The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Rep. Barry Loudermilk & Max Lucado | 9/25/24

Episode Date: September 25, 2024

New polls have come out on the number of people who plan to vote in this year's presidential election, and they show that fewer people of faith are planning to head to the ballot box. Glenn and Stu discuss how detrimental this can be, as Glenn urges people to think about the consequences. Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-Ga.) joins to discuss the newly released testimony that completely debunks the Left's narrative on January 6. Minister and author Max Lucado joins to explain how people of faith could single-handedly change this year's presidential election. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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On today's podcast, if you are a religious person, you want to hear this poll. Religious people, only about 50 percent. Vote. 50 percent. You need to listen to today's episode. It's very important that you take what is said seriously. And we talk to Max Lucato about that. He joins the program to talk about this and even a little bit about the end times and what they may look like. And are we in them? And Representative Barry Loudermilk of George, Georgia joins the program. We finally have some more truth about President Trump's actions in trying to make sure that January 6th didn't get out of control. It's really important. So important that President Trump gets this out there to everyone to see. Maybe you can help on that. And we heard from some of you, how bad your energy and insurance prices have skyrocketed under the Harris Biden administration on our full show podcast. But right now, you're locked in with the best of the Glenn Beck podcast. We have it for you. next. First, let me tell you, playing self-defense is all about leveling the playing field, right? That's why carrying a firearm is such an important thing. It is the ultimate equalizer. And that's a good

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are going to go out and vote. What would you say people of, you know, that are religious? Or how many, what's a percentage that actually go out and vote? I mean, 60, 70? Hmm. Yeah. Well, in 2020, it was 61%. Okay.

Yeah. That's meant me where my impression came from. In 2016, it was 54.6. Wrong direction there? In 2012, 53. Now, based on the survey, the new one, seven weeks prior to the election, if the election were held at the time of the survey, the expected turnout would be 50%. Surprising, it's going down. Yeah.

Of all things, you'd think, almost the feelings. are more intense to vote than they would be 25 years ago. Now, can you imagine if 70% of people who identified themselves as religious and were actually using the principles that they learned actually went out and voted? Can you imagine? My next six weeks are hell, Glenn. This is my, not my worst time of the year, but my worst time of the four years. this section of life sucks.

Yeah, I know, I know. And if that happened, it would make my life a lot better because I wouldn't have to really think that much about this stuff. I wouldn't have to run numbers every day. I wouldn't have to do any of that stuff because Donald Trump would win easily. If he had seven, if it was instead of 50% of voters who were religious voting, it was 70, there wouldn't be much of a doubt who's going to win this election. if you are a theologically defined born-again Christian 52% turn out Protestant 52 Catholic 58

Evangelical 53 mainline Protestant church 57 Pentecostal 50% attend a non-denominational Christian church 46% self-identified Christian Christian 52 aligned with non-Christian faith, 50%. Self-identified Christian regularly attends church, 61%. Now here's the reason why people say they're not voting. The reason given by two-thirds of the non-voters, 68%. They say they're just not interested in politics or elections. You probably should be because they're interested in you.

Politicians are certainly interested in you, and they're really interested when you don't pay attention. 68% I don't pay attention. Other reasons? More than half of the non-voters included disliking all of the major candidates. 57%, 55% feeling that none of the candidates reflect their most important views. 52% say, my vote's not going to make a difference. Half of the non-voters say they will avoid voting because the election has become

too controversial for their liking. 48% say, well, the election's going to be rigged. Not knowing enough about the candidate, 48%. How is that possible? I mean, I've, you know, all of the things that you could say, that one, I don't know enough.

Well, you're seven weeks away. You could, you know, you go look them up. You could do that. Guys, voting started. It's time to, Right. Get the engines running. How many states have already started voting?

I don't know that. Pennsylvania, Minnesota, South Dakota, New Jersey, Vermont, Virginia, Illinois and Wyoming start this week. So that's time. I mean, it might be time to look at it. Right. So here's a couple of things that you can do. If you are in a church, you need to convince your pastor or priest or whatever. to teach the congregants that voting is a biblical responsibility of every Christian, it would cause an estimated 17% of the people of faith who plan not to vote actually participate in Election Day.

If your pastor, your priest, your leader said, this is biblically required your participation in an election to pick sound people. that's your responsibility. 17% more would vote. Hmm, is that true? No, I just made those numbers up. No, no, I don't mean the numbers. I mean, is it biblically required to... Oh, yeah.

To select righteous leaders. I mean, I think it's certainly a civic duty, but I don't think I'd ever thought about it in those terms. I mean, we talk about the stuff all the time. That would make... I mean, if someone made a good argument to me other than you, that would probably, if I was a person on a fence. I can get somebody on.

No, I can get somebody on. But I think if I was on the fence on that and I heard, hey, like, here's this scripture that tells you you need to do this. That would be something that I think from a pastor or priest. See if we can get Max Lekato on a phone. Another 14% claim that if they perceived the race to be close enough that their vote might actually make a difference, then they would cast a ballot. it. Well, I mean, it doesn't get any closer than this one. And, you know, and Donald Trump once states, I mean, what was the closest state? 11,000? About that, yeah. Yeah, 11,000. Right. Yeah. If, if you choose, there are going to be other people like you. It is razor thin, close. A guilt-based or fear-based strategy might impact one out of every 10. You're going to hell if you're

don't do it. I like that. I mean, I'm willing to say that. I mean, I'm not going to judge it, but you are going to hell if you don't find. One out of, one out of ten non-voters said that if a religious leader, they highly respect, endorsed a presidential candidate, then they could justify voting. What is that? I don't understand that. I don't understand that one at all. I mean, you don't trust yourself. You don't have your own intellect. You don't have access to God. What is that. You do your own homework, then you pray on it, and you make a decision based on that. So what are the things that can actually make a difference? Well, let's look. For those people who are objecting that they're not interested in politics or election, I know it seems like

Washington is a far, far away place. However, political decisions influence everything you do. This one could mean you either keep your health care or you lose your health care. One candidate is saying they're going to get rid of all private insurance and we're going to go to a system like Canada. You don't want that. So you have health care. How about education? Are your kids in school?

tell me how one side is pushing for drag queen story hours in kindergarten and taking away your children if you don't confirm their gender selection. How does that not affect you? It's not removed from you. It is very, very close. One is talking about taking away private businesses. if they cared to, taking away your right to free speech, you can't say certain things,

and if you do, you could go to jail. You'll be shut down. One is talking about price controls, which over and over and over again throughout history will drive the cost of your food and everything you buy through the roof. It doesn't work. How does that not?

personally affect you. It does. It does. Everything you do, this election will touch you. You dislike all of the candidates. Okay, I can get that. I understand that. But sometimes it is the lesser evil mentality. But I don't think that's the case here. I think you could make a case that there is evil and then there is, I don't like the guy. Anyone who tries to take your freedom to choose, your freedom, they will make the decisions for you. They will run your life. They will tell you what stove you can and cannot buy.

They will tell you what you do with your own property. They will tell you exactly how you're paid. They'll take more of your money to do what with it. to go kill more people around the world? I mean, look, I was for the Iraq war. I was wrong on that. It was the information I had at the time, but I really thought we were really different this time around.

I thought we were going in to win things and not just to flex our muscles and really do nothing but waste lives. we see that that wasn't true. I've changed. I think most people have changed. So what side are you on? The side of, you know, it's really amazing to me.

The only right that Kamala's side will fight for is the right to kill. You don't have a right to free speech. You don't have a right to think differently. you don't have a right to stand up and say, no, wait a minute, hang on just a second. I don't think that's right. You're going to lose your right to your property. What right do they stand for? The right to murder children, the right to mutilate children, and the right to go to war and

kill people. That doesn't sound good. None of the candidates reflect your most important views. What are your most important views? My most important view is individual freedoms and liberties, that everybody has a right to make their own way. If your most important views don't reflect the Declaration of Independence, then you don't know what an American is. An American believes that there are certain things that are self-evident, and among these things are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness and that all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain

unmovable rights that no man can change and the governments are instituted among men to protect those rights so the government's real power is not in Washington it's with you I can't think of a more important idea than that one and you might think well that of course I believe that Well, yeah, but a lot of people no longer believe that. If you do believe that, you have to go and vote for that because one side believes in that. The other side no longer believes it. They'll give you lip service, but they're also telling you they're not, you know, they're not for banning fracking. They're not for all of these crazy bills that they were for.

Excuse me? Kamala's whole life, her whole life has been about those things. In six weeks, she just changed her mind on everything. It's not reasonable. And as I said, your vote will make a difference. It's closer than you think even in Texas. Everyone needs to vote. And if you're a religious person, it doesn't matter if your vote doesn't.

count. It will. But you have a civic and religious responsibility to let your voice be heard in selecting good, honorable, or the most honorable person that you can find. The one that is standing up for the principles that you and I believe in. You know, once upon a time, we lived in a country with a wide diversity of opinions, but a basic set of shared values. See, that's the problem. We're arguing opinions. We should be arguing about values. Do you think this is good for your children to have, you know, laptop story hour? Laptop really kind of takes new meaning now in schools. I mean, really? Is that good? Is that our values? We have to share values. We might not all have the same religion or, you know, the same opinion. But we could agree, for instance, that life was precious at one point.

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and we really want to thank you for listening. My good friend Max Lekato, hi, Max. How are you? Hello, Glenn. I love the idea of supporting these businesses. The one you just announced, I'm going to check that out. Thank you. Dude, they're really good people, Max.

You'd love them. So, Max, let's start with the question that I had this morning. Aren't we required as followers of Christ and, you know, even the God of the Old Testament, to vote and select leaders? To remind everybody that we are a church set by God's authority or God's servants, your taxes, you pay your tax, but he could have. I think what he's reminding us to do is that if we live in a culture and directing... So, and Max, you could stop.

at any time. I don't know how far down this road you want to go, but there are people that will say, well, I can't vote for Donald Trump because he's done all these bad things and, you know, whatever they, whatever they're convinced of.

And, you know, I don't like the way he talks. I don't like the way he has treated women or whatever. How do you talk to somebody if, because he does represent a much more biblical agenda than the other side. And the other side is looking at things that just go against the scriptures like crazy. How do you, how do you talk to people when you say, well, there's no,

there's, I don't like either of them. Finding a candid. So how do you, if you're just going to go off of, you know, your faith. And it's not just that you, you, it's not just that you, don't like it, you think that they're both offensive to your faith. Okay, well, I know people who think I can't vote for him and I can't vote for her. How do you, how do you decide in that, in that case, how, what scriptures would you point us to that could help you decide, like what values are, are we looking for? The two would be to make a list of the values, I love your, you know, conversation to as you make a list of the values that you sense the Lord has placed 30%

with street integration. But we make a list of the values that matter to you. Wait. I'm the candidate. Comptual telling people to values what is a lover of Christ, what matters to you? Because the Holy Spirit candidate that reflects a candidate that represents such direction. What if your value, one of your main values is honesty and integrity? No, I really don't.

Pacific, dramatic, but I need to be over dramatic. I'm aware of direction and lean in that way. If you've got to hold your nose when you... So, Max, I've known you for a long time, and I just love you. And I know you as a very positive guy. And I'm not one that I didn't expect you to write the book, what happens next. And that's all about the signs of the end times

and what all of that means. And why did you decide to write that now? Yeah. It's just what we're seeing in the world in today's headlines only about Israel and Hezbole. We're not in tribulation. No, sir. We're not in tribulation. Yeah, okay.

We're just headed that direction. I know there are others who say we will endure that tribulation. That's a good, robust conversation. But I do believe that the Lord is 1948 when Israel became a nation, a new chapter in human history. Yeah. So we just got to pay attention.

You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck podcast. Hear more of this interview and others with the full show podcast. Available wherever you get podcasts. All right. We have Representative Barry Laudermilk with us. He is going to talk to us a little bit about the newly released transcripts from January 6th. and the transcripts that show what Donald Trump said in the days leading up to January 6, urging the Pentagon to take extra security measures to keep January 6 safe,

and they didn't do it. Representative from Georgia, Barry a louder milk. Barry, how are you? Good, Glenn. Appreciate you having me on again. You bet. So tell me what this is actually showing us, because it's not just, if I mean, read the president what he said,

there's going to be a large amount of protesters here on the six. Make sure that you have a sufficient National Guard or soldiers to make sure it's a safe event. I don't care if you use Guard or soldiers, active duty soldiers, do what you have to do. Just make sure it's safe. That's what the president said leading up. And yes. Go ahead. And that was a sworn testimony by General Millie.

to the Department of Defense Inspector General. And that conversation happened on January 3rd, three days leading up to January 6th. And when did he testify to that? He testified to that. It would have been later in 2021 to the Department of Defense Inspector General. Now, what got us in this direction is we were investigating the two delays of National Guard coming to the Capitol. There was the first of Laco's U.S. Capitol Police Chief signed. He sensed the same thing the president did.

There are going to be a lot of people here. We're in the middle of COVID. A lot of the Capitol police officers are being quarantined or they're sick. He didn't have a full force. He wanted some additional forces and requested D.C. National Guard. Now, that requires an official request for the D.C. National Guard because the president can't just deploy military forces without a request. a separation of powers issue. Under current law, that had to come from the Capitol Police Board, which pretty much Pelosi

is going to be involved in that decision-making. But for whatever reason, his request was denied internally within Congress. So he had made a request. Even on to January 6th, he had made requests, like when the outer perimeters were breached, he wanted National Guard. That was denied. That was denied. Finally, when shots were fired in the Capitol, the Democrats are like, well, we need help.

At 2.30, the formal request was made to the Pentagon. Send the troops. Now, we already know, as you just brought up, that President Trump had ordered the National Guard to be ready to appointment. That was the order. That's what General Milley said. And we know that they took that seriously because the National Guard on January 6th was mustered at the armory, less than two miles away from the Capitol, with riot air ready to deploy. They were already there.

So we know that somebody took that seriously. But from 2.30, when the request was made, there was about a three-hour delay before the order was given for the National Guard to deploy. That's what we started looking into. Now, the IG started looking into that as well, the Department of Defense IG.

Their report was the National Guard wasn't ready. That's why they didn't go. It was National Guard's fault. Well, we started having senior officers and enlisted members from the National Guard coming to us as whistleblowers saying, that isn't at all what happened. So we started launching an investigation into the DODIG report. And after this has been a month and months of battle with the Department of Defense, quite frankly, that's the 800-pound gorilla in this town. I didn't think we were going to get anywhere. But Providence, something. broke loose and they provided us all the evidence that they had acquired the DODIG in their investigation, which was 44 transcribed interviews under oath. When we got those, we realized this was a huge cover up because they were purposely, the National Guard was purposely delayed by the Pentagon. They did not want the National Guard here. They didn't like the optics. Some were but that was most of. Nobody liked the optics,

but we didn't have senior officials who were saying, my ultimate plan was to make sure the National Guard never got anywhere close to the Capitol. Jeez. So tell me about Christopher Miller, because if I'm reading this right, he was the acting Secretary of Defense. He said,

the president commented that they were going to need 10,000 troops the following day. I interpreted it as a bit of presidential banter or President Trump banter that you're all familiar with. And in no way, shape, or form did I interpret that as an order or direction? On January 6th, everyone was like, did you hear the president's speech? I'm like, the guy speaks for 90 minutes. It's like Castro or something. No, I got work to do. I was cognizant of the fears that the president would invoke the Insurrection Act to politicize the military in an anti-democratic matter. And just before the Electoral College certification, 10 former secretaries of defense signed an op.

Ed piece published in the Washington Post warning of the dangers of politicizing and using inappropriately the military. Nothing like that was going to occur on my watch. That's correct. And that was testimony that he gave to the Department of Defense IG under oath. And what he's talking about is Liz Cheney kind of orchestrated in advance an op-ed by former defense officials basically setting a stage. You know, they were afraid that Trump was. was going to come out and try to use the military to stop the count. There is nothing that any evidence that we have obtained or that we can find anywhere to indicate that that was in his mindset.

But as I said earlier, someone took what Trump said as serious because the National Guard had already been recalled. They were mustard. They were ready to go in the morning of January 6th. In fact, when the general commanding the D.C. National Guard finally was shown that statement that Trump made to General Millie, he said, I would have taken that as a direct order. Politics and your political belief should never be a factor involved when it comes to safety and security. And I would also counter this. If they were afraid that there was an act of

insurrection that was going to take place. And they saw the violence going on at the Capitol that day. And that was an act of insurrection. Did they participate in it by holding back the very troops that could quell it? And, you know, there's one thing about taking an order that is constitutional and one that is not. So in other words, if he said, look, there's going to be a possible riot. We need 10,000 troops there. Let's make sure the capital is safe. Okay, well, I'm worried that he's going to use those troops for something else. No, because the military has to execute what the president says unless it's an unlawful order. Then it is their responsibility to not say, well, I was just following orders. In our country, you don't have that excuse. So if it was an unconstitutional order,

the Pentagon could have stopped it, correct? Right. Instead, they were just subordinate, right? Is that the right word? Not only, I think that that's right. It's subordination, but also premeditated. Yes. I think there's a case to be made that this was premeditated because on January the 5th,

the Secretary of the Army revised or sent a memo to General Walker, who was the commanding, the D.C. National Guard and placed greater restrictions on him on when he can deploy. And how? I mean, they even restricted you can't be armed. Okay. It's all kind of restrictions. But basically what he said is you cannot deploy without my express permission that I have to give you the order. And that was unprecedented. That was the day before. So basically, General Walker's in the situation where if President Trump called him directly and said, get over there. and the Secretary of the Army didn't tell him he would be in subordination.

So there were greater restrictions placed on the D.C. National Guard, which to me shows some kind of pre-de meditation. Maybe it was fear that Trump was going to go rogue or whatever, but he's still the commander-in-chief. And the request was to get National Guard there to help keep the Capitol safe, not to participate in anything, but to help keep it safe. You can't convict somebody of future crimes. You know, you can't say, well, this is what he intended. No, what he said as the commander in chief is keep the capital safe. Now, if he would have said, you know what, go in and tell Congress they are going to, no, Mr. President, that's unconstitutional.

I will not give that order. And if he got on TV and said, you know, I'm telling them now to go in, the American people would not have been with him. they wouldn't have been with him right no not at all but here's there's there's there's so many angles to this here one is how did the do d o dig out of all this exact same evidence that we're looking at how did they come up with a report that it was the National Guard that was the problem this I'm still getting my head wrapped around this there is no way you could come up with that conclusion unless you're just trying to cover for people who did things they shouldn't do senior officers, senior civilians within the Department of Defense.

And so we're asking of the Department of Defense IG, how can this be? And when are you going to correct this? Of course, their response is we don't see any need to correct it. But we have now made all this public. People can make this decision for themselves. I've said from the beginning, I'm coming to this from an unbiased opinion. We're going to just get the facts out there and let the facts speak for themselves. And there's another angle to this that's a problem.

There are senior executive level folks in the DOD that testified one thing to the Department of Defense IG, but testified differently to the select committee on January 6th. They shall go to jail. They're under oath. And so this is something that we're starting to look at now, doing a side-by-side comparison. Did their story change? Did they have a better understanding? or was it that they were confident that the DOD, their testimonies to DOD IG would never make it outside of the IG.

Unbelievable. So it's just more layers of the story, the corruption, and the cover-ups that have happened regarding January 6th because as it comes down to it, the select committee on January 6 had a predetermined narrative. They had before they started it all, Nancy Pelosi had already said what their final report was going to say. and they were going to collect evidence to support it. And as we've talked on this show before, any evidence that didn't support it or actually told a different story, they suppressed, they hid, or they deleted. And fortunately, we've been able to recover most of that.

Congressman Barry Loudermilk from the great state of Georgia, thank you so much for this. I want to just reiterate one more thing. This is the quote. Anybody wants to talk about January 6th, this is the quote, and you can get it from the House subcommittee on oversight. This is the quote from Donald Trump the day before. Hey, look at this. There's going to be a large

amount of protesters here on the 6th. Make sure that you have sufficient National Guard or soldiers to make sure it's a safe event. I don't care if you use guard, soldiers, active duty soldiers, do whatever you have to do. Just make sure it's safe. End quote.

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