The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Michael Malice & Ben Weingarten | 1/7/22

Episode Date: January 7, 2022

BlazeTV host Mark Levin joins to compliment Glenn on his wardrobe and discuss the hypocrisy of President Biden’s statements about January 6. Bill O'Reilly joins for his weekly news recap, discussing President Trump’s possible re-election and COVID. Author and podcaster Michael Malice joins Glenn to discuss Glenn’s painting, media manipulation, and President Trump. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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to the world entire. Trouve of little enterprises like the other on our own.com. Welcome to the podcast. What a show today. Very, we had some, we had a surprised guest today,

calling out of nowhere, the one the only Mark Levine, author of the number one book in America for 2021, without any press. help nothing no no today show interviews for mark levin and still had the number one book in america we'll talk to him uh kind of on a surprise whim today but it was a fun conversation with mark and glen bill o'reilly joins us as well he's on the program michael malice is on the program

as well ben weingarten has a new study out comparing january 6th to summer 2020 and the george floyd riots what were the scale of these two events that is amazing as well it's all coming on the podcast. Make sure you subscribe, rate and review this podcast. Five stars is the appropriate number of stars in case you were wondering. Also, click on over to Stu Does America. That podcast is available every day right here on this platform. Please rate and review that one as well. And subscribe, check it out. It's more good content for you. We give you the content. We try to make you happy. We do what we can every single day. Check about Stu Does America and the Glenn Beck program. Glenn is going to, you'll notice his voice is a little scratchy today. He,

does have COVID. He's recovering at home and doing well. He is on the show today, but his voice is a little scratchy. He won't be doing his normal Friday show on Blaze TV, but you can get that usually every Friday. BlazeTV.com slash Glenn promo code is Glenn. Here's the podcast. You're listening to the best of the Glenn. Mark Levine calling in. Hello, Mark. Is this Glenn Beck? Is this Mark Levine? Glenn, I just wanted to say. I just felt. compelled to call you and tell you, you are the number one person in radio when it comes to wardrobes. I want to tell you something. This wardrobe and thing today is absolutely a fan. Yeah, I'm a sharp dresser, am I? You're obviously, you're obviously watching the show this morning.

Yeah. Because I'm wearing a Mark Levin. Yeah. I'm especially watching. watching your left part of your breast there. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, my eyes are up here, buddy. My eyes are up here. How are you, Mark? Where they belong. I'm good. How are you, buddy? Uh, you know, frustrated, but you know that. You know that very well. I'm doing great, but the country's gone to hell, so that's a problem. I know, I know. Yeah. Good to talk to you, and thank you. Well, you know, June 6th is very, very important, uh, January rather, excuse me.

January 6th is a very, very important day. It's the day I really celebrate to hate the left, hate them more than I usually do. And I thought January 6th, we should recognize as the day that murder has gone through the roof thanks to Democrat policies. I really think we ought to turn January 6th into an anniversary. And isn't that sick, the two realities we have, the real one where people live, and then this thing? phony collaboration with the media and the Democrats. It's like two damn different worlds, isn't it? Yeah, it is.

And, you know, the media has gone from fake to knowingly, knowingly lying and obstructing. They really are, and I hated this when Donald Trump said it the first time, but they really had become the animity of the people. I mean, this January 6th thing is total nonsense, total nonsense. Well, they've destroyed the free prince. I mean, when you watch this guy who tricked Todd with this haircut, like Eddie Munster, whatever they do, they put like a spaghetti stringer on his head, and then they take a razor.

I don't know what they do with this guy. But the dumbest low IQ guy, and there he is all over NBC. And then they have George Stephanopoulos, who is a complete joke. I mean, everybody knows. He used to, you know, attack women. and now there he is at ABC and look what's going on. Just a second.

Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark. Mark. Mark. Hang on just a second. Stu, can you get the producers on the phone and see if we can move Stuart Scheller to next hour? Because, I mean, I don't want to cheat steward of time. And I also don't want to cut Mark off because, yes, we'll do.

You know, Mark is crankier than I am. And that's saying something today. I was just calling about his life. Bruce. And I don't know what's going on now. I know, I know. So did you see Kamala Harris yesterday? As soon as she came on, I shut it off.

She is so unlikable. Just absolutely unlikable. You know, if somebody has the worst voice in radio that would be neat, her voice. I listen to her voice and I can't stand it. You know, and you know she's such a phony. And it's just unbelievable. To compare this to Pearl Harbor and 9-11 and stuff like that is absolutely unbelievable. It's outrageous.

The people who died, the families and so forth, and as you know, and I'm sure you've said it, the only person who died that day was in his patriot who was shot dead. But the same people who celebrated the riots, the same people who celebrate Black Lives Matter and all, we don't need lessons from them. This whole thing is kind of a cover-up for political. Pelosi, who didn't do what she should have done to protect that capital building. And have you ever seen a more repugnant and repulsive person than Liz Cheney? Seriously.

I just, just grotesque. The Bushes, the... Let me... I don't come on until six, you say. Yeah. I know. You got a long way to go, brother. Let me play something here for you.

This is from Biden's speech yesterday. Oh, my God. Yeah. Can you play the part where... you know, just because you lose? The former President of the United States of America has created and spread a web of lies about the 2020 election.

He's done so because he values power over principle because he sees his own interest as more important than his country's interest than America's interest. And because his bruised ego matters more to him than our democracy or our Constitution. He can't accept he lost.

He can't accept that he lost. Please play cut five for me, please. Here are the Democrats. Yes or no, do you still maintain the 2018 election was stolen? That's your language. My full language was that it was stolen from the voters of Georgia. We do not know what they would have done because not every eligible Georgian was permitted to participate fully in the election.

And you know this. If Catherine Harris, Jeb Bush, Jim Baker, and the Supreme Court hadn't tampered with the results, Al Gore would be president. George Bush would be back in Austin. I don't see this. President-elect as a legitimate president. You do not consider him a legitimate president. And Al Gore and Joe Lieberman got 547,000 more votes than George Bush did for president. United States. Folks, you know it, I know it, they know it, we won that election.

I believe he knows he's an illegitimate president. He knows. He knows that there were a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out the way it did. Let's go back to Florida. We actually won the last presidential election, folks. They stole the last presidential election. I think it's also critical to understand that as i've been telling candidates who have come to see me you can run the best campaign you can even become the nominee and you can have the election stolen from you was president george bush

legitimately elected without voter suppression stacy abrams would be the governor of georgia they they cannot handle losing a single time a single time a single single time. And they're now blaming insurrection on this president questioning the outcome. There's no question about it. And you know, when there are people blew up the Capitol building in 1954, Jimmy Carter ultimately pardon them. And whether on the ground blew it up in 1971, Clinton ultimately pardoned them. And one of the ringleaders was Obama's buddy, Dallaires. And they attacked the Pentagon and blew that up. Then they blew up the State Department.

then they circled back in 1983 and hit the Capitol building again. Really, January 6th is their May 1. It's their May Day. That's what we're dealing with here as far as I'm concerned. Of course, these are liars. These are hypocrites. They do this sort of thing. The biggest problem we have is the greatest enemy we have in this country is the Democrat Party.

Whether it's slavery or segregation or Jim Crow, and now it's quote-unquote democratic socialism. They never embrace Americanism. This party has been a, poison, a cancer on the groin of American politics, really. And you see the reprobates that lead at Biden. Biden is a nasty man. He joined in with the segregationist when he got elected. Then he tried to destroy Clarence Thomas. He tried to destroy Bob. This is a mean, nasty guy. Kamala Harris is as stupid as she seems, to be perfectly honest about it. And then you have Nancy Pelosi. I call her Eva Pelosi.

because she called those brave federal law enforcement men and women who were trying to protect the federal courthouse in Portland stormtroopers. Now, of course, she loves only law enforcement that protects her. But we could go on and all with this. They're so corrupt, the media corrupt. These people are going to look at Chuck Todd. His wife is a Democrat. He worked for Harkin. George Stephanovilles with Clinton.

You could go right down the line, the incestuous relationship between the press and the Democrat part, you can't tell the difference between their propaganda ever. And I'd love to see their text and emails. They're so worried about Hannity's. Can you imagine, can you imagine the text and emails between people at CNN and MSNBC and Democrats with Capitol Hill? Oh, yeah. Let me ask you this. I just didn't.

I love that sweatshirt you're wearing. Yeah. You think you can get that at Blaze merch. I think you can get that. What's the address where you can get this wonderful? I don't really know. I get it for free. What the hell of mine?

Yeah. I got mine for free too. I love it, Mark. I wear it all the time. Let me ask you this. I just did an interview with... Not on me. Go ahead.

I'm sorry. I just did an interview with Donald Trump. In my mind, there is absolutely no doubt he is running again. What are your thoughts on him running? Is it the same kind of outcome? Who do they have to run against him? Well, they're worried about him running again. That's what this is all about.

Obviously, exactly right. But they fear him more than anybody else. The rhinos, the never-Trumpers fear him more than anybody else. We have a very good team. I mean, you've got a lot of people. You've got DeSantis and others right behind him. But this is 43 years old. You've got others.

But, you know, when you look at his presidency, it was an enormously effective presidency. You know, you and I back Ted Cruz early on, and then after the nomination, we supported Donald Trump. And Donald Trump has been a far more conservative president than either of the Bushes, than either than the rhinos would ever want him to be. And I've come to really like the man personally. You've met him. He's very charismatic.

He's a very nice man, kind man. They'll never show you that side of him because they attack, attack, attack. The thing is, and everybody knows it, look what they did with the FBI, the FISA court, the intelligence agencies, criminal. these criminal investigations. We have never seen anything like this before. And now the big lie, January 6th, I can tell you, they don't want to talk about what happened in the 2020 election. You're only allowed to talk about what they want you to talk about.

We'll talk about whatever the hell we want to. And I have to tell you, Mark. Yeah. Go ahead. No, go ahead. I'm rambling, I know. But even putting aside the ballots and the machines, I can tell you, in Pennsylvania, they violated the federal constitution. And my wife was involved in that litigation.

They violated the federal constitution. We stood for the Constitution in the United States. These Democrats, their lawyers were all over the country, particularly in these battleground states, changing the rules through their Democrat elected judges, through their Democrat governors, overturning what Republican state legislatures were doing, which is a violation of the federal constitution,

in order to set the groundwork for Biden. And we're not even allowed to talk about it. And so when these Republican legislatures, 19 of them so far, have said, I'm going to fix this. not to change the outcome of elections, but to get them back where they can actually be monitored, Jim Crow and all the rest. I mean, tens of millions of people, they are sick of this, they are fed up with the drama that the press creates and the Democrat Party creates.

These are the same people who have lied to us over and over again about everything. Mark Levin. Mark Levin, thanks for calling in, man. Really appreciate it. By the way, watch my special, I think you have a subscription to Blaze TV. Watch the interview I did with Donald Trump about halfway through. I ask him about cleaning out all of the agencies and shutting down the Department of Ed. It's really telling.

You should really listen to that because I think that's what needs to be done. All these things just need to be cleaned out or shut down. Mark, last thing. Congratulations on the number one book of the year. year. I don't know of a conservative that has ever done that. I couldn't be happier for you. Tremendous book. And thank you, thank you. And you were a big help, and it is a great honor. And I want to thank you for all you do with this country, too, man. Really? You're just terrific. So you have a good day. Same with Stu. All right. You too. God bless.

God bless you. Thanks. Mark Levin. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Mr. Bill O'Reilly is with us now. Hello, Bill. How is your holiday, sir? Oh, you're talking to me? You're talking to me, back? Unless I have another Bill O'Reilly. I don't know.

You got 55,000 people on the show. I got a sweatshirt. I got a sweatshirt. Okay? Do you? If I send it when you wear it? Okay, I know I'm going to have to send it to extra, extra, extra large. I'll get it.

Whoa. That's obviously a fat joke. Here I am, possibly on my deathbed, possibly on my deathbed with a bout of COVID. And I'm still in here slugging away for America. And you come with a fat joke. Wow. That hurts deeply. I feel your pain, even though I don't have COVID because I don't go out of the basement.

I live in the basement. And I'm not going out. I'm not going out for another two years. But I feel your pain back. So I hope you get better. I will tell you this. Look, I had COVID before there was a vaccine, so I've been on the natural antibodies. Yeah.

And I just had an antibody test a couple of weeks ago. And I have it now. Again, this is the second time. But honestly, it's really not that big of a deal. It wiped me out the first time for about three weeks. I've had it since Wednesday, and I'm already on the rebound. And I can't get any, you know, can't get any kind of therapeutics because we either don't have any. or they can't come to Texas or my doctors are too afraid because the the medical association is manhandling all of our doctors.

But I'm making it, Bill. I'm making it. I'm glad to hear that, Beck. But I'm sorry that your antibodies betrayed you. But my only one question, I think your listeners have this question too. Do you like hang out with COVID-infected people? Do you like go to a club and we all have COVID? Is that twice?

Twice? I had it before there was a vaccine. I had it before there was a vaccine. And so I got it early. Can I make a suggestion? After you're better, which will be soon, I think you should walk around carrying a little bell like they used to do with leprosy. Just and wherever you are, just ring the barrels of people.

Oh, there he comes. There's Typhoid Beck. Bill, I just did an interview with Donald Trump. It aired yesterday. He was exceptional. He wasn't wallowing in the past, wasn't really talking about the past. I got in all kinds of heat for it because I didn't ask him a January 6th question. You know, I asked him things that I think the average person care about.

Gas prices, inflation, communists in every department. Anyway, but I was really, I was really. impressed and I was left without a shadow of a doubt that he intends on running. Oh, and now with the attack yesterday by Biden, it's really personal now. See, if you do that to Donald Trump, if you go out of your way to try to humiliate him and marginalize him, which is exactly what Biden did for his whole speech yesterday, and people should really understand what that was about. It wasn't about bringing the nation together and saying, hey, all sane people realize we cannot have this ever again.

Everybody should condemn it. No. It was, he did it. Look at him. He did it. So what good is that do? We all know that Biden and the Democratic Party believe that Donald Trump instigated and encouraged the riot on January 6th. Everyone knows that.

So to do a national worldwide address and just repeat that again with no advancement of, hey, you know, maybe this is a good lesson that we can't be Kazakhstan because that's what they're doing this week and that we have to solve our problems in a better way. No, none of that. It was take Trump off the board for 2024. That's what it was about. There is also another attack that is mounting now, somebody that was Melania's PR person. I know. Tell me about this. This attack is amazing.

Yeah. When this woman was hired, I never met her. I don't know her. But I went, ooh, you know, why are you doing? in this. Now, Melania, I know this to be true, very close friends with this woman, very, very tight. And she wanted this Grisham in the White House to be her spokesperson. And then for a little while at the end, she went over to Trump to be in that communications office. But I think that what she says, I don't know. I mean, I'm not reading.

her book, it's a hatchet book. It's like Mary Trump. They want to make money, bashing Trump. Wow. Okay. So I don't really care what she says. But the sense of betrayal here, when you're that tight with somebody as she was with Melania Trump, when you're invited to work for the White House, which is an honor, no matter who's in there, and then you turn around and you try to destroy them, oh boy, you know, people should really start to walk away. from this kind of stuff. You know, and what people don't understand is Jonathan Haidt did a great book. Stu, what was the name of this book?

Came out about five years ago. The righteous mind. The righteous mind. And he laid out the things that we have in common but are shifted. And we all have loyalty in common. We appreciate loyalty. But it is at the bottom of the list for Democrats. and at the top, it's the number one trait that people look towards who are conservative,

that you say what you mean and you mean what you say and you stand. You're not a fair weather friend. You have a little dignity. You know, Beck, I got to make an observation here. Your analysis and bringing that to the attention of your listeners is very important. so maybe you should always have COVID. You see, you're more cogent now. Shut up.

Shut up. Now. So who are the, what is the candidate that could, because there's a lot of Republicans that I've talked to that say if he runs, it's going to be the same thing and they're going to do the same thing. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Right.

And everybody's going to be so tired of it. They're going to want another choice. and they just might go with the Democrat. And I cannot come up with the Democrat that could beat Donald Trump. They'll stay home. So the people who are fed up with Biden and Trump, and there are millions of them, will just stay home. But independence will, I think, if things continue along this line with the Biden administration

failing on every level. And if they aren't failing on every level, please tell me what level they're succeeding on. Correct. I'm open-minded. I'd like to hear where the success is. But if we continue along these lines, it's going to be, okay, who is going to do the least amount of damage? I mean, that's what is going to be. You're always going to have Donald Trump's flamboyance to use a kind word.

It's never going to go away. And that's a decision I made. And so this is personal for me. So I said to myself, do I want to go out on a history tour with a controversial guy like Donald Trump, where I know I'm going to get attacked, and I did, I mean, you know, but I can handle it. Or do I just want to pass and just continue to do? I didn't need to do that tour. But I decided to do it because I think, based upon the facts, that Trump did a good job in the four years representing the United States.

States. That's what my belief. Now, do I like the way he handle himself sometimes? No. And I've told him that. And I told him that's the door. The independent, the new poll shows independence, Biden has hit an all-time low of 24, 24% approval rating. That's unheard of. So who is going to run against Donald Trump? Well, everyone looks like, you know, maybe Liz Chan, run. No, no, no, no, no. I mean, I mean, on the Democratic side. That's not that far out. That's not that, look, she's not going to win in Wyoming. She's not going to be a congressperson anymore. So she could absolutely primary Trump, big name, she can raise money. So that's not that crazy out. But if the Republicans believe that Trump is not going to win, primary him.

So my question is, because I think he gets the nomination, my question is, who do the Democrats run against him? Because they're not going to run Biden. I don't think so either, but they don't have anybody to run. So then you're going to fall back on Hillary Clinton, who's already raising money. Again. I just said this last week. Hillary Clinton is going to run again. That's who he'll run against. And she's already setting it up because she knows what a fiasco the Biden administration is. Look, even if you loathe Hillary Clinton and Bill, they have a machine. Okay?

They know how to govern in a sense that it's not a disorganized mess. It's not a Kamala Harris come out and excoriating the capital protesters while she wanted to raise bail money for the people who were burning down cities. I mean, that's just insane. If you were writing her speech, would you really want to do that? Would you really want to bring attention to that? No, you could have avoided that and said, this is a bad thing. Let's get the problem solved so we don't have to do this again.

That was a speech you should have gave. But they have no awareness at all. But the Clintons do. And so it could be a session. up between Trump and Hillary again. That would be amazing. Bill O'Reilly, what do you think the big story of the week is? Was it January 6th?

Yeah. I mean, I think that's a big story of the week, but it's going to die. And they'll do all the Sunday shows. You know what they'll do. Reprise it now terrible Trump is. But if you really want to step back, the biggest story of the week was one million Americans contracting COVID or reporting it on Monday. I mean, that is just an amazing number.

I think this is actually really good, Bill, because... Yeah, I understand. I mean, if the South African model, if the South African model holds, that you'll have another few weeks of this, and then it'll fall off the cliff, and then so many people have the antibodies, which, of course, turned on you, that will die out. Maybe some planes will get back in the air. Because there's COVID- unintended consequences is amazing.

Go ahead. Yeah. But it's not really COVID consequences. I think it is more of the government consequences. We could get back to America in probably a few weeks here if they would stop, helping people stay home by giving them more money than they can make out in the private sector. I agree 100% on that, and I know you and I have disagreed in the past.

But if you step back on this, the best thing that the government do now because they can't answer any questions. I mean, they can't even answer a question like, how long does a vaccine last? They can't even answer it. So they don't have any information for us. So just shut up. You know, I told Stu a few weeks ago to do that, but now I'm going to take that back. Stu can talk, but the federal government can't

because they don't know anything about COVID. You know, Anthony Fauci, we should do the pinata thing with him. He has to run through a long line, and we just whack them with, you know, I don't want them hurt, but with paper or something, because this is just a farce now. It's crazy now. And the fact that, you know, I have, I, you know, there's really no treatments that the government is recommending or pushing or not tearing down. That's the key.

They're tearing down everything that is a treatment. Well, millions of Americans are getting it. So what do we do besides isolate at home? Everything that is a possible treatment that I personally know people, who have done other treatments once they've gotten it and it's helped them, the government is standing in the way of. I mean, it is, it's so clear what this government is doing. But it's almost over.

I think it's almost over. I have to sit one out because I don't know. I'm not a medical person. The FDA is supposed to, you know, say this stuff is safe. I don't know. What I do, my advice to everybody is get a doctor you trust. Follow the doctor's advice. don't listen to the government.

I mean, you know, I'd have to give that advice to doctors now. I'd have to give that advice to doctors now. Because doctors, a lot of doctors, are not able to do the things that they truly believe in and have seen work. But they're pariahs because of it. Does your doctor have a solution to you? I mean, do they recommend therapeutics for you? My doctor, yeah, absolutely.

My doctor got me through the first case. I think it would have been even worse than it was. He got me through the first case. But now any of the other therapeutics, he is, he's like, again, if I write it, he said, I've already been threatened. I think it's because he's my doctor. He said, I've already been threatened that, you know, don't go off the beaten path.

It's awful. It is awful. And there are a lot of doctors that feel that way. All right, Bill O'Reilly. Well, I think it's coming to an end. Thank you so much for being. and I'm sorry to cut you loose early this week, but we had a shift in the schedule because of a call with Mark Levin.

But thanks a lot. We'll talk to you again next week. Bill O'Reilly. Make sure you follow him on Bill O'Reilly.com. It's no spin zone on every day. Bill O'Reilly.com. Michael Malice joining us. Before I get there, I just want to say,

because last night, the painting that I did of Joe Lewis being knocked out by Max Schmelling called, that I call it, the birth of a champion, was trending last night, because it was on during an interview with Donald Trump. And they're calling it Nazi propaganda. Couldn't be further from the truth. I've said that I'm not going to sell this. There's one person I would sell this to. I would sell it to Joe Rogan because he would appreciate the message in this.

If Joe wants to buy it, great. otherwise I'm keeping the original. But I am going to today, I'm asking somebody to come over, you know, with a mask and gloves and get it and copy it because I am going to sell prints of this because it's, you know, that controversial Nazi painting by Glenn Beck, which has nothing to do with that. It has everything to do with learn your lessons, stand back up and knock that guy out. All right. Michael Malice is with us. Hi, Michael. Good morning. How are you, sir? Much better than you.

My condolences on your illness. And whatever you think, I promise you, it's not karma. It might be. It might be. You know, I had it before there was a vaccine, so I've been riding on the antibodies. And I just got it, what, Wednesday? It hit me like a bag of bricks. But now, with an exception of just some lingering mouth,

problems with my voice, I'm pretty much past it. I mean, the first time I had it, it knocked me out for about three weeks. This is just like a really, really bad cold this time. Yeah, too. My friends got it over the weekend,

and it's a scary word, you know, like I was feeling a little under weather last week, and I'm like, is this it? Is this, you know, at the showtime? And it was just kind of allergies, whatever, but it gets scary. And I hope everyone listening, you know, stays healthy and happy, of course.

Yeah. I don't know if you heard this, Glenn talking about the backstory of this painting that he did of Joe Lewis and Max Schmelling. And this reaction from Chris Hayes of MSNBC. And, you know, to be fair, tons of other people on the left. He, they see this painting in the background of one of his interviews. They say, oh, my gosh, he's got Nazi propaganda up there because this is when Max Schmelling had beaten Joe Lewis. And any simple Googling gets you to the explanation as to what this painting. is that Glenn's praising, you know, like you have a failure and that turns your life around.

And that's the important moment when you fail that leads to success in the future. And, you know, you've talked about the media really well over the years and you, I think, understand this better than so many others. What is the motivation here? Like, why would you embarrass yourself and not even look for the facts here? Why just attack your opponents without any knowledge, whether you're right or wrong? Literally, with a Google search. I'm going to give you two answers.

First, I'm going to play devil's advocate because I think you guys remember it was like a year ago when former Senate candidate Harold Ford was staying at an Airbnb, and behind him on the wall was Andy Warhol's painting of Chairman Mao. And Warhol meant it as a spinger to Mao as an example of how Mao had become a quote-unquote celebrity in the same way that Warhol had painted. It was the Taylor and Mal Monroe, and all the conservatives were freaking out that this was communist propaganda, even though it wasn't his house, and even though it would have been a simple Googling. So that's number one.

So this goes, people misunderstand art very easily. The whole point of art is that it's open to interpretation. And the other problem is people who are corporate journalists are often not very bright. So they are going to have that knee-jerk reaction. But as you guys have seen, as everyone listening to this knows, the demand for Nazis outweighs the supply. There is such desperation on the part of, you know, corporate media. outlets to find Nazis that they're looking for them everywhere to the point where people are

often painting, you know, fascist slogans to demonstrate that there's fascism and they're later caught and they're often, you know, minority. You're saying this is Nazi inflation, too many Nazi hunters chasing too few Nazis. I mean, we laugh, but I mean, it would be a very serious problem. and it's not to pretend that there are no quasi-fascist in American culture, and certainly in Europe nowadays, but the premise that Glenn Beck would be dumb enough to sit in front of a Nazi painting while he's interviewing a president and have that be some kind of subtle dog whistle

that no one's going to pick up. That is what's amazing. They have a complete lack of ability to empathize with other perspectives, and they're just waiting in every moment for the math to drop, so to speak, which is kind of a bit of projection. And you saw this also with, you know, the Trump's Charlottesville speech, where when he condemned white nationally in the same breath when he said both sides, the clip is there.

It's indisputable. But, you know, President Biden brings it up to this day. So what is your take on Daniel? I think that's the biggest story of the week. He's kind of a little bit there, Michael, but he said, would your take on January 6th if that didn't come through? Oh, yeah. So, I mean, it's very tragic.

AOC had to talk to a cop for five minutes, and she was traumatized for months. Rashida Tullab, remember, was crying on the floor of the house. AOC had to comfort her. There was some bottles of water knocked over. Someone had his feet up on Pelosi's death. Here's my takeaway, and I'm going to get a little bit serious for a minute. Where has President Trump in? he defended the people.

When he was giving that Charlotte's speech, the people when he said there's good people on both sides, he was referring to the controversy about removing statues. That's who he was defending. The people were saying, we shouldn't remove statues. The people on January 6th were his people.

They were all his people. These were his hardcore supporters. Now they're being held in detention in horrible conditions for who knows how long. They are his hardcore supporters and he shrugs his shoulders. And I think this, This is the big problem that conservatives have to appreciate when it comes to Donald Trump.

We had four years of President Trump being attacked for the most demented things imaginable, including how many scoops of ice cream he had, that he fed the fish wrong when he was in Japan, even though he's following the prime minister's lead. Queen Elizabeth gestured for him to walk in front of her, which he did. Then she couldn't get around him because he's a lot bigger. They cropped the first part where she gestured. so it looks like he just stood in front of her like a buffoon. So we had four years of that.

So understandably, conservatives got protective and defensive of President Trump. He's not in office now. It's been a year. And I would encourage conservatives take a step back and realize not every criticism of President Trump has been inaccurate because the man has shown a severe lack of loyalty towards people who have been loyal to him. And I'm thinking specifically with Michael Flynn,

and I'm thinking especially of Jeff Sessions, who was probably the strongest anti-illegal immigrant person in the Senate became Attorney General. Because of him, Trump got him primaried, and he blew a Senate seat in Alabama. How does that happen? So if people are looking forward to 2024, keep in mind, this guy's loyalty is a one-way street, and that's a big problem because conservatives tend to be very, very loyal people. I agree with that. We were just talking about how loyalty is number one.

I know you know the Jonathan Haight book, but loyalty is number one on the scale. And it's interesting because I do think that that is the number one thing with Donald Trump is loyalty. And in talking to him, you know, I just sat down with him about a month ago. And then I had dinner with him and his wife. And I came away with the impression, and this is just from, you know, the off the record, just dinner conversation. I came away from that meeting feeling as though the truly the main reason he would run again is because he doesn't want to let the people down that he trusted and said, I will do this and then was doing it and then lost and he knows he can fix it. And he expressed it in several different ways, but it was the same thing. I'm not going to leave those people without anyone who will fight for them.

Let's bring some receipts. When President Trump got into office, the federal budget was $4 trillion under Obama. Two years later, before COVID, it was $4.4 trillion, an increase of 10% under his watch. He promised, when he campaigned, and this was a very legitimate promise from it given his background, that he knew the best people, and he was going to staff his cabinet with the best people. And we thought he was going to bring in all these outsiders, people you'd never expect to see in politics. And the next thing you know, it's Rens Previs, and the chairman of Exxon is the Secretary of State. His staffing decisions, I think everyone has to acknowledge, were horrible.

He's driving out people who have left of mind like Steve Vannin, and he's bringing in the swamp creatures. All right. So let me let me just push back on that because I'd like to hear your opinion on it. In the interview I did, I said, you got a clean house. And he talked about the, you know, he had two jobs to fix the country and to survive. And he said, I can't go in there with the same GOP. I can't go in there with the same group of people. I have to have people around me that are on the same page because pretty much I got to fire everybody in every department. And I think he gets that. I've talked to people who are inside the administration before and they said the one mistake that they made was they underestimated the power of all of these

long-term bureaucrats and the Republican Party that they would be so against him. And he's not going to, he's not going to repeat that. Now, I don't know who he's staffed. it with and who he gets to have the balls to run some of these things to fire or shut down these departments. But that's what it's going to take one way or another. I love to hear your response. So if you don't know who Michael Malice is, he is the guy who's written the anarchist handbook. He is an anarchist, but not the Antifa throw bombs through windows kind of anarchist. Am I right on that? Michael, please verify that. I'm not through windows but you know he does he believes that if there were no government

we would be we'd all be better off I disagree with that but I I lean towards uh in fact I don't lean towards I'd like to shut down all of the department of fill in the blank I'd like them all to be gone. They have no place in our, in our government, in my opinion. So Michael is coming from a different place, but I like that because he makes me think things through and pushes me up against the wall. So I question the things that I think I believe. I think that's really important. So Michael, your response on what I just said here about a minute ago. Right. So you were talking about how President Trump said to you that he understands, he has to, you know, fire a lot of these staffers and bring in good people. My pushback would be like, does he understand this? Or does he

understand what he needs to say to you in order to maintain your support in the next cycle? And here's the evidence to the contrary. There's somebody called revealed preferences, right? If you tell your spouse, I love you, I love you, I love you, but you're never home and you're cheating on them. Talk is cheap. Your actions are telling. Trump is long. launching a social media company. Who did he hire to run the social media company? Devin Nunes. Devin Nunes' entire background is being, one, a dairy farmer and then a congressman.

What does he know about running a social media company? All he knows is he has a roodex in Washington. He's a creature of the swamp. Now, he might be a great conservative. I'm sure he's a very ethical, great person, so on and so forth. But to say that he's some kind of outsider is nonsensical. So Trump had the opportunity to, and the other thing is, and this is not his fault, he's been rendered so radioactive. Why would I, if I was working in Wall Street, San Francisco, L.A., New York, why would I want working on the Trump administration of my resume?

It would ruin my career. And again, this is not Trump's fault at all, but that has been an issue for him in the past. And going forward, it's going to be even more of an issue. Yeah, I do agree with it. that. It is going to be hard to get people. And then that is, you know, we have to have people who understand where we are in our society. It is, look, it's almost lights out time. And, you know, maybe we deserve it because we have taken this for granted for so long. And we've been running on other generations vapors for so long. And we've become this monstrosity that is

all run in Washington. So maybe we deserve it, but I think the original premise is worth saving. I don't know where he gets those people. I mean, you know, you look at Devin Nunes, you see him as an insider. I see him as an insider outsider. You know what I mean? He's a guy who's been there who doesn't like the way it's running and has been standing up for it. It's a little like Rand Paul. Yes, he's in, but he's working hard from within to try to to shut it down. Are those people important, or are they the same? They're very important.

I'm not questioning that at all, but my point to you is, what evidence do you have that Devin Nunes knows anything about social media? Now, it's so, it runs. So it's clear that Trump got him as he hires most his people because of a sense of loyalty to him. Now, that's very important because

he's been betrayed left and right. But my point is, he's, because of all the forces against him, concerned have to appreciate, he got beaten by a corpse in the 2020 election. And these same forces are now even more powerful because they have the White House. And you can't tell me that he shouldn't have seen it coming all the machinations that the Democrats did in various states to finagle the vote to make sure they got the result they wanted. There was that Time Magazine article bragging about these coalitions that was behind the scenes.

Molly Hemingway did a great book called Rig discussing it. It's nothing to the voting machines. It had to do it with a year-long series of attempts, including things by Mark Zuckerberg, to get the result. I agree with you. Michael Malice, thanks for stopping in. Michael Malice. You can follow him at Michael Malice.