The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program | Guests: Nigel Farage, Christopher Rufo, & Oscar Izaguirre Jr. | 6/12/20

Episode Date: June 12, 2020

The news today only makes sense coming from a drunk man. Names are changing, the dictionary is changing, people are being fired, and companies are apologizing, all to appease the mob. New York shop owner Oscar Izaguirre Jr. joins with a perspective the media won’t give: What is it like to have your store looted? Brexit party leader Nigel Farage joins after losing his radio job for comparing tearing down statues to the Taliban. While the media and Seattle’s mayor insist the scene at the CHAZ is all peaceful and Antifa-free, City Journal contributing editor Christopher Rufo has seen otherwise. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So we have a little bit of drunk news that begins the show that you don't want to miss. Also Volkswagen says, therefore, humanity, they didn't mean to make this mistake in their commercial, which is ridiculous that they were even apologized. But you won't believe what they said. Now remember, it's Volkswagen, you know, the car designed by Hitler. But they're really, really super sorry, and they're on your side. Also, we have Nigel Farage.

He is the Brexit Party leader. He called me yesterday because he was fired from his radio gig for saying something in Great Britain that I said the same day. He's right about it. We'll talk to him about that. Also, what's happening up in Seattle? CNN and the mainstream media is saying, no, this is, I'm not kidding. These are poetry readings that are happening at the jazz. Really?

Poetry readings. Huh. And we have no evidence that Antifa is involved at all. Well, except for their own tweets, the pictures, et cetera, et cetera. We get into that. And so much more on today's podcast. You're listening to. The best of the Glenn Beck program.

Okay, I've found a way to bring you to the news to where it makes sense. And if this news doesn't make sense, you haven't had enough to drink. We start with Audrey Gilman. She's the co-founder and the CEO of The Wing, a growing community of women across the country and the globe. but apparently she has sent in her resignation after a group of employees staged a digital walkout due to the lack of inflammation of their policies promoting feminism and race solidarity.

The Wing's brand director Alex Covington claimed that Audrey Gelman's resignation is just not enough. The Wing just doesn't practice the intersectional feminism that it breaches. Apparently, the wing's leaders have disproportionately failed and continue to fail people of color in the wing. The walkout with the employees brought a private list of demands. They say they are frustrated and saddened by the incompetence and lack of accountability, demonstrated time and time again by the wing leadership.

I'm quoting, the public perception of the wing is at an all-time low. I've never even heard of the wing, so I don't know how you have more perception when I don't think anybody knows what the hell of the wing. But I'll apologize for that tomorrow. College now is said, it's the Berkeley College of Music. They have now apologized to all of the students on campus. They said, let us assure you this should not have happened, and going forward it will not happen in the end. And if this doesn't make sense to you,

you need to start drinking earlier. They came out and said the Boston police, of course, have jurisdiction over the roads and other public spaces around our campus, but not inside of our business. and we are deeply sorry for the impact that this has had on our community and for keeping the feelings of oppression going and silence and marginalization. And they will make a more concerted effort to consider the effects of their actions.

Apparently the students were very upset because the college allowed the police during riots to go pee-pee in one of their bathrooms. Oh, the oppression just continues. Gone with the wind is gone, good. Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn. It's out because of its oppressive nature. In unrelated news, the second biggest streaming movie on Netflix.

Currently, is gone. on with a wind. It's those racist white people. And by the way, Lady Antebellum changed their name just to Lady A. They like to apologize for the Anabellum thing,

which I don't think anybody knows what Anabellum even means anyway. But I'm glad they did it and maybe a couple more days of groveling and we'll all forget it. Now, the L.A. Times, The editor there says the word looting has a racist connotation. And they've talked to all their black reporters, and they said, yes, you're right, it does.

So they're not going to use the word looting anymore. And they're considering getting rid of the word riot as well. Okay. Meanwhile, over at Merriam Webster's Dictionary, a woman in St. Louis, Kennedy Misham, said I was talking to my friends about race, and I realized, and we don't even have a real clear definition of what racism is. And she went to the dictionary, and she didn't like it. So she called Miriam up and said Miriam, and Miriam said, hello?

And she said, Miriam, I don't like what's in your dictionary. And I why that changed. And Miriam said, okay. Do I have to apologize if we change it? And the lady in St. Louis said, no, just changing. So Miriam Webster is changing her dictionary, which is a wonderful news. Axios has just given its reporters a green light if you're reporting on one of the stories for Axios, and you feel like you just have to join in and maybe get yourself some of those nice sneakers.

go ahead and join the riots. In other news, the old Glenback that I apologize for like crazy. I've been thinking about it a lot, and there's so much to apologize. The old Glennback would have said, if you're a reporter and you're working for the blaze

and you're covering it, I don't care of his Black Lives matter or, you know, lab rats matter, or, you know, white people, you join the protest, you're fired. I apologize in advance for the actions I would have said before I found the truth. Cops has been canceled? Good. Get them out. Now we got to get rid of Paw Patrol.

Paw Patrol, there's a lot of people complaining about Paw Control because the head dog is a policeman and is anybody a Nickelodeon donating for bail money for people who are definitely not riding because it's a, may I say something and I mean this, I do not want to bring a child into a world where Pop Patrol is available to stream.

Now, some people might think that that was a comedic line, but actually I'm quoting a reporter from the New York Times. ABC News parent company, Disney's given $5 million to social justice groups, and so they don't have to apologize later. Later, they've decided that they're going to change Splash Mountain because there's some of this thing Zippity-Doodah that people don't like. And so they're taking away all of the Zippity-Dudaw stuff and maybe changing that whole ride into Princess and the Frog, which I think is wonderful. They could even keep the song Zippity-D-Zippity-Doodah, Zippity-a, Zippity-A. White people suck every day.

And finally, in the news that totally makes sense now, that I'm looking at it from through a darkly lit glass, a glass dark, I don't know, I'm looking through the alcohol, and it makes sense. Bill Zablas. Bill La Blah, Bill La Blah, Dill, Dill, But the mayor of New York City has decided to paint and rename streets in honor of the heroes of Black Lives Matter. He says they're going to do it in all five boroughs.

And I think he should. I think this is a really good idea. The only problem is, uh, I, I think I know less. the heroes of Black Lives Matter, then I do about that feminist place called The Wing. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. So we don't want to use the word riot or looting because we have found out from the L.A. Times today

that journalists should never use those words because they connotate racism. I thought they just connotated stealing stuff. and break them in. But, no, that's my white privilege. Now, we have a store owner from New York. He's from Oscar's Gold and Diamonds. His name is Oscar Ishergiri, Jr.

And Oscar is the son of another Oscar. And that other Oscar was the one who started the shop about 35 years ago. Oscar, welcome to the program. How are you? Hi, Glenn. Thank you for having me on the program. You're welcome. So, Oscar, I'm looking at the video of your shop being, I don't want to say looted,

vigorously emptied of its product by early holiday shoppers. And it's pretty nasty to look at. Can you tell me what happened? Yeah, so I guess these early holiday shoppers, they came in, you know, overnight. Basically, the Bronx was, I don't know if I can politically correctly say war zone either, but I guess the Bronx was very different that night and in a very bad way, or at least in a way that one only season movie. Oscar, Oscar, Oscar.

Stop using Oscar, stop using your white privilege. Please, you white people make me sick. Well, Glenn, I'm asking the minority. I'm Hispanic. Well, that's not until you're targeted. Then you became a white person. Okay, so. They didn't care?

So what happened to the process that night is they broke into my store and it was destroyed. It's completely trashed. I'm over here working with my dad and a couple other buddies, you know, some contractors I know just trying to get everything back to normal. So how much did they steal? Luckily, I was able to move the inventory to a secured location. And I don't know, there's about $50,000 of the damages because I have expensive equipment, you know. I have jeweler equipment, molds, the jeweler desks. I got showcases. bulletproof glass, plexiglasses, each sheet is worth like four or five grand.

It's a lot of damage, honestly. How did they break the bulletproof glass or where was the bulletproof glass? Because I know how expensive that is. Yeah. I saw people coming in with sledgehammers and other, you know, other tools that, you know, that with enough time, you can get, you could break it, you know? Yeah, right. So did, was this, do you think,

planned out or was this as spontaneous we're walking by and we're doing this to all the stores or do you think these people came in? This was so planned out. You know, the people that came were definitely not part of the movement or I don't think so because during the entire

night, because this happened from 8 a.m. to 5 in the morning. This wasn't like just one group did it and that's it. It was everybody was doing it. It was the worst thing I've ever seen in my life. And what's it called, though? It happened all night.

And they went to store to store. It was totally planned. It was totally planned. And these were opportunists taking advantage of a very serious situation, you know, in the nation right now. And, you know, it hurts the cause. And I didn't hear not one chance for George Floyd. This had nothing to do with George Floyd, in my opinion. And I was there.

There was no signs. There was no chanting. This was a complete separate group of people that just took advantage of the situation. That were doing their holiday shopping, Oscar. That remember, they were just doing their holiday shopping. So your dad, is he a, are you a first generation American? Is your dad an immigrant? Okay.

And you guys have been doing this for 35 years now. has your dad seen anything like this ever before? And what's your dad's reaction as... No, I asked him, you know, dad, did this happen in the Bronx every five years or something? 10 years? And he said, no, it's the worst he's ever seen it. And he's from, you know, 70s and 80s when, you know, there was a war going on every day.

Yeah. Yeah. The good old days weren't as golden, according to my dad. And he's never seen anything like it. You know, the police did not have control of the situation. They were told to be leaning. because they didn't want to actually hurt any protesters, but there weren't none.

I didn't see any protesting. All I saw was Holiday Shoppers being extremely aggressive at me. Oscar, I just love you, brother. First of all, I'm sorry that this happened to you, but thanks for having the guts to speak out and not sit down and just take it. I appreciate it. Is your insurance covering it? Because this is what they're saying now, that insurance,

You know, you guys have insurance, so what do you care? You know, it's, you know, my store is my livelihood. You know, my siblings were sent to college, you know, off the store. We were able to have a house and nice cars with the store. So the store is very much my home as well as my normal home. I spend more than half of my life here in this store since I was eight years old, buzzing the door open for customers. So this is very much my home as well.

And I think only maybe another store owner. or somebody who has a business can understand that. So just because insurance will cover it, you know, how would you like if someone attacked something that you felt was home? It's traumatic. It's not, oh, the insurance will cover it. Well, I guess. But, you know, witnessing that for eight hours at night, in all the chaos,

it's traumatic, man. And to see, basically what I view is my home be violated. I don't know. It's, uh, I don't think, uh, you know, I'll call insurance is a good band-aid, you know, thankfully they, they'll call for a good amount of what happened. But I mean, you know, I'm still being closed for like almost a month. Like, wait, you know, like, uh, and you were already close because of COVID. And I was already closed because of COVID, you know?

As you can tell, it's not going to be a very good quarter for me, but I got to, I got to keep working, you know, for the store that's giving me so much. I really appreciate you talking to us. Thank you so much, Oscar. Best of luck to you and your dad. You bet. You're listening to. Nigel Farage, the Brexit Party leader.

A guy who's accomplished an awful lot, and in many people's eyes, has done a heroic thing by getting England out of the Euro Union. But now he's. jobless because he was on a TV show and he spoke his mind in England. Nigel, welcome to the program. How are you? Thank you very much. I'm okay, but I have to say that there's a sort of mass hysteria seems to be gripping mainstream media in both of our countries. Well, ours has been taken over completely by the left. I mean the Uber left. It's not liberal. It's not, it's not

even Democrat. It is Democratic Socialist and slash crazy. They are denying things now that we're seeing with our own eyes. So tell me about your situation yesterday. You were on a morning, I think you call them wake-up shows, and you,

I don't know why you would agree to this, but you were with Pierce Morgan. And he played his usual word games to make himself look good and make you look bad? What happened? Well, I went on to. It's a program called Good Morning Britain. It's not the BBC. It's an independent commercial station. He does quite a big breakfast show there. He's done quite well with it. But I went on, and the reason I accepted to go on, Glenn, was because I was watching it the previous

days. And they were all saying that, you know, the protesters were absolutely justified in what they were doing, that Black Lives Matter was a really, really important movement. And we just had the toppling of the first statue in this country, a statue in Bristol in the West of England, and a mob, an angry mob, tore it down, stamped on it, and then threw it in the sea. And I thought it's about time somebody put up a counter-argument. So I finished up doing it live. It was myself, peers, Susanna who works with him, and two other guests. One, a Black Lives Matters activist, the other

a so-called academic. And it finished up in a four-way shouting match. Four of them against me. And my argument was this. Whilst we want to have equality of opportunity, we want to live in a society that is free and doesn't have

horrible prejudice, the truth is that the three words Black Lives Matters may be innocuous, But the Black Lives Matters organization is an avowedly Marxist, anarchistic organization that wants to defund the police. It even wants to abolish the police. It wants to overthrow capitalism. It wants reparations for slavery and centuries gone by. And it is a recipe for a really bitter division in society.

So I wanted us to recognize who the organizers of these protests were. And everything I quoted to peers and the other panelists, everything I quoted had come directly from the Black Lives Matters website. All right. These were my words. They were their words. And they were kind of shouting at me that I was a liar, that I was out of touch. And then we moved on to the toppling of this statute. Now, the guy whose statue was toppled was part of back in the 1600s the slave trade.

All right? And let's just remember, you know, every country in those days was involved in it. I'm not condoning it, but that's history. That's the world we lived in. And I said, I thought that if statues should be removed, they should be done by elected city councils, by elected city mayors with the consent of the people. But that if you allow the mob to do it, and if the mob hysterically tear down, screaming statues of people they disapprove of, that that effectively is like the Taliban in Syria destroying ancient historical monuments. And I've been critic to, but I think it's a perfect analogy for what went on.

And it's led to, I mean, really low-grade stuff, but 5,000 people. 13%, 1, 3% of people. We've now got our biggest mainstream media programs openly supporting 13% of them. And so I don't regret for one minute, making those arguments. So, Nigel, it's funny that you said this, because I know you called me yesterday to tell me this story, and I was looking into it, and I thought, oh, my gosh, that's exactly what I said yesterday, here in America.

I said, this reminds me of the Taliban in Afghanistan when they blew up the statues of Buddha. Those were world heritage sites, and they just didn't like them, and they wanted them gone, because they found them to be blasphemous. And the world yawned. And it was wrong then. I don't like statues of civil war, you know, heroes like William Bedford. I think that's his name in it.

Is it William Bedford, the guy who started the clan? He was a horrible, horrible, awful human being. Yeah, Bedford Forrest, thank you. Awful human being. I think his statues should be taken down if they are still up in the south. I think the schools, if any of them remain that were named after him, should be changed. But not in the middle of the night by an angry mob. And that's exactly what you were talking about.

And you lost your job for it. Yep, you and I think exactly the same way about this. If you want to revise your civic architecture in your city, you do it democratically and peacefully. And the problem is, if you try and rewrite history, you find that it has some very unfortunate consequences, because where do you end? I mean, if we're taking down statues of people involved with slavery, well, what about statues of politicians who opposed 100 years ago votes for women, for arguments, say? Where do you end with this? You can't look back and judge history for the standards that we have today. And in a hundred years' time, people will look back at us and think we were wrong with some of the things that we're, we believed, rewriting history. This is the kind of thing that Chairman Mow did. It's the kind of thing,

as you and I both agreed, the battalaband did. It's the kind of thing that Hitler did when he burnt books that he found to be unacceptable. And that is the direction the mob is taking us in. They are very heavily funded. You know, and we know the Soros, the Stiers, these sort of people. They're very heavily funded. You've got a media that is now complicit. with it. And in my country, you know, mainstream leading politicians who were too scared to say a word against it. And what we're lacking, I think, right across Western society in our churches, in politics, in media, even in the police, what we're lacking is the moral courage to stand up and say, this is wrong, and we won't put up with it. And I think, certainly in my country,

you know ordinary middle england people are now crying out for someone to say enough so um can you tell me why they are getting rid of or they're defacing the churchill why is a group like antifa if that is who's doing it over there why are these anti-fascists defacing the guy who ended fascism and churchill absolutely right i mean if it wasn't for churchill it would have been a Nazi Europe that probably would have lasted for about 50 years. So you're absolutely right. Nobody in the world did more to defeat fascism in a very brave fashion than Winston Churchill. But of course, he was a big British patriot. He was a huge supporter. And part of this, part of this protest, it began there was a catalyst with the horrible death of George Floyd. Some of the people

protesting, genuinely one injustices right behind this. But right behind this at Lism, and it is frankly, this is the most dangerous thing we've seen. Well, Nigel, it is good to talk to you.

I'd love to see your voice on the blaze, quite honestly. It's, you know, my company that isn't just, we're not going to fold. We are not going to fold. And we are putting together a list of of, I think, patriots who are risking it all, and we'll watch each other's back.

Even if we don't agree with each other on everything, we're not supposed to. That's not what an intellectual exchange is all about agreeing. So, Nigel, thank you so much. God bless you. Thank you. Thank you. This is the best of the Glenn Beck. I thought I had seen it all until I saw a report from now CNN saying that, Right-wing extremist publications like The Blaze or Breitbart or, you know, the Rush Limbaugh program, or any of us that are saying the truth. Laura Logan is under attack.

And good luck with Foxwatching your back. But she's under attack, as all of us are that say that Antifa is at all involved with the Seattle movement. That's absolutely not true, according to CNN and others in the mainstream media. Somebody who lives in Seattle, who's been covering this forever, has been following Seattle politics, is Christopher Rufo. He's a contributing editor for the City Journal. He's also a filmmaker and a writer and a policy research. He's directed four films for PBS.

So he's a respected guy. And Christopher, tell me what you know. about the lies of the right-wing media about that just god-loving peaceful group antifa in seattle yeah i mean antifa is has the biggest presence in the country and in pacific northwest cities predominantly portland uh tacoma seattle and it's just absolutely stunning that the media at n would uh not believe the huge amount of evidence uh that antifai is one of the driving forces behind the protests. And, you know, if anyone wants to check for themselves, it's not really hard. If you look at the kind of Keystone Antifa social media accounts, they're all talking about organizing in the Chaz,

getting armed people into the chas. They're celebrating the victory of the Chaz as an Antifa specific victory. And then you can see photos of kind of black clad, black block Antifa protesters who were out all week hammering away at the police, throwing explosive devices, throwing bricks, throwing rocks, throwing bottles. And they're celebrating this openly. And it's only because the CNN and other media are playing this kind of word game, trying to be cute about it, that they can say, well, Antifa is not an organization. It's an ideology.

But I'm convinced that it's really just a smokescreen that the cover. They're trying to have fun attacking their perceived police can see with their own eyes. I've never seen anything like this, Christopher. I've never seen things so clearly and wonder. I mean, it's almost like watching the news now is like watching The Onion. They're asking you to deny things that you know are true. It's almost like they're being sarcastic and saying, no, this isn't Antiphon. It's completely peaceful.

Well, you see black-clad members of Antifa throwing bottles and Molotov cocktails and burning cars. I mean, what is their thinking? What is their motivation, do you think? I think what it is is that there is a huge imbalance in the power dynamic between the right and left media. If someone in the right-wing media tweets the wrong person, likes the wrong page, does some kind of minor infraction against the predominant social justice narrative, they'll get hammered, they'll get advertisers canceled, they'll get, people will come after them, they'll show up at their home, you know, kind of to harass them.

But the left has shown time after time. And if you look at the kind of Chris Cuomo, CNN debacle, if you look at a number of people in very high positions that have said things that are flat out wrong, flat out false, extremely biased, they don't pay any price. And I think what you're seeing now is that they're brazenly disregarding the obvious truth and really smirking because they have the kind of dominant position and the cultural hierarchy. They're not paying a price.

So why wouldn't they? It's a good way for them to go after their enemies and do so with impunity. Do they have any idea that Antifa will kill them just as fast as they'll kill me or you or anybody else? You know, I think they're useful for Antifa now so that they're, they've seen. feel in a protected space, but I'll tell you something that unfolded at the Chaz just a few days ago. In Seattle, who actually the councilwoman who represents the area of Capitol Hill is a woman by the name of Shama Sawant. She's a member of the Socialist Alternative Party, which is a Marxist-Leninist

political party that advocates for socialist revolution and the overthrow of capitalism. This is someone who is on the very far left. So she went to the Chaz. She went within the Autonomous Zone. And she held a rally and she was saying, I'm with you. This is a victory for socialism. And I'm going to now propose a city ordinance to defund the police by 50%. And she was actually booed and castigated and chewed out by the protester because it didn't go far enough. And then the rhetoric from the protesters was that she was, she's a woman of Indian descent, that she was being essentially racist by minimizing black and brown women. and their voice and kind of appropriating it.

So if they can turn on an elected official who is a Marxist-Leninist that wants to cut police funding by 50%, you can be that they'll turn on almost anyone when the time is right. So what is happening in Seattle? The governor said, oh, I didn't know anything about this. I hadn't heard anything. I mean, are you kidding me?

It was like the next day that he finally comes out and recognizes, that that happened. And then he claims that it's peaceful. The Seattle mayor was on television yesterday saying, oh, it's nothing but poetry readings, and you know, it's going to be a summer of love.

What? Yeah, I mean, if you watch the video of the Seattle mayor basically saying, oh, this autonomous zone has always been a very autonomous neighborhood. It's a peaceful expression of protest. It's patriotic. I mean, her tone and her facial expressions, it

has the energy of a hostage video because the political reality right now is that the mayor who is seen as the kind of moderate force in Seattle has lost really all political power and momentum. So you have now sitting city council members calling for her resignation. You have protesters, sometimes armed protesters who have seized control of a large part of a neighborhood. And she's powerless. And my sources within the Seattle Police Department have said, you know, to have knowledge of these deliberations said that the mayor and the police chief really have no long-term plan. They're going day by day, and they're really just reacting to protesters because they feel like politically, in the media narrative, they have no room to act. The police chief, who's an African-American woman, I just saw a very compelling video saying, you know, I asked you to fight and hold that person.

precinct and then it seems like I sold you out, but it wasn't me. This decision was made elsewhere, and I didn't have a part of this decision. Do you believe that? I do. Yeah, I think that police chief is genuine. She, you know, officers that I've talked to admire the chief. They like the chief, but they recognize that she too is kind of, you know, only really the second, second person in command. The mayor all has the ultimate authority. And I think what you've seen in the the past few days is that officers are talking to me and even speaking publicly saying, you know, we fight for this city, we protect this city, we will take a bullet for this city, but now we have not only the protesters, but the public and now our boss, essentially,

the mayor turning against us. Morale has never been lower. And a lot of officers I've talked to are trying to get out going to smaller cities and the surrounding area because, frankly, it's a very, brutal and difficult time to be a police officer. And then you're going to the barricades, working 12-hour shifts every night, getting, you know, 45 officers out on injuries sustained in the riots, and then they're getting trashed by the political leaders. It's really unfair and very difficult for the police. So what is the game plan?

I mean, what is the exit strategy here for, the Marxists and the Marxists in city council. I mean, how do they see this unfolding and where does this go? Well, you know, the political path, there's really two paths. One path, I think, is the mayor is really hoping that the situation resolves itself and that she can kind of just let this thing fizzle out and then make incremental changes and move forward. But the more likely path, I think what's going to happen in the next week is that some of the socialists and Antifa-affiliated city council members. And you have to keep in mind,

and this is, again, contra CNN. But one of the sitting city council members is an Antifa affiliate. She actually dressed up her newborn baby in an Antifa onesie and tweeted about she's training a new revolutionary. So these are people who are deeply connected. with the Antifa movement. And they're going to make a run right now. I'm hearing they have potentially a majority to cut police funding by 50%. And that would mean going from about 1,400 officers in Seattle down to about 800. So this is a high-stakes game.

What officer would stay for that? What officer would say, oh, yeah, no, I'm going to be there when I'm now in a force that's half the size that it should be. If it shouldn't, in that city, it probably shouldn't even be larger than 14. And what officer would stay and do that? Yeah, I'll tell you, there's a specific answer. Officers that are nearing retirement, all of the officers that I've talked to that are a year, two years, three years away from getting their pension,

they're telling me, hey, we're going to stick it out because we have, we're highly vested, we want to get our pension. But all of the young officers are going to be gone. So the people that you really need that are young and energetic, optimistic, you know, idealistic even, the really good officers that are young and can handle those difficult situations, they're going to disappear. So you're going to have an older, more experienced, but frankly, less effective department. So it's going to be a disaster. But what you've seen is that these protesters and these city council members and legislators around the country, they don't care about what's effect. They care about instituting their ideology.

And for them, unfortunately, chaos is good because it gives them a pretext to seize more power. So I was saying yesterday that I look at this and I see Donald Trump saying, you know, going to come in and that's what would normally happen. I mean, it would have happened already in a reasonable time period. But I think he's just been set up and you'll have, you'll have National Guard troops there. and they'll be painted as the big, ugly American thug coming in, and that part of the city would burn down to the ground, and nobody would care, and the press would cover it as the big bad Donald Trump with his big bag military coming in,

not a restoration of order. Is there anyone in the city? Are there residents for all of this crap? You know, it's very difficult to tell. I think the residents are overwhelmingly, for the Black Lives Matter agenda, for progressive politics, even for the kind of establishment of an autonomous zone, I think so long as it's seen in the mainstream media as something that is a jubilant street fair. But as the kind of narrative gets out, as things devolve, as kind

of roving street gangs start implementing street justice, you're going to see what happened with Occupy Wall Street. As the Occupy protesters lost control, as there was reports of sexual assault, things kind of crumbled on the public opinion turned. But I think right now the energy in the city of Seattle is behind the protesters, which makes it physically impossible for them to act. I don't know how you do it, Chris Fred, don't know how you live there. God bless you. Thank you so much. We'll talk to you again. Thank you for following this. And keep your chin up and never apologize for the truth, as I know you won't. Christopher Rufo.

You follow him at Christopher Rufo.com.