The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Michael Shellenberger & Mary Margaret Olohan | 5/8/24

Episode Date: May 8, 2024

Glenn goes through the different treatments between President Trump and President Biden by the FBI and DOJ, with the agencies going so far as to allegedly stage the infamous photo from Trump’s class...ified documents case, which led to the case being postponed indefinitely. The Daily Signal senior reporter Mary Margaret Olohan joins to discuss the true cost of transgender surgery in minors and the devastating outcomes that the Left ignores. Glenn dives into what WPATH is and teases what will be exposed in his latest special. Journalist Michael Shellenberger joins to discuss why exposing the evil that’s in the WPATH Files is so critical for the safety of minors.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:03:48 You're listening to the best of the Glenbeck program. I think there's a few things that should concern every single American. Take Donald Trump, take Joe Biden out. Let's just look at the system. Whoever you're for, would you be cool with this being done by the president of the United States to anyone? Okay. Last August 2022, Department of Justice released stunning photograph depicting alleged
Starting point is 00:04:27 contraband seized from Donald Trump's Palm Beach estate that day. It showed colored sheets representing scary classifications and their classifications. and their classified levels attached to files discovered in Trump's private office. Right? You remember that? I do remember. It was a big story, Glenn. Was it? Yeah. I didn't. I remember the pictures. They were everywhere. Huh. Huh. Okay. So one at the time, one ex-CIA officer told ABC News the cover sheets indicated the highest levels of secrecy. And in the wrong hands, they could have resulted in murder.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I remember this. The case was Donald Trump so egregious in this particular matter. He didn't care about the security of the nation. He didn't care about our nuclear secrets. He just took a bunch of stuff labeled top secret and brought to his house and put in his shower. Remember that? That was terrible. Why would he do such a thing?
Starting point is 00:05:23 13 boxes or containers contained documents with classification markers. And in all, over 100 unique documents with classification markings were seized. Okay. Certain of the documents had colored cover sheets indicating their classification status. The DOJ's clever wordsmithing, however, did not accurately describe the origin of the cover sheets. In what must be considered not only an act of doctoring evidence, but willfully
Starting point is 00:05:57 misleading the American people into believing the former president is a criminal and the threat to national security, agents involved in the raid attached the cover sheets to at least seven files to stage that photo. Here's what they did. It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Classified cover sheets were not recovered in the container, contrary to what the FBI originally said. In fact, after being busted recently by defense attorneys for mishandling evidence in the case, Brad had to fess up about how the
Starting point is 00:06:31 cover sheets actually ended up on the documents. The new version of the story, where he admits kind of a critical detail that he failed to disclose, if the investigation team found a document with classification markings, it removed the document, segregated it and replaced it with a placeholder sheet. The investigative team used classified cover sheets for that purpose. But before the official cover sheets were used as a placeholder, where agents apparently use them as props. FBI agents took it upon themselves to paperclip the sheets to the documents,
Starting point is 00:07:08 something evident given the uniform nature of how each cover sheet is clipped to a file in the photo. They laid them out on the floor and then snapped a picture of it. This is never done. You don't think? No, no. This is never done. Now, the federal judge, that is looking at this case, which is now in court, they have postponed the document trial because they've said there are too many things here that don't add up. There are too many things the FBI did that they never did nor should they have ever thought of doing. So there's too many irregularities. Whether this thing even goes through or not. But here's the point. If I said to
Starting point is 00:08:02 a Democrat, how would you feel if Donald Trump, when he was in office, wanted to get Joe Biden so badly that he went into the House and he had the FBI, arrange a photo session, and change documents and made them look much scarier than they were, basically planting evidence that was not there. They came in with that evidence. would you be okay with that? Planting evidence? No. No. Isn't that what they did?
Starting point is 00:08:40 I mean, certainly to manipulate public opinion. Yet they walked in with the things they photographed that said were in Donald Trump's home. They were not marked that way. They did not have those covers. That's incredible. I mean, I definitely thought, my impression when seeing that photo was... That's what they pulled out. was that that's what they pulled out.
Starting point is 00:09:02 And so it was basically, it made it more egregious for Trump. He saw that it said top secret all over it and still took it. And like, you know, if you don't know anything about this, you look at that and you say, well, he should have known. I mean, it's just top secret all over the place. But it didn't say top secret all over the place. It just, they added that later for these photos is what we're learning. Yes. Yes. That is at best propaganda.
Starting point is 00:09:28 at best propaganda would you be happy as a Democrat if Donald Trump was engaged in that sort of at best propaganda to sway people his way you would say no
Starting point is 00:09:45 I would say no I say no now why aren't you saying no here's the next one do you remember the name Robert Malley Robert Malley was the subject of some controversy and some scrutiny last year because he is our envoy to Iran. And all of a sudden, we were going to Iran, and then all of a sudden the envoy was like, I can't go.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Why? Well, he's taking some time off. Why? Well, he just is. Why? Well, we're not sure. What do you mean you're not sure? Well, we can't tell you.
Starting point is 00:10:32 What the hell was going on with that? Well, we just found out. Now, this on the heels of what I just talked to you about with Donald Trump, he lost his top secret classification. And when they finally came out with that, why? Well, he just did. Why, he just did. specifically now, and this did not come from the Biden administration.
Starting point is 00:11:00 This has come from whistleblowers, we believe. He was suspended because he allegedly transferred classified documents to his personal email account, downloaded the documents to his personal cell phone, and somebody received them, but we don't know who yet. It's unclear whom he intended to provide these documents, but is believed that a hostile cyber actor was able to gain access to his email and his phone and obtain downloaded information. These were top secret. These allegations have a substantial impact on our national security, and people should be held accountable swiftly and strongly. But we're not doing anything about him.
Starting point is 00:11:49 we just downgraded his security clearance and he was suspended for a while. Are you kidding me? This guy is a spy for the Iranians. You're trying Donald Trump and you are using propaganda techniques to make it, to hype it up. And this guy, you won't even tell the American people what he did, how he did. how he did it. We have to find out through whistleblowers and nothing is happening to him.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Honest question to anyone who might, you know, have passion against Donald Trump. Which one are you more concerned about? Someone who's doing this with Iran or classified documents being in the private home of the former president of the
Starting point is 00:12:40 United States. They'd say Donald Trump. How? I know. I mean, you have to be insane to say that. Correct. Correct. And we keep letting these people go. We keep letting them go. Try this on for size. The Republican governors of Texas and Florida have penned letters condemning a proposal that would effectively allow the Democratic administration or any president to rest control of the National Guard units away from their states without governors, uh, uh, permission. This is the U.S. Air Force legislative proposal 480. It's not just Ron DeSantis and Greg Abbott against this. Forty-eight governors are against this. Joe Biden wants it. Why? The National Guard cannot be called away from their home state without the permission of the governor.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Now, let's just say you are on the left and you have always argued a well-regulated militia. That means the National Guard. Okay. Then that makes this even stronger. If that's the well-regulated militia for each state, the federal government cannot take it from the governors or the state. because it is their last defense. And what states do you think he'd take those from? I'm guessing Texas and Florida.
Starting point is 00:14:32 And they'd be off fighting some war in God knows where. And Texas and Florida wouldn't have access to their home state defense. Do you want, rip up Democrats, do you want a Donald Trump to have the power to take your National Guard away from you. On his whim, of course you answer no. And I answer no as well. Why am I saying no now would say no under Trump, but you don't seem to care when it's Biden?
Starting point is 00:15:17 Who's really protecting democracy and the republic? Here's another one. Biden administration hid the pause in arms sales to Israel from Congress. Wait, the javelin missiles going to Ukraine. Donald Trump was paused those. They say only for his personal or political enrichment. He was going to be able to get dirt on Joe Biden. And that can't ever happen.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Okay. Well, we all know there's. corruption over there, but why worry about that then or now? We'll just keep sending hundreds of billions of dollars over to Ukraine. This time, with the American people are for the arms sales, when Congress passed the sales, President Biden secretly stops the arms sales to Israel, even though it was passed by Congress, approved by the people as much as you can possibly approve anything anymore. why isn't he
Starting point is 00:16:30 Oh well Because he really believes this Oh and Trump didn't You can read the hearts of men Hmm And you don't think this has anything to do With the election You don't think
Starting point is 00:16:41 That Mr. Flipflop on Israel I love him I hate him I love him I hate him I love him I hate him Hey what are the What are the Muslims saying In Dearborn Michigan Yeah that's right
Starting point is 00:16:52 I remember now I hate him That's not a political move why am I against somebody doing political moves unless it is because it is not in national interest if it is in the national interest we should have a conversation about it wait the president did something
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Starting point is 00:19:10 Sarah, O'Hollahann. Sorry, Mary Margaret. Mary Margaret O'Lahan is with us. She is from the Daily Signal, and she is the author of D-Trans. Welcome to the program. I'm not drunk, I swear to you, Mary. Good morning, and thanks for having me. It's so great to be here.
Starting point is 00:19:29 So why don't we hear about all of the transitioners and their happy ending? things. We don't hear about them because the ones that go through transition or this attempted transition, right, because we know it doesn't actually work, many of them are incredibly sad and suffering mentally and physically, but they can't really go back to the doctors that did this to them and say, hey, I regretted this because it's a little bit like going back to an abuser and saying, hey, I didn't really like that you abused me. So can you do something about this? or can we talk about this? That's just not a normal situation. And so what we're finding is you don't even have good statistics on how many people are detransitioning because it's so unlikely that they head back to their doctors and tell them that they're doing it. So for many of these people, they're kind of just like fading into the background of our culture, these people who have been really dramatically treated and told that all of these things would make them happy and would improve their lives. And it was a complete lie. Tell me about some of the parents.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Tell me about the mom in the last chapter of your book, Abby Martinez. Yeah, this story is incredibly sad, and I should say that the rest of the book is about the stories of detransitioners. So people who tried to transition and realize this is impossible. And now they're living happier lives that are focused on, you know, life after detransition and spreading word about what the realities are. But the last chapter of my book is about Abby Martinez and her daughter, Yaley, because I think it's important that people understand what the alternative is to that happier ending. Abby is the mother of a young girl, Yaley, who at the age of 19, knelt on the train tracks, put her arms above her head, and watched as the train hurled towards her and smashed her body to bits. She was so, there were so many pieces of her everywhere that they could barely identify her when they asked her mom to come and make sure it was her.
Starting point is 00:21:32 She was absolutely horrific. Yaley, this daughter, once she was in high school, she made friends with a girl at school who identified as a boy. And the school, and that girl encouraged Yaley to explore different gender identity. The school started socially transitioning her, calling her by a boy name, Andrew, using a male pronoun, for her and they weren't telling her mother any of this. So when Abby, who I spoke with for my book, Abby figured out what was going on and understandably was not on board with it. The school ultimately worked with the state and the state ultimately took Yaley away from her family and ultimately put her hormones and was facilitating her gender transition when she committed suicide. And I spoke with
Starting point is 00:22:20 Abby about this at length. You know, she was very emotional with me on the phone. It made me very emotional just to hear the suffering that this mother has gone through. And she even told me that in the aftermath of Yaley's death, these LGBTQ advocates have fundraised off her death to say, look what happened to this poor trans boy. You should give us money to help trans youth to not commit suicide. To just imagine that from the mother's perspective, too, that's. they're weaponizing her daughter's death as an example of why you should be facilitating
Starting point is 00:22:55 children's gender transitions. So it's an incredibly sad story, but Abby wants people to know, here's my story, here's my experience, this is how the state took my daughter from me. Be warned. Like, this is happening and it's not, it's not casual. It's not just something that our society is growing into or, you know, it's not normal. This can happen. happen. And for all those, for all those people who are shouting about how trans youth are at risk, they are at risk because you're putting them on hormones and putting them through really traumatic surgeries that are going to impact them for the rest of their lives. The parent, I feel so bad for the parents because this is a whole new world for people. And,
Starting point is 00:23:43 you know, if you trust your doctors and all of the doctors are saying the same thing, you know, you don't know what to do. And then you have the pressure of the state taking your child away. And you're like, well, that's worse. I don't know. When the kids who want to detransition, I mean, they've destroyed their bodies, not them, but the surgeons have destroyed their bodies. They're most likely not going to have children. They probably are not going to have any kind of relations with another individual because, you know, it's different to say the least. Yes, their bodies are very permanently impacted in many ways. For example, and thank God we have these lawsuits that have been coming out, the detransitioners suing their medical providers,
Starting point is 00:24:34 that really give a good glimpse into exactly who did this to them and what the effects are. Chloe Cole, for example, is one of the most famously transitioners. And Chloe's lawsuit describes how she has these weird aches and pains in her back now because her bone density changed. And, you know, as a girl, her body wasn't prepared for the testosterone to change her bone density and her muscle structure. And, you know, all these young people are worried that have been on hormones that is affecting their fertility, their ability to experience sexual.
Starting point is 00:25:10 pleasure, just so many different aspects of how it's affecting their lives going forward. And I do think it's important, like you were saying, to point to the parents and all of this. I think they get a lot of modern parents are really in a tight spot with the social acceptance of smartphones and iPhones and the push of activism on their kids. But your average secular family that's not really practicing a religion is just kind of going with the flow. When you encounter a gender ideology, it's taught to you as a kind of religion. You know, you're taught that it's a good thing. You're taught that you're loving and affirming.
Starting point is 00:25:50 And so when your child is saying, I want to get a double mastectomy, and you're thinking, my gut's telling me that's insane and my child's breast should not be removed, but the doctors are saying, would you rather have a dead daughter or a living son? That's a crossroads. And that's very scary. And most parents love their kids. And so when they're presented with these huge dilemmas, I don't blame them for being confused. And the ones who go with their gut, thank God, but the ones who don't, they have to suffer and they have to live with those consequences and watch their kids grow and experience intense suffering, both mentally and physically.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Do we have any idea, any stats on how many regret this move after? Yeah, we have some. Lisa Littman is a researcher who has done some amazing work on this. She found that only 24% of the group of detransitioners who have decided that they detransitioned or, you know, ended this transition process, only 24% of them actually went back to their doctors and said, I regretted this and I'm all done. on. So that's a very, very low number of people who are going back to their doctors. So official statistics aren't really going to reflect the numbers because they're only reflecting
Starting point is 00:27:15 the people who come back. And so in... You would think this would be an important thing that researchers would want to know. In any other, in any other case, you would be going back and following up with those patients across the board. board. No matter whose doctor it was, you would go across the board to everybody who has had that procedure done, no matter what it was, and ask them a year later and five years later, this is something brand new. Why is no one interested in finding this out? Exactly. And Glenn, that's something that I think about all this time. There are no doctors who are willing to help the detransitioners with their medical complications as they're detransitioning. And just from a purely like attention
Starting point is 00:28:04 seeking mercenary standpoint, why isn't anyone willing to kind of stick their neck out here? Like, you would think that there should be doctors who are brave enough to say, I want to be the one that's the expert in this field. I want to be the one, the doctor that helps detransitioners. Even if you're doing it from an attention-seeking standpoint, it seems like there's a really easy gap to fill here. But where are our medical professionals who genuinely care about these kids? And not just kids, adults, too. They're trapped by fear. Medical professionals who could look at this situation and say, well, we've been replacing science with gender ideology and people are suffering the consequences of it.
Starting point is 00:28:41 We need medical professionals who are willing to stand up and say, I can help you after you've been treated so badly by our medical system. But it just seems like there really isn't anyone doing that right now. They're going to lose their license. If they do that, they'll lose their license. Right. And I think that's something very scary that I encountered as I was interviewing these detransitioners. One girl, Helena, told me when she got testosterone, she got it from Planned Parenthood, of course, very easy process. She got it the same afternoon.
Starting point is 00:29:13 She went in and filled out the form. Wow. She started taking it. Yeah. I can't even get it. I'm a guy and I can't even get it on the same day and walk into a doctor's office. Maybe you should try Planned Parenthood. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:29:25 And so she gets on, starts taking testosterone. It's really impacting her mentally and physically. And it gets to the point where it's compounding her mental health problems. And she just, she can't handle it. And she's suffering so much. And so she checks herself into a hospital in Chicago asking them, help me, I am falling apart. And these doctors at the hospital, instead of saying, okay, like, let's look at her biology.
Starting point is 00:29:51 She's a girl. She's taking this. It's probably hurting her. They asked her what her gender was. She tells them she's a guy. and so in all her medical forms they call her a guy and they treat her as a guy and then they medically pretend she's a guy who's coming in with no other medicine in her that needs help for mental health issues. So they completely ignored the fact that she actually was taking testosterone and that was the source of her trouble and pretended she was just a guy that needed help with mental health issues. So that just blew my mind because it's a very simple, you know, beginning.
Starting point is 00:30:26 trajectory transition incident, but she couldn't even get basic care from the hospital in this one situation. And so obviously her mental health struggles compounded because now they got her on all this medication. And she ultimately decided to get off testosterone because it was hurting her so much. And she figured out what the doctors apparently couldn't, that it was a source of many of her problems. But just that story, I think, is a really good example of how our medical professionals are just completely caving on this gender ideology and how little the interest they seem to have in facts and science anymore. And it does make you wonder, Glenn, whether this is complete cowardice or whether we're just filling our medical industry with less and less
Starting point is 00:31:13 intelligent people. We're repeating the mistakes we made in the 1930s with progressives and people, doctors who just think that they're God. Mary Margaret, thank you so much. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you so much. You bet. That's Mary Margaret, Olahan, and she is the author of Detrans. We're going to be doing a special on this tonight. I want you to watch it at 9. It's so important for every parent because nobody is giving you this information. And we're going to show you the real results of this. It is terrifying. You will watch tonight and go, how is that doctor not in?
Starting point is 00:31:56 jail tonight, 9 o'clock, only on Blaze TV. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Michael Schellenberger, author of San Francisco, and the founder of Public on Substack, and somebody who will be remembered in history as somebody who was a friend of freedom and the Republic. Michael Schellenberger, welcome to the program. Hey, thanks for having me, Glenn.
Starting point is 00:32:29 You bet. Thank you so much for taking some time. You are the guy who first dumped this out to the world, and it seems like the media just yawned at it. Tell me what W-Path is and why it's so critical people understand it. Sure. So W-Path is an acronym that stands for World Professional Association for Transgender Health, and it is important because it's the organization that all of the big medical organizations, including the American Medical Association, the AMA, the American Psychiatric Association, the APA, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the Anderican Society, all of these guys rely on this group
Starting point is 00:33:12 to decide how to treat kids that think they're the opposite sex or have what's called gender identity disorder or gender dysphoria confusion about their sex. and what we were we were given a set of the internal discussion files by this organization, and it was, it's shocking. And we spent about eight months really writing a very serious report. I think it's about 140 pages entirely of both internal documents, about 70 pages of those of the internal files from this group. And then we have a report that explains all of it because you're dealing with
Starting point is 00:33:55 you know, supposedly medical issues. But look, what can I say? This is one of the biggest medical scandals in human history. That's a strong claim, but I think anybody who reads them will agree that this is the case. We're talking about stopping the normal development of children through puberty, which means these children end up sterilized in many cases. They end up not able to have full sexual function, which is obviously a very important thing and very important to people being happy and living full romantic lives.
Starting point is 00:34:30 These are things, you know, occurring with kids as young as 10 years old. There's developmental disorders. We see homeless people with schizophrenia. Just shocking to say. We see, and we see that neither the children nor the parents understand to them, meaning they do not understand that they are likely to be sterilized and to lose sexual function. They have no conception of it. And so, you know, everybody's heard of do no harm.
Starting point is 00:35:05 That's the Hippocratic Ove. Yeah. People need to know that there's another part of that, which is called informed consent. That's a technical, that's the law. You're not allowed who do not understand what you're doing to them. And yet that is precisely what is happening in the United States of America right now, thanks to the complicity. And you've never heard of W-Path, but you've heard of AMA,
Starting point is 00:35:34 you've heard of the American Academy of Pediatrics, You've heard of the American Psychiatrics. These organizations have blood on their hands. And they're going to be held accountable. There are lawsuits. But these things are ongoing, Glenn, and it's truly a national scandal of something that really should shock the conscience of our country. Michael, I look at this, and I think this is the Tuskegee experiments. This is the horrible progressive sterilization eugenics program.
Starting point is 00:36:03 This is every horrible medical thing our country has ever done, and then we're shamed by it and we don't talk about it. It's happening right now. Would you agree with that? 100%. It's completely shocking. And yes, it's definitely up there with the history of sterilizing poor people, non, you know, racial minorities.
Starting point is 00:36:29 It's up there with the Tuskegee experiments on black Americans. it's up there with the opioid crisis, you know, except for, I think in some ways it's worse than all of those, which has led some people to say that it is the worst medical scandal in human history. You know, the United States, the news media should be ashamed of themselves. They are, they are, if I were to kind of say who's to blame, you'd say doctors, the news media, the mainstream news media, Hollywood for promoting this. But I would say, you know, it should give people hope that things are changing in Europe,
Starting point is 00:37:17 and so we actually did have the British media, the Times of London, the Telegraph of London, the Daily Mail, the Guardian. The Guardian published its sister newspaper, The Observer, but they're both a very left-wing magazines, and the economists, which everybody knows of. So, you know, they all have now written about this, but they've put American media to shame. And so truly, this thing, this has to stop. Children, adolescents, and vulnerable adults should not, puberty has to be viewed as a human right. Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:50 It's shocking that it must be said, but puberty is a human right. You must not deprive that of any child. Michael, there's a couple of things that I can't figure out. First of all, why, you know, you'll have a hard time getting your insurance company to cover something that you're like, my child needs this medication and they won't do it. And yet with this, the medical insurance companies, everybody is just, oh, go, go, go, go, not a problem. Greenlight immediately. They're not to ask for anything and they'll greenlight it. The second thing is, why are we ignoring this?
Starting point is 00:38:33 Why in America are we just staying the course? I think it's these institutions. They've betrayed their mission and their purpose. These medical associations, their mission is the Hippocratic Oath to do no harm and to get informed consent as part of that. So they've betrayed their mission. The news media have betrayed their mission. They're now spreading propaganda and ignorance. So when I talked to my very progressive family and friends,
Starting point is 00:39:06 they don't believe this is happening. They literally, when I tell them, they deny that. They suggest that I'm making it up. I mean, they did, I should say, now that reports out, I think people are having a second look. So what you've seen, we are in the midst of a, you know, this is the name of my next book, Glenn, pathocracy. We are dealing with pathocratic institutions,
Starting point is 00:39:29 meaning sick institutions run by, in many cases, deranged people, cow paths and narcissists. So that's what they've taken over the critical institutions of society. That's the only way that you could get these grotesque medical mistreatment and experimentation on children, adolescents, and vulnerable adults. It's the only way it could have occurred. Michael, thank you so much for everything that you do. I know that you're busy writing and doing reporting every day and you're spending a lot of time up at Capitol Hill. You see any chance in Washington of anything changing? Definitely not in Washington. I mean, I think that there's changes coming. I think that's clear from the polling data and not just in the United States, but
Starting point is 00:40:29 around the world. You know, the governments of the world right now are really cracking down on free speech. I'm under criminal investigation in Europe, I'm sorry, in Brazil for publishing entirely legal and accurate things. The European governments are weapon, the European politicians are weaponizing their intelligence agencies to spread disinformation about their political enemies. So I would say that we're in a very dangerous moment because we're in between two different I think systems or governments.
Starting point is 00:41:03 And so we're seeing the credited regime start to weaponize the government, and we've seen weaponizing the government institutions in order to maintain political power and persecute its enemies, including imprisoning them in places like Brazil, including seeking to shut down and censor the entire global Internet from Australia and New Zealand and other, frankly, irrelevant countries at a global level. And the United States, you know, it's the U.S. intelligence community that controls the Australian intelligence community, not the other way around. So the continued weaponization of our intelligence community,
Starting point is 00:41:46 I mean, there needs to be a significant change from the top of every nation to get control. And I say this as a lifelong liberal and as somebody that just from the straight, If you want a liberal democracy rather than a totalitarian system, we have got to get control of our intelligence and security agencies, which are abusing their powers in ways that we haven't seen since the spying on Martin Luther King, you know, since the rogue assassination efforts and system when it comes to free speech. I will tell you, as a lifelong conservative, I couldn't be behind you any more. You know, real liberals, while we may disagree on tax policies or whatever, we should be agreeing on the Bill of Rights. And those things are almost completely gone. And if we lose that, we're not a safe country anymore.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Thank you so much, Michael. I appreciate it. When you were little, you on have braced, in course of recreat, always in trying to negotiate and do make sure, The apply negotiates-titre T-D you can't re-nouet with this instinct with without without operation
Starting point is 00:43:10 gratuite, no amount of minimum and no free mensual. You're made for negotiate, and the T-D is there for
Starting point is 00:43:17 you help. No,

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