The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Peter Schweizer & Carol Roth | 8/14/24

Episode Date: August 14, 2024

Chief pollster of the Trafalgar Group Robert C. Cahaly joins to prove that the corporate media is the reason for Kamala Harris' polling surge. Government Accountability Institute President Peter Schwe...izer joins to explain how the CCP appears to control Tim Walz. Former investment banker Carol Roth joins to discuss how inflation is still squeezing Americans' wallets and forcing impossible decisions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:03 And it's not pretty. We have Carol Roth on the program today on the podcast commenting about that. Also, Peter Swizer is on to discuss the disturbing connections between China and Tim Walls. At least this guy's not making millions of dollars from China, but he has a very cozy relationship. What will that mean for the United States? States. All that more on today's podcast. So Arlene, who lives in California, used to suffer from aches and pains throughout her entire body pretty much all the time. Eventually, it got so bad that she could barely get out of bed in the morning. And then one day, she heard the silver-haired,
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Starting point is 00:03:34 Now the New York Times is reporting this. So you see, everything that was is no longer. Now it's a new story. And everything that was about Kamala is no longer. Now she's great. I don't know what, let me just talk to people who are in the press. What is it like to be you? Honestly, lying is so hard.
Starting point is 00:04:08 I guess not. If you don't mind, you know, just being caught in lies, I guess it's not real hard. But I don't know how you keep it straight. What can we report today? Who issues that? Who tells you? Were you standing waiting for this story? And you just were waiting for permission to drop it?
Starting point is 00:04:27 Is that what? Or do they actually say, just want to let everybody know, thanks for flying the New York Times Airlines. We're going to be landing in Truthville. just a few minutes on Hunter Biden, but Hunter Biden only. We are in a lie city on everything else that is going on with the Biden administration and Kamala Harris.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Thanks for choosing New York Times, Ireland. How do they announce it? How do they tell their reporters what they can say today that they couldn't say yesterday? We have Peter Schweizer on with us. Peter is, I mean, he's just tremendous. He's a guy who's written some of the best, most informative books on the corruption of our government, both Republican and Democrat.
Starting point is 00:05:20 He's with the Government Accountability Institute. He's the president there. And I asked him to look at Tim Walz and tell us who this guy really is because he's a socialist, but is there any more to it. Peter, welcome to the program. Glenn, great to be with you. He was always my old friend. And, yeah, it's very interesting looking at Walls, particularly his relationship with China and kind of contrasting it with the Bidens.
Starting point is 00:05:51 The Bidens, of course, it was pretty much all transactional. They get paid, Joe Biden's policies on China changes. Tim Walts doesn't have that money, but I think he fits into the category of what used to be called a fellow traveler. He has a soft spot for the CCP. He has relationships there. And he's taken policies in Minnesota. They're really quite stunning when you look at it in the context of what's going on with China. For instance, what? So a couple of examples. You've talked about it widely, as have others, this problem with these police departments, these overseas police departments that China has. These are designed to intimidate Chinese nationals living in the
Starting point is 00:06:38 United States, American citizens, to not be critical of the CCP. And there have actually been reports of abductions. People have been abducted using these unofficial police stations to send people back to mainland China. Well, there's known to be seven of them in the United States. One of them is in the Twin Cities. Now, you know, Tim Walts has been very critical of the, um, the Minneapolis police department, police brutality, not treating people fairly. He has not uttered a word of, yeah, he has not uttered a word of criticism about this police station. Going even further, however, the organization, the so-called friendship organization that is running this police station in the Twin Cities is part of a coalition with something
Starting point is 00:07:25 called Minnesota Global, which is a pro-waltz-linked organization. So it's really quite interesting. The other thing I would look at, Glenn, is again, you've talked about and others have talked about the fact that Americans are investing dollars in Chinese companies, and these Chinese companies are helping the Chinese military industrial complex grown and expand. And as a result of that, over the last three to four years, states like Texas, Florida, have really curtailed their investments in China. And even states like Washington State and California have slowed their investment.
Starting point is 00:08:01 investments in China. One state, one state stands in contrast to that. That's the state of Minnesota that over the last four years, they've got a billion and a half dollars invested in China. 900 million of that has come in the last three or four years. And the chairman of the investment committee is the governor, Tim Walts. Wow. So, I mean, on the bright side, there's no evidence that he's taking money. On the downside, he just, degrees with China. It likes their system. Yeah. And, and great. Yeah, no, that's, that's exactly right, Glenn. And I mean, there are a couple of sort of, I think, telltale signs. And, of course, we're continuing to investigate this. He set up this student exchange program that the Chinese
Starting point is 00:08:49 government, you know, helped to fund it to bring students to China. That, of course, was done with a known entity connected to the Chinese foreign ministry that has been known since the 1990s to be linked to the CCP for the purposes of, you know, spreading the good news about the communist gospel. Well, if you look at some of the press accounts, the local Midwestern papers when this exchange was going on, one of the things that Tim Waltz was telling students, American students participating, was go to China, but, quote, downplay your Americanness. Now, this, you know, may seem like an innocuous comment, but, you know, this is a cultural exchange. I mean, we certainly would not tell Chinese students coming to the United States to play down their Chineseness.
Starting point is 00:09:39 And so, you know, there are things like that. There are statements he has criticized Tiananmen Square, but he's created a moral equivalence with wounded knee. You know, in the United States, 10,000 Chinese were massacred at Tiananmen Square. Of course, wounded knee was terrible. Native Americans were killed. but it was nowhere on the scale. And, of course, it happened, you know, what 150 years ago. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. You know, there's a difference between Tiananmen Square,
Starting point is 00:10:10 where the world has been civilized and wounded knee. Wounded knee is one of the worst scars, in my opinion, that we have. It is an embarrassment to the United States. So I am big on wounded knee and the truth on wounded knee. But I got to tell you, Tienaman Square, that happened what, 1989? Yeah. We saw it live on television.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Yeah. And what you said, I think is so true. And sort of after wounded knee happened and word got out, the consensus was this is terrible. This is a scar on American. It's recognized as such. Contrast that in China with the treatment of Tiananmen Square. And the president of China, President, G, his wife is a very famous singer in China. They've been married for decades.
Starting point is 00:11:02 She actually serenaded the troops at Tiananmen Square after the massacre. That tells you how our political system and their political system sees it differently. Tim Walz will not acknowledge that. He will always make excuses for China's conduct. Okay. So we haven't had, I mean, Dick Cheney was very powerful. and his influence was felt in the Bush administration. How much influence do you think Tim Walls will have on Kamala?
Starting point is 00:11:40 Because, or is it just their fellow travelers again? Yeah, I think that Walls will have a lot of influence, and I think particularly in the area of foreign policy. I mean, he doesn't have experience, but she doesn't either. And the examples where she has traveled and met with diplomats overseas, whether it's Central America or Europe, let's just say, has been underwhelming. So I think Walls was brought in. He was seen by the advisors around her as a sort of, quote, unquote, steady hand.
Starting point is 00:12:16 And the problem is, I think he kind of, Glenn, he views himself as kind of a China expert because he's traveled there 30 times and he's done these student exchanges. when he was inaugurated as the governor of Minnesota, very strange. He invited Chinese diplomats to which they did to attend his inauguration as the governor of Minnesota. He's given speeches to these so-called cultural organizations. He gave one in 2019 that are actually front groups for the CCP, well known. So he knows just enough to be dangerous. And I think that he would be at the center of U.S. policy towards China.
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Starting point is 00:14:08 Patriotmobile.com slash Beck 972 Patriot. Now back to the podcast. You're streaming the best of the Glenn Beck podcast. To hear more of this interview, find the full episode, wherever you get podcasts. I want to play something. that I saw on the news the other day. If this doesn't wake every politician up in America, I don't know what will.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Listen. How hard has inflation hit you? It hit me hard. It's hitting me hard. What do you blame for it? I blame the federal government at this point. If a working class mom who works as a paralegal cannot buy a $2 bill, pepper because it's now five. Imagine the mother living on a food stance. Imagine the mother
Starting point is 00:15:04 who's making minimum ways trying to feed children. They're killing us without killing us. If you understand that, they're killing us without telling us they're killing us. They're hurting people in ways that they can't help themselves. It's either feed my child or how about feed my children and I don't, but I have to go work. This is, this is what's happening in America. Every time I go through a drive-through, I pay ridiculous prices and I think to myself about that mother, about that family that cannot afford it. How are you surviving?
Starting point is 00:15:55 Where is the voice for you, the forgotten person? I will tell you, I listened to the Donald. Trump, Elon Musk thing. And Donald Trump was talking about the price of bacon. And I thought, tell me the rich people or tell me the politician that even thinks about the price of bacon. He was talking about how it's gone up five times. It's five times as expensive as it was.
Starting point is 00:16:27 And he was talking about the mom who was just trying to feed her kids. Harris will say a lot of things, but you have to understand she is responsible, literally, the deciding vote on several major catastrophes. Carol Roth is joining us now. She is the author of You'll Own Nothing, a former investment banker, Carol. Glenn, listening to that clip, hurt my heart. And this is the infuriating part. How is it? that, you know, everyday American, somebody who's a paralegal, understands economics better than the people who are making the economic decisions for this country. Well, it doesn't, isn't one of Harris's advisor? Didn't he go to school for political science and law, not economics? Yeah, so unfortunately, we are seeing the same things over and over with the Harris Walls administration. And it shouldn't be a surprise because we know Joe Biden has not been running the country for the last three and a half years.
Starting point is 00:17:41 There are some powers that be that decided they were going to swap out the puppet out front, Joe Biden, for one that's in a better, prettier package, Kamala Harris. And it's their economic policies. But she cannot get away from this because, as you said, she truly owns these. She has broken more ties in the Senate than any other VP in history. I mean, the last time it was even this close was the mid-1800s, and that vice president served under multiple presidents. So she owns the American Rescue Plan that stoked historic inflation. She owns the Inflation Reduction Act, which, you know, created these incredible deficits
Starting point is 00:18:23 that we're seeing in a time of quote-unquote growth and prosperity. So the idea, she had the ability to pull the back. Now, as for her advisors, as you mentioned, were. seeing the same names popped up that we saw under Biden, that we saw under President Obama. Brian Dees, who was Biden's director of the National Economic Council, is back as her advisor. By the way, him and another one of her advisors, Mike Pyle, a Biden advisor, guess where they worked for some period of time? Black Rock.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Black Rock. Black Rock. And, in fact, Brian Deas was the head of sustainable investing. And if you go back through his bio, as you mentioned, you know, this is somebody who came up in political science and law, you know, does not have this economic background, worked for things like the Center for American Progress. And so this is why you're seeing politically oriented economic policies, rather than ones that are, you know, capitalistic, so to speak. So, you know, her father was an economics professor, a Marxist economics professor that wrote a paper in 19. 72, saying that the central planning of the Soviet Union and their five-year plan is what all countries should do. It's just going to be the best. And it was an absolute disaster. So she's
Starting point is 00:19:46 grown up in a Marxist professor household. Her mom was also a professor at Berkeley. We know that, I mean, one man's socialism is another man's neighborliness, according to Tim Walls. These guys are socialists at heart and dictatorial, I think, at heart in many ways. Is this our Chavez moment? Is this the moment of choosing whether we go for socialism and repeat the trail of Venezuela or not? So what really scares me about Kamala Harris, who really doesn't have any stances of her own. We know that she flip-flops. We know that she takes other people's stances, even when they stand apart from something that she's done or said in recent times. So it's very scary under any circumstance.
Starting point is 00:20:41 But today it's even more scary. And the reason is our fiscal foundation is at a very critical standpoint. We have debt to GDP at about 120%. We should, to be sustainable, cut that in half. So we need to be at 60 or 65 percent, give us a little bit of room because at 70 to 80 percent, it really typically becomes unwieldy. And this is according to everybody, the IMF, the Treasury, you know, so on and so forth. So we are at a level that if we didn't have the world's reserve currency, we didn't have the world's trading currency, we would already be in a sovereign debt crisis and having those moments that we've seen. Right, we'd be Greece, we'd be Greece, we'd be Venezuela, we'd be Argentina, you know, go through the.
Starting point is 00:21:28 the list. And so the idea that we are going to get people who are anti-energy that are pro-big spending, who don't believe in debts, that believe in something called MMT, which I call magic money tree, but is modern monetary theory, which is basically the Fed monetizing the debt, which we know causes inflation. And we've seen what's happened with that over the last three and a half years when they've done that. I'm afraid that, you know, In any scenario, this would be bad, but because we really are at that edge that we need to, you know, we dig back. We need to have private sector growth. We need to reduce government spending.
Starting point is 00:22:09 This is not the face of free market capitalism that is going to give you those policies. And so the timing of this makes it more dangerous. And you mentioned that X space that I listened to as well with Elon and Donald Trump. And Elon said something that was very important. about the fact that this is really a time where we have this path in the road, where we can choose prosperity in trying to save the country, or we can go down a very dark path. And I hope that that resonated with as many people as it should,
Starting point is 00:22:44 because it is more important than ever. And I don't think anybody's taking this seriously. This is all about vibes and who you are from a personal identity standpoint. the same people who are upset that they cannot afford things and who blame the government and who had Kamala Harris making this deciding vote on this aren't going to hold her accountable. And that's what I'm afraid of. Yeah, it is really important to repeat the fact that she was the deciding, the deciding vote on the American Rescue Plan that stoked inflation.
Starting point is 00:23:20 And then the Inflation Reduction Act, which then just pushed it over the time. top. That was her final choice. It could have not passed and not happened. It was a tie. The vice president has to cast the vote. So she is directly responsible for both of those disasters. She also is talked about seriously getting rid of all capitalism in insurance and medicine and giving us a government medical health care system, that takes control of about what? We would be over 50% of the business and spending in America would then be from the United States government.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Would it not? I think we're at like 30% of they control the economy, 30% of it? Yeah, I mean, easily this is going to push up the percentage of the GDP that is in the government's hands because not only would it mean more government spending, but also what it requires are things that are going to crowd out investments from the private side. And this is another thing that is really lost on everyone is that to the extent we get somebody in there who is not pro-business, who is not pro-growth and pro-freedom. If we have a decline in the stock market, if we have a decline in the economy,
Starting point is 00:24:51 That means we have even less revenue, which means that at a constant spend, we're running a bigger deficit. And then adding on whatever other wish lists they have, that's just going to explode the deficits. The deficits to GDP right now are around 7 percent that is double the historic average. That is insane for a time when they are showing growth, which means they are just window dressing the growth. They are using government spending to create this appearance of growth. If we start getting deficits to GDP at 9 and 10%, I mean, that's going to blow up everything. And they don't have the team in place or the care, frankly, to be able to prevent that. This is a very serious and dangerous time.
Starting point is 00:25:37 It is that fork in the road. And we need people who are serious, who understand that, who are going to unleash growth in the private sector and are going to rein in government spending or, you know, you're going to work hard and your dollar is going to be worth less and less. You will, as my book says, own nothing. And frankly, they have a vice president candidate who does own nothing. This is a man who is almost 60 years old who doesn't own a house, who doesn't own stocks, doesn't own any assets.
Starting point is 00:26:12 So he's going to come out and say, look, the government took care of me and I'm doing great. I'm the vice president. Is that who you want to be, you know, one breath away from being the commander in chief, from being the president to from being the leader of the free world, people who think that it's okay to not have anything? They are going to project that upon you even harder, even stronger than we've seen in the last three and a half years. Well, that's happy news. This is the best of the Glenn Beck podcast. It's a compilation of clips from various episodes. If you want to dig deeper into this interview, check out the full podcast episode.
Starting point is 00:26:52 We are fortunate to have Robert Cahley on with us. He is with the Trafalgar Group. He's the chief pollster, also co-host of Polling Plus. Trafalgar has been the most accurate polls that have been out in the last few elections. And I have not heard any polling yet from Trafalgar and anxious to talk to Robert. Hello, Robert. How are you? just fun.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Awesome to be here today. Yeah, thank you for coming on. Can you tell me the state of the race, according to your polls at this point, how much of a honeymoon is Kamala having? You know, it's a pretty nice honeymoon. I mean, you know, it's not Tiananmen Square like a running mate. It's pretty good honeymoon.
Starting point is 00:27:45 But what I would say is, what, happening now is that this is a tightening that would happen with any other candidate besides Biden, and so it will, you know, kind of be expected. But what we're seeing now is, the biggest thing has changed is the enthusiasm gap is evaporated. There was a significant enthusiasm gap. Republicans, over 80% enthusiasm. The Democrats were all under 60. And we're seeing, heriting in most of these states right now. But the thing is, that's what happens when the Democrats put up a liberal. Generally, the Democrats make a compromise and put up somebody who does not run that far
Starting point is 00:28:35 to the left, an attempt to win a more moderate. But nothing like a liberal would be the mystic fight for the one. You're breaking up. You're breaking up so badly, Robert. Oh, wow. Oh, that's okay. So you were saying normally if they run to the center, they have a hard time. But the farther left they run, the more enthusiastic and the higher the poll numbers?
Starting point is 00:29:05 Well, not poll numbers, but enthusiasm. Okay. So running to the left is not actually that good electorally. But the enthusiasm gap is evaporated. And so what is the What is the What is the Go ahead
Starting point is 00:29:21 No I'm sorry What is the What is the The effect of the media How much Of the propaganda That the media is doing right now How much do you attribute
Starting point is 00:29:34 The rise And enthusiasm And everything else To the media It has everything to do with it The media is giving her Nothing but positive coverage.
Starting point is 00:29:47 I noticed this after the debate when I was watching. I always liked for entertainment to watch a whatever, something like what Biden did.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I watched MSNBC and CNN. And so I take both of them. And when she came on about an hour and a half later, what we saw was things like John King going, wow,
Starting point is 00:30:11 where have you been keeping her for the last three years? She's so good it this message and she says it so smoothly. And same thing on MSNBC, and I'm like, I knew what they were going to do then. I'm like, this is a setup. They're going to elevate her and they're going to give her a clean slate. And that's why I've been kind of warning Republicans don't get overconfident.
Starting point is 00:30:33 This lady could be worse and will be worse than Biden. Oh, yeah. So let me ask you this. Yes. We're talking to Robert Caheley. he's from the Terfalgar group. He's the chief pollster. So I just posited the idea that the press is getting so overt about their lies and so in the bag that I think that there is a chance this backfires like the dragging Trump into court backfired.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Do you see that as a possibility? Well, the thing is not as much because right now this election is now coming down to the group
Starting point is 00:31:23 in the middle when there was a huge despair in enthusiasm then it was a base election now that we have parity enthusiasm
Starting point is 00:31:34 it becomes an election of the people in the middle and the people in the middle are low information they're never going to say oh is she and done an interview. They don't think like that.
Starting point is 00:31:47 They're looking at all the positive publicity she's getting. And so this is why Matt Towery and my co-host and I were on Hannity the other night and we've been saying on our podcast, the way to combat this is you have to show the American public what she said before in her own words. That is the most powerful weapon there is. But none of this other stuff matters. I mean, it's like complaining that the rats aren't playing the game fair. That doesn't make the highlight real.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Nobody's watching sports fair to see the complaints. And so we need to get past all that and think about what does a low information occasionally paying attention to media both of the things. The kind of people who don't go to Trump rallies, they don't go to Harris rallies. They don't watch conservative or liberal cable news. you've got to cut through to them and the only thing that's to work with them is the hypocrisy of our own voice
Starting point is 00:32:49 and that's the way to win the selection I will tell you I agree with that but at the same time they have social media is where the low information voters are hanging out and they get their news on social media
Starting point is 00:33:04 Google and everybody would be very powerful social media what did you say but these videos can be very powerful on social media glance, but the key is... If they can get out. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:18 And we cannot rely on the corrupt establishment Republican consulting class who looks at this election as a chance to buy a new yacht. This is... The Trump campaign alone can't do this. But there are lots of billionaires who poured money into tax that haven't spent a nickel to win this election yet. that some of them are saying they go to it last eight weeks, some of them will never spend any money. But everybody out there, everybody who can hear me, it's your job. You find these videos, you send them around to your friends, you circulate it. You know, you can be that army that puts this information out.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Yes. And we can, in my job, we can make those clips available and show you then and now. but you can't rely on our voice. They have suppressed our voice so much in all of, you know, all of conservative media. You were just not being shared. You're just not seeing it. So it requires the average individual to not only post,
Starting point is 00:34:29 but send it on, you know, email to your friends. Share it when you're in the office with those who just, they don't know. Ask it to them. do all that stuff because you know the conservative army can be who's out there educating
Starting point is 00:34:49 those voters because this is where they're getting their message they're not listening to Trump and Elon Musk for two and a half hours they're not watching any of this stuff but they're literally people who don't watch the game and just watch the highlight real and we've got to understand
Starting point is 00:35:05 that's where this is now but this can be dominated by the grassroots because the conservative grassroots can get this done and just keep the stuff out there because they can block a Glenn Beck. They can't block the, you know, 100,000 people that Glenn Beck motivates to send 10 videos to their friends. That's what they can't block. Robert, is there anything in the polling that everybody's missing that you think is important? One of the biggest things we see is that Trump is doing better than Harris. Trump is doing better among Democrats than Harris is doing among Republicans.
Starting point is 00:35:54 And Trump has always done better with Democrats. Because self-identified Democrats, especially in the blue collar and the Rust Belt, they identify with Trump and, you know, him speaking. to where they came from. And the reason Biden was more effective against Trump than Hillary was, and the reason I think Biden in those states will be more effective than she was, if he had a similar blue-collar story, she doesn't happen. And so whereas she made Georgia more competitive,
Starting point is 00:36:32 I think that she opens the door for Trump to do better in Pennsylvania. she opens the door for Trump to do better in Wisconsin. And so I think that's the opportunity that exists is that neither her or her a running mate can really talk to these blue collar workers who have, you know, conservative pro-family values and understand the economy got wrecked because of Biden and the Green New Deal and all that stuff. Have you seen any polling on the two Vice President? presidential candidates yet. Have you done anything?
Starting point is 00:37:11 We have, you know, when there was some conference about J.D. Vance, we measured that and there was, it was, the idea of any kind of change was not positive. People thought J.D. Vance was just fine. And we have measured, and some of the swing states, both Matt Tower and I have measured, some of the things that Wallace has said, especially giving the illegal immigrant, like tuition and driver's licenses, that is extremely unpopular. And we had even had a chance to measure the stuff for this month with the Muslim Amman. I mean, this could be the Reverend Wright of this camp back.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Talk to Robert Kahili from Trafalgar. Robert, you guys were one of the first that kind of found the shy Trump voter in these polls? at least that's how I remember it. You guys were able to find a bunch of people who didn't really want to admit necessarily that they were voting for Trump for whatever reason, but then wound up voting for him. My impression of that over the years, just from vibes, is that there's less of those people now. People are more proud to vote for Trump. They want to talk about Donald Trump and their vote.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Does the shy Trump voters still exist? It exists a little bit that you're right. Many of the shy Trump voters are just going mainstream about it. You know, they're quite a call out of the closet on this one and whereas they weren't before. But what we are finding is the kind of voters that are still could be tried to shot Trump voters are still some African Americans and some suburban women who it's just not, you know, talking the fact that for Trump isn't isn't appropriate conversation for the dinner party. Right. Right. Robert, thank you so much. I really appreciate it and
Starting point is 00:39:07 keep up the good work. This is Robert Cahley. I'll say the same thing. Keep up in good work, sir. Thank you very much, Robert. The Trafalgar Group, Chief Polster.

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