The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Rep. Chip Roy & Rob McCoy | 9/24/25

Episode Date: September 24, 2025

Glenn discusses how America is entering a Bermuda Triangle of political violence, speech control, and uneven justice. Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas) joins to discuss what we know about the shooting at an ICE facility in Dallas and how America needs to fix its violence issue. Turning Point Faith Co-Chair and pastor of Charlie Kirk Rob McCoy joins to discuss how South Korea arrested a pastor in what is being called a "targeted arrest" against Christians. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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and the apply the application, and the appellate the title, of now. Wow, today's show took a wild turn just a few minutes before we went on the air because of the shooting that happened at the ICE headquarters. So we try to make sense of that all day. There's a couple of pleas on today's show that I hope you hear. But one is stop backing the violence. You have to break the loop. We're in a we're in a Bermuda triangle. America is

in a Bermuda triangle of violence right now and explain what that means and how to get out of that group. On the full show, this is the edited show, but on the full show, I go deeper into this. And I think it's really something you need to hear. We talked to Chip Roy. We've talked about what is happening. How do we fight this? And also Charlie Kirk's pastor, one of the bravest men I know, Rob McCoy. We talk a little bit about Charlie, but we talk about Charlie because I have decided to pick something up that Charlie was going to do after he got back. out of Utah and expose some things that are happening in South Korea. I had a young woman who had been working with Charlie on this in South Korea fly in.

She was in my office yesterday. When she goes home, she's probably going to be arrested. But they are arresting pastors in South Korea. What's happening in South Korea should be very disturbing. China is making a move and their Chinese-backed Marxist Mao, Mao, Marxist government is now doing everything they can to dismantle America and faith in South Korea. And you need to know about it. Rob will be here to tell you a little bit more about it, but also what you can do in your own personal life.

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a country. And if we do not have the spirit with us, if we are not policing our own selves right now, if we are not paying attention, we are going to get lost in this Bermuda triangle. And perhaps the whole ship of America will get lost here, but we are now in the Bermuda triangle. This triangle, one side of it is political violence. We have seen the unthinkable over the last few days. The assassination of Charlie Kirk attempts on a former president's life. The casual whispers that bloodshed is somehow or another inevitable and good and right and righteous. We have the shooting today, multiple rounds from an elevated position into the entryway of ice. We don't know who did it yet. We don't know their motivation. But three people,

critical condition. The shooter is now dead, self-inflicted gunshot wound. We don't know. But this is going to happen more and more. And our streets are out of control. Now, on the second side of this triangle is speech control. Governments, corporations, international bodies working in tandem NGOs to decide what can be said, what has to be silenced, and who's allowed to stand in the public square. And they'll tell us it's all for our public safety.

That's what happened last time under Biden. all for our safety. It wasn't for our safety. We find out now that the FBI was working with an NGO, a pro-abortion NGO that was helping them identify people that they thought should go to jail. It's never been done before in American history that we are aware of, at least, and it's going to be met by a big yawn. Google yesterday reinstating people that they were told had to get offline. And again, nobody's really reporting it. This freedom of speech stuff, censorship, it's happening. And it doesn't pacify violence. It fertilizes it.

When dissent can't be spoken, it festers in the dark. That's why you can't ever shut down speech. It's better to hear people know where they come from, try to understand it the best you can, and then police it the best you can in your own life. But you don't want to, I want to know who the bad guys are. I want to know who believes in communism and who doesn't.

Not because I'm going to do something about it, just so I can understand that's a person I don't trust. All of this stuff is done in darkness. They have been persecuting the right forever. But when their persecution, they've been picking at this scab on us for 20 years, for 20 years. They've been trying to get you to strike out, and you won't. And so what do they do?

they have to persecute you even more. And because we haven't stood up and slapped them down in the violent way that they want, they have to become violent because it's the only thing left to them now is violence. I told you this a couple of years ago that assassinations were on the way. It was the only thing the left had left, that and absolute revolution in the streets all across America. and it's it's here now we are in this Bermuda triangle so you the first side of this triangle is political violence the second side is speech control and that is happening especially in all Western countries it would be much worse here if we would have not won

this election but I want to bring up freedom of speech and you know are you know possible coming police state? I don't even know. How do you, with people not understanding basic rights like freedom of speech, with people turning everything inside out, so we no longer have the Bill of Rights as our common denominator, that we all understand that we are created and given these rights by God that no one can take away. How do you hold? a society together, especially if that society is becoming so immoral and so dark, they just kill people. Just kill them. You have a right to kill them. You disagree with them. What do you do with that? Okay. So what's the third side? The third side is justice that appears uneven. One set of rules for this

group, another set of rules for that group. Prosecutions here, immunity over there. Even if the facts are complicated, the perception of a two-tier justice system will break the backbone of a free society every single time because people will lose faith in the system and they no longer believe that the system will hear them fairly. So they stop knocking at the doors and then you get the Bubba effect. So you've got two sides. You have one side whose intent is to collapse the United States of America. it is to have revolution, and they have conned a great number of our citizens into believing that that's the right thing and that they're not the bad guys, they're not the fascist. The other side is. The other side is doing everything they can to not be violent and to say, I forgive you, I forgive you, I'm not going to engage like that.

I will keep my first citizenship to the kingdom of God while I protect my second citizenship. I will not act out of line. That's what you saw with Charlie Kirk. I will not respond in kind. But both sides, one is the agitator, one is the agitated. And if we give up that role that we're playing right now, it's over. It's over. So what do you do?

What is the possible? solution here. The only solution that I see is that we step out of this loop. And the best way to do that, something that everyone must do, we must sanctify once more the one principle that we all used to have as a very bottom line. I mean, this is the lowest hurdle that violence delitible. Delegitimicizes your cause. You are not legitimate cause if you are backing violence.

And there cannot be any hedging. There can't be any excuses. We defend free speech, even for those we despise, because it's the last relief valve before chaos. We demand equal justice under the law, not as a favor, but as a minimum condition of a free people. And when I say, I want justice under the law, equally. I don't mean

some social justice. I mean actual justice. I want that. I want justice to be blindfolded again. I don't care how you vote. I don't care what your color is. I don't care what you do, what you believe. The law is the law. And I want a fair constitutional trial for every single person. And if we can't get back to that, if we can't say there is, is no place for violence. No ifs, ands, buts, no excuses, nothing. Nothing. There is nothing that follows what happened today with ICE. If that was somebody on the left that's trying to put ice out of business,

or if that's somebody on the right who's sick and tired of, you know, illegals, you know, maybe they had their son or daughter killed or whatever by an illegal. You could come up with the most the most rational thing that they were like they were beyond their they had their kids killed or raped by illegals and so they just lost their mind and they went up on a shoe there is no excuse for it there is no excuse and that person must be tried in a court of law found guilty and pay the full punishment i don't care which side violence is not acceptable in politics period. Well, I do want to add, but the other, no. Period. And every single one of us must sanctify this now, because it's going to get worse. Do not tolerate somebody who says, well, what happened to Charlie Kirk was really wrong, but you know, no.

It's wrong. Period. Period. What happened in Minnesota, where God only knows that story. God only knows the names of those people that he was trying to kill. But when they killed that politician, when that guy came to the door dressed like a demon, that was wrong. Period. Period. It's an outrage. It's the destruction of our civilization.

Period. And all of us should have been saying that every single time. I know I am every single time. I'm pretty sure you are every single time. The other thing we have to do, if we're going to get out of this Bermuda Triangle alive, you must choose peace. That doesn't mean you passively sit on the sidelines.

You do not surrender, but you look to Christ for his example. you ask for the spirit to be with you all the time. If you don't foster having the Holy Spirit guide your every step, your every action, your every word every day, if you're not doubling down on your faith right now, you will not make it. You will be lost in the fog of this Bermuda Triangle.

There has to be enough of us that have that spirit so close, we can lead the rest out of this triangle. There is no way to save this country without God. There is no way. I'm telling you when you hear what I'm going to release next hour about South Korea, you will understand. You will understand. This country is surrounded.

And all of it is aiming its guns to us. Because if we collapse, it's over for freedom. So we have a choice. We can either stay asleep or we can argue back and forth about politics or we can start living our lives on the principles that built this nation. And I'm sorry, gang, it's uncomfortable for a lot of people. But this is a Christian principled nation first. And when I say that, it doesn't mean stone gaze. what it means is love thy neighbor.

That's what it means. Love those who hate you and despise you and pray for them. Give forgiveness. Ask for forgiveness. Lead. You're not getting this in your churches. And shame on them. Because our churches are the only ones.

That's their only job. That's their only job. and they're timid, they're afraid. Christ will not recognize you. He will not, you're not one of mine. Who are you? Well, I was talking about you didn't do anything. You talked.

You didn't do anything. Charlie Kirk gave his life for what he believed in. What have you done, pastor? Here's my call to you today. Break the loop. Speak up when you see violence excused. Push back when you see censorship. Cloaked as safety or kindness on any side.

Demand that justice is blind again. And live. Live, live, live. Fight for life. Live life. Live every second like it is your last second. And live it in a way that makes forgiveness possible. And if you do that, if you do that, America may be healed.

if you don't do that, that triangle is going to turn into a noose. The choice is ours. The choice is real. And the choice is right now. What is your optimism level on all that happening? 20 days ago, poor. Today, high. Really?

Yeah. I saw a miracle. I stood in that. I stood there. I was there. I was there. I witnessed it. There is something happening all around the world.

I was in my office yesterday with this brave, brave woman from South Korea. She's going back, probably going to prison. She knows it. She knows it. I said, can we help get you asylum here? She's like, no, my family is there. And I can't give up my country. What's happening, you know, you want to talk about freedom of speech?

Do you know Bible Gateway is blocked now in Europe? to get a Bible passage in some parts in Europe, it's being blocked. You can't get Bible passages. That's how far it has gone. They just threw a pastor in South Korea into prison. Why? For preaching the truth. For preaching the truth that you are in charge.

There is no king but Christ. This movement always, always goes after the Jews. I mean, it's a spirit. It's not flesh and bone. We're not, that's not where we're fighting. It always goes after the Jews. And then it comes after the Christians. It must destroy religion.

It must. Because that's the only thing that makes people do what Charlie Kirk did. It's the only thing. What is bigger than politics? What's bigger in your life? How many people are trying to fight, you know, for, you know, Donald Trump or fight against Donald Trump. What's bigger than that? God. But too many people look at rights coming from the government and not from God. And so they've got to fight for their rights there. No, that's not

where your rights belong. I'm hoping it doesn't turn into 9-11 where we all promptly forgot. But I think America is going to wake up very soon. And we are at the last hour. I think America is waking up, and if we wake up in time, we will save freedom for the rest of the world. But we are literally surrounded. I mean, look at Canada. They'd round up those truck drivers again. They'd do it today. Oh, yeah.

They'd have less hesitation probably now. Look at the people gulping down the Tylenol. What is that? What a weird. I want to address that next. I got to talk about that because that's just, that is bizarre. That's bizarre. It shows you how unhinged people.

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This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. And don't forget, rate us on iTunes. Pastor McCoy, let me just, first of all, thank you for the effect you had on Charlie Kirk. I know he was a sponge, but this man lived his life and you were there to teach him so much and to help him on his way. And the memorial service, it is a miracle I have prayed for for 30 years. I've never seen anything like it, and you played a huge role in all of this, and I cannot thank you enough for what you've done. Well, Glenn, I thank you and all your listeners. I mean, America honored Charlie, and you're right that the man was a sponge.

I mean, he would ask me a question about a specific theological issue, and then the next day he'd be an expert on it. and the longer you spend time with him, you get stretch marks on your brain because he just, he was a voracious reader. He was always learning. And, man, and I just, he had such a tender heart for the things of God. And it showed in everything he did. And the world's getting to see that part of him, not the label that the left foot on him. That's all being dismantled and dismissed.

People are seeing him for who he really was. And it's a real awakening. It's exciting. So I'm going to put a picture up on the screen, Rob, and it is a, it's a picture with Charlie and a pastor in South Korea. Right. Can you tell the audience what is, because you were there, what is happening? So the pastor in the picture with Charlie is a man by the name of Pastor Somme, who is ex-Korean special force. He's married with three kids. You know, you can't fake good kids is what Charlie used to say, and his

kids are amazing. His wife is amazing. And he pastors the largest church in Busan, South Korea. He has about 15,000 congregants. He was the only pastor to stay open during COVID. They threatened him. They tried to sue him into oblivion by lawfare. And then when they tried to enforce you know, transgenderism and the whole alphabet soup on the church, he stood in opposition, and millions of people marched in all five major cities in South Korea as a result of this man. And so when this new regime took over, they came right after Pastor Sown. And we were in that picture where you, I'm in the room. I'm watching Charlie standing next to him.

Pastor Sone said it's likely I'll be arrested. And Charlie said to him, if you're arrested, I can't speak on behalf of our government. But myself, if you're arrested, I'm going to call the Secretary of State. And if he answers, I'm going to make sure he hears this. And he said, I'll do everything I can to get attention to this. And Pastor Sons, he said, thank you. And he was so grateful to Charlie. And he was so grateful for him inspiring these youth to stay.

for freedom. And of course, you know, we landed on Monday. My phone blew up and Pastor Sone was in prison. Charlie called me. He said, get me all the information in regards to what he's being charged with and where he's being detained. I got it all to him. I got the videos. And he said, we're going to, we're going to feature it on my program. And as you know, a bullet took our friend's life. And I just committed to in my own heart, I'm going to support Pastor So. So I'm leaving Thursday. I'm flying over to take his pulpit because he's in prison, and I'm going to go there and just contend. And I don't care what they do to me. If the world doesn't wake up that when you start raiding churches and imprisoning pastors, and South Korea thinks that we can lose, America will lose 36,224 U.S. personnel

to stop the Chinese from invading you and set that 38th parallel and you're going to do this, you're going to infringe on religious liberty? No, no. So I'm going over there. Well, I will tell you that, you know, build up Korea was the event that Charlie was attending. And these people are amazing. It's a little T.P. USA over in Korea. And Mina Kim, Mina Kim, who I know, you know, was in my office.

yesterday and I made the same commitment to her that Charlie made and then you love it. And we're going to take care of her security. We are going to watch over her. We're also, I don't know how we're going to do this, but we need to raise a million dollars to just because they lost all sponsors. Everybody just walked away because everybody is afraid of this new regime. This new regime is really bad. They've opened up the borders and all these Chinese illegals are coming into Korea. They're just destroying Korea and turning it over to the Chinese. And it's becoming very, very anti-American, not the people of South Korea, but the government of South Korea. And they are attacking the churches because that's what communists do. They have to destroy the

church. And, you know, there's another story today in Europe that you, there are places now in Europe. You can't get to Bible Gateway. You can't read the Bible. online. It's hate speech. And they are, they are closing down scriptures in in Europe, of all places. This is sweeping the world. It is. And as I was talking to Mina, you know, because I didn't, I wasn't paying attention to what was happening in, in South Korea. And I thought, they're surrounding us. It's a noose. They are surrounding us. And if America doesn't wake up, if the churches don't wake up, That's the only answer. The only answer is God at this point. That's it. And if the churches don't wake up and start remembering their responsibility and people don't start remembering who we actually are as Americans, the whole world plunges into darkness. Absolutely right. You know, Jonathan Mayhew, Eastern Seaboard minister during the War of Independence, when they were all bagging on him saying, you know, you need to submit to King George.

because Romans 13 says, submit to all positions of authority they're appointed by God. And he pointed out, he said, yeah, but they're there for our good, the scripture says. And when they cease to do good, they cease to be the authority. And he coined the phrase that inspired the war of independence. He said, disobedience to tyrants is obedience to God. And we just watched America restore probably another 50 years of liberty because of Charlie Kirk's efforts, inspiring pastors and awakening them. and when they were telling us the church was non-essential in California,

Charlie stood by me when I defied the governor. And when you saw that memorial service on Sunday, now I'm the first guy who came out and I was asked to present the gospel and give a call to Christ, and I'm a minister by trade, Glenn, but now I need to run for office because all the politicians were there were preaching the gospel. That's a direct influence of Charlie. When the church stands, good government happens with good people.

And the largest Christian population in Asia is in Korea. And they have been influenced by these kneeling mouth ministers in America to just be compliant. And now they need to stand her. They're going to lose everything. And that's Mina Kim. In a patriarchal society, this young woman stands, I call her seed biscuits. She's tiny, but she's mighty. Oh, yeah.

And she's standing and inspiring an entire generation. This was my third event. I'm the one who brought it to Charlie, like, this girl's getting it done. And she works so hard. And every, like you said, this is a last thing, but every single one of the sponsors of these companies were threatened. And churches too, they bailed on her.

And they left her hanging in the wind. Well, bless you, Glenn, for doing that. I've been calling everybody I know to raise some money for as well. And you're amazing. Well, if you care to give to this cause, I mean, she's on the hook for a middle. million dollars because they pulled this thing off and then no one wrote the checks. And it's a very big deal. And she looked, she sat, she sat in my office and she said, I'm going back next week and I'm probably going to be arrested. And I said, can we get you amnesty? Is there anything we can do? You know, let me call Washington and see if we, she's like, I can't, my family is there. They'll be persecuted. And she said, and it's my country and I've, I've got to stand. So I'm going back. And I'm, you know, I have been looking for people of courage for a long time, real courage. And Charlie was the biggest and best example.

And they're starting to come out of the woodwork now. People, they have no idea what they started. I mean, I've never understood darkness doesn't understand the light more than I do right now. It just has no idea what it's doing. Yeah. Well, you know, we found out today, or at least I was reading yesterday, that they've, YouTube is reinstated conservative accounts that they blocked. They just blocked Mina's account. They shut her down in Korea.

They took her YouTube and they're trying to remove any ability for her to communicate with the masses. And for anyone who's going to donate thinking you're wasting a million dollars, let me just tell you what your money went to. First of all, you're going to keep a warrior alive that's going to continue this fight who's fearless. And secondly, the money that was already spent inspired at least 5,000 Korean young people. Those are the ones you saw on the news chanting, I am Charlie Kirk. They're ready to go all in. And if you're a believer, you have no idea. Hang on just to say, America, you have no idea.

You thought that was a nice gesture. And it was. It was so heartening to see that. But you have no idea what the. those people risked. Yeah. Yep. That's exactly it.

I mean, one of them is targeted. It's amazing. They are risking going to jail, their family being persecuted, just for standing with a candle saying, I am Charlie Kirk. It's incredible what's happening. And I would say to anyone who has influence over the administration and we're trying to get up the food chain, Charlie would have an easier job of this.

I'm trying. But I would say, I will help you. You tell me what you need. I will help you. all that I can. I would just say, President Trump, you gave Korea 15% tariffs. You know, if they're going to be raiding churches and they're going to be imprisoning pastors and threatening the equivalent of turning point in Korea, I think 15% is way too low.

Let's make them feel the pain. And, you know, we're not going to dictate their government, but we can dictate how they're going to do business with us. Make it hurt. So that's my thought. Pastor, can I call you next week when you're there? And can we? Yes, yes, and yes again.

Okay. Thank you so much for everything. We're in this together, Glenn. You bless me more than you know. Thanks, brother. Thanks, Rob. Bye-bye. Appreciate it.

Okay, bye. That's Charlie Kirk's pastor, who you saw a call for an altar call on Sunday, which was amazing. His sermon was amazing. If you want to help, please go to Mercury 1. I don't even know if they have a fund. Just put it in the general fund. And, you know, you can market Charlie Kirk or I'm sorry, South Korea.

But she needs a million dollars and really bad. I mean, they're going to go after her for not having the money to pay everybody. They're going to go after. It's out of control. This is an ally of ours, completely out of control because they've got now a Marxist government. they have a government like Joe Biden, like all of Europe, they have these people who are just destroying it,

and they are choosing, the government is choosing China over America. The people don't want China. And the only thing that will save this are the churches. Please, if you can, please help them. Please help them. Go to mercury1.org in honor of Charlie Kirk.

You'll pick up his promise. Mercury1.org. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. There was a shooting this morning, a bad one, at the Dallas Ice Field Office. Details are still emerging. The shooter self-inflicted gunshot wound. We don't know the motive yet. But we do know there are multiple injuries and fatalities.

That's at least what Secretary Christie Nome has said. We have Chip Roy on the phone. now candidate for Texas Attorney General. This is in his state where it happened, and I'm sure has more information on this chip. Welcome to the program. Glenn, good to be on. Obviously, prayers for all those affected, particularly the law enforcement community and what they're dealing with as we get the facts. Can you tell me there, the left is coming out now, and it's interesting to me that CNN and MSNBC are sticking with this story, and Fox News is not. it might just be a judgment call, but it also may be that this was a right wing kind of guy,

because is it true that the ones that were killed were not ICE, but illegals? Right now I'm getting intel as fast as I can as you are. I've gotten some insight in broad terms that it appears to have been the detainees who were killed or wounded, but we don't know for sure yet. We want to be very clear that we don't know. So there could be varying motives, right? It could be left wing, it could be right wing. It could just be gang violence.

It could be cartel violence. We have no idea. What we do know is that there continues to be a disrespect for law enforcement and a disrespect for the rule of law. Because no matter what's going on here, if it's a gang, if it's a cartel, if it's a right-wing lunatic or left-wing lunatic, you've got a disrespect. of ice such that they felt that they could go in and shoot up an ice facility. And that is the product

of a lawless Biden administration who didn't give a crap about law enforcement, who crapped all over ice, who crapped all over Border Patrol, who wanted to defund the police across the country, who wanted to stand with criminals over law enforcement, who leave our borders wide open, and freaking George Soros leftists who put dangerous criminals on our streets. So I want to hear any of the backtracking bull crap out of MSNBC and these radical leftists. And who want to endanger us and then dare to try to lecture me on whatever the motives may or may not be of these individuals. You know, I really... They're freeing their climate.

Chip, I really don't care what the motive was. I don't. I'm sick of the motive. I don't care what your motive was. You are breaking down our civilization and our society. This violence must stop. So in saying that, and I know you feel exactly the same way, we, if this continues, to grow at this existential rate that it has been, we are, we're going to have to make moves

and that is going to play into the hands of those who say, see, this is an authoritarian. What can we possibly do to get this kind of violence under control without violating civil rights? Well, you have to respect the rule of law, Glenn. This is not complicated. you stand up in defense of the rule of law. You don't put criminals on your street. You don't let George Soros funded,

Wren collective, left-wing radicals say that we should have cashless bail and let criminals on our street and don't prosecute them. You put people behind bars who should be. You don't have your borders be wide open. You prosecute people and you call out criminals when they are violating the law. And whether you're a left-wing cuck, when you're one of these radicalized transgender folks, whether you're a right wing cook i don't care you're violating the damn law i hate concepts of hate speech

and all these motives or what were you thinking it's all bogus but one thing that it matters and this is what i want to be clear about when you create a climate and a culture that disrespects the rule of law that disrespects sovereignty that undermines western civilization if you are undermining the fact that it is our collective faith in the Lord Almighty and the biblical underpinnings of what built this country from the Declaration of the Constitution all the way through our laws, then you are undermining our safety and security. And that's this real story behind the radical left. I don't know who this shooter was. Again, left-wing, right-way. I don't care. I don't care, Gwain, I'm with you. I do care that the Marxists are undermining our way of life,

breaking down Western civilization, moving us away from God. importing radicals, putting criminals on the streets. That's what we need to be at war against. We need to reclaim the rightful birthright for our kids and grandkids of a safe and secure America that believes in the rule of law, backs up law enforcement. And yes, you protect civil liberties. Damn right, you protect civil liberties. But you don't have any civil liberty to go shoot up ice or to go run drugs or to

move sendal or to be gang members. You don't have a civil right to do that. So, you know, with Antifa now, and I don't know, I think it has to be funded yet, doesn't it? I mean, the president signed an executive order, but what are we going to do with the Antifa stuff? What's happening there? And then also the George Soros, I mean, you start going after their money, and it's going to get much worse before it gets better. And I'm willing to do that, but it is going to get much worse. How do we?

We have no choice. Glenn, I mean, when you go back and look with Christ, you know, where credit is due, what Jack Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy and the people that were trying to break apart the mob, if you were one of the individuals willing to take on violent cartels, look, when I was in the U.S. Attorney's Office, you had to know that if you were taking on the cartels, if you were taking on violent gang members, you were putting yourself in jeopardy because you knew you were going to the heart of the problem. And we've got to recognize that the radical leftists, the Antifa, the organized crime, and by the way, I'm against all organized crime, whatever their political motives are, whatever the profit motives are.

But you've got to recognize it when you see it. In Antifa and Southern Poverty Law Center and all of these organizations, they're a part of a radicalized network that want to undermine what you and I just talked about. So when the president declares Antifa a terrorist organization, he is correct to do so because they are radicalized and undermining freedom, undermining the rule of law. Go take them out and follow the money. Go follow the money to Soros. Go follow the money to the Wren Collective. Go follow the money to SPLC and Antifa. Go follow the money to all of the groups, to 250 organizations that the Center for Immigration Studies outlined that were funneling illegal aliens into our country.

Knowing many of them were affiliated with Trenda and other gang members that were undermining our security. Follow the money and destroy them. When do we start that? When do we start that? Now, now, yesterday. Last week, last year. No, I know that's what I feel, what you feel. I'm asking you, when will it happen?

When will we see this? Well, I believe that the Trump administration, by declaring Antifa terrorist organization, Cash Patel and Pam Bondi, they now know what their directive is. They need to go do it. But Congress needs to get off the damn mark. The reason I sent a letter calling for a special select committee,

identifying the radical left networks, and tying them out and exposing them, is because the American people need to know it. And I want to see leadership. We have 40 members of Congress who have now signed my letter. I want to hear with the speaker, I want to hear with the leaders of the House want to do to go combat this stuff. And I want to be very clear,

because there's going to be some listeners out there, some leftists who are going to say, Shiproy was attacking the lefts. And this shooter ends up being whoever he is or she is. I don't care, Glenn. That's not my point. My point is we're living in a lawless society because of the left. And I want to stop that.

And so should every Republican who's worth their grain of assault. And so should honestly every Democrat that is still an American. The Jimmy Kimmel thing. Did we cross any lines constitutionally or are we close to any constitutional lines with this Jimmy Kimmel thing? Anything that makes you uncomfortable with this? So here's the thing that I want to make sure people understand. when when when bernand car who's an FCC commissioner for those who don't know who by the way i know and full disclosure is a friend yeah i know him and i really i really like him

he's a friend of mine too he's a great guy great man and by the way so are some of my friends are people who have called him out my my great friend senator cruz has done so and some others here's the thing we are always correct to want to say wait a second what power of government is being used and how is it being used that is always a good thing instinct. It is also a good instinct to say that the radical left doesn't get to have a unilateral ability to leverage all of the power of government to go after us. And then the right say, wait a second, you have a guy who went on a massive corporate network funded ABC Disney show and then is then going out on all of these affiliate broadcasters like, you know,

Sinclair and XR, all these organizations. that have to make decisions from a business perspective and not have the FCC commissioner be able to raise the question and the prospect, you know what? If you say crazy crap, those broadcasters may decide they don't want to put your crazy crap on the air. And that has an impact, by the way, in the broadcasting world, when you're talking about licenses,

you know it better than anybody. You could teach me all the ins and outs. But you can't say anything you want over the air. You literally can't. Now, do we want the government policing political speech? No. Do we want the government going in and telling us what we can't say or can't say unless it's something patently obvious like pornography or, say, you know, an affibom on the airwaves?

Generally not. But it is reasonable for the FCC commissioner to say what he basically said, which is when he said you can do this the easy way or the hard way, either back off Disney and don't countenance, that ridiculousness of saying there was a mega-shoe, and putting out false information. Or you're going to deal with the fact that you're going to have licenses, meaning the broadcasters, who are going to say, we don't want to broadcast your crap.

That's the way I interpreted it. So look, that's now a business decision, and you've got Sinclair who's saying no. And Jimmy went on air last night, and he tried to be this kinder and gentler and softer Jimmy. But you know what? You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. And he played a stupid game trying to make this into something

it wasn't by declaring the shooter MAGA. And that kind of stuff needs to be called out. Does that make sense? Yeah, I liked what Brandon Carr said about, and you kind of touched on this, that we're not trying to censor. We're trying to give local control back. Right now, all of the decisions are made in New York or Los Angeles for these networks, and they don't care about these local facilities, local stations that most of them

are small cities. Almost everything in Sinclair is in a small city. There's a few big ones, but not a lot. And, you know, they have a right to say this does not appeal to us. In fact, it's an assault to our community standards. And what he said was we have to get back to community standards. And these local stations should be allowed to hold up their community standards because that's the way they get a license renewed.

Is they're upholding community standards? but I you know I want less regulation not more regulation I certainly don't want a police freedom of speech yeah you and I are alive and I think Brendan said that well and he's an FCC commissioner for a reason

he said it better than I did you need to ensure that local control is what is governing but I just wanted to be clear here that it is important to call out this ridiculous speech and the FCC commissioner can you don't have to police

it. Brendan didn't take an action. He called it out. Had he taken action, we could then decide and we could judge whether the action was appropriate or not, right? He pulled a license or something. He simply called it out and said, you should be aware that there could be consequences to this kind of language. And that's actually important for people to hear in my view. Chip, our thoughts are with you. I hope you are next Attorney General here in the great state of Texas, because as things get tougher, we really need a good attorney general. Well, Glenn, I appreciate that. I'm doing it for a reason. My kids are 16 and 14. I want them to grow up in a safe, secure, and free America. And it's going to take the smartest people we have in this

generation who are willing to stand up and fight and defend, not just America, but Texas. As Texas go, so goes America. Every Texan, we should view through the lens. of if we were the Republic of Texas, what would we do? Do that. We shouldn't stand back and wait for Joe Biden or some future leftists to leave our borders open or to allow George Soros to have criminals on our streets or allow Epic City for Attorney General. And I appreciate it. Thanks, Chip, I appreciate it. I'll tell you, we just bought a house in Florida. And my wife said, I said, we're going to put an American flag up. And she said, I want a Texas flag up. And I said, honey, it's Florida. I don't think they'll take night kindly to that. And she's like,

I don't know. She said, I love Florida. I love what DeSantis has done for Florida. She said, but there is just this attitude in Texas of just don't, don't screw with us. And that has faded somewhat, but it goes back to what he was just saying. We're a republic. We are the only state in the union that used to be a country. We were the Republic of Texas. And so they've always had this attitude of, yeah, yeah, well, we'll leave you any time. I mean, we're our own country. And it's actually very refreshing because it leads to that kind of attitude. We're not in a suicide pack with you.

You want to commit suicide? That's fine. But we're not doing it because what? We signed a paper 150 years ago. No, you're committing suicide. We're not doing it with you. More states need to think that way. There's something else here now.

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