The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Lunden Roberts & Bridget Phetasy | 7/30/24

Episode Date: July 30, 2024

The Left and the media have received their newest talking point: accusing Trump and JD Vance of being "weird." Contributing editor and columnist for the Spectator Bridget Phetasy joins to discuss the condescending rhetoric within the “White Women for Kamala” movement. Lunden Roberts, Hunter Biden’s former girlfriend and mother of his child Navy, joins to discuss her strained relationship with the Biden family, outlined in her upcoming book, "Out of the Shadows," as Biden continues to ignore the existence of his seventh grandchild. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It's a great show. You're going to have a lot of on because it's, frankly, it's weird, and we're weird. You know what I mean? Like J.D. Vance weird. Hey, keep J.D. Vance weird. Sometimes saving lives means spending years in medical school and taking crippling, you know, student loans and, you know, I don't believe in college, the universities anymore. Well, I don't really either, but if you want to be a doctor, you should probably, you know, get a good education on that one before you cut me up. Anyway, um, you, there are other ways to save lives that don't require you to take on all kinds of education and loans,

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Pound 250, keyword baby. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. What a weird day. It is so weird. These Republicans, have you noticed their policies? They're so weird. I have. They're weird.

You know, in fact, I have a, you know, You know what's really weird? Is this montage put together that shows all of everybody in the media and everybody on the left, suddenly calling J.D. Vance weird. Here it is. Some of what he and his running mate are saying, well, it's just plain weird. These guys are just weird. That's where they are. As weird and creepy as J.D. Vance.

Super weird idea from J.D. Vance. Yeah, it's not. I mean, it's quite weird. They're just plain weird. Just plain weird. Just plain weird. That stuff is weird. They come across weird and then they start being weird.

Yeah, they're weird. Being a really weird. He's such a weirdo. Donald Trump and his weirdo running mate. They're weird. Deeply and profoundly weird. They are weird. These Republicans just being weird.

It's just weird. It's really weird. Publican weirdness goes even deeper. He said a lot of things that are weird. A weird style that he brings. Weird policies. We'll start with the weird thing. weird thing because it is a thing.

Just plain weird. What was weird was talking about Diet Mountain Dew. Who drinks Diet Mountain Dew? Who ever seen the guy laugh? That seems very weird to me that an adult can go through six and a half years of being in the public eye. If he has laughed, it's at someone, not with someone. That is weird

behavior. Wow. Wow. Who's writing the memos? This is unbelievable coordination. I mean, I stand in awe. at the system the left has built to where they can get everyone to walk in lockstep overnight. Kamala Harris is horrible. She's the worst vice president.

She is hated by everybody. She can't keep anybody on her staff. She is unlikable, unworkable. She's not the replacement overnight. She's a genius. She's a genius. You don't. know how great she is. Did you know that, I mean, far from being very, very, very busy

helping the president run the country every day. She's also a marvelous cook. There's a story out in the, I think it's in the New York Times today about what a health addict she is. And her, I mean, you have to see her exercise routine. It is unbelievable. They're all in lockstep. and I know that this is true. We know this is the way it works, but it is awesome in its weirdness, creepiness, and quite honestly Orwellian way

to watch this happen in real time. Now, let me tell you what I think they're doing. I think that they are very wisely changing the tone of the conversation. And they're going with Kamala's weird laugh. Isn't that great? He's just weird. And they're trying to change the tone from a grumpy old man, you're a danger to the democracy.

It's just weird, isn't it? They're just weird. They are trying to soften themselves from the possibility of being a fascist dictator to just somebody like you that just looks at things and goes, that's weird, isn't it? Now, you may not do that, but they're also trying to make it a campaign

for the younger set. you know those people that are well weirdly younger i wouldn't uh i would not dismiss what they're doing right now i think this is a this coupled with uh black women or white women for kamala black men for kamala uh you know one-legged Asians for Kamala. I just, I don't get it. Until you start to think, perhaps, perhaps they are softening things by almost mocking themselves. That's the way. They're not.

But I think they are trying to appear as though it's all tongue and cheek. I think it's a good strategy if that's what they're doing. but it is it's awesome in its evilness to watch it does seem like something like the white dudes for Kamala is a little bit

tongue and cheek they do seem to be playing that up a little bit but I think they're going to be the party of fun yeah they're going to be a party of fun remember she said and we're going to have a lot of fun with this aren't we Barack we're going to have a lot of fun with this

it's interesting that you bring this up because I had the same sort of thought yesterday as I was watching all this, you know, the weird coverage. And I think we're probably in the minority. And I think that most people just look at this on the right and just like, okay, they're just trying this crazy stuff. The only reason I would say it's notable is that they've tried the same tactic on Donald Trump for so long that it's like global warming, increasing levels of doom.

Right. Every time you talk about Donald Trump, he's a fascist. He's a dictator. He's Hitler. he's going to stop democracy and they just keep escalate. Oh, it's Handmaid's Tale. And they've tried that so many times this one note strategy against him that I think trying anything different is probably wise for them.

What they do now and it doesn't work and Trump knows how to respond to it. This is a little bit different and so far like it's been basically J.D. Vance on his heels saying I'm not weird. I swear I like children. I like my kids. And it's like, oh, well, that's crazy. It's weird. I mean, that's nonsense, especially with the stuff that they promote.

Obviously, it's crazy. But at least maybe is a little bit of a change-up from what they've done every other day for the past five years. Yeah, because what you are doing is you're forcing the right into a schoolmarm position. Oh, is that weird that we like children, that we think families are good? Well, you know what's weird? is the Paris Olympics with testicles popping out everywhere. And it is weird. And you sound, even though you're accurate, you sound like the school marm.

The happy warrior wins. I think that's their strategy. Right. I think it could pay off. And it's a little bit of, again, I don't know that it works. Remember, this is a party that's losing. Right. So trying something different is what you do in these moments.

I know. And so I'm just trying, I don't want to oversell it like this is some brilliant strategy. I'm just saying that changing here is probably wise. Not to mention, it's one of those things you've talked about a million times, Glenn, of making your weakness your strength. They are weird. What they want is weird. It's a very good descriptor of what they're trying to do to this country. It is very weird.

It is very strange. But they're saying it in a way to disarm the attack against them. Everyone knows the fact that we just had a presidential campaign. campaign launch on Rupal's drag race is weird. That's weird. Having, pulling, taking the candidate who won the nomination and replacing him three months before an election is weird. All that stuff is weird.

But they're almost using this in a way to, is that how you see it? Do you think they're trying to disarm the attack that's obviously more applicable to them? Yes. This isn't normal. This is weird. You know this is weird. This has not happened before. It's none of this is normal.

And so they immediately turn and go, you know, he's weird. He's really weird. Have you heard what they're saying? They're weird. And they are bringing the temperature down. They are seeming like the fun people that they are because she didn't really talk about anything. She didn't know what she said.

You know, the Venn diagrams. We're just having fun with this. That's all we're doing. We're just like you. That's what's happening. And it's incredible. If that's what they're doing, I think it's brilliant. And dangerous for the Republic, because she is weird.

She is not normal. She is not a traditional candidate. is no way that Kamala Harris could ever become president unless you took her as the most unpopular candidate in the race and you put her as the vice president and then you had some guy who was so wildly incompetent and and so dangerous for the country that you put her in and you put her in the last minute before anybody can really talk to her again and refresh everybody's mind who she is, give her very little rope. She's got a very little time to offend everybody and to do anything but a soft shoe dance. That's the only way you get her in as president. No one, no Democrat would

elect her if it started back last year and she had debates. It would never work. And now you're going to be able to have the most. She is more progressive than Barack Obama. I don't think she's more progressive than Big Mike, but she's much more progressive than Barack Obama. She believes it to the core of her being. And she is, she was raised by Berkeley professors. You know what's weird? That's weird. The only way you can get her in is in a very short time period, have her come in when it's an emergency and everybody has to agree with her, make sure that you got the press in lockstep,

and we're just having fun with this. You don't take that seriously. Like, oh, I'm going to do that. Dangerous. Very dangerous for our side. and I'm not saying she's going to win. I'm saying don't take this lightly. It's a real threat to not only the candidacy but also the country. What happened with the GOP convention?

Why did everybody feel so good after that? Because it was happy and joyful. And that's something we haven't felt in a long time. we're used to people saying the worst things about one another. When they come out with something like weird, that's just weird. That's not offensive at all. And you can kind of laugh about that. It is kind of weird, isn't it?

You know, I don't think I can vote for them because that is weird, but you're just so much like me. Let me tell you about our sponsor for The Blaze. It is my Patriot Supply. Something is coming. God-given freedoms are up for the taking. If you watch the Olympics, I don't know how much longer God can stay his hand, but maybe that's just me. They have been trying to make you feel worthless. They've been trying to make you feel like you're a criminal. They've been trying to make you feel like you can't do anything. Let me tell you something. You take your own family into your own hands.

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Here's white women for Kamala, cut one, about women's privilege. White women. I mean, here we are. have to admit when I was writing stuff down, I was like, Karen's for Kamala? I don't know. You know, why is it so difficult, as Glennon was saying, to acknowledge and address ourselves as white women. But here we are. And I am so proud for all of us to be together as women, as white women, we are the ones that have the privilege, of course. And we, too, have had to fight and continue to fight for our equality, our selfhood, our freedom. But,

But we have whatever privileges, our male, white male counterparts have had the mercy and good sense to bestow on us. And then whatever else of it, we have managed to take for ourselves, often being led by, as many have said earlier tonight, the leadership of our sisters of color who have fought and fought and continue to fight for their righteous place on God's green earth. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so white women have the privilege. They're now apparently the ruling class, I think. I think that's what she was saying. And they wanted to make it very clear when they started this Zoom call.

One of the influencers really wanted to make sure that nobody makes any mistakes on this phone call, cut four. I'm going to share some do's and don'ts for getting involved in politics online. Don't make it about yourself. As white women, we need to use our privilege to make positive changes. If you find yourself talking over or speaking for BIPOC individuals or, God forbid, correcting them, just take a beat. And instead, we can put our listening ears on. So do learn from and amplify the voices of those who have been historically marginalized and use the privilege you have in order to push for systemic change. As white people, we have a lot of. to learn and unlearn. So do check your blind spots. Okay. All right. Well, let's, let's bring on Bridget Fetty. And please, please check your blind spot, Bridget, if you will, please. Please acknowledge that I'm the most powerful person on this call right now. Yeah, you are. You have all the white women privilege. And you're, you really are going to be,

the one that turns this whole thing around, you white women. Glenn, do you understand that it is up to me and my people to save the world? Literally save the world. It is up to us. If we don't get it together, the world will end.

Yeah. They said that. I know you're, you know that. They said that yesterday. That is up to the white women. Oh my gosh. Do women I mean, are there a lot of women that think this way that are like fine with, you know what, I just have, I have so much to learn and so little to say and so much to unlearn. But I'm the most powerful person here.

What are you talking about? Oh, my gosh. It's such a weird, humble brag in a strange way. It's like at the same time you're saying you are, you know, know, I was saying this yesterday to you, actually, in talking to my friends about this. You have to have the worldview. You have to start with the premise that it is actually white supremacy. You have to believe you are better than everyone else and that it is up to you to lift up

up all of these people, these poor people who can't help themselves and speak to everybody like their toddlers. We need to put our listening ears on and talk to all. Like, it's insanity, but I do think it's a way for people, I mean, what is more important than saving the world while also somehow humbling yourself and recognizing your privilege? It's still all ego. It's so gross. It's so gross. Is this popular? Is this going to work, Bridget? I mean, I don't know. It's weird. It's like I went off line for a couple days just to take a break from mainlining X. And I came back on and it was like 2016 with flavors of 2020 all over again. And this didn't, it didn't work in 2016. You know, all of this like they, I feel like, oh, we're just going to run a very unlikable politician that people have openly said they don't like.

We're going to astroturf the entire media with, oh, look at how cool this person is with celebrities and white dudes for Harris and white women for Kamala. Weird, weird Zoom calls. We're going to make it seem like this is all very popular, except it's not. And then they're going to be out marching in their knitted pink hats, you know, the day after the election. I don't think this feels like it feels like I don't know. It feels manufactured to me, all of that. Okay, so let me ask you this. You heard that everybody's now calling Trump and J.D. Vance weird.

And I think it's weird that everybody started saying it at the same time. And I think, Bridget, that this is a, this is a, the new strategy where he was a danger to the republic. People are so sick and tired of hearing all of this. And they just want somebody just to be normal with them. And so I think it's a way to have, you know, Donald Trump or whoever say, the woman is a socialist. And then they go, you know, they're just weird.

They're just weird. I mean, I'm more like you. We're just laughing it off. That seems to me to be a dangerous strategy. for the right. I'm, I'm obsessed with this weird thing this morning. I was going down all these rabbit holes for numerous reasons.

One, it's clearly like the memo went out, and this is, you know, blatant astroturfing. Then there's the strange weaponization of the word weird by a party that has generally, that has been cool-coded. It's been Lady Gaga was weird and her little monsters, And this was something that was always very left-wing dominated. We're going to make weird cool.

So they were the ones who said, no, you can't use weird. But then there was all this language of ableism that came out. And you couldn't say crazy. And you couldn't say insane. And I was looking at all the lists this morning. And weird is either it's been retroactively removed, which I wouldn't be surprised. But it might have been the one word that they were like, hey, what can we call him that we're not going to get yelled at for and weird isn't on any of these lists strangely and as i was talking to

my editor at the spectator about we were texting and he was saying you know to win the general you have to seem normal and it's whoever is normal and now they've made weird this you know creepy like one step away from creepy but i don't know if you should be doing that if you have guys like sam britton and rachel levin on your side I mean, you can't, that seems like a bad idea for the left to make weird one step away from creepy because they have way more weird people that represent them than I would say the mainstream right wing. If I may, however, you know, it's always the happy warrior that America wants to be with. And so if they are, if they are seen as almost mocking themselves, you know, Karen's for Kamala. And they're not taking themselves so seriously, even though on the call they took themselves like godlike seriously.

And they're calling them weird. And then you say, really? That's weird? How about the dude that's stealing women's suitcases that you had watching over our nukes? And then their response is, see, I mean, you're just bigoted in hatred, full of hatred. I mean, you're weird, but you're also bigoted. And we just have it. I keep coming back to what she said at the very end of that phone call with Barack and Michelle, or Big Mike.

She said, and we're going to have a lot of fun with this, aren't we? and it was so fake, but I think that's what they're going for. I think they're just going to just laugh their way through this. It's just going to be fun. We're just going to have fun. I think they realized a couple of things, which is smart of them to course correct. They seem to have leaned back into, okay, America isn't horrible like we've been saying and preaching in academia, and we're going to reembrace the American flag.

They seem to have been saying, like, they realize, you know, the BRNC for whatever, you know, idiocracy it might have seemed like. It was fun. It was like people having fun. And I was saying this on Twitter. They're like, oh, look what they're projecting. I'm like, they're projecting fun. This thing that Americans like to have and generally have. And I think they're realizing they're not seen as the fun party. they're seen as the scolds now and the pearl flutters and the authoritarian who are checking everyone's language. And so I don't know.

They're not going to be able. That's not, you can't be, you can't say this is a weird paradox. You can't say this is the end of democracy. And oh, look how weird J.D. Vance is. That doesn't, it doesn't carry this. They're trying to like walk this tightrope. and I don't think they're going to be able to do it. You can't be calling everybody bigoted and racist

and that this is a fascist takeover of America and then be like, look at how weird he is, yaka, yaka, yaka, it's not, it's like weird. That's weird. Yes. It is awfully strange. However, it might work for a limited time. You know, that was,

was the thing that I think the GOP had going for this year was it was full of joy and it was fun and you know it was like a respite from the end of the world and it was still serious had it serious moments when it needed to be but it was fun and I think that's what gave the wind in the sales of the Republicans in Donald Trump and I think that's what they're going for I could be wrong. This is the best of the Glenn Beck podcast. To hear more of this interview, check out the full episode, anywhere podcasts are found. Welcome to the program, London Roberts, the author of Out of the Shadows, a new book about her relationship with the president's son and having the granddaughter that the president's family doesn't seem to want to recognize. I just want to give you her bio here because

I've never heard anything like this from the media. London Roberts is a mother, an author, and a financial officer, and a financial officer from Batesville, Arkansas. Her all-star basketball career culminated at Arkansas State University, where she was a McDonald's All-American nominee shooting guard. She also studied criminal justice and psychology. She went on to Washington, D.C. for the most prestigious C.S.I. training in the country. That's where she met and began a relationship with Hunter Biden. She

served as Biden's executive assistant at Rosemont Seneca and other business entities. Now serves as the financial controller for her family-owned business, Rob Roberts' custom gunworks. She is the mother of Navy, President Biden's seventh grandchild. She is in the process of launching a new fashion line, serves as an advocate for women in unplanned pregnancies. Welcome, London, How are you? Hi, I'm good. Gwen, how are you? Very good.

Why is it the press has made you into just a stripper? You know, I'm not so sure. I've sat back and, you know, allowed whatever narrative to be thrown my way. And, you know, it seemed that, you know, everyone had a different narrative than what the truth was. and so were you ever a stripper well you know in in the book out of the shadow

that I talk about living in D.C. And I talk about you know there's a chapter called On the Pole and you know what that consists of I would love people to buy it and read that part for themselves because the media has put so much of a narrative around that part and that part plays

That's a little role in the actual truth and the story of everything that actually happened. And, you know, I didn't meet him at the club. You did not meet him at the club. I did not meet him at a strip club. I met Hunter through a mutual friend that had invited me to go to, like, I say an after party, but it really wasn't a party. It was just some people hanging out, having drinks, and just talking. and it wasn't like your college after party, but it was actually held at Rosemont, Simica, which was Hunter's firm, and at the House of Sweden.

And I actually met him that night and got to know him over. And how did you become his executive assistant? So I got to know him after that night. I stayed up. I talk about, you know, that encounter and finding out who he was and seeing this demon that he was battling and having this empathy for him. and, you know, a relationship developed, and I begin to care for him, and I begin to fall in love with him. And, you know, it developed for over a year.

There would be times where, you know, I talk about throughout the book, even Hallie, his sister-in-law confided in me and said, you know, Hunter trusts you. And that's something that, you know, is hard to come by. Like, he doesn't trust a whole lot of people. And, you know, we developed this friendship, you know, and then it led on into, you know, a relationship. and then, you know, I start working for him, and I talk about how, you know, I start doing like little ins and out, like executive assistant type work where I'm doing, like, running errands for him and things to that nature. And then I'm like meeting Katie Dodge, his other assistant at the office to go over and, you know,

help, like she's showing me how, you know, to pay the bills to do all this other stuff, moving his stuff. You know, he had just gone through a divorce, moving furniture, to storage units and to the house and stuff like that. So, you know, I was, it developed over time. I didn't immediately become his assistant, but, you know, over time when our relationship developed and this friendship developed and we begin to get closer

as what I thought, then, you know, he wanted me to be his assistant. And so I hopped on board and thought that was, you know, such a great idea. And I ended up in the situation I'm in today. So did you know the side of Hunter Biden that we now know because of the laptop? I would say yes and no, because, you know, Hunter, of course, as he's been candid about, and as we see from the laptop, was in a really dark place. And he was battling addiction. And the first few chapters of the book, you know, I explained meeting him and caring for him and loving him.

And, you know, I think anybody that has loved or cared for someone that's suffering from addiction can resonate with that part of the book because it's hard. You feel like, you know, you're enabling and you're not, you know, doing your part like you should have to, you know, help him get that change. You know, there was even one chapter that, you know, I talk about. I thought Hunter's life was going to end that night. He had consumed so many drugs and he was the worst day I'd ever seen him. You know, he found his way to me because he knew that I'd take care of him, and I did. I sat there with the phone in my hand that entire night, wondering, you know, listening to his breathing and crying and praying and wondering, you know, should I call 911?

But if I do, and I call the ambulance and get them here, yes, I save his life. But I knew Hunter well enough to know that he hated being the black sheep of his family. And that's what he felt like. He felt like he was constantly a disappointment and his scandal-plagued son, you know. and so I knew that if I did that, then he would hate me forever and never speak to me again. So I sit there and I monitored his breathing the entire night. I got him water. I tried to, you know, make him drink it.

And, you know, there are some dark times and there are some dark chapters that bring out that place that he was in during that time. But, you know, there's also some chapters that show the good that was in him, too, the good that I saw, the good that I fell in love with. You know, I may have been young and dumb and naive, but there was a good side to him that I've seen and that I fell in love with. Do you still love him? No, I'll always care about Hunter because, you know, he blessed me with the greatest blessing I could have ever asked for, and that was my daughter. But, you know, I talk about the last time I felt like I was in love with him is around pregnancy time. You know, I was, that's when our relationship ended. And he said that he was going to be there for me.

And I scheduled a sonogram to hear the baby's heartbeat for the first time. And I scheduled it in Annapolis because that's where his house was at the time that he was staying in. So I wanted to make it easier for him. And he actually didn't show up. And I listened to our baby's heartbeat alone. And every sonogram after that, I went to alone. And, you know, that you'll fall out of love when you go through. through something like that.

And, you know, you drove yourself to the hospital to give birth alone an hour and a half, if I'm not mistaken. In labor. I drove to the hospital after my water broke. I drove to all my appointments. I went in to, you know, I went in the back. I did all the sonogram. I did the whole pregnancy thing alone.

And I blamed him for a long time because I felt like he put me in such a dark place. where I contemplated taking my own life. But, you know, I talk about how, you know, I have to be, I'm accountable for my own feelings and getting myself in that dark place, even though he didn't show up and he didn't do his part. It's still, you know, mental health is still on me. And that was, you know, a hold that I had to dig myself out of. And, you know, I talk about the faith of a mustard seed

and the maternal instinct and mother's love that I have for my daughter is what got me out of that dark place. and, you know, allowed me to stand here today and tell my story. So why won't they recognize Navy? You know, that's something I just, I don't know. I've never been able to answer that question because I can't imagine how embracing a child would hurt anyone's image. I think it would be a feather in their cap to, you know, acknowledge a child and love one. I don't understand.

You talk in the book about this time when you guys, you and Navy, you're in the nail salon, and she sees Grandpa up on TV and she says, that's my grandpa. And you say, keep your voice down, but yes, it is. And you have a conversation with her that he's very busy right now, but when he's done, he's going to come and see her. Do you believe that? She's actually the one that says, you know, when I have a conversation with her. Oh, she says that. Yes, when I have the conversation with her, you know, she wants to know she's getting to that age or she had gotten to that age where she's like, you know, so-and-so has a mom and dad, and I only have a mom.

And so another person has a mom and dad. I only have a mom. Do I not have a dad? And so I tell her, you know, I talk about I want her to be resilient. I want her to be open-minded. I want her to have grace. I want her to have forgiveness in her heart, even to people who might not deserve it or ask for it. And, you know, I talk about being open with her.

And just telling her, yes, you know, you do have a dad. And, well, what's his name? You know, and she wants to see him, and I show her a picture. And I talk about how I just tell her. I don't know what to tell her, you know, because she's too young to comprehend just everything. And so I tell her, you know, that her dad's a really busy man. He lives far away because she wants to know, why doesn't my dad come visit me? And so I make excuses.

And I tell her that, you know, he's a busy man. lives far away, and then, you know, I tell her what her grandfather does. And she says, oh, so that's why they don't come to visit me because he's out helping other people because I tell her the role that he plays with, you know, being the leader of the free world. Yeah. And she says, oh, so that's why he don't come to see me because he's out visiting or he's out helping other people, but when he's done helping them, then he'll come see me, right?

And I'm like, I can only hope so, says, you know, I don't have an answer for that. And I don't. And I've said from the beginning, you know, I'll be open with Navy as open as I possibly can. And someday, if she hates that side of the family, it will be because of their actions and what they did and didn't do. It won't be because of me. I won't instill that hatred in her heart. I don't want her to carry that hatred in her heart. But someday, she's going to feel that hatred.

And, you know, that's a burden that I hope. That will be for her to find and discover. You're doing the right thing, I think. Don't ever do anything but say the truth and the good things that you remember. Let her find everything else herself. She'll find the truth eventually. It's good to talk to you. And our sympathy is with Navy.

I think most Americans, Democrats and Republicans, think this is insanity the way this whole thing has been handled. And I worry about her future, as I think many Americans do. London, thank you. I worry. Out of the Shadows is the name of the book, Out of the Shadows by London Roberts, the author and the mother of Navy, the seventh grandchild of the president of the United States. It's never too early to plan your summer story in Europe with WestJet, from rolling countryside to cobblestone streets.

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