The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Neil Howe & J.P. Decker | 8/28/23

Episode Date: August 28, 2023

Mercury One executive director J.P. Decker joins to discuss the distrust Maui citizens have toward all government, even local, as the names of those still missing are being withheld. Historian and aut...hor of “The Fourth Turning Is Here” Neil Howe joins to explain what turnings are and when our current era of civil unrest will end. Will we soon have to deal with new COVID-19 policies? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:51 The author of The Fourth Turning is here, and the original Fourth Turning, he is fantastic. A lot of real hope on how our country will survive all on today's podcast. You're listening to The Best of the Glenback program. There's a couple of things going on to we should report. First of all, the power company, the Hawaiian Electric Company, has removed all of the, you know, all of the transformers and the poles and the wires and some would call it evidence.
Starting point is 00:01:41 But they've removed all of that from the scene. And they said that's, they only did that because, well, they don't own any of the land. You know, they're just beyond the power substation. So they wanted to clean it up, make sure that everything was good. They said they took pictures, though. So that's good. That's good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:02 You know, pictures worth a thousand words, Glenn. Yeah, it really is. What a surprise. This is a, you know, public, private. in partnership with the government too. Yeah. Yeah. I'm really surprised.
Starting point is 00:02:11 It didn't work out really well. It never does. Never does. They never seem to do their job. By the way, they only released, what was it, 300 names of the missing on Friday. There's 1,100 people still missing. And, I mean, I don't know why they're saying it that way. It's, I mean, it's not that big of an island.
Starting point is 00:02:35 I hate to be. I don't mean to be. palace on this, but it's not that big of an, it's not like, it's not like somebody, you know, is wandering off and is lost or whatever. I mean, it's not that big. And, you know, it would, what would it be? Yeah. Somebody with Alzheimer's maybe. Okay. Yeah. That's a possibility, right. A kid, maybe, maybe, but I doubt it. I mean, yeah, but it's possible. Theoretically possible. Because, yeah, why would you be missing? Or somebody who's like just trying to disappear. Right. Yeah. You know, faking their death.
Starting point is 00:03:07 I mean, out of that many missing. Certainly not understand it. Certainly not 5%, right? No. Like, what is the number here? I mean, God, and you think about this, if all these people that are missing are gone, I mean, you know, this is a horrible. I mean, and this might be why they're holding it back. Like, they don't want people to, to really, you know, come to the point where they recognize what's happened here.
Starting point is 00:03:33 This is maybe, I don't know. I don't know what it is. J.P. Decker, he is Mercury One's executive director. He was an executive producer for me and a producer for a very long time. He's now over at Mercury One. And I believe you leave Hawaii today. Do you not? J.P. Yes, sir. Yeah. Yeah, I leave tonight. So is there any explanation why they are still holding these names? Glenn, I have, you know, we've been here almost five days. And that is one thing that, every single local it's confused on that we've spoken with. I've spoken with a lot of people and they said, we don't trust anyone. We do not trust what's coming out of the government. We don't trust what's coming out of not just the state of Hawaii, but the county and then also our federal government.
Starting point is 00:04:21 How do they not? I mean, that is terrifying that they don't even believe the county. No, and. Go ahead. No, no, go ahead. Well, it's just one word, though, about the locals is that, come up while we're, you know, talking with some of these stories are just, again, horrific. But these are some of the most resilient people I've ever met in my life.
Starting point is 00:04:45 They, yesterday, just a quick story yesterday, we, we connected with this surfer. He's a pretty famous surfer on the island. And they said, hey, you know, we're getting a shipment from one of the other islands of surfboards and fishing equipment. And I said, well, one, And we went and helped. We were in the water. We were pulling surfboards off the boat. We were doing, you know, getting fishing supplies. And I said, what is going on here? And they said, most of these kids lost their surfboards in the mental health crisis that is here right now from seeing people burning in cars. It's going to bring this community back to what we know and we love. And so this guy is going to take kids, surfboards that were donated from other islands. And then the fishing, these local fishermen who lost literally everything. These are the guys who go out and buy the fish for all the tourists. And speaking with these people, and for me, yesterday we were at church, Harvest Church,
Starting point is 00:05:52 which is one of our partners, one of the worship leaders' wives who lost everything in this fire. And crying out, and they're singing this one of these songs, and it's about how God is still in control in this disaster. And it was a powerful moment for me. I think this is the first time that I finally broke down from seeing the damage and seeing this isn't just another story in the news cycle that's going to disappear. These are our people. And the fact that the government, to one, block everyone from going back in still, there's a few people that have been able to go back in and look at their homes.
Starting point is 00:06:47 But it's gone past, we have to drive through part of Lina every single day if we want to get to another part of the island. And you see the destruction and you smell the smoke still. You smell the ashes and, you know, those black walls that are going up on the road that everyone says big ashes is all this. And it's what we've learned. What we've seen across the whole island are those black walls are so that ashes is left of any of those human remains don't get lost. It's just, it's devastating, Glenn. Devastating. I know, you know, people ran into the water. And how many people, I mean, how far in the water did they go? I hear some of them were in the water for eight or ten hours just treading water.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Is that true? Oh, yeah. There's coming down towards the ocean, and she had to run, jump in the ocean with a big group of people. She doesn't know how many, but a big group of people, and they all jump in. They treaded water and swam one around her drowned. Oh, my gosh. She's trying to rescue these people, these kids, these dads, these moms. She couldn't do anything. And so she just, she just tried to tread and swim,
Starting point is 00:08:21 but everyone around her drowned, they ended up finding her eight hours later, alive, this lady, a mile off the coast. This shouldn't have happened this way. How, how did they're not? Where were the people? Yeah, where were the, where were the coast card boats or whatever boats? What, why? Yeah. What happened? Every single local that I have spoken to are asking the same question. They're asking, you know, we've got installments all around this area on all these islands. Where was the military? And, you know, we've heard stories of some Navy Seals coming in and, you know, just helping. And then some Chinooks that came in and helped try to rescue.
Starting point is 00:09:00 And the Coast Guard came in later on to try to help. But we did confirm with a couple locals who ran out that the police were so scared of the power lines that fell through the wind that people were not allowed to get out. of Lahaina and during these fires because the police were blocking off because they didn't want them to run into the power lines that were still alive. Which is the job of the power company that always happens. A power line goes down and you shut everything off. Why didn't they shut it off? They don't want to, they haven't come out yet and said anything.
Starting point is 00:09:41 They don't want to incriminate. I mean, they don't want to say. The other day, we were eating at a local restaurant and we smelled a fire. This was the one that you probably might have heard about, but there was a pretty large grass fire that was going towards Lahaina. And so we smelled it. And then what's interesting, though, we're at this restaurant and there's a FEMA person, there's a Red Cross person.
Starting point is 00:10:08 There's a guy who lost everything. And then there's a former Doctors Without Borders person. person and she was here volunteering. The power goes out, didn't know quite what to do, which was interesting. I mean, and then the guy who lost his home, there is no escape route. The local team on this side, there's no hospital on this side of the island. You have to go 45 minutes if something were to happen. And we've heard stories of some of the burn victims who ended up getting in those, the two ambulances on this side of the island. It's trying to get to a hospital. So, I mean, what we're doing with Mercury 1 is incredible because within the first 48 hours, we sent a tech team, one of our incredible partners, the name is ITDRC, and they showed up with communicating to the outside world that we're still alive, to their families and friends in the mainland.
Starting point is 00:11:37 And one nonprofit that came in and provided Internet, and the government did nothing. They ended up providing Internet for the government. community because they told us the other day we can cut the red tape we have no red tape but the government has the red tape so that's where they come to us and you know we were one of the first ones of sparyans purse to send in a cargo plane of supplies food water and right now this island doesn't need the food and water what they needed the mental health there's already been about five or six suicides and that's just when you lose everything including your family including your family.
Starting point is 00:12:21 But the mental health side is something that we're going to be focused on. And we spoke with a local restaurant the other day. And he just, again, Glenn, you know, we brought cameras to help tell the story of what Mercury 1 and our partners have been doing on the ground, what we're going to do. Because we're not here just for a small amount of time. We're here for the long haul. We don't, I mean, when you started this, you said we're in the first one's in, last one's out. That's what we do.
Starting point is 00:12:47 And so we, you know, I was talking about the restaurant and he just breaks down. And, you know, we didn't have the cameras with us. And you see, you know, all these people have been coming in with cameras. They've just been coming in and just want to take our story and then we just leave again. And we've had business guys. This is what this guy said. Businessmen come in with wads of cash, drop it on our table and say, I'll buy you out. And I will, I will, you know, just buy you.
Starting point is 00:13:09 This guy has put up 20 of his staff in his restaurant. He's been providing hundreds of meals a day to people. I tried to offer some help, and he said, I don't want help. He goes, what I want is for you to help other people, you, you to help my neighbors. And when we say 100% goes, and that's usually what I would tell these people, hey, we're not your normal nonprofit. We're not a profit who takes overhead. We want to give 100% to this island. And that's what we do.
Starting point is 00:13:41 That's the most powerful thing that, and they're shocked at it. I know you take overhead all this. No, we don't. But I think, you know, anyways, I know I'm telling so many different stories, but this is, this is one for me personally. It's changed my life on what community looks like. These people are exactly what community. They're the definition of Ohana, which means family. And that is community.
Starting point is 00:14:06 JP, thank you so much, Mercury One executive director coming home today. but as he said, our people and all of the charities we support will be the last ones out. So please, if you'd like to help us, all you have to do is go to mercury1.org and donate to our disaster relief fund. It's mercury1.org. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and don't forget, rate us on iTunes. Neil, welcome to the program. I am a huge fan. your book, the
Starting point is 00:14:44 fourth turning, made a huge impact in my life. Well, thank you, Glenn. It's great to be on your show. Thank you. So the fourth turning is here. I have been reading and I, before
Starting point is 00:15:01 we get to, the fourth turning is here. Can you explain the turnings, if you will? Yeah, this was something that Bill and I developed. Actually, we did an early book back in 1991 called Generations, and it was really looking at generations as the source of a historical change, meaning, you know, generations are shaped differently.
Starting point is 00:15:26 You know, each generation is uniquely shaped by its childhood experiences and as it comes of age, right? It's experiences coming of age. And then about 30 or 40 years later, as parents and leaders, they in turn shape history, right? Right. And we, generations is the first collective biography of America that anyone had ever written, that is to say, retelling the entire story of America as a sequence of generational biographies, right? In other words, following the same group of people throughout their entire life and then starting with the next group of people. And what we found was that generations are very different. This has always been true. It's not just, you know, Xers and boomers, or millennials and Xers.
Starting point is 00:16:10 were accustomed to today or boomers and their World War II parents, right? Right. Deep differences have been with us since the founding since the 17th century. And what occurred to us as we were writing that book is that this is the source of some of the otherwise unexplainable American history. I mean, for example, the fact that we have these enormous periods of entry goes through politics and economics, we really redefine what our republic is. And this happens about the length of a long human life apart, right? We had this period of revolution and rebellion in the late 17th century,
Starting point is 00:17:06 kind of coinciding with a glorious revolution. And then about a lifetime later, we had the American revolution. Then we had the Civil War. Then we had World War II in the Great Depression. And here we are again, Glenn. You know what I mean? This is like the ticking of a talk. you know, we're roughly halfway in between these upheavals in the outer world, when we redefine politics and economics and infrastructure and all that, we have these upheavals in the inner world, which very conveniently in American history we number. So we call them the first grade awakening, the second great awakening, and so forth. And this struck us as having very interesting generational roots, generational continuity, right? Because it's generations that come of age during
Starting point is 00:17:54 an awakening that later really take America into the next crisis. Generations which, you know, come of age during a crisis usually preside over the next awakening later in life. And this has been true since, you know, Ralph Waldo Emerson and Walt Whitman, a generation of prophets and religion founders and and, you know, commune leaders and who, and it was true for the generation born just after the Civil War who took us really were the wise old men and women of the World War II era. But it suggests a rhythm, and that's what we wanted to write about. Now, this rhythm has four phases. It's kind of like seasons of the year.
Starting point is 00:18:48 if you look at the spring season, this is the period in which, you know, institutions are strong, individualism is weak. And this is what we, recently in American history, we all recall the American high. This was after World War II, right? This was the presidencies of Truman and Eisenhower and John Kennedy. Society had a very definite idea of where it wanted to go collectively. But as individuals, we were very modest. right, about what we wanted. It was, as William White wrote in the organization, man, people had a strong social ethic. The duty of each individual is to fit in. I mean, that's what we're supposed to do, right?
Starting point is 00:19:30 Each person had a job to do based on gender, based on, you know, your, your, your aptitude for different kind of profession. And that was it. You didn't have much aspirations beyond that. We were modest individually, but the nation did incredible things collectively. I mean, everything from interstate highways to launching the Apollo moon launch programming. And we managed to balance the budget every year, right, while feeding the world and presiding over that period of growing global order and prosperity. The second turning was the awakening, and that was the period that many listeners probably remember, maybe as kids.
Starting point is 00:20:18 This was the, you know, 60s, 70s, early 80s. And this was a period when all of the American wanted to throw off all that social obligation, all that conformity, all those rules. And it started really with, started more on the left. There's no question about that, mainly in the culture, throwing off, you know, patriarchy and military conscription and all the rest. And it ended, I think, a little bit more on the conservative side, you know, throwing out regulations, cutting taxes and all the rest.
Starting point is 00:20:50 And so, but the one theme was we wanted to be a less ordered society. We wanted individuals to kind of go more of their own way. And the biggest nightmare for boomers at that time was the oppressive middle class, right? Fuzzin Valley Sunday, that was their worst nightmare. And they talked to millennials today, it's like middle class. Sounds like a great idea. Where do we sign up? You see the difference, right?
Starting point is 00:21:21 And then you have the third turning, which is, we call an unraveling, and that's in many ways the opposite of a high. Individualism is strong and flourishing. Institutions are weak and discredited. And when we think of paradigmatic decades of an unraveling, we think of the roaring 90s and the 1990s. We also think of the roaring 20s, the 1890s. These were all decades of cynicism and bad manners acting out in the culture, disrespecting authority. And in general, my kind of the key book of the 1990s to me was Francis Fukuyama. You remember the end of history.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Yeah. We were all, yeah, the government was going to fade away. We would all be individuals living wherever in the world. We wanted, I guess, you know, on our laptops and a Starbucks somewhere just contracting with each other and enjoying infinite possibilities, right? We wouldn't have families. We wouldn't have roots. We wouldn't have, right? That was the image, right?
Starting point is 00:22:31 Of a world of individuals that would need anything. And so individualism totally triumphed, no institution or community left. But history shows us that third turnings inevitably lead to fourth turnings. And that's when instead of wanting to rebel against order, society wants more order. And that's what we're living into today. And the cutting edge generation for the awakening was boomers, but the cutting edge generation now is millennials. And they want more order's life. I mean, you see it.
Starting point is 00:23:09 They want more community. Their greatest fear is loneliness. It's FOMO. You know what I mean? Yep. And the way they invest is crowded. investing. I mean, they're all in these huge, you know, everything, ETFs, right? So the market goes up or down. They all go down, up and down together. And the entire world is being buffeted by this.
Starting point is 00:23:32 And we see this in these new populist movements around the world, often overtly authoritarian, because people want authority back again. It's as simple as that. And we've seen this before, and we're seeing it again. And so the purpose of, as you know, the purpose of my writing the book is to take this up to date, to bring it up to today. Right. And to hypothesize a little bit on where we're going and what the schedule is and what we're expect. Okay. So, you know, there's three theories out there that I have kind of melded into one.
Starting point is 00:24:13 yours, and I don't know if you've read Michael Drew's work, Pendulum, how past generations shape our present and predict our future. He describes it as a pendulum and describes much of what you guys worked out. But he shows it's an 80-year cycle. You're showing it's an 80-year cycle. And then the third theory that I've always found interesting is the Kondrachia of Wave, which is also an 80-year cycle. and and it's all spring, uh, summer, the arrogance of summer.
Starting point is 00:24:47 It's never going to end into, uh, fall, you know, hey, let's deny this, deny this. Oh,
Starting point is 00:24:54 it looks like everything is dying to winter. And then the green shoots again of, of spring. And we are, if I understand, we are now heading into winter, correct? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:25:10 we're, we're, we're, we're, We're well into winter. Well into winter. Yeah, I mean, we started, I think we entered this area. I mean, these are eras.
Starting point is 00:25:19 These are generation-long eras. So these are, you know, 22 years or so. Right. And we entered it with 2008, the global financial crisis, when we saw so many things begin to change. We saw democracy's decline at the expense of authoritarian governments. We saw global trade begin to decline as a share of global product. I mean, in many ways, it was analogous to 1929, right?
Starting point is 00:25:45 Which is also a great global, you know, financial collapse, right? So we've seen that, but we still have a ways to go. Right. And, you know, when Kondrakiov, who was Stalin's economic advisor, when he was asked, what's better capitalism, communism, he said it's seasonal. And you look at things and capitalism is better because communism, when it starts, to go cold into winter, the system props everything up. And so the system falls apart in the end. It can't prop up life. It's got to go in through these cycles. And we're doing that since 2008. We're propping everything up. So it doesn't go into a hard freeze, but we've bastardized everything. And I'm wondering, do they always have to end in like war? Well, typically they have.
Starting point is 00:26:43 You know, every total war in American history has occurred during a fourth turning. And every fourth turning is at a total war. It's a pretty close correspondence. I would say it, you know, I don't like to be a pessimist, so I like to say what it precisely requires is not so much war. What it requires is collective mobilization. on a mass scale. And it's really hard to see how you do that other than sort of organized conflict. But what happens typically is that as society begins to re-seek order, it begins to collectivize again. Today we see in America, blue zone, red zone, right? I mean, this new tribal mentality.
Starting point is 00:27:28 This is what we got during the 1930s. Half of America thought that the 1930s was the red decade. The other half thought it was the fascist decade. know what I'm talking about? I mean, these are the people that said that, you know, Franklin, Stalin, Roosevelt, right? Right. Well, and we have the new movie Oppenheimer out. So we now realize how many of the greatest generation, as young men and women in the early
Starting point is 00:27:54 20s, we're communist. Right. So one thing before we go on to where we're headed, it is interesting to me that America has had these turnings along with all of the way. for instance, American Revolution, the French Revolution. World War II was the same, you know, same thing that was happening over at Germany, was happening over here.
Starting point is 00:28:20 We had different results, but there's the we generation and the me generation. And these things generally happen, do they not in the we generation? We're all collective. We generations are, are made, not born, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:42 I mean, and that's the important part. So how do we avoid what, how do we avoid going in when we have a collective mindset, going into something very un-American? You know, this has been a struggle since the beginning. every time because America is by by its culture and by its heritage a individualist kind of right you know society and war has been difficult for that reason it was difficult for the revolutionaries you know George Washington I implored again and again you know that Congress should then that authorized him for this for this great continental army he needed
Starting point is 00:29:31 to fight the British. And of course, there were a lot of foot draggers and people who didn't want to do that, similarly in the Civil War, similarly in World War II. It was, Roosevelt was very slow to be able to actually enact conscription. Correct. And we came very late to the table, to the fight against fascism. And so it is a problem. And forth turnings, by their very nature of collective mobilization, put democracy to the test. Right. We're already seeing it today in America. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. You know, I don't know how I feel about this story. Israel TV's Channel 12 News released an investigative report about the five red heifers that were just brought to the Jewish state last September and the supposed funneling of government funds to construct the third temple. Now, for those of you who know how the story ends, this could be a very exciting time.
Starting point is 00:30:48 It could also be a very terrifying time. The last month a journalist tweeted about an experiment conducted by Barr Elon University professor Amar, who attempted to determine how many people could be ritually purified by one red heifer. Apparently, one has enough to purify 660 billion people, which, you know, there's not that many. So I don't know why they got the other three had red heifers. but apparently there's the reports now on Israeli TV claiming that there are plans and everything is in place to rebuild the third temple which means if I understand it correctly that that building there on the temple mountain now it's got a gold dome I don't remember what it is exactly
Starting point is 00:31:42 would have to be deconstructed in some way or another I just I just I I just not sure. I think that's a big stumbling block. Really? You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:31:56 I think it's one that's coming. I don't know when, but, you know, you can be prepared. But, you know, it's like,
Starting point is 00:32:02 I'm going to marry, I'm going to marry Stu's wife someday. I've already got the tuxedo. I've got everything ready. Except you haven't really talked to Lisa about it. Yeah. She's still married to Stu and happily married. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Yeah. know. Let's not go crazy for the analogy here. I know, I know. We exaggerating things for the audience. I know. I know what you're mean. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:27 I know what you're trying to say there. I will say that having the extra three-halfers, it's good to be prepared. It is. You know? It's always good to have a little bit extra. I'd like to see the number of how many purifications it can perform a little bit farther away from 660. I know, just a little bit farther away. I mean, is that an accurate?
Starting point is 00:32:48 Could it be maybe? six more? I mean, I'd prefer six less. But I'm just, I'm just saying it. I'm just saying. So Joe Biden is now talking about
Starting point is 00:33:06 everybody getting the new COVID-19 vaccine. And he's requested more funding from Congress. How is this a story? How is it happening? I don't understand. Like, we have this system in the United States. This is my understanding of the system. tell me where I have it wrong because I definitely have it wrong. Yeah, yeah, I do. Like, there are things. The federal government. That's how you get it. That's how you got it wrong.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Okay, good. There are things that happen in life. Yes. They're called illnesses, disease, ailments, all sorts of things. And companies make things that they believe will help alleviate the symptoms, cure them, make all sorts of medicines for all sorts of things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, I understand that. They release them. You go and buy them. You get prescribed these medications. You decide you make the choice as to what you want to do with them. Right. That's how it's, that's always worked. Right. Now, I understand that a pandemic
Starting point is 00:34:02 and what we dealt with COVID was a little bit different than that. And there was a sort of a rush to, hey, we, the government needs to pay for this because, you know, we all, like, it's an emergency and blah, blah, blah. Okay. All right. We were there. We kind of remember that going on. But like, it's 2023 now. Yeah. Why would, why would Joe Biden have anything to do with them releasing a new vaccine? Why, if they want to release a new vaccine?
Starting point is 00:34:29 Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You're saying, if I may, paraphrase. Glenn, where is the pharmaceutical arm of the government in the Constitution? Yes. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Because like if Pfizer or Moderna or Johnson and Johnson,
Starting point is 00:34:46 or any company wants to make a COVID vaccine and put it on the market and go for it. Let people decide whether they want to take it or not. That's a process I understand. The process I don't understand is how we now infinitely pay for all of these vaccines. Like, why? Why are we? Well, let me. Why?
Starting point is 00:35:09 Like, but why? Come to me as a child. And a child always asks, why? Why? Yeah. Yeah. Well, Dr. I'm going to butcher the name.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Dr. J. Badachara. Batacharya. Yeah, we've had him on the show, haven't we? I think we have. You probably butchered his name when he was on the show, too. Sure, I did. He's a professor of medicine at Stanford, one of the co-authors of the Great Barrington Declaration.
Starting point is 00:35:31 He said, the president's comments that all Americans will likely be advised to get a new COVID vaccine as new variant spread is, quote, irresponsible. He said, And the president said, I signed off this morning on a proposal. We have to present to Congress a request for additional funding.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Again, why? Why? Why? We don't need any more funding. Tentatively, not decided finally yet. Tentatively, it is recommended, and it would likely be recommended that everybody get it, no matter whether they got it before. The good doctor said, you know, it's never occurred to me that an American president
Starting point is 00:36:11 would be the number one spokesperson for a pharmaceutical company. But here we are. It's irresponsible to make this kind of public health advice for the entire American public in the absence of excellent randomized trial evidence. We don't even have. Are they even done with this vaccine yet? No. Let alone have it tested. Like, I don't even think they're done with it yet.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Yeah. I think they just are getting to the point where they're, you know, like, putting it into these tests. Again, that's the problem that I pointed out on Friday's program when I played. The commercial for... OZempic, yeah. The very long series of disclaimers. Yeah, which it was 50 seconds of disclaimer. Of the one minute commercial.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Yeah. 5.0. 50 seconds. Oh, oh, Ozambic could cause death. Right. I mean, that's really pretty much what it is. Despite the fact that these studies, what they're talking about are incredibly rare side effects. Correct. affect almost no one who actually takes the medication, but they still have to jam it into
Starting point is 00:37:14 every commercial they do for the product. Correct. Because the federal government requires it. This one doesn't even need a study. We're like, we're fine. You're going to be fine. Shut up. Stop your belly aching.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Or I'll get you something to belly ache about. That's what the government has become. It's such a weird. Like, it doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense. And, you know, like, luckily I think we're in a, at a place at this point where we can do with the government's advice, what we do with all of their other advice when it comes to what we put in our body.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Ignore it completely. Like, when's the last time you looked at the food pyramid? I think they even changed it a few years ago under Obama. Didn't they? There's something else. I don't know. I don't care. They can recommend whatever they want.
Starting point is 00:37:58 That is not, you know, at least it's not them saying they're going to mandate it or anything like that. But even the recommendation is sort of silly at this point. Right. Like, I don't know. If you happen to be in a certain circumstance and you're like, you're like, you know what? This seems like it's the right thing for me.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Then you do it. You do it. Joe doesn't do it for you. Yeah. Cut down in the prime of his life. Bob Barker. We lost him from the Price is Right. You could have broken that to us a little bit easier.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Hey, Bob Barker's up on the roof. What? I don't know. Why is he on a roof? Why would he be? Why are we? You don't know that joke.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Barb Barker passed away. Ninety-nine years old. Yes. Complete shock. So sometime, you know, shortly after. He heard. Bob Barker, come on down. What is happening?
Starting point is 00:38:52 Did we just insert a segment from a different show? What is going on? Also, we lost Joe the Plummer this weekend. That was really sad. Really sad. Now, Bob lived a very full life. He was 99 years old. But Joe, I mean, what a terrible thing.
Starting point is 00:39:14 He was, what, only 49 years old. Yeah, 49. This audience, by the way, made a huge difference in the last days of his life. I got, in fact, do I have that email? I got a couple of emails after it happened. And they wanted me to honor you and tell you, I don't have it. But tell you that when he was on the show a month ago? Wasn't that long ago.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Yeah. He was on the program. We talked to him. and, you know, he said he was worried about his family stability and, you know, he's 49 years old. And so we asked you to give and you gave a lot. And his family reached out and wanted you to know how much of a difference that you made in his last few weeks of life. Yeah, am I understanding what he was able to move back closer to his extended family with, Yeah. And it just, he had a good few weeks.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Yeah. His story is such an American story, right? Like you think about other countries with kings and queens. There's not like a story where one guy has a conversation with the king as they're walking down the street and changes the dynamic, you know, and changes the conversation in the entire country. He was able to do that. and then once again at the end of his life like there's very few countries
Starting point is 00:40:49 where I think that would happen where a person who's very sick has so many people who don't know him reach out and change the last few days of his life I mean you know it's it's this really sad story but but has a lot of
Starting point is 00:41:02 there's something to take from it as well by the way those stories do happen in other countries they usually end in beheadings but okay a lot of people that they don't know reach out and behead them. And it usually comes after walking down the street with the king saying,
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