The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Leon Wolf & Carol Roth | 6/20/24

Episode Date: June 20, 2024

Blaze Media managing news editor Leon Wolf joins to discuss his discussion with Dr. Richard Ebright, who has been on a 20-year crusade to save the world from gain-of-function research and Dr. Fauci. Former investment banker Carol Roth joins Glenn to discuss Biden's crumbling economy and the gaslighting being done by the Biden administration. Glenn gives the latest update on the Israel-Hamas conflict as global tensions are reaching a breaking point. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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he's going to get us all killed since 2001. The Blaze just did this incredible story on this guy and how he's been fighting Fauci

and what he thinks is coming next. a story by Leon Wolf who joins us on today's program to tell us about it. Carolyn Roth is here to talk about the economy and did Saudis actually stop the agreement, not quote, renew the agreement of the petro dollar? Not entirely true, not entirely false. Also, the FCC, the Democrats, may be helping George Soros by the second largest radio network, which I'm on and others are on and buy it quickly before the election.

He's asking for special dispensation. Oh, and spooky dude will probably get it. Then that IDF spokesperson who says that, you know, Hamas is an idea and you can't fight ideas. I prove him wrong, I believe. And so much more on today's podcast. Here it comes. Here's a phrase you don't want to have to use someday. if I had only had a burn a launcher instead of a gun.

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Glenn, thanks so much for having me on the program today. It's good to talk to you again. It's been a while. Yeah, good. I know. Good to talk to you. So, by the way, great stuff happening at the Blaze. Congratulations.

Blaze.com is better than it's ever, I think, ever been, by far better than it's ever been. And you brought a story that we're keeping in front of the paywall because it's so important. You talk to a guy that just doesn't want to talk to anybody. I don't know how you got this. But there is a guy, a Democrat, who has been fighting against Anthony Fauci and warning that he's going to destroy the world and kill all of us since 2001. Yeah, 2001 was really when it began. You know, I started, you know, researching this. I wanted to really understand, like, how, you know, there's been a lot of discussion about gain of function research.

And so I wanted to get an understanding. When did this start? What's been the progress of it? What's the history of it? What I found going back to old news reports, even as far back as 2001 when the program began was that there was one name that continued to pop up over and over and over again that when people would go and find people, let's get the side of the story that doesn't want this to continue.

And it was the same guy over and over again. And his name is Dr. Richard Ebright. And I had followed him on Twitter since the beginning of the pandemic. I didn't really know much about him, but I thought this is fascinating. Here's a guy, you know, I've been following him for two or three years. He's been doing this for two decades. And I thought to myself, you know, the world has heard Anthony Fauci's side of this story ad nauseum. I think somebody should get this guy's side of the story because it feels like he's probably been right.

So I reached out to him, called him, and he immediately graciously agreed to give me his time. and what you see is the result of that. So in the story you go on, you know, it was right after 9-11 and we had anthrax and, you know, we got to prepare in case they start using bio weapons. And that's when Anthony Fauci started saying, we need gain of function research. And why was Albright against this? Ebright, or Ebright, sorry. Yeah, Ebright's position, which I think has been vindicated, is that the more

biological agents that you put in the hands of researchers, the more dangerous and not less dangerous that you make it. Because historically, and this is true, most biological attacks have not been carried out by terrorists. They've been carried out by people who are researchers with access to grind, who released them on purpose. And in fact, as I'm sure your listeners will remember, he said that in 2001. The final result of the Amherstead, the answer of the anthrax investigation was not completed until 2008, totally vindicated that because the person who released all the anthrax was an authorized government researcher who had, you know, legal access to the anthrax. That's how he got a hold of it. So he's been right about this

all along in every step of the way. And, you know, I just think it's remarkably prescient how accurate he's been. And I want your listeners, if they can, to put this. themselves in his shoes because I think it's hard for me to even imagine this. Here he is. He's been saying this for 20 years. And among other things he said is, you know, even if nobody releases this on purpose one day, you can have an accident. He's been warning about this for so long.

You know, even if nobody goes on purpose, didn't it didn't even say that even if it doesn't happen on purpose, if we are doing this, we're going to have so many labs all around the world that it just increases the chance that something will leak from one of them, right? That's absolutely correct. That's absolutely correct. There was a New York Times did a profile on him 20 years ago, and that was the exact point that he made. And here comes 2020. He's been saying this. Fauci's been poo-pooing him this entire time, saying this definitely not going to happen. And lo and behold, here the thing he's been warning about for 20 years happens. And he must have thought to himself, finally, it's terrible.

that this has happened, but at least I'm about to be vindicated. And amazingly, uh, through the efforts of Fauci, you know, Fauci convinces the world that he's somehow the good guy in all this. I might have lost my mind if I had been trying to warn about this for 20 years. And the guy who's responsible somehow becomes the hero of the whole story. And he's a registered Democrat. I mean, he's testified now in front of Congress and he registered Democrat. He said, I voted for Biden. I had a Biden sign in my lawn. And so you can't really make this into a partisan kind of thing. So where is he, where is he at now?

What, are people starting to listen to him at all? Or is Fauci still going to win on this gain of function stuff? No, he, he thinks, and I agree that, that there is an emerging bipartisan consensus that that something needs to be done. And his testimony, I would encourage anybody. who hasn't yet because it was not, it didn't get as much TV coverage as the Fauci hearing in, in front of the House a couple weeks ago. But his testimony in front of the Senate on Tuesday, him and there were three other witnesses. I thought was a rare example.

Like most of these are just kind of dog and pony shows, everybody's showboating to the cameras. I really felt that the Democrats on the committee, including Gary Peters of Michigan, Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire, They were all asking, I thought, really good, intelligent questions that signaled, I think, that people are starting to wake up that we've got to get a handle on this. I mean, this is literally threat to the entire existence of humanity that this continues. I mean, it's tough to say this about a pandemic that killed 20 million and counting, but it could have been so much worse, given what they've been working with this entire time. and something does need to be done. And I think it is going to be done probably sooner rather than later. Did you talk to him at all about this bird flu thing?

Yes. It's remark, I mean, it's difficult to say for sure, you know, kill 60% of humanized mice. You know, that humanized mice are intended to, you know, predict with some degree of certainty how many people would actually die if they got the same thing. So we can't say for certain, but you think about a virus that could spread as efficiently as COVID did that kills 60% of people instead of about 1% of people. Imagine how devastating that could be.

And they just did this research with no risk-benefit analysis. Nobody beforehand said, hey, wait, should we even do this? I mean, even the New York Times, you know, back then, just absolutely flipped out about it. I mean, they did an editorial that was not written by a single person, but the entire editorial board signed on says, this research should never have happened, and the virus they created should have been destroyed. And that just wasn't happened.

It just didn't happen. So does he think it's going to happen with bird flu? Does he think that this is real? You know, it obviously is a concern. I don't know, you know, where the path of it is going to go. But it certainly is a concern among livestock currently in the United States. And just the prayer at this moment is that it doesn't jump into the human population and become transmissible in the way that they intentionally made it so in 2011.

We are dealing with a world of mad scientists. From the tech world with AI to Fauci and all of the things. that we're doing there with nuclear weapons. We are living in a time where the leadership of science has gone insane, insane. And we're going to pay a price. Yeah, it's, you know, reading through this stuff, and the problem is that for so long, we have taken their word for it, that this research that they're doing, and I was guilty of this as well, they assured us.

You know, this is being done at the most secure facilities. It's all completely safe. Please don't worry. Everything is on lockdown. And you read in here about stuff where they were found to be transporting highly dangerous infectious materials around the halls of CDC and Ziploc bags, leaving them unlocked in refrigerators that had anybody in the building, including janitorial staff.

had access to. Smallpox vials laying around in unlocked storage areas. I mean, it's absolutely insane. Researchers accidentally sent deadly H5N1 bird flu to researchers and mislabeled it as non-deadly H9N2. And the researchers only knew about it when they opened the vials, gave it to chickens, and all the chickens died right away. They were like, wait a minute, this wasn't supposed to happen.

just sent this stuff through the mail. It's absolutely, it's insane, the level of negligence that we have seen from the scientific community. And when you put all that together, it's very clear. They should not be continued to allow to handle this. I mean, it can't continue this way. There's a story now on the blaze.com lab wars

inside one Democrats, 20-year-old crusade to save the world from Anthony Fauci, Part 1. and it is in front of the paywall so everybody can get it. I just want you to know. Blaze.com is asking people for $3 a month. If you read the Blaze, $3 a month, that's it. And it will unlock all of the stories that we have. Now, these are not the aggregate stories,

the stories that everybody has that are easily rewritten or everything else. By the way, we do not use AI. We never will use AI. So those stories are rewritten or put together by actual human beings. But then we have upped our commitment to investigations, to real journalism, actual journalism. The rest of the media will go to the government and they'll get the money and they'll just become one in lockstep with the government even more than they are right now. they can't afford to do journalism because they don't have the audience like we have that are reliable and know that we're doing our best to tell the truth and you're not getting this anywhere else. So if you like these stories or you read The Blaze, you can join Blaze TV and add this on or you can just go to the Blaze.com and subscribe.

It's $3 a month. and you'll get stories like this. The stories on the Blaze, the Blaze, and I said this to you earlier, and I just said this to somebody else, you know, one of the executives at the Blaze. The Blaze has never, ever been anywhere close to as good as it is right now. So thank you for that, Leon.

And thank you, Glenn, and thanks to Matthew and Tyler for the work that they've done on that as well. And I just want to encourage your readers. As you note, this is part one. Part two is probably going to drop early next week. Part three is the really scary part because what's incredible to me is that after all this has happened, and I understand that people disagree about the lab lake theory. We don't know that it's definitely true.

We don't know that it's not true. But I think everybody at this point would admit probably it's at least 50% true that this happened. And the takeaway of this from the scientific community is not we need to stop doing this research. It's we need to do even more and more dangerous research. It's really terrifying. So unless something happens, we could be looking at a very serious situation. I think this is the most important story I've ever covered by far in all my years of doing this. Well, Leon, thank you so much for your work.

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I suggest you do it now. Before we get to Carol, I want to give you a. some highlights from this Blaze Media and the blaze.com story. Biden's phony numbers mass true economic pain. The official government numbers in the U.S. economy have been contradictory and confusing for quite a while now. What is clear upon closer examination is that the federal governments overspending and over-regulation are doing serious damage to the economy, and we have yet to see the worst results of those policies. The unemployment increase seems to contradict recent signs that the economy has been weakening. In addition to the conflicting rise in unemployment,

other signs of deterioration include stagnant retail sales, a slowing of consumer spending, weak industrial production, manufacturing orders, increasing consumer debt depressed by new housing starts, falling annual earnings of full-time employees and rising commodity prices. The Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell admitted he believes the White House has been cooking the books. This is the Fed chair stating last week, you have payroll jobs still coming in strong, even though there's an argument they may be a bit overstated. The only job growth in the U.S. is for illegal aliens. Listen to that.

The only job growth in the U.S. are for those illegal aliens who will work for below minimum wage, which also explains why inflation hasn't spiked in the past year as millions of illegal aliens were hired. Legally resident American workers saw no job increase in the past year. And unlawful residents willing to accept wages Americans can't are dragging everything down. in the wage category. With employment conditions for American workers stagnant at best, the job market is another indicator that the economic growth is slowing and the Federal Reserve should lower interest rates to reduce its suppression of economic activity. However, they decided not to because it will spike inflation again. The markets have already priced three expected interest

rate reductions for the year, however, suggesting a correlation correction is an order. Even so, the stock market stayed steady after the Fed's interest rate announcement, with the Dow falling slightly and the S&P 500 in NASDAQ rising to new record highs. Economist Robert Geneszinski calculates that the S&P 500 is currently overvalued by 34%. If investors decide the market is near peak and start selling, taking their profits before prices, fall there is more trouble. This overspending continues from the federal government as well. In the first eight months of the current fiscal year, the federal government is already accumulated more than $1.02 trillion in additional debt with a staggering deficit of $348 billion last

month alone. Investors reportedly believe the U.S. economy is about to enjoy a significant expansion because of AI. That's boosting the stock markets, the shares in tech companies, chip makers, and even utilities. The government stimulus injection may be waning and the Fed's interest rate hikes starting to bite, as indicated by the slowing housing and manufacturing production. Higher interest rates hinder business from investing in production and consumers from spending on goods that support those businesses. Additionally, the Biden administration has implemented a regulatory program that will directly cost the economy $3.95 trillion in 2025 and indirectly result in a staggering $75.05 trillion in opportunity costs for 2025 alone.

That might take a bite no matter what AI is going to do. Carol Roth is here with us. Carol, are we beginning to see all of the signs of the wheels coming off of this thing? I've been seeing the signs of the wheels coming off of this thing for quite some time, and they're sort of hanging on by a thread. Now, certainly a lot of the numbers that are put forth are meant to window dress and say, oh, no, look, the wheels are still turning, and they're doing just fine, and they're going to last for a while.

but we have seen cracks. And when you peel back the onion and you look at things like the deficits to GDP, which are about two times the historic average, at a time when they're telling us there's an expansion, we know there's something wrong. Because normally when you have an expanding economy, that means you're taking in more revenue at the government level, and that means that you're running less of a deficit

because you have more money input. What's happening now is the Biden administration, has flipped that on its head, and they're using deficits to window-dress the appearance that we have growth. And we're seeing that start to crack because even that window-dressed growth is starting to come down, we saw the first quarter GDP come in almost a percentage point lower than expectations on the first reading. The second reading was even lower. So now as is at the second reading, we're at 1.3% for the first quarter, and we're expecting a third reading, and we know things keep getting revised and revised.

So appearances that they're putting forth to make it seem like everything looks great, we've seen those cracks, and they're just becoming larger and larger. So do you think that there's any way possible that anything, excuse the pun here, trumps the economy. I mean, they always say in elections, you know, it's the economy, stupid. And no matter how you windowdress this, everyone knows I don't have as much money or my money doesn't go as far as it used to and I'm having a hard time keeping up at almost every level this is happening. So this is an interesting question. There was a Monmouth poll that came out yesterday that showed you're far, away that the economy was the biggest issue. Number one issue on people's minds. But there is a disconnect by party.

And obviously when you have the Republican side, and I would think to some extent the independence as well, there's more of a connection with the fiscal reality that's going on and it becomes, you know, we cannot afford literally for more years of that. there's a disconnect from the Democrats who don't believe in math and reality anyway. And so even though they may be hurting personally, they're going to make excuses and say that it's for any sort of litany of other reasons and it doesn't have anything to do with these specific policies that we know have driven these outcomes, whether it's things like the American Rescue Plan and they direct stimulus, that's literally called stimulus that over-stimulated the economy and caused inflation,

they're going to tell you, oh, no, look, inflation has come down, even though they're still going to the same grocery stores, the same gas stations, having to pay the same rent, and they're believing and buying into the gaslighting. So that's my concern is when you have so many people who are decoupled from reality and being fed this propaganda and this gaslighting, and they're willing to eat it for basically their cults, that that is not going to show up in the polls

the way that it should if we were operating with some sort of normal baseline. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. So this is trending on X right now, and it's about Rear Admiral Daniel Hagarie. He's the IDF spokesman, and you've seen him possibly in press conferences and interviews and video clips, trying to show the world what Gaza really is like.

The terror tunnels under the houses and the streets and the yards of deep and hundreds of miles long and filled with weapons and workshops and schools and the weapons in the UN facilities, the command post under the hospitals, missile launchers everywhere. That's what he's been doing. And he's seemed really solid until last week. he was in doing an Israeli TV interview. Sorry, it wasn't last week. It was this week. And he said, whomever thinks it's possible to destroy Hamas is wrong. Hamas is an idea. Whomever thinks it's possible to make it disappear is wrong. What? No, you're wrong. First of all,

Hamas isn't just an idea. Ideas grow and grow. until they become almost an entity. This is the demonic embodiment of timeless, ageless hate. It is a culture of death and child sacrifice. It is one of the worst evils humanity has ever produced. And it starts with the Nazis. Yes, its core ideas. But Hamas is more than just an idea.

It is like the Nazis. was more than mine conf. Stalin's USSR was more than Marxist ramblings. Yes, all of the ideas were at their core. Yes, Nazism is an idea. And we haven't wiped Nazism out after all of this time. It's still here. And it's thriving in Hamas and other places in the Middle East.

Yes, hatred dies hard. And no, we're, we no longer need. reminders that anti-Semitism is incredibly difficult to get rid of. Thank you very much. Yes, we still have murder. We still have violence. We still have rape. We still have theft. Not even the Ten Commandments could do away with those. Not only God himself might have something to do with the way God created us and gave us freedom of choice. It has something to do with human nature, I'm pretty sure. But should we have given up on eradicating the Nazi part of Nazi Germany? Should we have stopped at Berlin's gates? You know, we can't win. Naziism is an

idea. It can't be eliminated. There's really no point. We should stop this. Should we have done that? Should we allowed Stalin to take the whole world? Should we end all policing like they're starting to here in America? Because someone's always going to steal and murder. I don't know if you've seen that where they are trying to do things like that. It's not going real great. I'm up here in the mountains, the mountain west. We're mowing our lawn in front. We just have field grass.

We mowed the front of the lawn around the house. So no rattlesnakes are right up against the house. Well, there will always be snakes. Yeah, but shouldn't we at least try to keep the snakes away? Can we try to, I don't know, take them, at least remove those that are right at your feet of your children or under your children's bed for the love of peace? Or will you just say, you know, there's always snakes? Honey, I'm not going to mow the lawn. There will always be snakes.

Are you seriously suggesting that we're not better off than we would be had we left the Nazis in power? Or if the USSR hadn't lost the Cold War? Are you seriously trying to say that we wouldn't be better off? Yeah, you're right. Their ideas are not dead, and maybe they never will be. But Nazi Germany is dead, and the world is immeasurably better for it. It's not just an idea. It's not just an entity now.

It's a government. Shouldn't we not try to take out Hamas? Take out every last member we can. deny it both rule over territory and the ability to harm anyone ever again. You know, well, it's just Israel, Israel, Israel. Really? Really? Do you think that when they're done with Israel, they'll stop with the Jews? History has shown that we can.

You know why we fight communism so hard now? because the left infiltrated our schools, our media, and everything else, and whitewashed the Soviet Union. Stalin was worse than Hitler as far as death toll, but we don't watch documentaries about Russia all the time, do we? I don't know why. But boy, they've made quite a killing on the Nazi stuff. And maybe it's because the Nazis had snappy uniforms designed by Hugo Boss.

maybe it's because a country we could relate to as one of the scientific wonders of the world suddenly went dark and insane but we've taught it over and over and over again how bad that is and yes that idea still is around but we're not fighting a government this I think was a huge boost to Hamas's morale

and that of its friends and poison for the is Israeli morale. Are they in a fight that the IDF itself doesn't think it can succeed and win? If you're fighting and you don't believe that you can and will prevail, then you will not prevail. Think about all of those who have fought and died and bled. The hundreds of thousands of Israelis still displaced from their homes almost nine months in, the millions who fear and pray for their relatives and friends in uniform, the millions more who understand that if Moss doesn't die today.

If we don't take out this snake and mow the lawns and cut the heads off of all of them we can find, it will come back tomorrow and maybe bring some friends and do worse than last time. Was this message approved by his government? Because the government is supposed to be in control of the army. The government said the security cabinet, chaired by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, has defined the destruction of Amos military and governing capabilities as one of the goals of the war. The IDF, of course, is committed to this.

Okay, this should terrify everybody, not just Israelis. Because at best, this is politics. Israelis trust the IDF to the rank of colonel. Anybody above that's political appointments, you know, at least as much as much. as much as their military merit appointments. They don't trust them just like we don't trust ours. We trust our soldiers. But when you get up atop of the Pentagon, it's all politics. Same thing. Except Israel's government is in real trouble. It may fall, the parliamentary system and all. Netanyahu's chief rival has left the war cabinet now during a hot war for obviously political

motives. At worse, this is a sign of one more very serious breakdown in the West's moral fiber. This time, it's the last useful fighting force in the area. This isn't about refugees. This isn't about territory. This is about good versus evil, civilizational, existential. Not just for Israel. the West is riddled with supporters of Hamas and they're clones. They're marching in our own streets. Do you think if Hamas is re-energized, it's going to be good for America? Our common enemies declare openly and often that they intend to take down the great Satan,

not just the little one. Israel is the little Satan. We are the great Satan. They will come for the, as they say, the Sunday people, not just the Saturday people. If Israel fails in this, the world will be darker for it, but it will not stop there. They will come for the rest of us. This, I don't even, spokesperson is all I can, is wrong. We must stand. We have to take out the monsters and defend the house.

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