The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Nick Shirley & Goldie Ghamari | 1/6/25

Episode Date: January 6, 2026

A regime change is coming but not the one you may think. Independent journalist Nick Shirley, the man responsible for exposing the alleged fraud at various day care centers in Minnesota, joins to expose further how deep he believes the scam goes. Glenn and Nick also discuss Nick's potential role in Democratic Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz's decision to drop out of his re-election race. Goldie Ghamari joins to discuss how Iran may be affected by Trump’s strike on Venezuela. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Why the focus on Venezuela is more than just a regime change. It is a global regime change. And Trump, I believe, is following in FDR's footsteps in the best of ways. Also, Nick Shirley is on with us and we talk to somebody who is from Iran to tell us what is actually happening and somebody from Venezuela to do the same thing all on today's podcast. Hello, America. You know we've been fighting every single day. We push back against the lies, the censorship, the nonsense of the mainstream media that they're trying to feed you. We work tirelessly to bring you the unfiltered truth because you deserve it.

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I bet it has. I bet it has. You are now getting death threats. How much has your life changed? Yeah, it's changed drastically because you wouldn't think by exposing fraud, you would really get a lot of people that come after you. You'd think, like for instance, you'd think the mainstream media would be happy. You'd think other government officials would be happy.

But then you see them all just turn it around and make it act like you're some sort of villain, which then enrages a bunch of crazies to want to kill you. And why do you suppose that is? Why are they reacting the way they are? Well, obviously, people don't like when millions of dollars are going to be exposed, especially if they're receiving some of that money. And then two, now it's been painted as a race issue, when it's really not a race issue.

It's just about money being stolen. And so now you're being called anti-migrant, anti-Islam, all this sort of stuff when you just did a video about fraud. You had nothing to do with the race or the religion. It just happens to be that 89% of the Somalian population is committing the fraud in Minnesota. it. What did you do differently that made your story stand out where, you know, Chris Rufo and, as I said, Walter Kern, they've been talking about this for a long time. And it connected, but it connected in the mind. What did you do different? Were you a surprised that it connected the way it did?

And why do you think it did? Yeah. I think I did because you could, You'd always heard about the fraud. Like when Elon was doing those, you heard about the fraud, but you could never physically see it with your eyes. You heard about the contracts, but you never actually saw that the money was going there. You never saw the effects of or whose hands it was going into and just how blatant the fraud was.

Because this is happening all across the country. And then here in Minnesota, the fraud's so obvious that you literally just go knocking the door of the daycare. And one, no one answers. Two, if they do answer, there's no kids. And three, if they answer, they can't even give you a brochure to enroll. old child. You know, I'm amazed at how this has happened and people don't see that the government,

and quite honestly, I think the banks do, had to be involved. The banks at least knew about it. They just turned a blind eye. The government, especially in Minnesota, they were absolutely part of this. Were they not? Well, you just saw Tim Waltz step down from re-election. Yeah, hold on just a second. Let me just take a moment and just celebrate this. This is what he said yesterday. Let's celebrate. We've got conspiracy theorist right-wing YouTubers breaking into our daycares, demanding access to our children. We've got the president of the United States, demonizing our Somali neighbors and wrongfully confiscating funds that Minnesotans rely on. It's disgusting and it's dangerous.

Okay. So he said, I'm not going to run anymore. I think he was talking about you, Nick. I'm pretty sure. Pretty sure he was. Pretty sure he was. Conspiracy theory. First of all, you weren't breaking into the daycare center and asking to see our kids. You were asking, are there any children here?

Correct. Correct. And how did you find these places? Yeah, well, if you just drive around Minneapolis, they're literally nearly every single block there's a daycare. And this man, David, he had all the information. He had all the data. And we just started going to some of the daycares that were around him in the neighborhood.

And they say open 7 a.m. to 10 p.m. yet there's no children. The windows are all blocked out. And they're receiving millions of dollars. In that video right there, you're seeing a green building that has two daycares inside the same address, receiving upwards of $5 million. The Cash Patel came out and said the FBI is aware of recent social media reports. Again, I think they're talking about you in Minnesota. However, even before the public conversation escalated online,

the FBI had surge personnel and investigative resources to Minnesota to dismantle large-scale fraud schemes exploiting federal programs. They had, but they just announced, I think it was yesterday, they're going to send another 2,000 investigators and federal officials, which is fantastic. I've never seen anything like that. Have you been working? Are you in contact with the FBI at all?

No, I had not. I messaged, I put a thing out when I was on Patrick Beck David and the FBI called me. The thing was I was in the Uber with the, when they called me, I saw that they called me. And so I was like, well, I'm not going to answer with the Uber guy in the car. And so I just let it ring through. And then by the time I got out of the Uber, so many people had called me between then and the phone call and so many messages that I couldn't figure out what phone and what phone number it was. Oh, geez. I lost the contact of the FBI.

Yeah, that's probably not the best thing. They'll get a hold of you. If they need to talk to you, believe me, they'll get a hold of you. There is nothing freakier than when you look down at your phone and it's either the White House calling you or the FBI. You're kind of like, I'm not sure I want to take this phone call right now. Anyway, you said with Patrick Bet David, you found it surprising that they didn't have all this information already. Yeah, because, I mean, it was so obvious.

And just like, how come it was my video that surged even 2,000 more? If millions, quite literally billions of dollars is being given to these daycare centers, how come the government doesn't know that the money is being spent here? And so I thought what was great about this is the HHS then froze all daycare payments or all child care payments until these businesses prove they're legit. And so far, no business has been able to send an information saying they're a legitimate. legit business. It's in, I think I saw you in Ohio,

exposing this more in Ohio, or is that not you? No, not yet. Not yet. But they're, I did go back to Minnesota for part two. Okay. But this is all over the country, and they just announced today, the UN ambassador of Somalia is involved in all of the, he knows about this and is involved in some of this.

They're all in on it. Like, yeah, everyone knows. And you talk to the Somalis and they're like, are we the only people who commit fraud? They'll literally say, are we the only people that who commit fraud? No, and I'd like to find, do you have tips on others? You should ask them. Do you have tips on others? Because we'll go after them too, yeah.

Yeah. And like I said, it just so happens that the fraud being committed in Minnesota, 89% of the population committing the fraud is Somalian. So it's really not a race issue. It's just a fact that people are stealing. millions and billions of dollars from Americans. With Tim Walsh leaving, I think probably a lot of pressure on that one. He knew he was in trouble, hoping that if he just goes away,

because what happens to these things, they always turn political. And so they'll get the governor out or they'll get the senator out. And then it just doesn't go anywhere. Who besides the governor should our government be looking into? I think just everyone involved over at the capital in Minnesota and the DHS who is cutting the checks and just anybody who had ties to cutting any of the checks or just like knowing what was happening. Elon Omar, she's outside of the coffee shops and the daycares where these daycares were being found. She has photos of her outside of Quality Learing Center with the owner of the restaurant who also is in a video with the mayor of Minneapolis going to her next daycare. on it. And there's no way they could not have known because as you say the leering center didn't

have any children in it doing any layering. The Omar guy who was running for mayor he was also he had a brother-in-law or some family member who was in charge of one of the daycares that had also been receiving two million dollars and they actually had so many violations they shut down the daycare and the next day they reopened. And that guy was about to become mayor. And so all these people are in on the fraud. They all know what's happening. And I need to say, use the word allegedly, because I don't want to get sued. But allegedly, all these people know about the fraud.

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much for having me on. Good morning to you and to all your listeners. Very excited to be here. I'm excited to have you. I watched your video as things were happening in Iran over the weekend. And I'm watching Iran, I mean, not probably as much as you are with real hope and anticipation of possible good things to come. Can you tell us what? what's going on in Iran right now and if it's different than what we've seen in the past? What's the problem in Iran right now is that people are rising up to overthrow the shackles of Islamic oppression that has held them hostage for the last 47 years. And a lot of people in Western media or a lot of the apologists for the Islamic Republic, you know, the pro-Islimist,

They are claiming that, you know, this is just about the economy and people are just upset. Well, if this was about the economy, why are Iranians now? Like, this is the 10th day and things have escalated. They're continuing to escalate. It's the 10th day. Iranians are going out of the streets en masse. They are chanting death to the dictator, Maghdad dictator. They're chanting Javid Shah, which means long of the king.

And then they're saying this is the final battle. Pahlavi will return. Pahlavi, of course, is His Royal Highness. Yeah, they're saying, you know, chaharine Mighada, which means it's the final battle. Pahlavi will return. Why? Because there's only one person that Iwanians trust to transition the country

from a brutal totalitarian dictatorship into a functioning secular democratic country. And that's His Royal Highness, the crown prince of Iran who's in exile. So do you believe, I've heard people say, well, he's not really a player because he's only been speaking out, but he hasn't really been active in anything significant in Iran. Is that true? Does he have widespread support? Yeah. So what they're saying about him is 100% false. He has been active in Iran and working to free Iran his entire life, like, since Iran was taken over. So he has dedicated the last 47 years to freeing Iran.

And what we are seeing today, literally over 70 cities, over 70 cities have risen up. That was just from yesterday's data. I still have to catch up with today. But pretty much every single corner of the country is out there, and they're chanting, this is the final battle. Pahlavi will return. The reason that there are some people who are attacking him right now at the most, critical time is because they know that the only person who can free Iran is the crown prince

in exile. And so that's where he's being attacked. But Iranian is in occupied Iran. They don't care. They are literally out there right now. They are risking their lives. It is, it is, it's all out civil war, Glenn. The Islamic Republic, they have imported their proxy terrorist groups from Iraq, from like Yemen, Lebanon, Gaza, right? They've been, they've been. imported all of their terrorist proxy groups, and those people are heavily armed, and they're out there attacking Iranians right now. And yet for Iranians, it's basically now or never. They are putting their lives on the line.

And, you know, one thing that gave Iranians a lot of hope is President Trump's statement, where he said if the Islamic Republic continues to shoot at innocent Iranians, then President Trump is going to do something about it. you know, the United States is locked and loaded. That actually gave Iranians so much hope. I guarantee you right now, President Trump is more popular in Iran than he's in the United States. Well, he'd have a hard time walking down the street in Venezuela today as well, being mobbed with fans. Exactly.

This has happened twice before, but it happened with Biden and then it happened with Obama, and neither of them voiced their support. And I was saying at the time, that's the thing that Ronald Reagan did. You know, when the Berlin Wall came down, when you had the collapse of the Soviet Union, he was vocally supporting the people. And I thought that was, you know, the missing piece. But the other part that at least Obama did was send money to the regime. You know, you say this isn't about.

economics and and I think partially true, but economics may have played the role to get the people out, the businesses out into the street and saying something. You know, I did a calculation today on the Rial and it is, it's 1.47 million Rials to $1,000, which makes bread right now in Iran is between $100,000 and $500,000. That means if it's at the high side, that means America, you could walk in and buy a loaf of bread for $0.34. That's incredible. And inflation has gone through the roof for them. It's up to, I think, 52 or 56 percent just this last year. How much of a role did that play? And did Donald Trump cutting off money help with that economic pressure? Absolutely. So like I said, the economic crisis,

the collapse of the real, the, you know, increasing inflation, that has played a role in sparking the movement, right? So the economy has played a rule in sparking the demonstration, but people out there right now, they're not protesting because of the collapse of the real. But the collapse of the real is just one other symptom of, you know, living under... That broke the camel's back. Exactly. Exactly. Because, you know, it's about human rights.

It's about torture. It's about, you know, the fact that people have been brutally oppressed by, you know, Islamic dictatorship. It's the fact that people don't want Sharia a lot. They don't want, like, like, Iranians are sick and tired of their name and their country being associated with terrorism because we're not terrorists. And prior to 1979, Iran was one of the biggest allies of the United States. In fact, I think it was...

The Persian people are amazing. Amazing. Thank you. Yes. Amazing. Thank you so much for that. What? Tell me, you know, it's been a long time since that has happened.

And a lot, I mean, you've had generations now raised under this. When the Shah left and you had the, the, Ayatollah Khomey come in, most people don't know. That was the Islamists and the Marxist socialists that were supporting that. And as soon as the Ayatollah got in, I think 20,000 Marxist kind of were disappeared or thrown into jail or killed. And it was, it wasn't exactly a smooth transition. It still had a lot going on. If this happens and they fall and the next, Prince comes back, how bad would a purge be? I mean, would that be part of this, do you think?

That there'd be a lot of people that have to go to jail and how would this happen? So, His Royal Highness, the Crown Prince has said that he wants to establish something similar to the Nuremberg trial. So no violence, like no purge, nothing like that. he wants there to, you know, basically a court of law. And anyone who has, you know, anyone who is guilty of oppression or as part of the Islamic dictatorship will have to face that court of law. And then, you know, based on what the verdict is, you know, they either go to jail or not. But he has never advocated for violence.

He has never advocated for anything like that. And even now, even now in his messages to the Iranian people, when he's encouraging, because also, like, one of the reasons these demonstrations are growing is because the Crown Prince, he is urging Iranians to go out in the streets and demonstrate. But he's never called for violence. These demonstrations from the side of the Iranians have been peaceful. But when the Islamic dictatorship opens fire on Iranians, of course, they're going to, they're going to fire back, you know, they're going to defend themselves, even though Iranians are not armed. although we've now heard reports that in certain parts of the country, someone has started to arm Iranians.

And so in many places, they're fighting back. But there's not going to be any sort of violent purge. I mean, we're not Islamists. Prior to 1979, we were a modern Western secularizing society. And anything and everything that happens will go right. you know, it'll be based on the, you know, fundamental, you know, laws and courts of justice. How does, I mean, the IRGC is pretty intense, you know, Hezbollah is there. Others were really bad intent or there. How does that happen peacefully? Because I know that, you know,

they're already talking about an escape plan for the regime. So, you know, the Mullas and everybody can get out. But, you know, you will have the IRGC left. Are they just going to lay down their guns, do you think? So, I mean, I think the ones who are Iranian might very well do so, but I think the ones who are not Iran, you know, like the Hezbollah and like the Palestinians and Iraqis and like, I don't know, Afghanis, whoever else are there. Because they're not Iranian. They have nothing left to lose. They're actually some of the most vicious, vicious Islamic terrorists, you know. So I unfortunately don't see them laying down their guns. So what we really need is for the military to step up and for the military. military to defect and take the side of the people, I mean, or possibly for President Trump to do something or, you know, Israel to do something because no, no revolution has ever been successful without outside interference. And in fact, the only reason in 1979 Islamic

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All right. So I want to, I want you to understand, I'm not talking about regime change like Libya. Okay. We're avoiding that. What I am talking about is a different kind of regime change, a great reset, if you will. Because we all know, this is what we've been battling about. Okay. We all know that the system has been torched.

It has been destroyed. It has been dismantled. And what have I been telling you for 25 years? They're building framework to drop into. When this thing falls apart, they'll have the framework ready to go. They'll have the answer. We know what the answer is for the West. The answer has been the WEF and central banks saying it's the Great Reset, where we're going to have one global government.

And you're just, you're not really going to have. have a say, you know, you will elect your representatives and they have part of the say. Okay. It's a very fascistic kind of world. We've been against that. The other side is China, Russia, Iran, totalitarian state, communism. We're not for that either. And what we've been saying is we're for the Constitution.

We're for, you know, 76 trombones. We're for all of this, you know, red, white and blue. We can never describe it to anyone. We just know what we want it to be. And the idea, and I've been saying this for a long time, we have to stop saying it's like Reagan. Because nobody knows what Reagan did. Nobody knows that anymore.

The youth, if you're under 30, definitely don't know anything about Ronald Reagan. You don't know anything about communism. You know nothing about any of that. So it means nothing to the youth. somebody has to redefine what it is we're for. This is exactly what Donald Trump is doing, but he's not, he's not,

there's nobody, there's no storyteller to tell it, to say what is actually happening. And it's happening at such a rapid pace. Now, I could be wrong on this, but I don't think so. I'm not smart enough to come up with all of this stuff.

I just, there's got to be somebody. in the administration. Maybe it's Donald Trump. Maybe it's a team. Maybe it's one guy. Somebody is saying, no, you move this lever and this lever. You do this and you do this.

And that knocks that out, that out, that out. And we're just, it's like bowling. And they're bowling 300s every time they roll the ball. There is a regime change coming. But it is a third way. It's America as the leader. Again, put into place again, that, I believe we are in World War III.

You just don't know it yet. And that is World War III. We'll be fighting the Islamists, but we also are fighting the communist in China. We are fighting high tech all around the world. We're fighting for energy. Believe me, energy crisis like America has never understood is coming. It's around the corner if we don't control all of our own energy. Okay. So that's regime change.

Let me take you back to what Donald Trump said yesterday. Canada, Panama, and Greenland, maybe they should be protectorates. They should really be protectorates. We laugh at that. Now, I don't know how comfortable I am with all of this that I'm going to be telling you next. But I'm pretty sure this is true. I mean, at a scale of 1 to 10 on Glenn, what do you think? my only hesitation is, I haven't prayed on this enough.

This happened last night, started coming to me last night. So I haven't prayed on this enough. But I'm pretty sure, as coming from me, I'm at a nine on the 10 scale. You know, one to 10, 10 being, oh, I'm positive. I think I'm at a nine. But again, this is coming from me. Canada, again, think of one stone, a thousand birds. Canada is a pain in Donald Trump's ass.

Donald Trump is a pain in the Canadian ass. I love Canada. I don't want problems with Canada. I think most Americans are like, I love Canada. I don't want anything to do with Canada. And I certainly don't want them to be the first 51st state. We don't need that. They don't want it.

And we shouldn't want it. They're a great country. This started, this whole theory started when I read something from a Canadian press yesterday and it said it talked about how Canada needs it was from Canadians and an economic paper and it was how Canada needs to be very concerned about what just happened in Venezuela because it could collapse listen to me carefully could collapse the Canadian economy why much of the Canadian economy is geared on oil and gas They built a pipeline south to us.

Now, we're not using that pipeline, but we get a lot of oil, and they would like to sell us more. And I'd like to have more Canadian oil, quite honestly. I think that's great. Okay. But if they don't sell it to us, because Donald Trump, again, we're not taking the Venezuelan oil that I know of. We're using it to cripple China. We're saying, we control the oil. Listen carefully.

We control the oil in this. hemisphere, it is not going to our enemies. That's what he just said to Venezuela. You're not selling it to China. We now have a chip that Canada doesn't like. That is, yeah, we have access to all this oil from Venezuela. So we don't really need Canadian oil. You want to sell it to us?

You can sell it to us. Hey, we need you to do a couple of things for us. Otherwise, we're not going to buy your Canadian oil. That's really bad for Canada. That's a big chip. What would Canada's response be? Well, just sell it to somebody else. Okay.

They have an east-west pipeline, but I think it's small and it has problems because of progressives up there. But it would take them 10 years, 5 to 10 years to build a real pipeline to the West Coast into British Columbia, where you have access to the port and easy access to China. but remember the Moreau doctrine being taken seriously now. No, we control the hemisphere. You're not going to have any foreign, no foreign enemy is going to have a foothold in this hemisphere. The United States will not tolerate Canada selling oil to China. Where do they sell their oil? the obvious answer is to us in South America, keep it in this hemisphere.

But we're going to need you to take care of your border for us. We're going to need you to take care of some of the money that is flowing in and out of the country that is coming from communist China, that is a family. How do you, how do these, we're next hour, I think it's next hour, some point today, we're going to talk about the Chinese money that is funding. all of these protests in the streets. How's all that money getting here? It's, again, not coming in Samsonite luggage. It's going through a bank. If we don't take care of the banks, you can't take care of anything.

You're just eating around the corners. That's all you're doing is nibbling at the edges. The center is the banking system. Donald Trump is making sure the West has. as all of the assets it needs to fight and win a war with China. He is getting all of the oil, all of the energy. He is getting all the rare earth minerals. That's why I said yesterday.

He said we don't need Greenland. I was wrong on that. We do, apparently. And he's still going after Greenland. Why? Western Hemisphere and those rare earth minerals are needed to win the AI war against China. They cannot go any place else other than this hemisphere. So he has, because he has followed through on his promises,

hey, Iran, you're going to do this. Otherwise, I'm just going to take out your nuclear power plants. And he did. Hey, Venezuela, you're going to turn yourself in or we're coming to get you. And he did. because he did those things, the people who want to dismiss Donald Trump and are against the United States are now taking him seriously. Notice there's been, I think, 50 arrests in Iran. No, no, I'm sorry, there's been 19 deaths in Iran of protesters.

There were, I had it written down here. The last time, there were 500 deaths. and 20,000 people jailed. That's not happening this time. Why? Because Donald Trump said, hey, you're not going to touch your protesters. If you do, we're locked and loaded.

And they're taking him seriously. But he has so much of that capital now in his bag. And he's not afraid to use it because, as I said yesterday, he's playing to win. You may not like it. I may not like what some of the things he's doing or how he's. doing it. I'm not even sure. If any of this is true, I'm not sure how I feel about some of this. Part of a big part of me is like, finally, finally, we're playing to win. We're not playing to go, okay, well, we're going to go back and we're going to hobble it together and we're going to be our own little.

No, he's playing it to say, we are going to dominate because when America is really strong, The rest of the world can be free. He's playing it. So America has a completely a completely new century ahead like the 1900s. In the 20th century, that was the American century. He's saying this century,

the 21st century, can be a new American century. And I'm playing it to win it. Never seen anybody do it. and he's doing it by building the arsenal of democracy. What was that? FDR. We're going to build tanks. We're going to build guns. We're going to build ships.

We're going to build the things that we need for war. What is today's arsenal? Oil, power, tech, rare earth minerals. We're going to build the arsenal so this hemisphere does not have to worry and depend on Europe or China because they're, I really think he's written them off. They're lost. We're going to make sure this hemisphere stands.

That's what's really happening.