The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Michael Shellenberger & Peter Schweizer | 9/4/24

Episode Date: September 4, 2024

Will Donald Trump be allowed to become president again? Glenn doesn't think so, as he agrees with Eric Weinstein that the powers that be will prevent Trump from winning re-election by any means necessary. Trump claiming he will release the Epstein client list only makes Glenn and Stu fear the worst. Author and founder of "Public" on Substack Michael Shellenberger joins to discuss Brazil's banning of X after Elon Musk refused to engage in cross-platform banning. Government Accountability Institute President Peter Schweizer joins to discuss how New York Governor Kathy Hochul's aide was charged with spying for the CCP.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Oh, well, I'm very good. Let me, I mean, for being strung out on heroin. Let me play. Did you hear Eric Weinstein, what, the podcast he was on, Modern Wisdom? I didn't hear the clip. I was reading about it, though. Okay. You really, this is a good podcast that you should probably listen to.

A lot of wisdom there, a lot of wisdom. And it's kind of what we've been saying for a while now. But I don't know. Eric says it, and it just seems much, much smarter. It's kind of like, you know, Eric is much, much smarter. But if he had an English accent, it'd be game over. Everybody would listen to everything he has to. say. So here he is on Donald Trump. Listen. I don't know whether, I don't know whether Donald Trump

will be allowed to become president. What do you mean by that? I think that there's a remarkable story and we're in a funny game, which is, are we allowed to say what that story is? Because to say it, to analyze it, to name it, is to bring it into view. I think we don't understand why. I think we don't understand why the censorship is behaving the way it is. We don't understand why it's in the shadows. We don't understand why our news is acting in a bizarre fashion. So let's just set the stage, given that that was in February. There is something that I think Mike Benz is just referred to as the rules-based international order. It's an interlocking series of agreements, tacit understandings, explicit understandings, clandestine understandings, about

how the most important structures keep the world free of war and keep markets open. And there has been a system in place, whether understood explicitly or behind the scenes or implicitly, it says that the purpose of the two American parties is to prune the field of populist candidates so that whatever two candidates exist in a face-off, are both acceptable to that world order. So what you're trying to do from the point of view, let's take it from the point of view of, let's say the State Department,

the intelligence community, the defense department, and major corporations that have to do with international issues from arms trade to, oh, I don't know, food. They have a series of agreements that are fragile and could be overturned if a president entered the Oval Office who didn't agree with them in the mood of the country was, why do we pay taxes into these structures? Why are we hamstrung? Why aren't we a free people? So what the two parties would do is that they would run primaries. You'd have populist candidates

and you'd pre-commit the populist candidates to support the candidates who won the primaries. As long as that took place and you had two candidates that were both acceptable to the international order, that is that they aren't going to rethink NAFTA or NATO or what have you. We called that democracy. And so democracy was the illusion of choice, what's called magician's choice, where the choice is not actually, you know, pick a card any card, but somehow the magician makes sure that the card that you pick is the one that he knows. In that situation, you have magician's choice in the primaries, and then you'd have the

duopoly field, two candidates, either of which was acceptable, and you could actually afford to hold an election. And the populace would vote. And that way, the international order wasn't put at risk every four years because you can't have alliances that are subject to the whim of the people in plebiscites. So under that structure, everything was going fine until 2016. And then the first candidate ever to not hold any position in the military nor position in government in the history of the Republic to enter the Oval Office, Donald Trump broke through the prime. structure. So then there was a full court press. Okay, we only have one candidate that's acceptable to the international order. Donald Trump will be under constant pressure that he's a loser, he's a wild

man, he's an idiot, and he's under control of the Russians. And then he was going to be a, you know, a 20 to one underdog. And then he wins. And there was no precedent for this. They learned their lesson. You cannot afford to have candidates who are not acceptable to the international order and continue to have these alliances. This is an unsolved problem. Now, I've been saying for a long time, they're going to kill him because it upsets their plans and he's the one standing in the way because he won't play their game. Now, Eric may have expressed this. Express this. in a more understandable way, but he's absolutely right,

100% right. And that's why, honestly, they're playing the game in the Democratic Party where you didn't get a choice. You didn't have a primary. You didn't have a primary. And that's because the president's going to run, but the president can't run.

So now you didn't have a primary, and you have the most unpopular candidate ever. She's never been, she was never popular. She wasn't popular just two months ago. But now, oh my gosh, she's hung the moon and the stars. And we don't know anything about what she plans on doing. Okay, all right. But she won't upset the international order.

She won't upset the plans that places like the WEF and the United Nations and now all of the Western leadership has come up with. But you'll notice those plans are extremely unpopular with the people all around the world. Every Western country now is in turmoil because they're doing the same thing to them that they're doing to us, and that is collapse us. Now, I believe this to be true. I believe they'll do anything to stop him from winning. they would put us into chaos. They would put us into civil war before they would have him win.

They'd put us in World War before they'd have him. And Donald Trump, I just, please, Mr. President, please. They've tried to kill you once. Please, don't make it worse. Don't make it worse. Yesterday, he was on a podcast and he was on the Lex Friedman podcast. And he got a lot of questions from Lex on, you know, foreign policy, et cetera, et cetera, the future going forward. You know, he started talking about, you know, the Kennedy files and how

the Kennedy files, he kept classified because it was a protection of people, which I'm not sure is exactly accurate. I don't know what's in the Kennedy files, but I've talked to people who have seen it and they have led me to believe that it is not about people. It's about institutions, but who knows. But Trump said, you know, I probably would not release the Kennedy files. However, Stu, what's the one thing you could say as a presidential candidate that's pretty much guaranteed that you, you're dead. Well,

you're going to release the Epstein files. Yes, yes. And that would be. Yes. Yes. But I am going to release the Epstein files and the client list.

It's very strange for a lot of people that the list of clients that went to the island has not been made public. Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it? Said Donald Trump. It probably will be.

He said, I'll take a look at it on the client list. But yeah, I'm inclined to do the Epstein thing. I'd have no problem with releasing that list. Okay. All right. All right. Remember, Donald Trump is definitely not suicidal. But if they could put him in jail, he might become suicidal.

And some cameras might go down. Oh my gosh. Who. It's happened before. This is... Oh, it did? Yeah, yeah. It's happened before.

Really? But not related to Epstein. No, right? I'm sure not. No, okay. The philanthropist? No, no. The philanthropist.

Yeah. Do we have this clip here? Do you want to hear it on? Yeah. Yeah, here we go. But a lot of big people went to that island. But fortunately, I was not one of them. It's just very strange for a lot of people that the list of clients that went to the island has not been made public.

Yeah, it's very interesting, isn't it? Probably will be, by the way. So if you were able to, you'll be... Yeah, I'd certainly take a look at it. Now, Kennedy's interesting because it's so many years ago. You know, they do that for danger, too, because, you know, endangers certain people, et cetera, et cetera. so Kennedy is very different from the Epstein thing but yeah I'd be inclined to do the Epstein I'd have no problem with it um it's currently with the FBI and it's under the control of

one person at the FBI so what could possibly go wrong with that if it disappears that would be unfortunate wouldn't it Stu and completely unexpected Yeah, it would be shocking. That would be a shocking development. Would be. You know, sometimes, look, sometimes people lose documents, you know. Happens all the time. Oops, I just dropped it in the shredder.

Yeah. I didn't. My daughter lost her homework just last week. And it was a rough day at school. I think, you know, this happens to people all the time. There are shredders all over the place. You sometimes, sometimes you get up in the morning and you almost accidentally, you're thinking, I'm going to step into the shower and you almost step into the shredder.

It happens. It happens. It happens all the time. Another example is, I mean, you noted yesterday that your neighbor's property was on fire. What happened if a fire broke out? What happened? Where that document was. Oh, man. In the safe.

In the safe at the FBI. Yeah. Sometimes, you know, fires can happen anywhere, Glenn. You know, sometimes there's little fires that just start up in safes and, you know. I knew we shouldn't have put it in the same. safe where we keep the matches and the Gremlin. Exactly. I don't know what we were thinking.

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Anybody who calls election fraud in Venezuela is in trouble. and anybody who is sharing information, just exactly like what is happening in England, if you're sharing information about what's really happening with a migrant crisis over there, that you could actually go to jail. Now, Brazil is cracking down on X and any dissenters, but why are they doing it now and why should you care? One of the strongest voices and truly an American hero, Michael Schellenberger, is with us. He is the author of San Francisco, and he is also the founder of Public on Substack.

Michael, welcome to the program. Hey, good to be with you, Glenn. Thank you so much. So can you explain to the American people what's going on and why they should care? Sure. So, I mean, you may think Brazil is long ways away. Doesn't have anything to do with us. But everything that Brazil is doing in censorship has been endorsed.

by Kamala Harris and Tim Walz. Kamala Harris and Tim Walz said that we should first denser election information that they don't approve of, that we should de-platform political leaders, namely Donald Trump, and that those bans on political leaders should be across all social media platforms. In other words, if you get banned at Twitter,

then you should also be banned at Facebook. You should be banned on Instagram, TikTok, every single social media platform. That's called cross-platform ban. That's exactly what Brazil is doing right now. When Elon Musk refused to go along with it, they shut off X. It's now blocks in Brazil. It's banned.

You can break the law by using a VPN, a virtual private network to get around the block in Brazil. But that is illegal. And there is an almost $9,000 a day fine for Brazilians if they do that. this is totalitarianism. I mean, this is, people think totalitarianism is just tanks and torture chambers. Never starts that way. It starts with depriving people of freedom of speech. And that's what's happening in Brazil, and it's happening all around the world,

and it is a grave risk of it arriving here in a big way. So, Michael, I got in a lot of trouble about four years ago for saying what is coming is a digital ghetto. just as the Nazis put Jews behind a wall and said, you can talk all you want here, but nobody can hear you because there's a wall. Nobody sees you. Nobody hears you. What's being developed is a digital ghetto.

And we're there. We're there. Are we not? We're getting there. I mean, I think that what's game changing is Elon Musk's ownership of X. We also saw Mark Zuckerberg apologize for the censorship that he engaged in. Didn't go far enough in my view. No.

Facebook is still censoring disfavored views. But, you know, we still have the First Amendment here. I pointed out a few days ago in Barack Obama two years ago gave a speech at Stanford where he proposed government censorship of social media platforms. And how did he propose doing it by amending the Constitution? Because he and many Democrats, I'm sad to say, believe that the First Amendment is an obstacle, is a problem that they need to get rid of and solve in order to have mass censorship, which, of course, Glenn, as you know, gives them control over elections. Naturally, they're doing this in the name of saving democracy, but any attack on free speech is an attack on democracy.

And that's what Barack Obama, Kamala Harris, and Tim Walt have all endorsed. And this is really, it kind of started with Brazil where they got serious about X, with people who were questioning the legitimacy of the election of Lula, correct? Yeah, that's right. It's very similar to here. There was concerns around election, fraud, around not counting, you know, mischief around the ballot boxes, all of which would sound very familiar to Americans. And then they said that, well, we have to sense.

or all those concerns about the elections. I was in Brazil. I'm actually under criminal investigation in Brazil for the Twitter files, Brazil. The Attorney General recommended that I be prosecuted by the Supreme Court for publishing entirely accurate and legal Twitter files about Brazil censorship. And one of the arguments I had was journalists, because, of course, journalists are, or mainstream journals are advocates of censorship. It's the most Orwellian thing in the world.

But one of the things they would say is, well, we have to censor election information. I would ask them, how would you ever know if somebody stole the election if the same government that stole the election is also now censoring the evidence showing that they stole the election? Right. I mean, the worst people to be the gatekeepers of truth are the people who have demonstrated throughout all time that they are the biggest and most powerful liars, the government. They cannot be the gatekeeper of truth and disinformation and deciding which is which. You know, Michael, I was asked to go down to Brazil for their independence day, which is coming up.

and my attorney said, you can't go. We can't guarantee that you'd be allowed to go. And I haven't done anything that I know of. But that's the situation Elon Musk is in. That's a situation that you're finding yourself in to where you have published the truth and shown these things to be true. And now, if you go into Brazil, do you fear that you would be taken? Well, I'm going to find out tomorrow. Are you going?

I'm flying to Brazil tomorrow. I will land at 7.40 in the morning, South Paulo time, on September 6th. I have an attorney in South Paulo. If I am detained at the airport, my attorney will be there and we will fight it. But no, I'm certainly not going to back down. You know, never back down against a bully. Yeah. This is not just about Brazil anymore.

This is about we have to stop the totalitarianism abroad before it, before it arrives here in a big way. And that's why I'm going down there. And I'm going to join them to celebrate Brazil's independence and also celebrate Brazil's commitment to freedom because it's constitution protects free speech. Well, now you're shaming me. The evidence, you came out with some evidence that the U.S. was colluded. with the Brazilian government to ban X and to go after Elon Musk. Is Ben's right about the current state department or embassies from the United States actively being involved right now?

We can, I think it's safe to assume that that's happening. In terms of hard proof, what we have is, a lot of money flowing from this outfit called the National Endowment for Democracy into pro-censorship organizations in Brazil, including these fake fact-checking organizations, which are all about creating justifications for censorship. And it's quite, it should be a shame. I mean, it's actually, it's illegal because, of course,

the First Amendment of our Constitution says that the government shall take no actions to bridge freedom of speech. that goes worldwide. We're not allowed to support freedom of speech with U.S. taxpayer money. Now, is it the only thing, you know, that's going on? I mean, of course not. I mean, Brazil is its own country. It has, you know, this criminal dictator named Alessandre Jim Mordaise, you know,

and Lula, who are now the de facto dictators of Brazil. He was a mob lawyer. He was the lawyer for the biggest criminal syndicate in South Poliore. follow. He's as corrupt as anybody. He got his job. He almost certainly got his job by blackmailing a former president over some, without getting into much the details, you know, basically a sex scandal. So these are, there's a, there's an independent, obviously dynamic in Brazil, but of course, it's immoral for us to be supporting crooks and, and mafia lawyers and dictators. we need to stop doing that.

And unfortunately, when I testified in front of Congress about Brazil in May, the Democrats all defended censorship. And now we've seen Robert Reich, the former Labor Secretary of Clinton, has called for Elon Musk to be arrested. We've seen Mark Rufalo, the Marvel Action Hulk actor. And we've seen Keith Ellison all praising Brazil's censorship. Yeah. So we're that's that's the totalitarianism emerges from within the elites within the ruling class.

So when you start seeing the ruling class debating censorship like they're doing, we should all be very frightened. So let me ask you, Michael. I mean, I don't I don't think it's a coincidence that, you know, everybody on the on the left said that Bolsonaro was like Donald Trump and was going to become a dictator. and then they put up a communist who becomes the dictator. And they, you know, they're working through the courts, which our country is trying to change the makeup of our Supreme Court. Is there anything to be said? I just feel like in England, you know, if you retweet something

or you post something that they don't like, they have made the claim that they'll come for you, anywhere. And what's happening is they're coming for people in Brazil. Is this part of a global strategy to kind of become, to take care of problems in our country? You know, they have a real problem with Elon Musk by having Brazil take care of it or, you know, arresting you for something that you might have posted in in you know on the internet and it went to england it was a violation of their laws it just seems like the world uh speech police uh are at the beginning phase of something very frightening yeah that's right and it does appear to be a a pattern whereby the europeans

the brazilians the canadians the irish the australians they're all trying to censor X with support from the U.S. government in a variety of ways. The goal is clearly to control the information environment. And they can't do it. It's harder for them to do it directly because we have this thing called the First Amendment. So they're trying to do it indirectly through the back door. Yes. And so we've seen constantly, they've been demanding that not only the content be censored in Brazil or in Australia,

they want it to be censored here in the United States as well. So it's a global totalitarianism. We've never approached this. The closest we've ever imagined it was Georgia Orwell's 1984. You know, it's one, the problem, of course, is that you have a few big social media monopolies that control basically all the information. And if they get, if the government, the deep state, the intelligence agencies, the security agencies, get control over social media platforms, that none of us are free.

We're absolutely, we're completely living in a totalitarian society. Michael, I can't thank you enough for everything that you've done with the Twitter files. And I really believe you are such an important voice. Elon Musk, I don't know if we would stand a chance if it wasn't for Elon Musk right now and what he's doing. if Twitter was still in the hands of the others like it was before, I think we'd be a very different world right now. We pray for both of you. Please let us know, Michael, what happens when you get to the airport.

We'll be following that. And if there's anything we can do to help, I'd love to have you back on the air in short order telling us how we can help. What should we be asking for? But I'm up against the clock, and thank you so much, Michael. Thank you, Glenn. I appreciate you. You bet. Bye-bye.

This is something that is so critically important, and I don't think America gets it yet. But please follow me on this and Michael and be very well aware. We're entering a new terrifying phase. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Tonight on my Wednesday night special, Venezuelan gangs, which A week ago, everybody was like, that's not real. They're now

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And they're at the highest level. We now find out that we have Kathy Hockel's assistant, the governor of California, a high level advisor, has been being paid by the Chinese government to help them out. How much is your citizenship worth? How much would you sell your country out for? Peter Swizer is here to tell us any details that he has. He's been following the Chinese infiltration for a very long time.

Welcome, Peter. How are you? Hey, I'm great, Glenn. Always good to be with you. Thanks for having me. Thank you. So in your book, Blood Money, Why the Powerful Turn a Blind Eye while China kills Americans, you talk about how many, and both on the Republican and the Democratic side, how many people are selling their souls to China.

Tell me about this case. What do you know about it? Yeah, so Linda Sun was the Deputy Chief of Staff for Kathy Hochel. Before that, she served for years in senior positions for Andrew Cuomo. She was his chief deputy chief diversity officer, for example. And essentially what she's being charged with in a 60-page indictment is getting millions of dollars. from the Chinese government and from the CCP. And she took her position and used it for the benefit of China.

So, for example, she blocked representatives from the Taiwanese government from even having access to the governor's office. She altered state messages that were important to Chinese officials. So she'd literally change a message to benefit them. She also helped Chinese officials travel to the United States. She issued unauthorized invitations that weren't approved by anyone else that allowed government officials to come into the United States. And she gave Chinese officials access to private New York government conversations during the COVID-19 crisis, explaining how they were going to respond. She would actually patch them in on these high-level group telephone calls.

And in exchange for that, according to prosecutors, she received a lot of benefits from the Chinese government. She was able to buy a $4.1 million long island home, a $2.1 million condo in Hawaii. She and her husband also bought a 2024 Ferrari Roma. And I guess maybe my personal favorites is Glenn. She's also accused of getting 16 meals that were prepared by a Chinese government chef. They were Nanjing-style salted duck, which was pretty good to me. Yeah, I mean, it changes. You know, once you hear the salted duck thing that she got 16 of them, you think, well, you know, maybe, maybe.

It changes things dramatically. Why did it take so long for this to become a parent? What does her husband do, by the way? Do you know? Well, her husband, her husband in New York ran a sort of export import business, a little bit vague. But the other thing, Glenn, is that she apparently, according to the indictments, think about this, she's a senior state official for Andrew Cuomo and the current governor of New York. She apparently ran her own business in China, in mainland China, which is where she was born.

She's a naturalized U.S. citizen. But she actually had a business in China that nobody knew about it. And the Chinese government also apparently gave her cousin a cushy job. That is mentioned among the indictments as well. How many more are there? How widespread is this, Peter? Oh, it's a massive problem. And look, this is something you and I have been talking about since 2018.

You've talked about it on Blaze TV, and that is that they have avoided really enforcing the Foreign Agents Registration Act, which requires if you do anything to benefit a foreign government or a foreign government linked business, you are required to file with the Department of Justice. And they didn't really support this law at all. And then, of course, they've used it against various Republicans, which, you know, look, if they're guilty of it, they're guilty of it. They should be charged.

But it's been selective. This case was a long time coming. And, of course, there is that, I think, strong case. for these same violations that took place by Hunter Biden. It's millions of dollars. And yet, from the Chinese. With anything. Yeah.

Correct. Yep. Correct. By the Chinese, by the Ukrainians, by the Russians. I think you could make a fair case in every one of those instances when it relates to Hunter Biden. And the Department of Justice now in their tax case against Hunter Biden has even said that he was running a foreign influence peddling scheme.

but he has yet to be charged under this Foreign Agents Registration Act, which is what Melinda's son has now been charged with. And he got more than salted duck. Well, maybe, I mean, I saw some of the videos. He might have, anyway, let's move on. You know, Peter, I can't thank you enough for all of the work that you have done. My mood never improves after talking to you. but I am appreciative of the knowledge. Can I get a read from you on how optimistic are you that we can turn things around with this election?

I'm cautiously optimistic. You know, look, I mean, the bottom line is we have to be realist. You know, the reminder here is that we don't want to be optimistic. because you're naive, but you don't want to be pessimistic because then you just give a fall hope. And the bottom line is I do think that, look, there are people around Trump that have Chinese connections, but there are also people around Trump that recognize this problem. And I believe those are in the closer inner circle.

When you look at Kamala Harris and Tim Walls, I mean, Tim Walls does not get, did not get money from the Chinese, but he fits the definition of a fellow traveler. And my fear is that with him as vice president, because he had exchange programs with China for 30 years, they'll make him the point person on China policy. And then, God forbid, I think we're going to be in deep trouble. So going to be a deep trouble. Peter, when you look at everything that is going on and what they are now admitting to and saying, you know, we're going to do price controls, we're going to do unrealized gains tax. you know, their stance on war, their stance on everything. I mean, there is no way that if that's your plan,

which is coming together oh so nicely, especially when it comes to controlling free speech all around the world, and we're involved with it in England and in Brazil, there's no way that Donald Trump, that they could allow him to win. because he really is the only thing standing in the way of all of these very nefarious plans. Yeah, I mean, this is the weird place that we are in America, Glenn, where you have, you know, Donald Trump, who sort of breaks all molds. And one of the people that's vigorously supporting him is Robert Kennedy Jr., who also breaks a lot of molds.

And they just, they will disagree on certain policy positions, but the point of it, is they recognize the essential problem. And the essential problem is this desire for control and dominance, where the left has essentially been fused with corporate America. Big government and big business are not enemies. They're actually allies. And this is the place that we find ourselves. And I think what the Harris campaign is really trying to do is bank that a sizable portion

of the American population, voting population, is going to be ignorance. So they play this game where they talk about these policy prescriptions that really don't have widespread popularity. You know, this tax on unrealized games is just ridiculous. But they're obscuring it enough to where they think that a lot of people won't even be aware that that is her position.

That's the game that they're playing. And I still want to have enough faith in America that people are going to see through that and understand what's going on. Yeah. I hope so, Peter, thank you so much. God bless you. Keep on the trail. You bet. Peter Swiser, investigative journalist who used to be one of the most beloved investigative journalist when it came to government corruption because he rats out both sides. That's not good enough anymore. You can only rat out one side and it has to be the conservatives. If you do it to the other side,

you're over. But luckily, his books are well read by, millions of Americans. So he continues to do his job. Nah, nah, nah. We'll say, in the phone, all the world can be a guy of the finance. Not to have a gross monger in

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