The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Peter Schweizer & Claire Abernathy | 8/26/25

Episode Date: August 26, 2025

Glenn reads through the requirements of the JFK Presidential Fitness Test, from the beginner to the expert. Can any high school student today accomplish even one of the requirements? Host of “The Dr...ill Down” Peter Schweizer joins to discuss why Trump’s decision to allow 600,000 Chinese students to come to America is dangerous. Detransitioner Claire Abernathy joins to discuss what she experienced when she was 14 years old and thought she was the opposite gender — and the permanent damage she now has because of what the doctors recommended. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:30 Man, today's podcast is full of stuff. Department of War, cashless bail, Department of
Starting point is 00:00:37 Defense versus Department of War. Stu and I talk about really these presidential standards
Starting point is 00:00:47 on being healthy, I don't think so. We went back into the 1960s looked what
Starting point is 00:00:53 John F. Kennedy standards were. Oh my gosh. I mean, his standards, but his standards for PE, otherwise his standards are very low. On PE in high school, they were very, very high and, like, unbelievably so. We also, I told you a story on the podcast today that I think is really important. It's a story that comes out of the Carolinas about a young girl who moves to the United States for hope, for safety.
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Starting point is 00:03:43 Rate, review, share. Together, we'll make a difference. And thanks for standing with us. Now let's get to work. You're listening to. The idea who you're dealing with here. I got my DNA test back like 10 years ago. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:11 And we all took it because we were looking for, you know, we were looking for things. And so we all took it. My DNA test came back. And everybody in the family, their test made total sense. We're like, oh, yeah, that makes sense. Then we read mine. We have to find, I have to find it. I see if Tony even has it still.
Starting point is 00:04:27 We should have it framed. It's the, it's, I swear to you, they, they mixed me up with somebody else. Somebody else is like, wait a minute, man, I'm this pathetic. Mine came back and said, you have the musco, muscular structure of a, of a something like an elite athlete. You have the abilities and agility and everything else of an elite athlete. And I'm like, there's not a chance. I don't have any of that.
Starting point is 00:05:00 I don't even know if I have muscles. I have to check once in a while ago, do I have muscles? Do you have muscles? I don't know. How do you do that again? press against my hand on the leg. I don't know. You know, I don't know how to do that exactly.
Starting point is 00:05:17 So you sure it said, I just want you to know. Elite athlete and not elephant? I mean, if they misspelled it, it could have been a smear or smudge. I was having eye problems at the time. No. I mean,
Starting point is 00:05:31 we read it and I was like, Tanya, I believe that for Tanya. Maybe they switched me and Tanya. Because Tanya is really strong. She'll kick your butt. She works out every day. day, all of that. Me, never, never. And it kind of makes me wonder when I get to the other side and the Lord went, okay, so what did you do with your life again? Because I gave you this incredible body
Starting point is 00:05:54 and you wasted it the whole time. And I'm like, you should have been more clear. Okay? You should have been more clear. I, you know, maybe I could have played basketball, but I tried once and it was embarrassing. It was like sixth grade and I'll never live. I don't even want to think about my time on a basketball court. So don't start with me. You should have made it a little clearer
Starting point is 00:06:19 when I first started to do stuff. And I think that's fair. I think that's a fair argument. In my defense, in my defense, your honor, God, you should have made it a little more clear. Yeah. I mean, if they really, if they really wanted us to do this, then
Starting point is 00:06:34 the 11th commandment is 50 pushups and or 50 pull-ups and 100 push-ups, right? Like, put it in a commandment if you really want us to do it. You know, you have to be more specific. We're Americans. Okay. So let me give you the top of the list for the JFK presidential fitness test. Okay?
Starting point is 00:06:57 This is what you had to do in high school, in high school. 34 pull-ups, bar dips, 52. What's I? Because I believe I did that a long time. No, it's not, it's not a bar hop. Oh, it's, it's. Oh, bar dips. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Okay. All right. Bar dips, 52. Handstand pushups. 50. What are hands? Is that, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Hands tap. I can't even stand on my hand. Is that like I'm, I'm doing a handstand and a push up? Because that's not happening. Yeah. Like, you're, you're, you're balancing yourself on your hands. Your feet are above. your hands on the wall, like a wall, and you're doing...
Starting point is 00:07:40 Oh, so you're balancing yourself. That makes it a little easier. Still impossible, but a little easier. Impossible. You could do precisely zero of those. Right. Okay, so you had to do 50 handstand pushups or one arm, 30, no, sorry, 26, one-arm burpees in 30 seconds.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Is that a one-armed push-up? No. So you're, well, you're bracing. yourself like you're about to begin a push-up in a burpee with only one arm, which that's not that difficult. But then you're doing, I think that, then you're like, you move your feet towards your hands and then you jump up in the air, basically. And then you do it repeat it. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. That's, that's ridiculous. That's, no. There's a law of gravity, okay? You're not supposed to violate it. Yeah, that's not. If it was a recommendation of gravity,
Starting point is 00:08:29 maybe jumping would be appropriate, but it's not. So follow the law. In 48 seconds, you had to do a 300-yard shuttle. Now, I've been to the airport. I think I've done a 3,300-yard shuttle, but depends on who's driving. Right. You know? Rope climb. Try this. Rope climb. This is what I remember. 20 feet, hands-only, sit-start.
Starting point is 00:08:54 That's what I remember from the president's physical fitness test, and I remember looking at that rope and being like, no chance I can get up that thing. Oh, I just remember looking at that rope thinking, humiliation. Yeah. Humiliation is coming way. I'll never kiss a girl because that ain't happening. I'm going to get
Starting point is 00:09:09 maybe 10 feet up. Maybe. Maybe. And you were right for 24 years from that time. Approximately. Agility run, 17 seconds. Extension press ups. You had to do what? I'm just so tired from reading this.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Extension press ups. What's an extension press up? Eight inch. Let's see. You got to do a hundred of those. An exercise for low back pain involving lying on your stomach and pressing your upper body up with your arms while keeping your hips relaxed and down on the mat. How I could do that. Eight inches? I can do the last part of it, relaxed and down on the mat.
Starting point is 00:09:51 It's what my doctor says I should be doing. What? I can do relaxed and down on the mat. That part of it, I can pull off. I am the only guy. I took yoga for a while, like three weeks. My wife was like, yoga, you could do yoga. Let's just do yoga together.
Starting point is 00:10:05 I did. And the yoga instructor said to me, because we were doing like, you know, a plank. Yeah. And she came. And all I remember is her waking me up and saying, I think you're the only person I've ever, ever taught that fell asleep in yoga. I'm like, it's just so relaxing. Just let me sleep. Just let me sleep.
Starting point is 00:10:27 That's interesting. No, she wasn't that you did yoga. Is there any footage of that? Is there any video of, but we could post? No, there's not. I mean, that would be good for... You have to do... You had to do pegboard, five trips of pegboard.
Starting point is 00:10:40 And I think that's when you have the two, like, pegs. Yes. And then you have to take it out and put it up, right? And climb? This is American Ninja Warrior. This is not... There's no way. There's no way.
Starting point is 00:10:55 It's amazing. Try this one. You had to do a 45-second handstand. I've never been able to do a handstand. Never. I've been able to do zero seconds of it. I am an elite athlete. Try this one.
Starting point is 00:11:09 A man carry. Five miles. What? What do you mean a man? Five mile man carry. Is a man carry as obvious as it's... I think it is. You're carrying a human?
Starting point is 00:11:25 Like, I want to carry me that man. You got to carry me that man for five miles. I'm not sure. I can't carry any man for any mile. else. I mean, if I'm a, if I am a firefighter, count on burning in the house. You're just going to burn.
Starting point is 00:11:43 You're going to burn up in the house. Because I can't carry you out. I could get in there and go, yeah, I'm going to have to leave you. I'm going to have to leave you here. Can't help you. Sorry. It's also getting really hot in here. I got to go.
Starting point is 00:11:55 You got to do a five mile jog, an obstacle course. You had to swim prone for a mile. you had to swim under water for 50 yards, any strokes, two minutes, deep water front hang float with arms. What is a deep water front hang float with arms? Wait, wait, wait. It's a deep water front hang float with arms and ankles tied for six minutes.
Starting point is 00:12:25 What kind of Al-Qaeda PE class was this? Who is it? has access to, who is access to, like you're in the middle of the country. You might not have a deep water body nearby. Are you sure this was the actual test? This is the actual test. This is the actual. What is a deep water front hang float with arms and ankles tied for six minutes? Can you look that up? A deep water hang float is an aquatic exercise done in a deep end of a pool with the aid of a flotation device, such as a noodle or belt. In this position, the flotation device supports your upper body while your legs and torso
Starting point is 00:13:04 hang freely below you. The setup, what it is? I mean, I could do that. That's just, I can do that into a pool noodle. It's every weekend. What are you talking about? Can you bring a margarita? Man, I could, this test is no big deal.
Starting point is 00:13:21 What? No way. No way. Here's the last thing on the test. A vertical tread in an eight-foot circle for two hours. No way. Vertical tread in an eight-foot circle? So you're in the water and you're treading water in a circle.
Starting point is 00:13:41 For how many hours? For two hours? Two. This is not. This is not to not be the test. I told you this is the top of the test. I told you this is the top of the test. So this was for the ones who could do all of the other tests.
Starting point is 00:13:55 This was the top of the test. The bottom of the test is not that much better. Here's the entry, okay? Let's see. Pull-ups, 2-6-6-10. I don't know what that means. Push-up 16, 24-32. Bar-dips, 4-8-and-12.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Sit-ups, 30, 45, and 60. Broad jump, 6-foot, 6-6-6-6-6-9. To jump six feet? I didn't even know if that's I mean That one is possible Glenn yes I know it sounds incredible But yes
Starting point is 00:14:33 That sounds incredible Is possible You know I think we should have The average person Olympics I really do I really do I would watch that I would watch that every time
Starting point is 00:14:43 Because you see them coming You know And you're like Hmm That one's not three feet I give in him three feet Uh 200 yard shuttle Uh agility
Starting point is 00:14:54 Agility run rope climb 18 feet hands only 880 yards in 3 minutes a mile in 7 minutes pegboard 6 holes a 50 yard
Starting point is 00:15:09 swim 40 40 50 yard swim in 36 seconds man carry 880 yards no thank you no thank you look at what we've gone down that's the bottom
Starting point is 00:15:26 of it, and I don't think most Americans could do that. I couldn't. Well, I could, because I'm an elite. I have the body of an elite athlete. You, yeah, no. You could not. Now, of course, you, now, in your, let's just say,
Starting point is 00:15:39 this is supposed to be for a high school kid, right? So this is the prime of your athletic life. Could you do some of these things, probably? Go into high school. Go into any high school and ask them to do this. There's no way. And all of the kids would be, nah, yeah, me, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Well, that's kind of what the reaction's been. I mean, don't give me wrong. I would have been there too. And my parents would have said, suck it up. Just do it. So nothing's really changed. But that's been the reaction to this proposal, too,
Starting point is 00:16:10 of bringing this back, right? Like the media is covering it. It's like, it's going to embarrass children. You know, I mean, I do remember being like, I can't do that. I'm not going to be able to get to the top of that rope. That's not happening. That's, you know, sort of life, right?
Starting point is 00:16:24 Like, sometimes you can do things. sometimes you can't do other things, right? Like, that's... It's why you have to learn how to injure yourself. Right. You know, how many stairs can I throw myself down to not do serious damage, but enough to get me out of BE. Yeah, you have to fake an injury.
Starting point is 00:16:39 You have to, like, learn from LeBron James. Like, act like you got hit in the eye and fall down and like you were just stabbed over and over again during an athletic competition. No way. No way. And you know what? Honestly, if we, this is why we're not having sex with each other. We're not having kids.
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Starting point is 00:18:16 972 Patriot. Now back to the podcast. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. One of my good friends, a guy who I just so admired. is Peter Switzer or admire. I still admire him. He is the president of the government accountability institute. He is the host of The Drill Down, which is a podcast. He has written numerous books. He's an investigative reporter, been on this program a million times, and is always way ahead of the game. He's brought to my attention some land exchanges that are going on with China here on our own country, exchanges for dollars, and they are still buying up more land and nobody's doing anything about it.
Starting point is 00:18:58 And then there's a story today about the 600,000 Chinese students that Donald Trump is letting come in. Now, there's got to be more of this story on why he's allowing that. But, I mean, these are people that, if I'm not mistaken, and that's my first question, Peter, aren't these students? You have to be close to the CCP to be able to travel to the United States. Don't you have to be well connected with the communes? Party. Yeah, that's right, Glenn. I mean, look, the reason I think that Trump is allowing this to happen is because this is a top priority for G, and they're trying to negotiate a whole bunch of things. But I still think it is a mistake. And here's why. There are 600,000 Chinese students that come to the
Starting point is 00:19:46 United States. American students going to China is a trickle. So this is not about an exchange of ideas. It's not like junior era abroad in Italy where you learn more about Italian culture and you remember the rest of your life. It's not that at all. The students that come to the United States are screened for their political views, their families are screened for their political views. Their costs are borne by the Chinese government. So when they are here, they are functionaries of the Chinese government. And if they fail to fall in line or do what they're asked, damage can come to their family. damage can come to them. And the entire premise behind the student exchanges going back to the 1980s
Starting point is 00:20:27 is that this would make the Chinese elite more like us, right? They get to know us. They become friendly. They become more Americanized. The vast majority of the hardline aids around President G were educated in the United States, primarily at places like Harvard. So it's not working. The Chinese leadership is actually more hardline now than it was under Ku Jintao or under Deng Xiaoping, and they're more Western educated, so it's not doing what they claimed it was going to do. So why is he doing this? I think Trump's doing it because he is trying to secure, you know, a series of trade deals with the Chinese. He's trying to deal with them on the Ukraine-Russia war, a pressure Russia.
Starting point is 00:21:11 He's got a whole bunch of things on his agenda. This is a priority for Xi. I would say one of his... I understand that, but why would it be a priority for Xi? I mean, he gets 600,000 spies here in the United States. Yes, that's correct. And so here's what we know. We know the Chinese students coming to the United States have engaged in espionage. And by the way, they're not coming here to study comparative literature or sociology. They're vast, vast majority over 90 percent are in the hard sciences.
Starting point is 00:21:42 So it is stealing our secrets. We also know, by the way, that the fentanyl trade in the United States, as we've talked about before the Chinese are intimately involved in that. A key component of the money laundering is Chinese students in the United States who are taking suitcases full of cash to Chinese state-owned banks. This is well documented. So there is a component to it there. There's also a political component to it. Chinese students in the United States have done everything from shout down speakers on college campuses that are critical of China. There have been reports in California of Chinese students being bused to places like San Francisco to engage in counter
Starting point is 00:22:24 protests when people are concerned about human rights in Tibet. When President Xi remembered visited San Francisco, there were thousands of Chinese students bust in there to organize pro-Gi rallies. So there's also a political force component to this. Wasn't there not, one or two students or were they just scientists, just recently, that we're trying to bring in really dangerous stuff and we caught them, but twice we caught them. That just happened a couple of months ago. Do you remember that story, Peter? Yes, that's exactly right. And so, yeah, these were scientists, but these are scientists that
Starting point is 00:23:02 oftentimes are educated in the West. They take on research lab positions at American universities like the University of Michigan, as in this particular case. And so they sometimes bring in dangerous things. There was a report in Canada of Chinese students that were bringing in pathogens related to COVID back in 2019, widely reported in Canada. So it's an enormous problem, and it's not really something that we are focused on. Again, we are teaching, we are treating them as if they're German exchange students or Americans studying in Italy. That is not how China views this. They view this as a component and an extension of the state, and the students need to follow online and if they don't, they're going to suffer serious consequences.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Donald Trump is so strategic and nothing he does is without several things down the line. He's usually playing 3D chess. He's way ahead of everybody else. I cannot imagine what we're getting out of this that would balance this in our favor, but we'll have to see. Is anything being done on the Chinese buying up land? I know you're on a big story now about how much land is being. purchased up in the Northeast, that is extraordinarily dangerous.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Yeah, so we're working on a report right now. One of our top researchers picked 20 military bases at random in the United States, and he wanted to look at land records and say, of those 20 military installations, how many have Chinese-owned land that is just adjacent to those military bases? The answer, Glenn, is all 20. So this is a massive problem. You know, land purchases is not regulated at the national level of the United States. They not necessarily should be.
Starting point is 00:24:55 It's done at the state level. And certain states like Florida and others have worked hard to pass legislation in this area. The problem is you have states like California where there was legislation passed in the state senate, the state assembly on a bipartisan basis that said foreign hostile governments, it didn't even say individuals, just foreign hostile governments cannot buy land in California. Gavin Newsom actually vetoed that bill. So the problem is, yeah, it was that narrowly written bipartisan support. Gavin Newsom vetoed that bill. And I think part of the reason, frankly, is, you know, he's involved in the wine business. He has land of vineyards in the wine area. And Chinese state companies have been buying up a vineyards in Napa Valley. So probably would have
Starting point is 00:25:48 affected the valuations of his property. That's, I think, one of the motivations. And as we've talked about before, he has a, let's say, long history of association with people involved in the United Front groups and, frankly, people involved with Chinese organized crimes. So the land issue is not going anywhere. It's a major problem. Peter, if I'm just looking at this on the surface, I immediately think back to what Ukraine did to Russia with the drones, where they were in these trucks. They were right outside the military base, and they destroyed things that we could, we in our wildest dreams, couldn't have destroyed just a few years ago. And it was because of drones. And it was a whole new line of attack.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Everybody knows that China is the leader in drone technology. I mean, they are just way ahead of everybody. If you don't, if you have a drone and it's not what is a DGI, DJ, AI, it's not the best. It's all coming from China. If you have property all around the United States, all adjacent to our military bases, that is a direct threat to our national security. I mean, you could have a barn full of those drones or a truck full of those drones, and you could take everything out on those military bases quickly, and America wouldn't have any time to respond. Is it deeper than that?
Starting point is 00:27:11 on concerns? Well, I think, yeah, I think that's the main one is, right? The ability not only to cause kinetic damages, the Ukrainians have shown by you flown drones and you blow things up. And look, even our most secure military bases are not going to be able to defend against attack like that. You have the additional problem that you could do something more stealthy. You could take drones, you know, with pathogens, with poisons, and introduce them into a
Starting point is 00:27:41 military installation. So yeah, it's a massive, massive problem. And the notion that we can't even limit the Chinese government or government state-owned companies from buying real estate, that that somehow is a violation of some constitutional right, as if the Chinese government has constitutional rights in the United States is patently absurd. So this is something we've got to continue to address. We're going to keep exposing it. You've been on the front lines of it, Glenn. And it's one of those things I think that people innately understand. When you think about currency flows, when you think about money laundering, it gets complicated.
Starting point is 00:28:21 This is very real and basic and understandable. Yeah. Peter, as always, thank you very much. Thanks for your hard work. We'll talk again. Peter Swiser. Thanks, Lynn. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Welcome to the program, Claire. How are you? Hello, I'm doing well. How are you? I'm really good. I watched your video, and the story of you and your mom is so unbelievably compelling. And especially since, I mean, I'm a father of four, and, you know, I have children, my children have told me all kinds of things. And it is so hard as a parent, especially at this time when everything is so confused. and all of the experts are saying, no, your kid's going to kill themselves. It is what your mom went through, let alone what you went through,
Starting point is 00:29:20 but what your mom went through is just, I think, so universal to some degree or another. And I want to thank you for coming on and telling your story. Can you start at 14? What happened? I can. Yeah. Well, it'd be better to start a little. little earlier. I started identifying as trans when I was 12 years old following a sexual assault
Starting point is 00:29:53 and some pretty severe bullying that I was experiencing at school. And adopting this identity gave me, well, one, it gave me the ability to pretend to be a new person, someone that this didn't happen to. And it also gave me an entire social network, a whole friend group of other kids who felt similarly to the way I did. And I fell into this social group and started seeing therapists recommended by the people in the support groups that we were going to. And they made my parents feel like abusers for being skeptical for wanting to take pause before like making irreparable changes to their child's body. Did anyone say, any doctor say, hang on, we should look at the abuse. We should, I mean, this might be something that is tied to the abuse and to those experiences.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Did anybody say that and take that seriously? No one. No one. My mom asked about the the abuse, the bullying, all these things that I'd gone through, disordered eating. And she was told in no uncertain terms, no, that does not make a child think that they're trans. That has nothing to do with it. And these are doctors like at Cook Children's Hospital in Dallas, a fantastic Children's Hospital. So they have credibility with parents, right? One of the most well-funded children's hospitals in the nation, yes. interesting way of verifying what I said the most well-funded.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Okay, so at 14, you were put on testosterone, and then like six months later, they're talking about surgery? Yeah, no. I started testosterone in November of 2018, and by January, I was approved for surgery. It didn't happen until... June, but that was just because we wanted to wait until the summer between May 8th and 9th grade years. That's pretty young. You're not legal to do anything at that point. Right. I couldn't get a learner's permit. So what did they tell you about the surgery and what didn't they tell you about the surgery?
Starting point is 00:32:34 They told me that I was transgender, that I had gender dysphoria, and that the only effective treatment for gender dysphoria was chemical and surgical intervention. That if I didn't go through with this, the most likely outcome was suicide. That's what they told my parents right in front of me. And they didn't tell me that they would be performing a drains-free mastectomy on me, meaning there was a significantly higher risk of fluid buildup and after rejection as a result, which did end up happening. They didn't tell me that I would permanently take away my ability to breastfeed. They didn't tell me that the majority of kids who look to pursue this end up growing out.
Starting point is 00:33:42 of it. There was a lot of things that I wasn't told. So, I mean, but you weren't told, like, serious, like, you know, pelvic floor dysfunction and urinary incontinence and anything. I mean, I see commercials on TV for, you know, drugs, and they go into 45 seconds of all of the things that could possibly happen to you. There weren't required to tell you these things? No, they were required. They just didn't. They just didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:34:15 The SEC and the DOJ are investigating now. They're still doing it, aren't they? The doctor who did it to me is currently being sued by the Attorney General of Texas for continuing to do it after it was banned. So when did you know, I heard you talk about how when, you know, the double-man the bandages came off and you cried and everybody thought there were tears of joy but you weren't so sure what what was like when did you start going uh-oh uh-oh what have i done there was always sadness surrounding my chest but the the narrative that they tell you in the
Starting point is 00:35:12 trans community is that everyone kind of feels bad after surgery it's post-op depression is what they call it. And that, I believed that it was just post-stop depression for around a year until, what actually happened was a girl on my high school's volleyball looking about a breast reduction. And I learned what a breast reduction was from that and realized that a complete mastectomy was not the only option that was available to me, that things were hidden from me. And that's when things started, tide started changing for me. So when did you start trying to speak out? Because they silenced you immediately, right?
Starting point is 00:36:01 Off of, I started posting on the internet in like 2021 about what happened to me. But I wasn't fully woken up to the reality of the situation until last December. That's when I had my first public event. And what did you wake up to? That were harming children, that there's no such thing as a trans child and no one is born in the wrong body. That you don't become your true self by cutting off pieces of yourself. You, in your story, said that at one point, you started wearing like a padded bra and you didn't want your mom to know about it. And I thought it was heartbreaking how you were protecting your mom, and maybe you didn't know it at the time.
Starting point is 00:37:17 But can you go through that part of the story? Yeah, the realization, after I learned what a breast reduction was, I started, I got curious about women's faction. Again, I started wanting to be seen as a girl again. And so I started wearing padded bras in secret. And I would hide them under my mattress whenever I got home from school. And one day, my mom found one of these padded bras. And she asked me if she had made a mistake, basically, if all of this had been for nothing. So wait, wait, wait, not if you made a mistake, but if she had made the mistake.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Yes. Well, I mean, I was a child, and we all knew that I was a child and that this was ultimately not my decision. It was the remaining medical professionals and guardians who had to sign off on this. But yeah, she asked if all of this had been a mistake and I got really defensive and upset. And I told her that I lashed out at her and I told her that this was why I didn't tell her that I knew she was going to overreact and make it a big deal. But it was a big deal. And that's why she made it one. No, I didn't tell her that I regretted my transition.
Starting point is 00:39:10 I didn't tell her that I was detransitioning until I decided to get breast implants when I was 18. When you're how old? 18. 18. And that's when you told your mom when you were sitting in the meeting for reconstructive surgery, right? Yes. Or going to the meeting. How is your mom doing?
Starting point is 00:39:35 She lives with a lot of pain and a lot of regret. We talk about it a lot. There's a lot to unpack and there's a lot of wounds that will never really fully be healed. but she loves me. And I've never questioned that she did this because she loves me. And she thought she was saving my life. So you can understand how parents are just as duped as the 14-year-old? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:17 I mean, when you're sitting in front of a mandated reporter who you've entrusted with your child's life and they're telling you that you're killing them, that your child is cutting themselves and starving themselves because you won't go along with this identity they've claimed, it would take a lot of prior knowledge of this issue and a lot of, like, very strong will to be able to overlook that, to be able to say, no, I know what's best. So now the FTC is looking into, um, whether the pediatric gender medicine industry is deceiving families, hiding risk, making false claims. And this could really be a big impact on stopping this nightmare.
Starting point is 00:41:13 What do people do to help? Well, if you are someone who has been affected by pediatric medical transition, or if you know someone who has, the FTC is taking comments from the public, submissions for people to, investigate, essentially. And if you need any assistance, filling out that submission, the LGBT Courage Coalition, helping people to submit those forms. And if you don't, if you're not someone who is affected and you don't know anyone, spreading the word is a great way to help sharing things like the IWF documentary. and my mom participated because people really believe that this isn't happening.
Starting point is 00:42:11 People need to know. I want you, I urge you to go to IWF.org, IWF.org and read and learn and watch. And you can go there and you can actually submit a comment directly to the FTC as well and urge them to crack down on the mutilation of our children. Claire, thank you. Thank you for being brave enough to share all. this and tell your mom we pray for not only you but also her. God bless. Thank you, Glenn. Bless you.
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