thing happened to the community, but no internet, no phones, nothing that runs on the internet, like a credit card machine. So any businesses, restaurants, whatever in the area all shut down. And I talked to one husband and wife who said that they hadn't seen any help for days. The first official interaction they had was an air. airplane, they said, flying by with loudspeakers, telling them about closures and where to get help.

Like, imagine a slow-moving airplane with loud speakers sort of saying, do this, do that. Like, it was, it was a stunning destruction of the community and then putting them in a kind of silence. And, in fact, when we brought the Starlink, we were staying in an apartment, we gave people in the apartment. complex, you know, the Wi-Fi password to the satellite. It was the first time they had access to news about what had happened to them. And everything else had been word of mouth. So, so I think my point is, go ahead. No, I was just going to say, we only have a couple more minutes left.

And I just want to know that, you know, there are, I saw your report over the weekend. There's a lot of people that are now helping. And I know they refused FEMA help things. thank God. But the government of Hawaii is disturbing. The governor saying we're just going to take this land and make it into, you know, memorial. Then Joe Biden saying that we're going to build back better. We're going to build better homes all the way to we didn't turn on the water. We didn't turn off the electricity in time. And we didn't blow the air horn. Well, you know, the air siren is one thing, but are you telling you don't have any emergency response?

There's no like Amber Alert for everybody's phones in Hawaii. You couldn't access that? It doesn't make any sense. None of it. And that's the thing is that around Maui, they have these poles with sirens on them, alarms, and they test them. The residents told me the first of every month. And it's for tidal waves.

It's for other catastrophes. They didn't turn them on. And the official response was we didn't want people going to the fire because people would have thought it was a tsunami, the government said. They would not have thought it was. I know it's a crazy thing. So they had these sirens that never went off. And you're right about this Amber Alert system. You might remember a while back there was a false alarm in Hawaii about an in bad missile.

Right. And that panicked everybody. So, and you had terrible government failure that compounded everything. And then the reaction by the president, I think, shocked and hurt people. His first comment was, no comment. And that stung people. We saw residents who had that word no comment and a huge banner on their house when the president came by. people were giving the finger to the motorcade, our reporter saw.

And even when he was there, Joe Biden talked about himself and a little kitchen fire he had when he was younger. He was tone deaf. And I heard the FEMA guy on the radio when I was driving in Maui. And we've given $3 million. And I thought, my God, there are hundreds of houses burnt to a crisp. There's probably, God forbid, up to a thousand people that have been killed. and and I just, you know what people were saying is comparing the amount of help versus the amount of help that Ukraine got.

And this is a very Democrat voting place, but they were just, this isn't even a partisan thing. They felt so totally ignored, betrayed, and undone by their own government. But Glenn, the number one feeling is tragedy and loss and grief. And they haven't even, in many cases, come to terms with the scale. their damage. And then, yeah, the weird things like the governor saying, well, we want to essentially expropriate the land for our own purposes. Now that feeds conspiracy theories. I tell you, the pain in that place, think of 9-11, because this was Maui's 9-11 in terms of death toll or systems.

Ezra, I think that you and I are both like brothers from a different mother, because I know you've raised with your audience an awful lot of money to help the people in Maui and Mercury 1 is up to about a million and a half now that we have sent out. And I just appreciate your heart and your reporting. Thanks for being on with us. Thank you, Mr. You back. Thank you very much.

Let me play something. You know, when he talks about the pain, I want to play something that I saw last night. And this is just a regular person that was angry with Biden's speech. and I just want you to hear the depth of this guy. Cut three, please. It is almost impossible to believe that this guy, that this old man, this Walmart greeter, this fake and stall president.

Why the fuck is his wife with him wherever he goes? We didn't hire this person. I didn't hire you, Joe. You're a traitor. I know what you are. I know what Kamala is. I know what the Democratic Party is. and I know that we have a constitutional crisis

of epic proportion but hearing you talk about your house that you know had a little fire you almost lost your cat and your corvette there are children that were incinerated to ash you f***ing old man you vile human beings

the only way you feel you're able to communicate and you have some kind of you know you're so at a touch with the common man you don't even understand how to speak to them. The only way you think you can establish commonality with them is to lie. That the same thing happened to you, no matter what the tragedy is, your son wasn't killed in action, by the way.

You ousted and burned down. Your children weren't burned to death. How dare you get up there and speak this way? Your job is to go there and assuage them in a way that you talk to them about their loss. That you can't imagine what it's like. That you can't imagine what it's like never to find the bodies of the poor child. that were sent home from schools that died alone, alone, in fear without their parents or a guardian, that the most abhorrent thing happened.

You're a disgusting, despicable b***. You're too old. You need to step down. I think he is very clear. I saw this last night, and what I pulled from it, was your Corvette and your cat, while children were incinerated, incinerated alone by themselves. That's true.

And how we have a government, it's not just him. The whole government seems really unresolved. responsive to the people at all. To say you gave, oh, we gave three million dollars. This audience has given half that. This audience has given half of that. What are you talking about? You gave $3 million.

By the way, you started with $1.7. But it's more than just money. It's by just telling people the truth. When the governor could not, or the mayor, of Maui could not say how many kids are missing. You know he knows the number. We know there's, what is it, what is it, a thousand, seventy-six people that are missing, something like that. We know the number.

Are you telling me we have no idea if their kids are not? Of course you know that number. Why won't you say it? Are you trying to ease us into that number? it's really manipulative and grotesque. I wonder if this is going to be brought up. I hope not at the debate because then everybody will give their usually faky little, oh, I'm so upset kind of thing just so they don't look like Joe Biden.

But I go back to what we were talking about when we were talking about tonight's debate, what I hope we see. What is the real problem in Maui? What is the real problem? It's not global warming. It's not global warming. It is a government that seems to lack the compassion for people. The compassion and honestly the fear of the people,

which kept them more afraid of the global warming people, kept them more afraid of them to, we can't turn off the solar panels. We can't turn off the electricity. We can't arm the fire hydrants and put the water into the fire hydrants because water is more sacred than people. All the way down to, you know, my Corvette and my cat. And by the way, Joe, another thing.

The firefighters got there within 20 minutes of it starting, fire. They had it under control. By the time they got there, they came in quickly and had it under control. It was a small kitchen fire. And you said, you stood there and watched these heroes. No, you didn't. You were, you were giving a speech at the time in Washington, D.C. How were you possibly at home? How did you see this? My gosh, this is the best of the Glenn Beck program. As you can see, I'm at LAX and Rue Tremont. I was just informed by the RNC that I'm not qualified for the debate. Why?

Even though I exceeded the 40,000 individual donations required, even though I signed the pledge to support the eventual nominee, even though I submitted three polls where I was at least a 1%, I was informed that one of the polls is not eligible. It's the Rasmussen poll, even though it was the most accurate poll in predicting that Donald Trump would win in 2016. They say it is affiliated with Donald Trump, and therefore it is not eligible.

And I said to Ronna McDaniel, the chairwoman of the RNC, is not affiliated with me. She said any poll affiliated with any candidate is not eligible. And no one told me that until just now. So we're filing an emergency injunction to get me up there. This is absolutely BS. One of the candidates, by the way, offered a $20 gift certificate for a $1 donation.

That apparently is okay. Another one offered a free air quotes, country, western concert for a $1 donation. nation. That apparently is okay. Another one offered a commission to prospective donors to get other prospective donors. That apparently is okay. But I did it the old-fashioned way asking people to support me by going to larryelder.com and that is not okay. And now all of a sudden, I'm not eligible. It is designed, in my opinion, to make sure that Ron DeSantis is a nominee, anybody other than Trump. This is BS. I will see you in Milwaukee. Out.

Larry Elder joins us now, host of Larry Elder Show and 24. GOP presidential candidate. Larry, welcome to the program, sir. Are you in Milwaukee? Of course I'm in Milwaukee, and I'm going to be on that debate stage. I predict it. I'm not a betting man, but if I were, I would bet my house. Larry Elder's

going to be up there on that debate stage in some 12 hours from that. Oh, I hope you are right, Larry. I hope you are on stage. What is the message that you think needs to be there tonight? Well, regarding the reason they're

keeping me out, Glenn. I've met the 40,000 individual donor criterion. I've met the fact I've got to have 200 donors from 20 different states. I've exceeded that. The problem is the last one, which is I've got to have three national polls where elder is at least one percent among Republican and Republican-leaning voters. I submitted three. As I pointed out in that little video, they rejected one the Rasperson poll. And they told me that it was, quote, affiliated with Donald Trump close quote, whatever the hell that means. And I said, well, it's not affiliated with me. And they said, any poll affiliated with any candidate is not usable. I said the same Rasmussen that you quote all the time on your Twitter feed, the same Rasmuson that was the most accurate in

2016. And they said yes. And then after that, Glenn, we turned in another one where I'm above 1%. So we turned in four. The last one was turned in after the deadline, but I didn't realize they were going to reject one of the ones that I turned in. So as far as I'm concerned, all the criteria have been met. Moreover, my lawyer is the former chair of the Federal Elections Commission. They, 25 years ago put down the rule that sets forth the debate criteria. And they say that the RNC or DNC can set forth their own criteria. Once you do it, you have to follow it and apply it fairly to every single candidate. So they're applying it to eight of them who are going to be up there, not Larry Elder, which means, in my lawyer's view, they're giving them an

in-kind contribution of 120 minutes of free airtime. And if you look at the cost of airtime on Fox News, multiply at times eight. That means that the RNC could be facing Glenn a fine of up to $100 million for giving an in-kind contribution. And Fox News could also face a fine of $100 million by the FEC for giving an in-kind contribution. We're holding a press conference in one half hour. I'm laying all this out. and if by 2 o'clock local time, they have not determined that Larry Yoder is up there. We're going to file that complaint with the FEC. Well, I wish you the best of luck will be praying for you and hoping that you are up on the podium today. I mean, I think when the GOP selected their leadership here recently, you know, they signaled who they were.

And I don't have a lot of time for the GOP, quite honestly. I think they are they're becoming Democrats in every way I mean you know the the superdelegates happened because they didn't trust

the American people when Ronald Reagan was elected all of a sudden the Democrats were like we can't have just a regular schmo get up there somebody that we haven't selected and I really think the GOP is doing the same thing they're doing the same thing now yeah yeah I think they are

and as I pointed out in that little video you got one guy that offered a $20 gift certificate get for a $1 donation. Another one offered a free country Western concert for $1 donation. Another one gave commissions to people to go out and get other donors. I didn't

do any of that. I did it the old-fashioned way and I'm excluded but those practices which are corrupt, if not illegal, are okay. It's outrageous. And what I think Lynn is they don't like Larry Elder because I make them feel uncomfortable. I talk about the lie that America is systemically racist, a lie that the Democrats

have been using against Republicans time and time again. I call him out that. I think the Republicans are weak in letting somebody like Al Sharpton criticize Donald Trump for referring to the Georgia officials as rigors. Donald Alist Tramton considered that to be a racist term. This is the guy who once referred to the black mayor of New York as an inward whore. And here he is laying this down and nobody from the RNC punched back hard. I think I make them feel uncomfortable because I know the number one social problem in the country, Glenn, it's not the epidemic of COVID, but the epidemic of fatherlessness. 70% of black kids into the world without a

father in the home, married to the mother, up from 25% back in 1965. They don't want to hear about that because they're definitely afraid of being called racist. Nothing scares a Republican establishment guy more than being called a racist by the left. They run like scalded kittens. And then we've got this absolute disaster known as K through 12 urban education where just to pick one city, Baltimore, 13 public high schools in Baltimore. I kid you not. Zero. percent of the kids can do math at grade level. They're all located in the inner city, and they don't like tough talk like that. Jeez.

Larry, one thing that DeSantis hasn't clearly answered, and I'd like to hear your answer, is Ukraine. What are your thoughts on Ukraine? We've got two minutes. We ought not be paying for this war. We are tired. Americans are being taken advantage of. We do the heavy lifting when it comes to the cost of the United Nations.

We do the heavy lifting when it comes to the World Bank, when it comes to the International Monetary Fund. Our NATO partners are not pointing up the 2% of their GDP that they're supposed to. They're the ones who are threatened by Ukraine far more than we are. Why are we paying for it? Secondly, Putin has already lost this war. All these experts predicted that Ukraine would fold in a few days, if not a few weeks. It didn't happen.

We're in the second year now. Putin has lost 200,000 troops by American terms. that would be as if we lost 400,000. There was an attempted coup for crying out loud. His economy is in free fall. They've lost about 20 generals on the battlefield or they've disappeared. He's already lost this war. He's looking for an off-ramp.

We ought to be putting pressure on both sides to do just that and get us out of this thing. Larry, best of luck. I know you've got to run to your press conference, but I hope to see you on the stage tonight. You are a welcome voice and a voice that should be heard by more. Thank you. I appreciate it, Glenn. Tell people to go to larry yodel.com. I've now incurred an unexpected legal expense.

I'm going to need to help. Larry Elder.com. Thank you very much, Larry. Appreciate it. You got it. It's crazy what is. You know, as he was talking, I'm thinking to myself about the stupid questions that are coming from the debate. And the media, Fox included, are so far behind what's really going on.

We're on the verge of cryptocurrency. We're on the verge of another central bank digital currency. Yeah. We're in the verge of a central bank digital currency. We're on the verge of another COVID lockdown. We're on the verge of possibly putting a former president in jail. We have all these things that are so huge. Digital currency from the Fed, it's not going to be discussed.

The Fed itself not going to be discussed. they'll talk about our spending, but they'll talk about it in the way of, I've got a, I'm going to put one penny down for, for every 100 pennies that are spent, shut up. Just shut up. And I'm just wondering if anyone is going to break through with the truth.

I, I think that America on both sides is hungry for somebody that, that is, I don't know, young, dynamic, and different thinker. And, you know, Ronda Santis should have that. He's not in my generation. He's younger than me.

And he should have that. I haven't seen that from him yet, but he should have that. Ramoswami has that. We just need to see, I mean, at least I do. I need to see somebody who's not a politician anymore. I just I'm so sick of them so sick of them yeah well yeah everyone's it's like you know it's like lawyers no one likes them you're right it's like you get well every once in a while you need them I guess

but most people don't like them what do you think though about um I would not be surprised if Larry Elder winds up on the short list for Donald Trump VP pick because he you know he does a lot of the things that Trump likes and again I don't mean to undercut his message I know he's trying to become president so maybe his mind isn't there yet. But people keep talking about Vivek, which is an interesting pick. It certainly seems like they're aligned and there's a lot there. Larry Elder, though, also aligned closely with Trump. He's very good on television.

He knows an audience. He's a fighter. You know, he's the type of person where it's like Pence for Trump was this like understated, you know, guy who was kind of quiet and soft and talked, you know, related to maybe the more religious part of the audience. that Trump had weaknesses with at the time where, you know, this is a type of period where, like, Donald Trump's going to be fighting him back against legal challenges. Like, you want a guy like Larry Elder to go on television and just blast everybody.

Like, he's good at it. I don't know. I think it's an interesting, it's an interesting guy. I would not be surprised if he ends up on a short list. I would agree with you. That's a good thought. Because Larry is, and he's not, he wouldn't. I think the problem with Vivek would be, by the way, can we just get this out, please?

sure I'm I'm always wrong on names but I'm not wrong on this one because I've asked him it's Vivek oh yeah it's Vivek it's Vivek everybody calls him Vivek or Vivek yeah it's Vivek it's Vivek it's Vov it's shocking that's how you remember it I'm stunned that you went to baked goods to remember shut up this is the best of the Glenn Beck program there Bedees with us now he is Revolver News founder and editor he's also a former Duke University professor. And I can't thank you enough for just being a pit bull with January 6th. You guys have done such great work on it, Darren.

Thank you so much. And it's great to be back with you. Thank you. So I saw this report came out the 21st. What day is it today? The 23rd? Yeah. So two days ago, undercover cop cutting fences on January 6th,

New evidence intensifies suspicion surrounding key Fed Selection player. Tell the story of what you have, and you only have pictures and snapshots. You don't have the official video yet because that's being held by a court for some reason. But tell me what you have. Well, in fact, we do have video depicting this individual cutting fencing designated the restricted area around the Capitol. So just to provide some context for this, there is a whole wide area around the Capitol

that is usually perfectly fine to be on. It was designated a restricted zone just for January 6th, and it was demarcated by fencing. Now, what Revolver uncovered a long time ago in some of our earlier reporting is that there are a number of individuals very early on, cutting the fencing methodically. And when I say very early on, I mean, far before Trump was done speaking,

before the crowd went over to the Capitol, these are people, for whatever reason, were hanging around the Capitol when there was no real reason to be there. And furthermore, they were methodically, professionally, coolly, cutting down the fencing that designates where the restricted zone is. And the effect of this was basically to create one of American history's largest legal booby traps. Because later on, when the whole crowd went over to the Capitol, they were unwittingly walking into restricted zone for which they could be charged. And many people actually were charged.

And this is an entirely separate story, but the Department of Justice actually used a misdemeanor trespassing charge to wrap up a green beret. into a series of legal troubles that ultimately led to a felony conviction. And they were doing this punitively because he video recorded and released evidence of the government trying to recruit him as an informant leading up to January 6th. So there's a lot going on here. But the basic thing is there were people strangely removing fencing before the crowd got there. And hang on just a second. I want to point out, when you say strangely, it is strange that these people are hanging out 20 minutes before anything is going on, and they're calmly sitting there.

One of the guys is, if I see this right, he's using a giant wire cutter. And he is so dispassionate and calm. He doesn't seem to be in fear of anything happening for him cutting down and running. rolling up this chain link fence. Indeed. And I encourage the audience to follow along the pieces right up at the top of Revolver. News. We do indeed have video of this individual cutting the fencing. So people can see for themselves what we're talking about. We have the video of this particular individual. There are several, but this particular one who's kind of notorious, who has never been identified, who's never been indicted. The government has exhibited zero interest in him, but he was

one of the key players methodically removing the fencing way before the crowd even got there, creating this booby trap that allowed the rally to turn into a riot. Now, there's been a recent development in the story of this individual, and that is, this gets to the video that isn't public. There is video of this guy cutting the fences. Right. What is in public is there's an individual called Free State Will, who is a January 6th defendant and also a researcher who's also been digging into this. And he claims that there's video that is under seal, has a sensitivity designation, is in protective order of fence cutter bulwark, who is this unidentified fence cutter, interacting with a known undercover cop. and in fact, interacting with the known undercover cop such that the cop says,

appreciate it, brother, when this fence cutter removes the fencing, allowing the undercover officer to move forward. So this intensifies the suspicions that we initially raised where there's an undercover cop interacting with him, praising him for what he is doing, and it just underscores the question, if an undercover cop was right with him, interacting with him, why wasn't he charged? Why does he not appear anywhere in any of the most wanted list next to people with trivial offenses?

He's playing a key role here, as I described, by removing the fencing because that's one of the critical components to setting up the booby trap that ultimately led to this ride. And now, as an additional piece of really interesting and suspicious information, I would say this individual fence cutter bulwark is the same. second most wanted guy from my perspective in terms of identifying. The number one most wanted guy, the number one most pressing mystery of the entire Fed's erection is the identity of this guy's scaffold commander, which we talked about in person when I was in studio. Now, here's the amazing thing.

There's a picture, and we have it on this revolver news piece, there's a picture of this fence cutter guy hanging out way before the riot happened, way before Trump was done speaking, before even the proud boys arrived at the initial breach site. And the whole official narrative is everything kicked off with the proud boys when they went to this peace monument at the west side of the capital. There's a photo of fence cutter bulwark just hanging out

as early as 1231 p.m., 20 minutes before the breach kicked off at the breach site, and within feet of him also just hanging out casually is none other than scaffold commander. So it's pretty clear that there are a handful of key undercover inauthentic actors here who each played a critical and coordinated role in creating this booby trap, who have not been identified, who have not been indicted, and about whom the government has exhibited zero interest, or even acknowledge.

Like we have the face of the fence cutter. We have the face of the guy on scaffold. But the guy on scaffolding, didn't they take that information and say they were looking for him but couldn't find him? Have they taken? They haven't done that. As far as I know, the government has not even acknowledged that scaffold commander. How is that possible? I've made a huge deal about him.

He's the number one guy. Everyone knows about Ray Epps. We've reported extensively about Ray Epps. Scaffled commander is just as egregious as Ray Epps. He's not only like fence cutter bulwark can be seen cutting fencing very early on participating in the booby trap, but he plays a critical role in the second component of the trap, which is he's positioned, he's perched way on top of the scaffold with a bullhorn telling people to move forward, move forward, move forward.

So you have people who have just finished hearing Trump's speech. they move over to the Capitol. They're not aware that they're trespassing because people like the fence cutter cut all the fencing indicating that it was a restricted area. And then you have an authoritative voice continuously booming from on high saying, move forward. We need your help. Move forward. Is there a medical emergency?

What's going on? So the crowd moves forward. And then when people started breaking in the windows and going into the Capitol, scaffold commander was saying, go in, go into the capital, move into the capital, fill up the capital. So he was a key instigator, not only cutting fences, but more importantly and critically, perching himself up on the scaffold, telling people move forward and then go into the capital. And this is a guy again, just like fence cutter bulwark, not only has he not been indicted, he has not been identified.

And I think these two individuals, which amazingly, we have a photo of them sitting within feet of each other way before anyone was there just happened to be coincidentally perched right at that initial and decisive breach spot. These two guys need to be identified. I've really spent a lot of time and resources trying to identify them with no success. I think this recent video, if it comes out, could be helpful indicating an exchange between Fencecutter Bullwork and the undercover officer. As for Scaffled Commander, again, he's on this piece at Revolver.News, and he's in our classic piece doing a deep dive on all of these critical people who are pre-positioned before the Proud Boys got there. I even ran facial recognition on scaffold commander. no success. I'm very convinced that if either scaffolded commander or fence-cutter bulwark were simply identified, it would be the biggest scandal in the country and definitively confirm

that January 6th was a Fed'surrection in the darkest sense of the imagination. Do you have anybody on the hill in the weaponization of government looking into this? No, not as far as I know in the weaponization of government. And it's really unfortunate. It's unfortunate that the GOP generally hasn't dedicated some resources into doing this because, again, we've come up to the brink. We've changed the national conversation. We've shown these people.

But we kind of need help getting that next, that last step to make everything definitive of just saying, who are these guys? That's all we need to do. It's simply a matter of identification. And in this age of ubiquitous surveillance, it simply boggles the mind that these key people can't be identified. And it's one thing for the government not to be interested, because I think we can guess why, but for the GOP not to really be interested because the whole purpose of this Fed Surrection narrative is to justify the weaponization of the government against the GOP and it's more importantly against its constituents. Do you think we're going to find out the answer?

That's hard to say. That's hard to say. I'm not going to stop. I mean, it's become kind of a white whale issue for me. I'm not, you know, overly obsessed by it, but it's just I've gotten so far and this is like one of the last steps. There's a pipe bomb issue and we're very close on that too. but as far as the January 6th, the participants, like Ray F's people know who that is.

These people, people don't know who they are, and all we need to do is find out who they are. And I'm very confident that the identification alone will tell us all we need to know and definitively about what really happened on January 6th. Can you give me a hint on the preview of the pipe bombing information that you're close to? Well, there's been a major development since we last talked, and that is the public face of the pipe bomb investigation, the guy running it for the FBI who ended up retiring and working in accounting. He strangely volunteered himself to the Judiciary Committee and basically confirmed that all of the things we've been reporting on at Revolver were entirely valid and that the entire

investigation is really bizarre. He was asked whether the FBI used geo-fencing technology to identify this alleged pipe bomber because we know they've used geo-fencing to identify. Ramos. He can charge other J-6ers. And he got very uncomfortable, according to multiple people who were physically present, personally present. He got physically uncomfortable. His body language got really kind of fidgety. and he admitted that, yes, they did try to use geo-fencing, but the telecom companies came back to him, and they said, for this specific request, the data is corrupted, and we can't give you that information.

And he had no innocent explanation for that other than to plead with the Judiciary Committee not to engage in conspiracy theories. And that was one of the many revelations there. And so this is an ongoing thing. That's a major development. There's more going on there. And I think it's very clear that this is a cover-up operation.

They found out who it actually was, the pipe bomber, in my view. And the identity of the pipe bomber was extremely embarrassing to the government, and they've been covering it up. That's my opinion of what happened. But this individual basically confirmed that all of these things, that don't add up, they indeed don't add up, and he had no explanation for it other than to beg us not to engage in, quote, conspiracy theories. Wow.

Darren, thank you. Again, your patriot for doing all of this yeoman's work. I mean, it's got to keep you up at night, be frustrating, and you just won't give up, and I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you so much, Glenn. Find all this and more at revolvernews.com. That's revolvernews.com.