The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Liz Wheeler & Carol Roth | 9/10/24

Episode Date: September 10, 2024

Pat Gray joins Glenn and Stu to discuss what he hopes Trump asks Kamala during the debate. Author of "You Will Own Nothing" Carol Roth discusses how Kamala Harris' proposed policies will destroy small businesses. BlazeTV host of "The Liz Wheeler Show" Liz Wheeler lays out how Donald Trump can win and advises how Trump should respond to potential abortion questions during the debate. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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you can watch it live at blaisTV.com slash debate. It'll be interruption free. Just wall-to-wall the debate. But we're all here. All of the big voices. Pat Gray is going to stop by. Stu is going to be there. I think Mark Levitt, or Mark Levine actually was hurt. Did you hear

about this? Yeah, so I don't think he's making it tonight. He's okay, but he's going to be gone for a while. Steve Dace, Liz Wheeler, all of them. Tonight, don't miss it. BlazTV.com slash debate, promo code debate, and you'll save $40. Now, Liz Wheeler joins us on the show to talk about what Trump should focus on. We have Carol Roth squashing one of the Harris campaign's biggest lies regarding small business and the growth of jobs and small businesses. Also, John Lott is here to talk about the gun rate. If you want to hear more of the show, the entire show, including that conversation with

John Lott, make sure you download today's full podcast. That's on today's podcast. The summary is one minute away. You know, maybe there was a time in this country when sanity prevailed, you know, when the economic health of the nation was a thing that both sides wanted to preserve, you know, even if they might disagree on how to preserve it, I think everybody was kind of like, you know what, I kind of like America. You know, I don't know, maybe under the surface there was this globalist monster waiting under the surface. But it's there now and it's out in the open. where we are today is wildly irresponsible. I would highly recommend that today is the day you start at least gathering the information

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She's just written an article for Blaze. Theblaze.com. Kamala Harris is pro-worker, like McDonald's, is pro-cow. Hello, Carol, how are you? Hi, glad I'm doing fantastic. How are you? I'm very good. So what are you thinking about the debate today and what Donald Trump needs to do? Because he's going to be in there fighting really by himself. The two anchors are so anti-Trump.

I don't think they're going to, you know, necessarily be helpers on holding her feet to the fire. Oh, you mean the media outlet that has 100% pro-Kamala Harris stories is not going to turn around and be a fair debate moderator at Shock. Yeah, it's weird, huh? I see Kamala Harris coming out as new and improved Kamala Harris now with more joy. Because it's the only thing that she can hang her hat on, right? She is going to sit and gaslight the American public and pretend that she was not part of the Biden-Harris administration that she was not the tie-breaking vote on all of this critical legislation, which has raised inflation, created massive deficits, and really decimated the

middle and working class. She's going to try to present herself as something completely different. I think what Donald Trump needs to do, and this is going to be very difficult for him, because when somebody hangs a softball out there, he likes to hit the pitch. but he needs to stay away from the ad hominem attacks. He needs to not take the bait because she is going to be baiting him back and forth. And he needs to stay focused on the economy, on the border, on the U.S. is standing in the world, and simply hold her feet to the fire for the policies that she has been responsible for and contrast that to the pre-COVID three plus years that we had Donald Trump as its president

and what everybody's life is like. We know that we have empirical evidence. Okay, but Carol, she does have some things she can boast about. The small business success, she claims a record of 19 million small business applications were received under their leadership. And that's a record, I hear. That's what they say. Okay, so this is, I think most people know who listen to me on,

your program that I'm one of the world leading experts on small business. I've been entrenched for decades. I heard this thing, this small business applications. And I went around to every group that I know. And I said, what is a small business application? Because when I started my business, I didn't have to apply at the federal level. You know, certainly there were, if I had an LLC, so I registered that with the state. Some people have sold proprietorship.

what does this mean? Because we have 33 plus million small businesses, but that only grows on net, you know, less than a million a year. So how is it possible that we have 19 million new application starts? And so far, no one's really been able to give me an answer. I have one committee, you know, related to the House Small Business Committee who thinks that maybe there's some information that came from the state census data. but I asked them, they're actually having a committee hearing, and I asked them if they could ask the SBA administrator and put her on the hot seat because they're running around touting these made-up statistics to sound like there's some champion of small business. At the same time, Glenn, NFIB came out with their small business optimism index today. The 32nd consecutive months that small business optimism has been below the historical average. And that's a 50-year average. Well, that's because they fear Donald Trump is coming back. For 30 months, yes. I mean, it's crazy because I see this number, you know, of 19 million small businesses.

And I'm like, I thought that was just because of all the businesses that they had put out of business, they're like starting up new businesses. So I just thought they were taking credit like they do with all the job creation. We've created more jobs. No, you didn't. People went back to work. You had told them you cannot work. So of course there were people going back to work.

But you're saying this isn't that at all. This is possibly even made up. Yeah, I mean, it's something, but nobody knows really what it means. It certainly is not a proxy for. new small businesses created, which is what they're intimating. And we know the number of small businesses, you know, a year ago was 32. Something million. And then it climbs to 33 point something million. You know, yes, that's on net. Unless they're killing 18 million small businesses a year, which, you know, we know that they're certainly trying, but I don't think that they've succeeded in

doing that yet. That this is off nonsense. And they're doing this again and again to gaslight people into things are so great. We're so in your corner. But at the same time, she's coming out and she's tweeting about anti-small business policies like the pro act that she said that she's going to put in place, which for people who don't know, that is the anti-gig worker and anti-independent contractor language from California's AB5 taken nationally, and they want to kill the gig economy and all of the small businesses that depend on independent contractors in favor of unions.

unions and big business. So it's very difficult to say, I am the small business, I am the worker candidates, and still be in favor of these things, which is why I equate it to being like McDonald's being pro-couse. You know, it is, as a small business owner myself, I look at tomorrow and think if they get in, the regulations, just the regulations alone that are still sitting out there that they want to impose will just crush small businesses. These guys, you know, they used to say that, well, the Republicans are in with big business. Well, they were also in with small business, too. You know, they had a business attitude. These guys are only big business. They are only in with the giant global corporations. That's all they care about. And it is honestly like

they are trying to impoverish the small business and impoverish the middle class without moving any of the middle class up, they're moving them all down. Yeah, I'm glad that you brought up regulations because, as I mentioned, there's this House committee meeting right now, and they came out with a report earlier this year that the Biden-Harris agenda imposed $1.7 trillion in regulations. on small businesses. And that was before we've had some of these pending regulations go into place. So I am certain that that's higher. And that is millions upon millions of hours that are wasted. That is real dollars that are wasted. And that's a barrier to success. You know, we keep hearing

this ridiculous phrase, the opportunity economy. Well, if you want to create opportunity, you reduce barriers or you reduce regulations, you reduce taxes, you reduce the government being up in your business and you have the government minded their own business so that you can go off and work in your business. You know, that is what it is all about. I know that our audience is heavy on entrepreneurs and people who have done business for a long time.

But there's also a younger generation that listens and explain why regulations hurt opportunity? They hurt opportunity because, number one, they're costly. Two, you're spending time complying with the regulation instead of spending the time working and growing your business. And the challenge is that if you are a big company, if you're the Amazon's of the world, if you're the Walmarts of the world, you have not only a whole balance sheet to deal with this, but you have a whole host of people in your company, whether it's HR, or whether it's some other administrative function that can deal with these regulations. When it comes to small business, the majority, greater majority of small businesses,

it's just the entrepreneur. So it's one person who's already wearing all of those hats trying to deal with this. Even if you have some employees, you don't have the wherewithal. The ability you're struggling enough to deal with inflation, finding the right workers, remaining competitive, dealing with cybersecurity, and the like, you don't have time and you don't have bandwidth and you don't have capital to deal with these regulations. And some of them are so onerous that people want to close their business, something that we've

been talking about, Glenn, for months now that the Corporate Transparency Act, which is this registration with the Financial Crimes Division of the Treasury. I've had hundreds upon hundreds of small business owners and people looking to start small businesses saying that they don't want to, they want to close their business, they don't want to start because they don't want to deal with the asymmetrical risk of having their information exposed or the government coming after them for doing something wrong. So because the government is imposing this regulation, which by the way is still in flux, it's preventing these entrepreneurs from taking those risks and creating opportunity, which creates jobs, which creates more

dollars in their community, which grows the economy, which is what we need to move ourselves forward. This is so obvious. But all they want to do is take away wealth, create barriers, redistribute it, and make it very, very challenging for a small business owner to succeed. You, I think it was you, Carol, said, oh, maybe six months ago we were talking and you said, Glenn, most of the stuff that they've done doesn't really kick in until 2020. So we haven't felt the full impact of Bidomics yet.

Was that you that said that to me? Quite probably. So what is it that is coming still that we haven't felt? What described next year, just as it stands, without any new policies, if we just continued where we are? Well, as I said, the House Small Business Committee is, doing a markup on seven different pieces of legislation trying to overturn, you know, all of these stringent rules for small business.

This Corporate Transparency Act, we have until the end of the year for that to go into effect. If there's no delay, which, by the way, there's two delay bills and two repeal bills and seven lawsuits, if we don't get that done by the end of the year, then people are going to be faced with compliance. And then on top of that, you know, we have the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. You know, large pieces of that is expiring and changing the way that small businesses have to look at their taxes and figure out, you know, what makes sense from them from an administrative standpoint. So, you know, and that's, again, just scratching the surface.

So, you know, one after another, there are things in the pipeline. And then if Kamala Harris were to become president, again, day one, they are going to try to rule by executive order. I mean, one of the other things, this Department of Labor rule, their anti-independent contract rule, that went into effect in March. They haven't been truly enforcing it. I haven't seen much of the way of enforcement. But if they start to crack down on that, you know, that's something that could kill, you know, across the board. So there are just so many different things, and it's challenging enough to own your own business, as you well know, as a small business owner, to not constantly have to be worried about what's the next shoe that's going to drop coming from your own stuff.

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I'm so excited for this debate. Are you really? Yes, I'm such a political nerd. I love this kind of stuff. I know it's a circus. It's a clown show. But it's also, it seems like a culmination of what we fight for every day. We finally have two people that are representing polar opposite viewpoints for our country, different paths. And I'm rooting for Trump. I think he can win. But I think one of the most important things that he has to do is understand his enemy. If you know your enemy, then you will be able to defeat them. And he has to be very self-aware that Kamala Harris is going to try to be this girl boss, girl power. She's going to try to provoke him emotionally. And he has to be able to let that roll off of his back. So what do you mean she's going to be that girl boss, girl power?

Remember when she was debating Mike Pence during the last round? And she goes, excuse me, Mr. Vice President, I'm speaking. Why do you think this time her team insisted that the mics be left open versus, remember in the first debates, the between Trump and Biden, the mics were muted so you could only speak during your lot of time. Otherwise, no one would be able to hear you. All of a sudden, she had agreed to this. And then last week her team says, actually, we want the mics open. Well, why? So that she can run these, quote, unquote fact checks in real time. She can say, you're lying. I'm speaking and make it seem like he's this white patriarchal male who's trying to be a bully to her as a woman of color. I think if he

handles this debate exactly the same way he handled it with Joe Biden, he's going to do really well. Yes. He did very well with Joe Biden because he stayed, he was so disciplined about his message. See, this is the thing. Kamala Harris is a radical. She's not moderate. She's not centrist. She shouldn't appeal to independence. She is a radical leftist. A Marxist. Her father was a Marxist, is a Marxist economics professor. And Donald Trump should highlight that.

He has all the facts on his side. She's been in the White House for four years now. So her record is Joe Biden's record. So on anything. I don't know if you heard the news today, but her policy page is Joe Biden's policy page. How do you do that? It's like a gift to the Trump campaign. Oh, it is.

It absolutely is. She's going to come out and pretend to be a prosecutor. She's going to ask him pointed question after pointed question. She's going to call him a felon. Yes. And you know what he should do if she calls him a felon? Because she's going to, that's pulled well for them. He should say, Madam Vice President, do you agree with the Supreme Court ruling that the vaccine mandate that came from the Biden Harris administration was illegal? And if she says that she agrees with the Supreme Court, then if she says that she agrees with the Supreme Court, then she says that she thinks it's legal for her to do that. So when you want to. talk about crime against people and a visceral response that people are going to have to a crime committed against them, he should pivot to the topic that's important for the viewers to understand. He's never going to change Kamala's mind on stage, but that's not the point. The point is to showcase the American people what she is. So, you know, you started with saying, and I've wanted this for a long time, if we're going to talk about communism, we're going to talk about truly changing the economy, changing the constitution, All the things that the World Economic Forum has been doing, along with a Biden-Harris thing,

then let's have that conversation honestly, you know? And we do have literally a communist. What she is proposing is communism. And her dad loves that stuff. So she grew up steeped in all of this stuff. But she won't admit it. That's the problem. her track record shows it. So all Trump has to do is remember one question. Every time she makes an

assertion, he should say, what does that mean? And not, not, he should say it rhetorically. He shouldn't give her back the microphone. But if she says, I'm going to be tough on the border, he should say, what does that mean? During the past four years, when you were in the White House and had control of this, as the border, which was acknowledged by the United States Congress after Biden appointed you to that position, eight and a half million illegal aliens crossed the border. So when you say you're going to be tough on the border, is that your definition of tough on the border? Or did you fail when you had a chance at this job? She's going to say, we have greatly, uh, stop the flow of illegal. I hope she does because that'll turn people off because people have

Haitian migrants eating ducks in their front yard in Springfield, Ohio. They're not going to believe her when she says everything's hunky-dory. Yeah, I don't. Tell me this. I said to Stu yesterday that I'm actually becoming more and more optimistic about this election because things are getting so bad that the average person, I mean, if you're a, you're a stay-a-home mom, if you're a, if you're a you are worried about your kids getting to and from school, even in California, where now the immigrants are just staying at the bus stop, standing there with your kids. And if the bus sees a bunch of immigrants there because they're trying to get on the buses, if they see them, they just blow on by. They won't pick your kid up. So now your kid is left at the bus stop with illegals because the bus driver doesn't want to stop.

you have your every day you're going in and you're fighting against prices the rate of the rise of inflation has slowed down but they keep saying that you know inflation is is falling no the rate of how the rate of how uh of going up has slowed down but we're still 20 to 23 percent inflation compared to when Trump was in office. That's all he has to say. He just has to say, my fellow Americans, how much are you paying for groceries right now? What was your grocery bill last week?

How much did it cost you to fill up your tank of gas the last time you filled up at the gas station? And then he says, and how much did it cost when I was president? And if Kamala Harris says, oh, I'm going to impose price controls or some other communist measure, I think that was for the food industry. But that's her general idea, which showcases exactly what she is. He just has to say, well, do you support continuing to send U.S. dollars to Ukraine? because that's what's causing the inflation. She's going to say, yes, this is a fight against Putin.

He's a tyrant, blah, blah, blah. After she finishes her spiel, Trump just says, okay, so what I'm hearing you say is, yes, you want to continue to spend American dollars in Ukraine, which means you're saying to the American people that you don't care how much their gas and groceries cost. I do care. And I've proved that because when I was in the White House,

people had a very different life than when you have been in the White House. Yes. When it comes up to Ukraine, I mean, right now, Afghanistan is there on everybody's mind again, because it was the anniversary. And that was such a disaster. And now we are openly praising Ukrainians for their drone attacks on Moscow. We would never put a, if Canada became an enemy and Russia was sending drones over

and military equipment and they were bombing with drones, New York. York or Washington, D.C., we would not put up with it. They're not going to put up with it either. Right. And how is she going to make the case that we are safer today? Again, I go back to the mom worried about our kids. I don't want to send my kids to war. I don't want our world to be at war. I'm also, I don't want drag queens in my school, you know, for my kids. of these things are so much worse that I just think that when people close the curtain, this time around they are going to reflect, do I want more of this?

Right. That's why I encourage President Trump to stay on message, because if you get into the weeds on the personal stuff, as entertaining as that might be for us to watch for a moment, the average American wants to talk about how things impacted them. That's classic politics. So with the war in Ukraine, yes, you can talk about these hypothetical war plans, but the truth of the matter is, Kamala is dragging us to the brink of war. She arguably is the one who started this war by saying that Ukraine could be part of NATO. That was, what, a month before Russia invaded Ukraine.

There's no doubt that there was a correlation between those comments and the onset of this war. I mean, she is a warmonger. She wants to continue this. And then what's worse is she wants to draft our daughters and send them to war. I know. Tell that to the average suburban mom. I have two young daughters, the idea that Kamala Harris could say. send them off to war enrages me.

I have an 18-year-old daughter that could be drafted, I guess, under her if we went into a war. That is... It's unacceptable. Unacceptable. I mean, and there's no Canada for my son to run to, but I'd have to have, I'd have to find some place for my son and daughter to run to. They will not serve in a war with these people. They won't.

I, as a dad, would say, do not do it. where do we, where do we have you go to? And it's a very frightening prospect for our country. We shouldn't be in a situation where we feel like we have to run away from our country. I have never felt that way. No, I have not either. And I'm a newer parent than you are. My oldest is three and a half. But the idea that I'm already having to think about all these different ways to protect her from the left trying to get her, whether it's trying to indoctrinate her on abortion, whether it's trying. I actually had last year, it was not this past November, but the November before I had a debate with the local. school board member outside of the polls. I was walking in carrying my daughter on my hip. And the school board member or this candidate I knew was very leftist. And she wanted to talk about her policy. So I'm like,

sure, I enjoy this a little bit. And I said to her, do you believe in in teaching transgender ideology to children? And she goes, oh, we need to be inclusive. And I was like, I held up my daughter, who I don't use for political props, but she was just there with me voting. And I said, so if my two-year-old at the time said she wanted to be a boy, you would transition her behind my back. And essentially she said yes. And I was like, evil. That's evil. That's what we're fighting against. People who will say that to your face. I know. This is, I mean, President Trump should bring that up because you know, it's amazing what they'll say to our face. Yeah. And then what they say is a conspiracy theory that they always turn out now to be absolutely accurate. And they eventually admit it. Yes. Okay. Yeah.

that is true. The things that they say to our face are frightening enough. When somebody is unclear with you in this administration, you should be terrified. And I don't know why people continue to listen to liars. You know, Donald Trump exaggerates. He exaggerates. I don't know, I mean, I can't think of anything of any importance that he has exaggerated or lied about. Can you think of anything that he lied about? Well, example, we talked about a couple times when he was saying, no one opposed Roe versus Wade being overturned. Right?

Yeah. Now, what he's talking about there is clearly there were a lot of people on the left legal scholars who did think it was bad law. So he's summarizing a legitimate situation by overstating it. Correct. It's like a general hyperbolic generalization, not a lie. I'm not trying to justify not being precise, but there is a difference. Yeah, there is a difference.

and especially when you know you're lying. You know, it's one thing to say this and then, you know, and he said there are fine people on both sides. No, at this point, you are engaging in evil because you know exactly what you're doing. That is exact opposite of what he said. And they just, I guess people just are, they're either numb to it or they hopefully are waking up

and going, you know what? these people have given me this crap in my home, in my bank account, and in my city, I can't trust them anymore. I don't, I just can't keep doing it. Right. And the, and that obviously Kamala is responsible for her own lies. But the institution that's responsible for allowing her to be a liar is the mainstream media. And that's what I would advise President Trump. He doesn't, he shouldn't come off as a bully. There is the idea that if you have a man and a woman on stage and the man's being very harsh. There are a lot of women who will interpret that as being a bullying demeanor, whether or not it's true. That's simply the reality of how people perceive things.

And so he should say, what does that mean when she says a lie? Because here are the statistics that show that that's not true and say, I don't know why you're telling an untruth except to deceive the American people, but this is why this is a good example of the damage that happens when the mainstream media runs interference for you, because you shouldn't be on the stage if you're not going to tell a truth. But that should have been weeded out years ago by media actually doing their job and asking questions about why you were contradicting your actions. This is the best of the Glenn Beck podcast. It's a compilation of clips from various episodes.

If you want to dig deeper into this interview, check out the full podcast episode. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Pat Gray is joining us now. I like your new backdrop, I guess it is. The screen with the, you're in the cowboy hat and the Western outfit sitting on a horse. Is Doris Kearns Goodwin coming up. It's happening. WN. He's turning into IMS. It's happened in front of our eyes.

Past tense. It's happened. He is Don Imus. I just kept losing weight. He was, I mean, Amis. No,

no. Glenn is actually in the midst of a streak here, which is pretty freaking impressive. How much weight have you lost? Can you talk to them? 52 pounds. What? It's noticeable.

You've lost 52 pounds? Yeah. It's noticeable. Are you doing like, Ozimpec or something? Cocaine. The cocaine is still flowing. I've heard that works.

The cocaine diet. It does. I heard it too for a long time and I'm like, I'm going to give it a whirl. What was the quote from Dennis Quaid in your interview? It was, you know, cocaine is good at first. Then it's good with problems. Then it's just problems. It's a good quote.

It's a good quote. But yeah, the stuff looks good. great here, Glenn. I mean, you look like you'd actually run that horse. I mean, it's not like it's not AI. Those are my cattle. I was driving my cattle on my horse. So it has actually your face on that body?

By the way, Stu, are you changing your name to Charles anytime? Charles McCord? Yes. These old I miss jokes are really so relatable. They're good. Somebody's got to pick up that mantle. It's been gone since 2019. He wasn't. He wasn't a in reference 20 years before he died.

I will tell you that I am going to start opening up the ranch for sick kids. What a nice idea. Glenn, that's really nice. Hey, thank you. See, I say this to my wife, and she's like, that's not nice. And I'm like, what? Of course it is. I bring up sick kids.

We put them to work. Pay him less than minimum wage. We get stuff done. I got a lot of fence to build. Yeah. It's a big property. It's a big property. You need a lot of sick kids to build those fences.

Anyway, anyway. So tonight. So tonight, tonight. The big debate. What do you think? What do you think? What do you think? I just, I hope he sticks to policy.

I hope Donald Trump sticks to policy and tries to pin her down on what was the pivot point for you? You know, the question that you've asked for years. What was your pivot point? Why have you changed on absolutely everything? You stand the opposite policy position on virtually everything you've ever outlined. Where was your pivot point? We don't know that for a fact. She doesn't say it.

The only one she actually said was fracking, right? She said she no longer supports the fracking ban. But everything else, she hasn't. She hasn't come clean up. Well, she did. Yes, there is one other thing, and that's the ban on plastic straws. She apparently has announced she's no longer in favor of the plastic straw. Wait a minute.

She hasn't announced that. That was another statement leaked. Oh, it's just a statement. She hasn't actually said, okay. She hadn't come out and said the straw thing even. Which is... Was it on the website, though? Because some of the stuff has come out on the website.

Yes, he has... You did actually launch a policy page for the first time. Yeah. Which is interesting. By the way, I would... I would vote... I wouldn't vote for anybody who wants paper straws. I don't care if they were...

If it was Ronald Reagan Part 2, I would not vote for... If he was like, I want zero. taxes, but I want paper straws. No, you're not getting my phone. I have to tell you, what do they say? Because like dolphins choke on it or something? No, there's no reason for it.

It's just because they wind up in the ocean. 500 million a day. I don't care. Nine-year-old kid stat. It was legitimately a statistic that came from a child. A child and a book report. A project for school. Sorry, Glencoe.

I just, I mean, I just don't. if you have ever used a paper straw, we celebrated. I used to use them as a kid. Remember? Yes. We had paper straws. We didn't have plastic straws. I thought that was a newfangled thing.

I didn't know. No. They've always been around. Just for different reasons. Yeah. So, because we could, we had to change it because, you know, we're cutting down too many trees with too much plastic. No, they sucked.

That's why. Or didn't suck. You know, they were really, they were very bad. And I got to tell you, I don't care what your reason is. I don't care if. people in Florida are born with plastic straws shooting out of their eyes, I'm good with it. I want my plastic straw. If each plastic straw we used killed a family member of mine, I still want them.

That's where I am on it. Yeah. That is, it's probably my most extreme issue. I hate them. Has there ever been an American citizen that has gotten through one single drink with one of those straws? No. Has it ever occurred?

No. It's always two or three straws because they close up. up. They're the worst. Anyone who would entertain this. It's like, it's disqualifying for you as a leader. So here's, here's what Donald Trump's challenge is tonight, and this apparently is his strategy, is to hold her accountable for everything that is going on. And it's not hard. Listen to this. This is 2021. Listen, that is why also, starting with our administration, we gave TPS temporary protection. status to Haitian migrants, 55,000. And then more recently, we extended temporary protected status to over 100,000 Haitian migrants for that very reason, that they need support, they need protection. Meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow.

I think that's all you should say after that. I don't think that's a good approach. I'm going to go with, yeah. How about, hey, so you're very proud of it. the Haitian immigrant thing. How's that working out, Ohio? I wonder, that's the type of thing I can see

her trying to get him going on. So he says some mistake. Yeah, but there's no defense for, you've got a town of 58,000 people where you dumped 20,000 immigrants into. I don't care where they're from. You can't do that. You can't do that.

Who the hell do these people think they are? How is it that they, how is it that our government just thinks it's okay to take our towns and just change the makeup of it? Overnight. Overnight. It's insanity. By the way, so that was

Kamala in 21. Cut three is J.D. Vance months ago. Chairman Brown, I'd like to ask unanimous consent to submit a letter for the record from the city of Springfield in our state, the southwestern part of our state, which I think highlights a very

real example of this particular concern. straight from the horse's mouth itself and out. Now, this letter I want to quote from it, Springfield has seen a surge in population through immigration that has significantly impacted our ability as a community to produce enough housing opportunities for all. Springfield's Haitian population has increased 15 to 20,000 over the last four years in a community of under 60,000 previous residents,

putting a significant strain on our resources and ability to provide ample housing for all of our residents. And in quote there. And Mike, without objection. Thank you. In my conversations with folks in Springfield, it's not just housing. They're trying to build 5,000 new housing units, which is a very Herculean task in a town of about 55,000 people.

But it's also hospital services, it's school services. There's a whole host of ways in which this immigration problem, I think, is having very real human consequences. Listen to his hatred. I mean, that was from July. That was from July. They've been dumping people into our communities in the middle of the night. they've been flying them in in the middle of the night, dumping them into our communities, changing the culture.

I have to tell you, this isn't racism. I would be pissed off if in my town, what do you think we have in my town? About 20,000, just in my town. Yeah, I don't know. About 20 or 30,000. Do you think less than that? If they took and they added 30% Californians, I'd be pissed. off. Yeah, it changes the political

makeup of your area. It just changes the culture entirely. Yeah. And, you know, for people who grew up in Springfield, I liked my town. Yeah. Yeah, and too, I think even if you added that percentage of people of any sort to

a town that size, it would be dramatic, right? It is. And those numbers are, I mean, I, reading the media coverage on it, they act like all of this is a lie. Like, and there was that video that was put out of all of this is a lie. That's what they say. I mean,

they just keep saying it's just racism. Those people didn't come. They came, but like they're just, you know, they're lying about these cultural changes. I don't care if they're from New York and they're all white people. I don't care. You'll change the makeup of my town.

You'll change the culture. Anybody who is culturally different. And right now, the blue, just the blue and red. You take, would you be fine, New York, if all of a sudden the government just, I mean, we wouldn't do it. It would be a civil war. But they started just importing into your city in, you know, New York City, 30% Texan. Would you be fine with that?

Of course you wouldn't. Of course you wouldn't. Is that make you anti-Texid? Yeah, probably in your case, it does. Does it make me, you know, anti-Californ? California? Yeah. In my case, it does. It's the cultural thing. We don't agree on what the culture should be like. And my problem is, is these people just didn't find their way. It's not like, you know, where do we want to live? I don't know. Let's look around. What fits us? The federal government just dumped these people off into a city. Arbitrarily. Yeah. Why that community? Why? I don't know. They're just changing the. makeup on purpose. Do you remember Michelle Bachman? This is almost 20 years ago saying they're just,

the State Department is just importing all these Somalis into Minnesota. You do remember. And she was called. How's that worked out? Yeah, she's called a racist. Yeah. How is it working out? How is it working out? Not well. No, especially for the cats. Is that even true? Yeah. So it's absolutely true. There was a woman. You sure? Yeah. It got some proof here with this video. of neighbors calling out this woman for, well, eating a cat. What did you do? Why'd you kill the cat? Smile for me.

Go like this. Did you eat that cat? She got cat in her teeth. Did you eat it? No, why'd you kill it? Did you guys see all this? No, we pulled up and she was just laying there with him. Did you see her eating it?

She was eating it? She was eating it? Yes. She was. Can you call the Humane Society? See if they'll come pick those cat up. It's deceased. Well, being eaten, yeah, that tends to.

Yeah, usually. Decease people. In most circumstances. Now, was she crazy? Well, I would guess it would think. Or is it a cultural difference? It might be a little both. Okay.

All right. All right. Now, it does seem that, at least the reporting on this, is that it was a real incident. It was a real person eating a real cat. That's actually part of it. She was not, however, a Haitian immigrant, and it was in Canton, not Springfield, Ohio. Okay. So I don't know that that necessarily makes this all that much better.

Because I don't want to, you know, I think the cat memes they're going around, I think that's just a response to you're importing people who, for instance, Somalis will come in and they stand on the toilet seat and take a crap squatting because that's the way they do it in their country. and they did it so much they had to put signs inside bathroom stalls do not stand on toilet seats sit down okay it's i mean it's just a cultural thing yeah but look i mean any this is happening all over the place they're trying to make it into this racist thing we played what 20 clips yesterday of uh of african americans standing up yelling at their town council saying what is going on yeah who are you to do this. Right.

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