The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program | Guests: Rep. Jim Jordan & Eric Schmitt | 11/2/21

Episode Date: November 2, 2021

Rep. Jim Jordan, author of “Do What You Said You Would Do,” joins to discuss Americans waking up to government control and how they're fighting back. Glenn describes “The Joe Rogan Effect” currently happening in politics, where people are realizing the political line they refuse to cross. Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt joins Glenn to discuss President Biden’s vaccine and immigration mandates. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey, great show for you today on the podcast, the Bill Mar segments, right back to back with our guest, Rand Paul, to talk about these vaccine mandates and Fauci and what the future is. Kaepernick, comparing the NFL to slavery, we actually had a call from somebody

who really thought that he was on the right track on that. and the Joe Rogan effect standing with people you can't believe you're standing with. What is that effect? All on today's podcast. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Jordan from Ohio, the House Ranking Member for the GOP, author of Do What You Said You Would Do. Welcome, Jim. How are you, sir? I'm doing fine, Glenn. Good to be with you.

Great to have you here. And thank you for fighting the good fight. I mean, I watch your clips and I'm like, oh, thank God somebody is saying this. Are we losing as badly as it feels like we're losing? Yeah, I mean, look, the Democrats haven't done anything that's been helpful to the country. Every policy, you know, I said we went from energy independence to the spectacle of the President of the President, the United States begging OPEC to increase production. We went from a secure border to chaos. We went from safe streets to violent crime because they defund the, uh,

The police in every major urban area, we went from respect around the world to the debacle that was the Afghanistan. Exit, no, no, no, and you can go. So, yeah, we're not winning, but I think we might win today. We might win today in Virginia. Yeah. And that'll be a good sign. And I think this, I'd really think this memo from the Attorney General a few weeks ago that became public where he's going after parents of school. I think that's where the last strong Americans are like, we've had it with the attacks on our freedom.

We're going to start pushing back. And if Glenn Yonkin wins tonight, I think that's a huge sign that the country is about to turn things around. Yeah, we are standing, even if he doesn't win tonight, because I don't know about the vote, but even if he doesn't win tonight, people shouldn't get discouraged because I'm seeing them stand up more and more and more. I mean, the courts just reversed the mandate thing in Chicago for the police, which is a blessing for Chicago. they must have been freaked out of their mind with even less police officers on the street. But people are starting to find their voice, which I haven't seen before. Yeah, no, I think you're right.

And frankly, it's because it's been for now over a year of government assaulting people's First Amendment liberties. I told a group the other day, every single right we enjoined the First Amendment has been assaulted. Your right to practice your faith. You're right to petition your government, right to assemble, freedom of press, freedom of speech. And America is beginning to push back. And the good news is freedom is contagious, courage is contagious. One person stands up and three people standing up. And moms at school board meetings stand up and on and on it goes.

And I think you see a reawakening and then re-bracing of freedom starting to happen again in this country. And that is that is a good sign. Do you see the president's bills passing? Are they going to pass? Well, so think about it. Oh, you're breaking up. You're breaking up. Oh, I'm sorry. You're there, Glenn. Yeah, I can hear you now. Yep. So, so four different times, the Speaker House has said, today is the day of the vote. And so she's 0 for four. And twice she's brought the President of the United States to Capitol Hill, and he's over too. So let's, you know, the odds seem to be moving in our direction. So hopefully you don't get the votes for this thing. Hopefully, hopefully it doesn't pass. And it's not just the crazy $3 trillion in spending. It's the policies contained. in the legislation. I know.

It's the Green New Deal stuff. It's the tax increases. I told this, I was speaking, and I said, think about the Democrats' economic plan. The Democrats' economic plan is basically locked down the economy, spend like crazy, pay people not to work, and then for everyone who has been working, oh, we're getting ready to raise your taxes. Such a deal. So bad.

Yeah, let's hope this stuff doesn't pass. You wrote the book, Do What You said you would do. It seems like obvious advice, but how come people don't do that? when they go to Congress? Because it's so easy to get here and just go along. And the whole town is rigged against doing what you told the voters back home, what families and taxpayers and small business owners want you to do. The whole town is rigged against it.

The bureaucracy is against it. The mainstream presses against it. All the Democrats are against it. And frankly, some of the Republicans. That's why I was so impressive that President Trump was able to do. Because all those groups were against him. And yet in spite of all that, he actually did more what he said he would do than any president, certainly in our lifetime, Glenn.

And so it's really, I always tell folks, we make this job way too complicated. What did you tell the voters you were going to do when you ran for the job? If they elect you, go do what you said. Go do what you told them. That's the contract you form, but people get here and don't do it. So I think your listeners will enjoy the read. I really do. We take them behind the scenes and interactions with the president.

I've been fortunate to be involved in every big investigation that's happened here, the IRS, the Benghazi investigation, of course, the impeachment. And so we give them a feel for what it's like behind the. scenes and all those, all those investigations. And a lot about the Freedom Caucus. So one of the things, Jim, that is that I think people are so frustrated on is what do all these investigations end up doing? Nothing.

Nobody ever seems to pay a price. Yeah, well, unless are Republicans. You know, less is Michael Flynn, less than, you know, the bogus investigations, the bogus stuff that was done with the Justice Department. No, you're right. And frankly, it used to be the number wrong question I get. People walk up to me all the time and say, when is someone going to be? to jail and they were mostly back during the Mueller investigation and the whole crazy Trump

Russia, you know, collusion, false narrative. You're right. But all we can do in Congress, I can't put anyone in jail. All I can do is get the facts out to the American people and hope we have a justice department that's actually willing to hold people accountable and not let this double, not let this double standard continue to happen, which is maybe more than anything, Glenn, and I know you get this from your callers and your listeners. I get it from constituents and folks I see all over the country. They hate the double standard. They hate that, you know, lowest learner can do one thing, but we can't. We do the same thing. We're in trouble. Or if Clinton gets away with this and Andy McCabe gets, Garland just gives him all his back pension and pays for his attorney

fees, even though he lied several times to the Inspector General and lied to the FBI. We don't get that kind of a treatment. So it does drive Americans crazy as well. It should, but the only one think we want, we don't want that treatment. I think Americans, and this is what the left miss, Americans are fair. They're decent and fair. They want the rules to apply evenly. Yep. Yep. No, it's human nature. And, you know, from the time you're a kid, you're, you know, someone at school gets two cookies, you get one. And you pick the thing. It's just instinctively, we get fairness, and we want fairness. And it's part of the American system. It's called equal treatment under the law. But when we don't see it happening, it is frustrating.

it is wrong and it shouldn't take place. So what do people do? Let me switch to the virus and the masking and all of this craziness about having a vaccine passport. It feels so incredibly unconstitutional. Yeah, I think it is. I think it is too. Where is this headed? And how come it hasn't been, you know, headed off of the past yet?

Well, I think here's the good sign, and I guess I said this earlier, but, but, you know, Kyrie Irving stands up and says, no, we're not going to go for it. Then you got the Chicago Police Union, and then you got parents at school board meetings, and then you have health care workers in New York. Again, I think you're seeing more and more Americans say, wait a minute, this is not how it works. We know instinctively this is, this is not constitutional. We know it's going to get challenged in court once OSHA comes up with their final ruling and is actually, you know. So I think Americans are pushing back.

I don't think it is constitutional. But that doesn't seem to stop this administration. You know, they just continue to do one stupid thing after another, one unconstitutional move after another. And again, it's why they're at what was 71% of the country thinks Joe Biden has got the country on the wrong track. Oh, yeah. Frankly, I'd like to know who these 29% are. Who thinks we're on the right? Right.

I know. I know. So I think Americans are pushing back. And I do think in the end, freedom has a way of winning out, even if it takes, even if it's, difficult and tough and in a long, long road. I think it wins out. And more and more Americans are doing the right thing and standing up for their first intimate liberties.

You were great when Viola Garcia was being, you know, the letter that was given to the White House and then the Justice Department. Is anything going to come of this with Merrick Garland? Well, we've asked him to rescind it. And the idea that, you know, one day after that hearing two weeks ago in the House Judiciary Committee, when Mayor Garland said the only basis for his memorandum was, in fact, the original letter sent from the School Board Association to the president, and then the School Board Association apologizes the very next day. And I told some group is, this doesn't happen in D.C.

where a major left-wing group apologizes. And it wasn't just your normal apology. They apologized twice in one paragraph. We regret and apologize for the letter. We apologize for the stress. this is cause. So this was a full, you know, full backpedal because they saw how bad this was hurting McColliffe in his race. They saw how wrong this was. Now, Garland has yet to rescind the memo. So what we did yesterday is we've sent a letter to every U.S. attorney in all 94 districts, because remember,

his memorandum said he wanted, he wanted action taken in all the judicial districts around the country. So we sent a letter to them, what are you doing? And never forget the day he sends this memorandum on October 4th, accompanying the memorandum was a press release. and the press release said we're going to get the national security division of the Justice Department involved. But that's the division that deals with domestic terrorism. So this idea that they weren't treating parents as domestic terrorists is just not. I mean, that's what they were doing, as indicated by the fact in your press release accompanying the memorandum on the same day, you're talking about the national security division being involved in the task force to deal with moms and dads at school board meeting. This is frightening what they're doing. And again, this is why parents are saying, no, no, no.

When you start telling parents that, oh, government's smarter and knows better about your kids than you do as moms and dads, moms and dads are going to say, wait a minute, wait a minute, we're not buying that baloney. And they are speaking out, standing up and defending the truth and defending their rights as parents. So I think this is going to backfire on them big time. And I do think in the end he'll rescind it, but he hasn't yet. We're talking to Jim Jordan, the Republican from Ohio and the author of the new book, do what you say. do what you said you'd do. I want to ask you about the freedom of speech caucus that you have going on, the campus free speech caucus.

Yeah. Well, this is, you know how the cancel culture mob and the woke mob, what they're doing to people. And it's most prevalent sometimes, I think, on college campuses. Mary Weiss, when she resigned from the New York Times, and she wasn't even on the right, she was actually center left. When she resigned and talked about the cancel culture mindset that dominates so much, mainstream press and so many places, so many institutions now. She says, if you go against the woke mob, you will face what she termed was the digital thunder dome. And I thought, what an appropriate

term. They will attack you, your family, your employer. Well, on college campuses, they just come after you're not allowed to speak out. You're not allowed to be conservative. And so this is something we're doing with some young, brave students around the country. Kat Kamik, a new member from Florida, a young member. She's doing a great job with this. Dr. Murphy's doing a great job. So we've got this, this caucus. We're also working on legislation to go after big tech, specifically the first bill we want is to get rid of the liability protection they enjoy under the so-called Section 230. So there's a number of things we're trying to do that will push back and stop this attack on, as I said earlier, every right we enjoy under the First Amendment. And of course, of those five rights, we have under the

First Amendment claim, you know the most important one. Even more important than your right to practice your faith is your right to speak. Because if you can't speak, how do you really get to practice your faith. How do you really get to worship the way you're supposed to worship? So the free speech issue is so important. And we're trying to push back on what's happening out there in the culture every way we can. Jim Jordan, the author of the book, Do What You Said You Would Do. It's available everywhere now, wherever books are sold, and you should pick it up. Jim is a leader in the Freedom Caucus. He is also the GOP House Ranking Member. One last question. Have you thought, if you take over the House? Have you thought about asking Donald Trump to be the Speaker of the House?

Yeah, that's been talked about. I mean, that's something that the President would be interested in that. That's sort of something I think that people would entertain. But I think mostly what, most likely what's going to happen, he's going to run for President. Kevin McCarthy is going to be speaker. And we're going to have to focus on doing what we told the voters we're going to do stopping this nonsense from the Biden administration and the Democrats and control of government. But I think President Trump's going to run for president. I've already said I'm for him 100%. I'm for him 100%.

We need him back in there. Again, you know, talk about doing what you said you would do. He said he would cut taxes he did. He said he reduced regulations he did. He said he'd get out of the Iran deal. He did. He said he'd get out of the Paris deal. He did.

He said he put the embassy in Jerusalem. He did. He said he put conservatives on the court. I mean, you can just go down the list. No one's ever done it. When we go to the White House from President Trump, they had the big whiteboard there in the West Wing, and they had every single campaign promise they made. and then they put a checkmark when they got it done.

That's how you're supposed to govern. That's how you're supposed to lead in this great country. And we have way too few people who are willing to actually say one thing at the election day and then get in office and do that very thing. He was willing to do it. And what a contrast to the American people now see between what he did and this Biden guy. Oh, yeah. Congressman Jim Jordan, thank you so much.

Appreciate it. The name of the book is Do What You Said You Do. This is the Best of the Glenn Beck program. Our politics, I don't think have changed. But who we see engaging in similar thinking and truth-telling has changed. Yeah. Who- Ten years ago, you and I would have, we would have never thought of being at the same table because we're on opposite sides, but we're really not.

This is from a podcast with Heather Haying and her husband that are, what I always thought were far, far, left, but they actually are not. The far far left is killing them now. They were professors up in Oregon. And this is what makes strange bedfellows. The adversity that we're going through, it breaks people out of these categories because you have to examine what people are really for. And so there's a, there's this time where we are going to find ourselves.

standing together with people that you wouldn't expect. You know, uh, Nicky Minaj, for a brief moment, we were fighting for the same thing. Now it was a brief moment, but it was a moment. All of a sudden, your ideological opposites

are suddenly your allies. And that's when they stick around. And when you stick around, it's because you're bonded together for a cause, because there's something worth fighting. for together and when it comes to when it comes to Heather Haying it is freedom of speech and diversity of thought and being able to express yourselves that's quintessential there is something

that I'd like you to prepare for and that is the welcome wagon you remember what a welcome wagon was I don't think they have them anymore but a welcome wagon used to be when you'd move into a neighborhood, the neighborhood would all get together and somebody was selected to bring the welcome wagon over and it was food and just kindness from the whole neighborhood. And everybody would get to know each other. Because if you were in the neighborhood, and this is the one I want to really emphasize, if you're in the neighborhood, chances are you're friendly. Now, that's not always true.

There are people in the neighborhood that are bat crap crazy. But we have to look for people that are in the neighborhood. What is the line for Americans? What is the final piece of adversity that will bring us together as the strangest of bedfellows? It may be happening right now. I think we're at the beginning of it. When rappers, listen to this. When rappers, Republicans,

actors, environmentalists, truck drivers, NBA players, liberals, millionaires, moms, pop stars, sports anchors, comedians, and historians are all on the same team. You're starting to have e pluribus unum. They're starting to stop arguing about the things that don't matter and start standing together for the things that do. I have a name for it. I just made it up, but it's the Joe Rogan effect. The Joe Rogan effect describes the countless Americans that have just come up to a line where they're just not going to cross. Regardless of politics, career, background, anything, they're just like, nope, I'm not going there. And Joe Rogan has come up to that line himself with the vaccine mandates, and he's just not going to cross it. If they can figure out a way to force you into carrying papers, into carrying something that lets you enter businesses or lets you do,

this or let businesses open. As soon as you give politicians power and any kind of power that didn't exist previously, historically, they don't relinquish that power. They find new reasons to use it. So he has come up to that line. Remember about a year ago I said, where is your line? What is the line that you won't cross? Many Americans are finding it right now.

Too many are missing the opportunity and it's going to put them too far down the field, I fear, to turn around at some point. But others are finding their line. Dave Chappelle has come up with his line. It's the pressure to apologize for his comedy special, and he said, I will not cross it. He will not summon me. I am not bending to anybody's demands.

Jonathan Isaac of the Orlando Magic reached the line he won't cross with the mandates. At this point in time, it is going to take courage. It is going to take boldness to stand up for what it is that you believe and to say it proudly and to say it. If you listen to this program, you heard, believe it or not, the rap artist, Bryson Gray, tell you on this program that when you've reached your line, it's time to stand up. It's time for us to, like, bowing and succumbing to what's going on in this country. What's great about this is it brings me back to this woman that we, my family and I met in Poland.

I've told you the story a million times that said the righteous didn't suddenly become righteous. They just refuse to go over the cliff with everyone else. They just refuse to go over the cliff. The Rogan effect is when you get to the cliff and you're like, okay, this is madness. I'm not going with you. Then after everybody else has jumped off the cliff, you look around and see, holy cow, I'm standing with you. you didn't jump off the cliff either.

That's what this is. You're starting to see the people that won't jump off the cliff, and sometimes they're surprising. It's people who believe differently, live differently, think differently, dress differently. But the one thing we all have in common is we didn't go over the cliff. And for that reason, we're now a team. And each in our own way, we're trying to persuade others. Don't go over the cliff, but they will.

Some will. Some won't. Not going over the cliff makes you part of this team. And Joe Rogan is not the only one. I've had several of these people on this show. And that's good news. Good news. Because this is the kind of momentum on the side of liberty like we haven't seen in America for quite some time.

It's not a political stake. It's not a party. It's not even people that generally agree on a lot of stuff. It's just that we agree on the things that matter. See, we're always going to argue about things. That's what people forget. You're going to get your feelings hurt. Life isn't fair.

Things don't always work out the way you want them. And if you're being raised in a world and you believe those things not to be true that you're always going to have fair play you're you're never going to be insulted you're never going to have your feelings hurt you are in for a long long life of misery but we were always raised that life isn't fair you're not going to always get the trophy you're not all that special you might be but there's a lot of stuff that makes you ordinary usually people who are extraordinary. It's only in one little area. The rest of them is perfectly ordinary. These people who don't agree with each other are starting to stand together. And that is Epleribusunum. From many,

one. Well, what brought us together in the first place? The idea that everybody's the same, that you have an equal shot, that God built us, with these rights that nobody can take away and that it's up to you to take those things that you have and make the best of them. And sometimes people are going to win. And sometimes people are going to win unfairly. But you just keep going.

And a government should protect those people who are trying to do the right thing and living by those few rights and responsibilities. That's our unum that parents should. have the right to say to the teachers, now you're not teaching that to my child, no. No, you might teach us to other children, but not my child.

And I have a right to say what I believe with my child. It's my child, not the governments, not the publics, not a part of the collective. He or she is mine. That's worth standing up for. That's worth feeling alone for. That's worth fighting for. people have died for less than that.

The point is here, you're not alone. And you're not standing there with a bunch of people who all voted for Trump or who all like the flavor of chocolate for their ice cream. You're standing around probably the most diverse group of people in both color, background, and philosophy. You are probably in the most diverse group in all of America today if you found your line and you just won't cross it. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Eric Schmidt is running for U.S. Senate. He is also the Missouri Attorney General. I'd love to have you in the U.S. Senate, but where does that leave Missouri?

you have somebody good to replace you as the Attorney General? There'll be a long line of people won that job, I'm sure. You were here in Texas just a couple of weeks ago, and you were here because you were supporting a lawsuit against the Biden administration of Texas. Tell me about that lawsuit first on the border. Yeah, so we went to El Paso with the Texas Attorney General, Ken Paxson, and announced our lawsuit for Joe Biden to finish the wall. The fact is, $3.8 billion was appropriate.

by Congress. The president has no authority to not spend that money on the border wall. Under the take care clause of the Constitution, he swears an oath to uphold the Constitution and faithfully execute the laws of the country. So there's a constitutional argument, to be sure. There's also an administrative law argument that basically this is arbitrary and capricious their decision not to do it because when the Trump administration moved forward with that wall. They gave a lot of great evidence in the record as to why walls are important. And traveling with those Border Patrol agents, it's amazing, Glenn. You go from no wall to some wall to a haphazard wall to a permanent wall to no wall. All the while, there are materials 20 feet away

for a 30 foot high permanent wall. And Missouri's interest in this is just like it was with the Remain in Mexico lawsuit that we filed with Texas that we won at the Supreme Court and a six to three decision. Now amazingly, we have to go back to court to enforce that. Jesus. It's amazing. This is the really bad thing about this administration. Yeah. Usually the administration, I mean, first of all, the president's job, the veto is supposed to be for something he thinks is unconstitutional, not something he doesn't like, something that is unconstitutional. Instead, he is supporting things that they say are unconstitutional, but let's give it a whirl. Let's see what the Supreme Court

says. But then when they come back and say it's unconstitutional, they don't change their behavior. Right. We've got to go back in court now and enforce that. And it is unprecedented. And it goes to show you, I think, how far the left is willing to go. And they are playing

for keeps. Being not have to look very far in the Senate right now. You're a senator or two away from adding states to the union, packing the Supreme Court, federalizing our elections. I mean, they mean business. Yeah, they do. And so that's why I think it's very important for the attorneys general across the country to step up in our system of federalism, which, by the way, the founders knew very well human nature and they devised a system of government that spread out power, it diffused it to no one branch, no one person ever got too powerful. They're supposed to jealously guard it. And the states play an important role in that too, right? The states created the federal government, a government of limited powers. By the way, one of those limited powers is securing the border.

And so it's up to the states now to push back and say, you need to do your job. You have the money, $3.8 billion to finish this border wall. Go do it. There is a policy in place that can protect our southern border, the remaining Mexico policy that we want in the Supreme Court. Now go implement that. And by the way, all that, Glenn, is meant to protect individual liberty, right? It diffuses power so individuals can live their lives.

Correct. We're talking to Eric Schmidt. He's the Missouri Attorney General. The problem is that everything at the federal level, all of the checks and balances seemingly have broken down. And so it's now on the states. It's on you guys in particular, the attorney generals. I had somebody one of my very, very cynical producers who wasn't so cynical, you know, just a few years ago, say, what good do these attorney generals do?

I mean, it's a press conference and then nothing has. happens. Well, unfortunately, the courts move a little bit slower, slower than we'd like to. But I think we're starting to see those results. And so the truth is, I mean, he's been in office for less than 300 days. Amazingly, it feels like a lot longer than that. But it does feel our culture in our country is slipping away. And I think it is up to the AGs right now to push back. We're getting some wins. The federal leasing are the drilling on federal lands. We won that lawsuit. We've got the Keystone XL Pipelite in the mix. Missouri is. Wait, wait, wait, wait. What does that mean? Meaning that Biden, on day one, there are two, I think, two major policy priorities for him on day one, energy and immigration.

So what he did was is he came in on day one and tried to undo everything, all the successes that President Trump had, right? Cancel the Keystone Exel pipeline. He created a working group called, well, to analyze what the quote unquote social cost of greenhouse gases is. Now here's, this is like no Stradamus, not Newton, right? They predict into the future. John Kerry the climate czar leads this group. I'm not making this up. Leads this group predict hundreds of years into the future what migration patterns and

warfares look like. And they attribute all of that cost to greenhouse gases, right? Pull it back into real time, present day value and then charge these agencies to go tax and regulate agriculture, manufacturing. And we've got a lawsuit to fight that too. And by the way, that's going to seep into all these regulatory actions anyway. You see some of this rhetoric that's being spouted off by Biden over in Europe right now as they apply to fly in their private jets there and have their cars idling for them. This is the next round of executive actions and continual emergency orders like we're seeing with the vaccine.

He said yesterday that he is issuing an emergency order on climate change. And I was just having this debate with somebody just the other day about what he, it doesn't stop with. the COVID-19, it doesn't stop. If you allow them this amount of play, the next thing that is a health hazard is climate change and gun control. Absolutely. And you've got J.B. Pritzker in our neighboring state already rattling that saber a little bit, talking about a public health crisis and emergency orders.

This stuff, that's why. So in Missouri, I have been very aggressive, not just pushing back against the federal government an overreach. But also these local petty tyrants, right? In St. Louis County, the county, it's the largest county. It's a million people. The county executive has tried to, on his own, issue a mask order. We fought him in court and won to stop the forced masking of a million people, right? This is a much larger debate. This is about who we are. This is about who we've been and who we're going to be. We've been the freest country in the history of the world. It's been an exception. That's when we talk about American exceptionalism, right? Our founders,

believed that everybody has a right to pursue their dreams, right, and that they knew human nature and that tyrants throughout the course of human history and even today try to accumulate and aggregate and exert power and control. And we're living it and we've got to fight back on every front. I said on a video that went viral that I don't want to live in some futuristic biomedical dystopian medical state. I don't. And so my job right now is to fight back on every front with everything I've got to protect individual rights and liberty. So let's talk about what you're doing with the mandates because we got a call from some 3M plant workers in your state. And they're like, look, I mean, we're going to lose our job.

And where are we going to work? Where are we going to work if these mandates happen? So what are the states doing? What are you doing to stop this? So there's two fronts here. The first one opened up last week. week. Missouri led a 10-state coalition against the federal contractor mandate, vaccine mandate, which is an enormous power grab by the federal government and could, according to the Department

of Labor, affect about 25 percent of workers who have some connection to a federal contract, even though they're not working on anything related to any federal dollars. But again, this is about you will obey. You can work today. You can't work today. You're fired. Do what we say put the mask on take them take the vaccine and again I think it fits into a much larger picture right and fight and so so we're fighting Missouri's leading on that we anticipate the employer mandate coming in a matter of days so you can't file anything for like against 3M or against you know all companies doing this until there's something yeah so once that order is actually issued for the employer mandate right once that order is issued then we have the

to sue. Right now what he's doing, Joe Biden's doing is he said this week's month, over a month ago. Yeah. We're going to do it. And I think he's applying a lot of pressure to these entities before he actually issues. And you don't have a right to stop. Correct. But he's trying to pressure these businesses into doing it, which is cynical at best. And again, about power and control. And I think they're also waiting because they know they're going to lose. It could be that they're waiting because this Virginia race to, who knows, I mean, all these things are incredibly unpopular. People see it for what it is, which is the heavy hand of government forcing people to do things that in their own good conscience might not do.

I think people ought to be able to make these decisions. It's like the forced masking of five-year-olds. I know. And now the vaccination of five-year-olds. Yeah, parents can make these decisions. And by the way, the left has dreamed of this scenario for a long time, right, to have the state into our lives in every conceivable way. and continue to get bigger and bigger. And I think that as conservative,

the maximum amount of space between the state and the individual so they can pursue their dreams, make their choices, is the right place for us to be, and we have to fight for it. It's never been in more danger than it is right now. There's no doubt about it. We're talking to Eric Schmidt. He is the Missouri Attorney General and the candidate for the U.S. Senate.

More with him. I want to get into the details of this Google lawsuit that really kind of came out yesterday that are stunning. If those things are true, it's stunning what Google is actually doing. All right, so we're talking to Eric Schmidt, the Missouri Attorney General and U.S. Senate candidate. I want to talk to you a little bit about the Google lawsuit. By the way, not to be confused with the Eric Schmidt from Google.

Yeah, I know, right. I know, I know. The lawsuit, we've heard talking. about it for a for a while that it was coming and yesterday is least the first time I saw it was it just was it just filed no it's been filed I think more details are starting to come out about the allegations for sure so I'm I'm looking at it it's like a hundred and seventy pages and the the things they're doing the antitrust things that they appear to be doing the way they are

just manipulating lying and and controlling of so much online is terrifying. It is. And I think this is the, you know, the tyranny of big tech is a real thing. And in my view, if you want to take a step back, originally, you know,

when the internet was, first came into the public consciousness, it was sort of this big IBM machine, right? This supercomputer somewhere. Which certainly connoted, the connotations were that it was centralized. Right.

Then you see in the 90s this kind of democratization, right, which is kind of my view of what the Internet should be. People have access to information. And people can freely communicate. It is a platform. And by the way, that's when those Section 230 protections came into play in 1996. Because, hey, if you're just going to be a platform for people to put their ideas out,

we're not going to hold you accountable like a publisher, right? Right. Right. Now things have changed. Now we see the centralization again by a few companies that control a massive, more information that the world has ever had at its fingertips in the history of mankind. 90% of the searches are controlled by Google. And if you think about that, that is immense power. And when that power is utilized in a way that Google is utilizing it, it's very scary. Yeah, they're they're not only violating privacy. They're colluding. with Facebook to thwart investigations into them from the federal government, if I'm not mistaken. And they are telling people that are doing business with them that you're going to get this data and et cetera, but they're not giving that data to people. They're consuming all that data, correct? And the algorithms, if you are paying to be, you know, advertised, on Google.

And you're on, and you, maybe you're not a favored industry or company. And you end up on page 12, not page one. It's over, right? Right. What is it? Nobody gets to see behind the curtain with, you know, in the land of box here. I don't think I've made it past three. And that's what I was really looking for something.

I'm sure. I've seen search results for me too. I'm sure that I end up on, you know, the bad stories are at the front of the line. Yeah, yeah. But, but yeah, this, the, the, the, the antitrust, essentially, if you wanted to boil it down into layman's terms is that they have created an anti-competitive atmosphere, right, by using their power, particularly with the deals that they have with Apple, with Verizon, or not Verizon, but Microsoft.

Microsoft. Basically be the preferred search engine, right? And they will do anything to maintain the position at the top of the heap and the practices that they're employing to do that are anti-competitive and violate antitrust laws. So for me, again, that's Google. But I think as it relates to big tech, this is one of the most important issues that not a lot of people are talking about, but that think about it. We've got supercomputers in our hands. There's more power on these iPhones than sent people to the moon in the late 1960s, right?

And if you've got people who, by the way, have made a decision, Google made a decision to work with the Chinese military with AI, machine learning. And won't with us. but we're woke enough, I guess, not to do it with the United States of America. So there's a lot on the line here. So we're committed to moving this lawsuit forward. And it's a powerful tool. Now, these things, antitrust cases take a long time. But the discovery that could come from all of this, I think, would be telling to.

And I think Google's afraid of that. It is, it's quite a read. You should read it. It's, again, about 170 pages. But how many states are involved in this? Well, I think all. And all, there's a couple of different lawsuits. It's pretty bipartisan. Now, interestingly, different states come at this for different reasons. Uh-huh. You know, it's, it's really an interesting kind of when the political spectrum looks more like a circle than linear. I think that's kind of what you got here. Yeah. So. One last thing. They're putting through, I've got one minute, they're putting through a new FCC commissioner. And we're very concerned about freedom of speech, especially on public airwaves. You are. You. are one of the the attorney generals that will stand for broadcasters absolutely and like we did by the way

for second amendment rights and that that nominee got spiked right we were the we pushed back against merrick garland for sick and the DOJ yep and uh the FBI on parents so we'll be on that front line again nothing could be more important than the free expression ideas it's the it's the pressure release valve for our republic eric Schmidt and important as he said to point out not the one from Google. He's the Missouri Attorney General and running for U.S. Senate. You can find his information at SchmidtforS.net.com. That's SchmidtforSennet.com. Eric, thank you so much for all you do. Great to be with you. God bless. We'll say, in the phone, all the world can be a guy of the finance.

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