The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Riley Gaines & Sabo | 8/8/23

Episode Date: August 8, 2023

Glenn and Stu react to the Anheuser-Busch heir who made things worse for the company. Women’s rights activist Riley Gaines joins to discuss the bill that Texas Governor Greg Abbott signed into law t...hat bans biological men from competing in women’s sports. Political guerrilla street artist Sabo joins to discuss the recent anti-woke art he posted at the American Airlines Center. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:16 We have quite an adventure today as we visit, you'll understand this by the end of the program, the island of Manjaro. But also, we talk
Starting point is 00:00:27 about an adventurous experience of an interview that Billy Bush went on. Now, not the Billy Bush, who was on, like, Access Hollywood or whatever and then got canceled back in the day. No, another one, an Anheiser-Busch air, who went on TMZ for some reason and talked about the Dylan Mulvaney experience.
Starting point is 00:00:46 It's quite an adventure. We also talked about the Riley Gaines situation. She was assaulted. Spat upon, I guess the way you're supposed to say that, as she was trying to protect women's sports, we talked to her. Conservative street artist Sabo joins the show as well. He has a, he did another campaign here in Dallas and like nobody's doing stuff like Sabo is. That's, it really is incredible.
Starting point is 00:01:15 And he is shaking things up. We go through what his latest experience was going after American Airlines and some of the woke policies here in America today. That's all available now. by the way, subscribe to this podcast if you would. Also, Stu Does America, which is available five days week for your listening pleasure, including tonight. We're back on the air tonight. So check that out. I apparently had some legal troubles that Glenn may have talked about on the air while I was gone.
Starting point is 00:01:42 I'm going to have to get all the details on that later on. But for now, enjoy the podcast. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. I don't know. Have you been following the air to the Anheuser-Busch fortune? Have you seen this? A little bit, yeah. This is an interesting strategy going on here.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Yeah, it is. We're going to play a recording of it as later on in the program. And I just want to wet your appetite. It is the worst self-inflicted industrial accident I have ever seen in my life. It is as if the Anheiser-Busch guy is standing there. in front of a table saw and he's asked by TMZ one question and he's like well you know hang on and he just flips the switch for the table saw and as he starts to answer he just puts himself face down right directly into the saw it is a bloodbath an absolute i don't think it's going to
Starting point is 00:02:58 help anheiser bush that much i really don't really don't no i think when you go when you go on and Halfway through he's like you know I thought we were here to talk about my book Uh huh uh huh did you really think you were going to get on to television any television show and talk about your book when they know the table saw is right there in front of you No no no yeah it's ugly i heard they had another 26 percent year over year drop and you know you people keep asking, like, how are you going to turn this around? When is this going to stop? And a lot of people are saying, well, you know, it's never going to stop, which is an understandable thought. But in reality, eventually they'll get to a point where they're
Starting point is 00:03:49 comparing themselves to the period of time that is after the drop. So it'll be year over year against when it's already fallen off 26%. And then it'll start coming down maybe. I mean, that's their salvation is these numbers don't look so bad after a year. year of torture. That's what I wanted to know. What is the one-year anniversary? Because every month, year-over-year, every month they're down another 28%. And if you don't know how year-over-year works, you're kind of like, how many times does 25% go into 100? They're like, I was looking to be down 10,000 percent. How many months before we get to the one-year anniversary? So we're going to start comparing it to the downtime.
Starting point is 00:04:37 And this shows the incompetence of Van Heiser Bush because the actual date of this was April 1st and they could have and should have just said April fools. We're just kidding with the Dilipolpani thing.
Starting point is 00:04:53 That was a joke. Come on, you guys know us. Remember we make the funny commercials? April fools. Wait a minute. Hang on just a second. They had that out and they didn't use it. He came out on April 1st?
Starting point is 00:05:06 That was, yeah, that's the date that it was at least, I think they may have obviously made it in advance of that and maybe sent it in advance. Maybe when she posted the video, it was April 1st, or he posted, sorry, I don't know. Did you just call him her? I know. Did you just call her, she? I'm looking at a picture here. It certainly doesn't look like a dude, but whatever. The point is, you know, April 1st is the day.
Starting point is 00:05:28 So that's what they should have done. That would have been the ultimate get out of jail free car. Now, they still would have got a left-wing protest. We thought, Dylan, you thought we would put Dylan. Come on. We're April 1st. We're like known for the was-zap guys. Like, that's, this is our humor.
Starting point is 00:05:50 That's hilarious. Come on. And you know what? They probably, their sales would have gone up 10%. But they didn't attempt that one, unfortunately. Bud. Why? Sir.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Zah! That's up. Like we don't. Hey, I'm in Chikkim. That's me. I'm a woman. That all fits. This is one of the heirs to Anheuser-Busch, the fortune. And he's just written a new book. And he decides, hi, you know what I'll do? I'll go on TMZ. Because I bet they're not going to ask me a single question that's controversial. Listen to the buzzsaw. Go ahead. You must have strong opinions about the... Dylan Mulvaney campaign. Yeah, Dylan Mulvaney campaign. I think my family... Stop.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Stop. This is where he should have said, no, I really want to just talk about my book. Okay? That's... And then they would have said, well, we got to get at least one answer. No, I'm here to talk about my book.
Starting point is 00:07:01 I think he should have said, Hey, actually, I live on the side of a mountain and I have a bunch of green technology that doesn't work. I can't hear you anymore. I'm sorry, we have to cut this short. And by the way, April Fool's. I would have thrown everything at it to stay out of these questions. Power of them. Okay, so listen, he decides to answer.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Now listen to this. I think my family, my ancestors would have rolling over in their grave. They were very patriotic. They loved this country and what it stood for. They believed that transgender gays, that sort of thing, was all a very personal issue. They loved this country because it is a free country and people are allowed to do what they want. But it was never meant to be on a beer can and never meant to be pushing people's faces. The people, for the majority, who drink beer, care about wholesome things,
Starting point is 00:08:00 care about America and believe that certain things in life should be kept private. And transgenderism is one of them. Why? Okay. Oh, gosh. There you goes.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Now, I mean, so far, that answer isn't terrible, right? Like, that is... Okay, all right. Okay, hang on. Now, forget the fact that you're on TMZ, right? And you should know what direction these questions are coming from.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Like, if he gave that to a conservative host, like the conservative, I think, that's kind of what we want at a bud light, right? Just keep it out of your frigging beer stuff. Like, just shut up about this stuff. That's not what he said. That's not what he said. He should have said, no, he should have said, look, beer is beer. It's not political.
Starting point is 00:08:52 And this isn't about transgenderism. This is about shoving everything in everyone's face and making it political to where you cannot have a differing opinion. I don't really, I don't really care how you live your life. Why do, would you want me, you know, having, you know, the, you know, a straight couple humping on your, on your beer can? No, leave it alone. Just leave it a lot.
Starting point is 00:09:19 I just want a nice beer, okay? I want the Clyde Stales. I want rah, raw, we're not that bad of a place. I don't want any political messages with my beef. You're not even looking for like, hey, it's a great place. It's like, hey, we're not that bad of a place. That's the only thing we want to go. I've lowered my standards.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Yeah. Oh, no, I've lowered my standards. You know, America. Wait, but how? Okay, I'll take it. Now, I know this is about to get worse, but like, how is his answer so far really, like, diverge from the direction you were going in? Okay. Okay, because he said a couple of things.
Starting point is 00:09:59 He said transgender gay. Okay, well, you better understand Mr. Turning on the buzzsaw. He flubbed that. Okay. Yeah, flubbed that one a little bit. A little bit. And he set himself up to say being transgender is un-American.
Starting point is 00:10:20 He's like, you know, my relatives, they loved America. Not this transgender stuff. Right. But he did set himself up for that. He made some ground. He made himself, it made it okay. But he also said, you got to keep things quiet. Well, do you?
Starting point is 00:10:42 See, this is, I don't want to push you in the closet. I don't care. Just don't force me to claim you're a good looking woman when you're a dude. Okay. No, you can be a dude and address, and that's fine. And you could go, I am beautiful and I am a woman. That's great. But I have the right to go, no, he's not.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I mean, the execution of this point was suboptimal, as we might say. But what I think, you haven't. No, but I'm just saying, like, his point so far, I think you could, you know, the left could say, oh, well, he's talking about transgender should stay in the closet. But he's clearly not actually saying that. He's saying like, look, it's not something to put on a beer can. I'm saying, again, so far, I've not heard this whole clip. Maybe he does say that.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Yeah. I was with you, Stu. I was with you before I heard the whole clip. I was like, okay, it's not good. No. But. And then he keeps talking. Listen.
Starting point is 00:11:47 He kept private because it's, if I'm gay and he's gay, should we keep that private? But, you know, you don't have to keep it private, but I don't think you should advertise it on a beer can. Do you? I mean, if I like... We just looked at Bud Light Rainbow Cans. I mean, the company advertised on there and that seemed to be okay. Yep, yep. Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Why do you think, then, you guys, that people are turning away and boycotting Bud Light now? Prejudice. Prejudice? You believe it's prejudice? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Oh, absolutely. it's prejudice. I mean, the same argument,
Starting point is 00:12:26 could these guys, honestly, could you find two dumber people to be conducting this interview? No. It's TMZ. It's like, why would you go on? I mean, that's the first step here. Why would you go on TMZ? What possible per? What are you going to sell? Eight books? I mean, when's the last time someone who read TMZ read a book?
Starting point is 00:12:48 1995? There is no, look at the Ben Diagre. of TMZ viewers and book readers. They do not come together at any point. Stu, Stu. See the horse laying there in the field. Please put your club away for a second. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:07 All right. Go ahead. Yeah. Absolutely. Oh, absolutely. It's prejudice. I mean, the same argument could have been made. Look, I remember my dad telling me stories that there were bars in L.A.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Come on. They used to have signs that said no dogs, no Jews. So there's been a history of prejudice in the country. People get over certain things. It's happened to Jews. It's happened to black people. It's happened to gay people. And it's happening to transgender people.
Starting point is 00:13:36 To me, it is absolutely precious. But Asians. Well, I just think, you know, I think prejudice against Jews or against black people, those kinds of things is a totally different deal than advertising. I'm sorry, my dog is. His dog's trying to stop it. His dog is trying to stop the interview. You pay me.
Starting point is 00:14:01 You bought me to protect you. Come out of the room. Come out of the room. They're going to kill you. Come out of the room. Dog just starts jumping on him in the middle of the interview. Doing everything that I want to do. Like, I want to jump in there and just pull them off.
Starting point is 00:14:21 camera and the dog is attempting the same thing. Even the dog knows you don't do this interview. All right, go ahead. That makes three of us. Excuse me, one second. Let me move him out of thought. Sorry about that, guys. You still there?
Starting point is 00:14:39 Yeah. Okay. I just happen to think that your sexual preference is meant to stay private. I just don't think, you know, I think it's not when you, when you talk about, racism, racism. But I gotta stop you for a second. Being a transgender person is not a sexual preference. That's different from a sexual preference.
Starting point is 00:15:03 It's an identity. This is an identity. That's a fact. What you're saying is that the majority of those identify and don't want it in their face. That's prejudice. That's what prejudice is. Mental illness. But that's what prejudice is.
Starting point is 00:15:19 It's intolerance. And it's saying, I will turn my back on your beer if it's supported by somebody I don't like. I mean, how much it's probably? I thought we were going to talk about my book, Charles. I did too. I mean, but here we are talking about the politics of transgenderism. You open the door, Billy. He opened the door.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Oh, that was his fault. Yeah. Politics. Politics. He got it right. I mean, he hasn't stepped into the buzzsaw yet. But he at least got it right there and didn't. realize it.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Politics is what it's all about. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We're so glad that you have joined us today. We've got, we have Riley Gaines joining us now. Is she on the phone yet? She is a 12-time NCAA, All-American Swimmer, Independent Women's Forum, spokesperson.
Starting point is 00:16:16 She was in Texas. New legislation to protect women in college sports from competing against males. That's how much of a bigot she is. Riley, welcome to the program. How are you? I'm doing great. Thank you so much for having me on. Yeah, you're welcome. So I heard you were spat upon yesterday. Is that true? I mean, are we even surprised anymore?
Starting point is 00:16:43 There was, you know, the protesters spinning. They were throwing drinks and bottles. they were using the most profane language to third graders who were there supporting the chance and the opportunity to be able to compete at the level that I was fortunate enough to be able to compete at. At third graders who had already dealt with this at their schools in Texas competing against boys. And so I think that says a lot about the movement. I think that says a lot about really where we are as a nation. When you see these grown adults really throwing temper tantrums like little babies, entitled babies. So Oklahoma Governor, Kevin Stitt, he led the way. He signed the Women's Bill of Rights by executive order.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Then Texas did it, and you were with the governor yesterday. What exactly does this bill do? The bill of class is a law defined sex-based terms, such as male and female, and woman and man and girl and boy and mother and father. I mean, it's crazy that we need this common sense law. Nearly 250 years that we've been established as a country. And, of course, human civilization has been around a lot longer than that. We've never struggled to understand what man and woman is.
Starting point is 00:18:07 But we've reached a point where, unfortunately, we are. And so that's all this bill does. It doesn't prevent laws from being made. as it pertains to transgender individuals. It doesn't create any new laws. It just defines the word woman where it already exists in law. So take, for example, the Fairness in Women's Sports Act. That's great, but what good is it if we can't agree on the definition of a woman?
Starting point is 00:18:32 That's what the Women's Bill of Rights does. Well, let me tell you something, Riley. As a man who's now a woman, I am so glad that I can break the glass ceiling and take all of the awards. from you because I'm clearly stronger as a woman. This is really nuts. And what I think is the craziest about it is the people who are saying they are protecting women are not protecting women.
Starting point is 00:19:03 They're protecting men who are claiming that they're women and violating the rights of actual women. It's the patriarchy. Right? I mean, didn't they preach down your throat about this? Think of the original Me Too movement. I mean, oh my goodness, they would roll over in their grave the people who once fought for this to know what's happening now. But you're exactly right.
Starting point is 00:19:26 We've seen this fall almost entirely on party lines. Especially, I mean, look at what the U.S. House of Representatives did as it pertained to the Protection for Women and Girls Sports Act put forward by Greg Subey. It did fall entirely on party lines. All 203, every single one of them, Democrat representatives in the House. voted in opposition of protecting women and girls, all of them. And these are mothers and fathers of young daughters, of young sons, who play in sports certainly. And so it's just, it's confusing, right?
Starting point is 00:20:00 Like, doesn't it just make you scratch your head? Like, how did we get here? But really, it feels like betrayal. So, Riley, why do you, because I urge people to ask their friends who are suddenly finding themselves going, that is not only a woman. That is the most beautiful woman I've ever seen. And if you don't say that, I can't be your friend anymore.
Starting point is 00:20:23 And they should have, they should compete in women's sports. They should be showering in our, you know, high school locker rooms, all of this stuff. 10 years ago, that didn't happen. 10 years ago, you would not have had 203 Democrats stand up and do that. What new information do you think? think they think they got that is making them march in lockstep. My conclusion of why I think people are taking this approach. We very much live in a society, and we have the media ultimately to blame along with other
Starting point is 00:21:05 things, but we very much live in a society where you're either an oppressor or you're oppressed, and people shiver at the thought of being an oppressor. And you know what qualifies you to be an oppressor? being white, especially a white man. Oh my gosh, if you're a white man, forget it. Being a Christian. That's why I'm a woman and a black woman. Hey, you can be whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:21:30 But being those things are meant you, and it makes you an oppressor, and people are terrified of that thought, and they're scared they're going to end up on the wrong side of history. But let me tell you what. Asking a young girl to undress in front of a grown, fully intact man, that puts you on the wrong side. of history. And if you even try to combat that, to disagree,
Starting point is 00:21:52 it says a whole lot about you and what you think about girls, what you think about women and truthfully, what you think about the truth. So I could go on. I've got theories and theories, but you get it. Give me a reaction to these headlines. Headline number one, when it comes to trans sports bands,
Starting point is 00:22:14 don't be fooled by the language of protection? Well, I mean, the way they even, look, this woman's bill of rights, they label it as anti-trans. It doesn't mention the word transgender anywhere in the women's bill of rights. Nowhere in the women's bill of rights is to talk about being transgender. But that's what this is. Any attempt to protect women is immediately an attack on trans.
Starting point is 00:22:42 And what does that tell you? What does that tell you when protecting women has become this attack? it means they want to erase us. It's not anti-trans. We're not banning athletes from competing anyone, regardless of your sexual orientation or your gender identity or your race or what sports you play. Everybody should play sports. Of course everyone should.
Starting point is 00:23:01 I encourage everyone to play sports. But play where it's fair and where's safe. And that's how it aligns with your biological sex, not with your gender identity. Everyone should play sports. I'll be the first to put it on the record and say it. So if you really believe you're a woman and you're born a man and you were misgendered by the doctor in society.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Where are you supposed to play with the men, with the ladies? Aren't you kind of nowhere? Are you referring to intersex individuals? Yeah, transgender individuals that are saying, you know, I can't play with the men because I'm not a man. I identify as a woman. And the women now won't let me play in their sports. But they are male. To deny that is to deny reality, is to deny biological truth.
Starting point is 00:23:57 They are a male. If you have a Y chromosome and you've gone through male puberty, despite if you've gone through male puberty, now if you have a Y chromosome, you are a male. Therefore, you should compete with the men. That's why any category in sport is made. It's not to segregate anymore. And we do it for this foundational sense of fairness.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Think about boxing, right? We have the heavy weights and we have the feather weights, and we have the classifications in between. But we're not putting the heavy weights in the heavyweight category because we're fat-shaming them. That's silly. We're doing it because it would be unfair if you had a man who's 280 pounds competing against fighting a guy who's 180, right?
Starting point is 00:24:39 I mean, that would be crazy. And we all know the outcome. It's the same thing in regards to this whole debate. And think of Lance Armstrong. What did we call it when he took testosterone and beat everyone? We called it cheating. And that's what this is as well. The best of the Glenn Beck program.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Cable, my man. How are you? I am very good. I love what you did to the American Airlines Arena. I am so sick of the woke policies that are coming through these airlines especially. And let me just read some of the, some of the text. You describe the picture. It says, welcome to the woke American Airlines.
Starting point is 00:25:20 My pronouns are he, she, it lost baggage. Who said AI doesn't work with that image. So this image is, I can't tell. Woman, man, light blue suit. Looks almost like a military uniform, but it's American Airlines and pink hair. I don't know. I just don't want whatever that thing is flying my plane. Then you have a poster that looks like a poster for the real fight.
Starting point is 00:26:02 It says, gender inclusive. Jake Paul versus Nate Diaz. He, him versus he him, asterisk. American Airlines Center policy is gender inclusive. Welcome to the woke American Airlines. How was the response to this from American Airlines in the American Airlines Arena? You know, I haven't heard directly. Thank God.
Starting point is 00:26:27 I'm just lucky I'm not in a jail cell. I could say the second I put up the first poster, security was pretty much all on me. I had like five instances where police were driving past watching what I was doing. So I didn't know if I was going to have a heart attack or a heart attack. an aneurysm. So the response that I had was spear. So how do you get away with this? Honestly, you do you do this all over California. I, by the way, I highly recommend that you buy his art. I think he is going to be remembered. Sorry to talk about you like you're not here. But I think Sabo is going to be remembered as one of the most important artists of our day.
Starting point is 00:27:12 he doesn't get any press really except negative because he is on the freedom side and his stuff is very very powerful and i think an investment so go to unsavory agents dot com that's still your address isn't it unsavoryagents.com okay so how do you get away with this saybo i have no idea you know um when that first police officer drove by and stopped. I had no, I was in such fear because I had no idea what I was going to tell him. And when he left, my assistant said, I think you're invisible. And so I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:27:59 I think someone's just smiling on you. In Texas, they may have agreed with you. One of my favorites is kind of a flashback to the old airplane. movies and it says American Airlines if you like old comedies then you'll love our corporate policies get woke with American Airlines where diversity comes before safety we have a first class business class and woke class where your middle seat can identify as a window seat yeah so great now this was brought on by their idea that they're going to have diversity in the cockpit. Is that what brought this on? Yes. And when I hear
Starting point is 00:28:50 something like that, all I can think of is 300 people's lives in the hands of someone who got hired as a token or a diversity hire. And we see how diversity hires work out with Kamala Harris. So not very well. Yeah. Yeah. I have to tell you, the airlines, I think they're getting worse and worse. They're more militant than ever. My family been flying back and forth on another airline, Delta, who's always been pretty good. And it is, I mean, they've been delayed for two days. I mean, it's been really bad. And some of these airlines, the way they're going and what the government is saying that, you know, you're not going to go on vacation on an airplane anymore, it seems like their working hand in hand to make airlines less desirable to have them not really function
Starting point is 00:29:47 other than like a third world country and just sometimes I've been on airplanes where I feel like I'm a hostage yeah sometimes you are they'll let you see on the tarmac for an hour and not even let you get up and use a restroom but I think corporations are starting to figure this out I mean we saw what happened to bud light and with Target and with all the boycotts I mean from what I understand, even Black Rock is starting to jump off that little wagon of theirs. Because it's almost like you woke up one morning and corporations just said, screw profits, who needs them? Yep, it is.
Starting point is 00:30:24 But they're learning. Well, I hope they are. I hope they are. I think some of these are going to play it to the death. And, you know, the death of their corporation couldn't come to a group of more deserving companies than the ones that are out. Two of my favorite pieces of art that you have, you've done recently, the pinhead Fauci is absolutely fantastic.
Starting point is 00:30:51 And then you go into, explain that one. So if anybody hasn't seen him. You know, it's pinhead from that movie Hellraiser. And it just looks like Anthony Fauci. I can tell you when I was putting that poster up, I saw my container of glue get kicked over. I thought it was my assistant, but it was the owner of the building with a screwdriver pointed at my back. So that's all I remember when I think of that poster.
Starting point is 00:31:19 But yeah, that was the reaction to COVID. That was my reaction to COVID. And I did quite a number of hits for COVID. So, you know, at least I was busy. You did some of your best work. I think the best political, I don't know, a poster that I've ever seen that hits harder and is more well done than anything that you usually see is your anti-vaxxer, where your A and your V are made to look like a star of David. And it absolutely looks like it could be pulled out of the 30s. And it just says, report anti-vaxxers, call 310 and then it gives the number.
Starting point is 00:32:04 which I think it was what you were supposed to do in California, we'd call a number and report on people. And it says, because you care and they don't. But the picture you have on your website is you've posted it on a Jewish synagogue. It appears to be. How did that go over? It didn't go over well.
Starting point is 00:32:33 It was kind of disappointing. Some of my best friends are Jewish. I have absolutely no problem with Jewish people. Believe me, I have friends who don't seem to like them for whatever reason. But I knew that there was going to be some heat for this. And from what I understand, the West Hollywood police were looking for me, and they were comparing me with all these anti-Jewish hate messages that are going around the country.
Starting point is 00:32:57 And what I always try and say is, no, this is a cautionary tale. We don't want to go back to where we were. and 30s. And, you know, the saying, never forget, well, I'm trying to help you not forget. And the sad part is, you know, I get labeled anti-Semite for doing it. And I picked that location because you want a nice photograph, something that applies. And so, yeah, I know the synagogue, and, you know, I think it just fit. I tell you, the bravery that it takes, and I know you and your, you're, you know, your cohorts do it in the middle of the night but you are you are you are you have a huge
Starting point is 00:33:44 target on your back and it amazes me that you aren't more famous than you are and I think that's just because the powers of be do not want to expose you to people because some of the stuff you do is just so powerful I appreciate you saying that and honestly professionally speaking All I ever focused on was the next hit. It's like I wasn't the kind of person that really try to milk the attention that I get. And I'd probably be a lot further along financially if I did. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 00:34:20 But you're right. It's like the art community isn't going to embrace me. But I've learned that if you just fight hard and push hard, you'll get there. So hopefully this will be a – it's definitely going to be an interesting year coming up. So I have the Towers painting that you did, which was the Twin Towers kind of looks like a tarot card. Can you explain that one just a little bit? I did that like a day or two after 9-11. And if you look into the meaning of the tarot cards, there's a card called the Tower.
Starting point is 00:35:00 And it was obviously for me, it was very difficult. I'm an ex-Marine or I'm a Marine. and to see what happened in New York really hit hard. But I think if you really want to either take on or understand the people that did this, you kind of have to put yourself in their mindset. And that's what that piece, that was an exercise for me. I was like, what were these people on those planes thinking when they hit those towers? And they were thinking that they were knocking the crown off of the great Satan.
Starting point is 00:35:27 And I think to be a good communicator or a good artist, you have to be like a good lawyer. Your mind has to go to these places in order to find the art, the art that you want to do. And, yeah, so that was one of the first pieces I did after 9-11. The next one was the F-piece, a warbird that I did. I don't know if I can cuss on this. Yeah. No, you can't.
Starting point is 00:35:55 It's broadcast. Yeah, those are my brother and sister pieces. And two of my older pieces, actually. I think I may have, I may own that one as well. Have you sold the death, the COVID? That is brilliant, the tarot card of death. That's COVID. You know, no, I'm making a series.
Starting point is 00:36:14 I've got a death one. And what was the other one? I have a third one that, um, uh, anti-war, wasn't it? No, it was stopped to steal. It was, uh, the gentleman with the, uh, horn hat. And he's like stepping off. the cliff, those are all based on tarot cards.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm hoping that that series touches on very important pivotal moments in the country. And, you know, one could say COVID was just COVID, but no, COVID destroyed a lot, not only in the country, but the world. It's still destroying. We're not the same country at all. No, we're not the same world. Definitely not the same country.
Starting point is 00:37:03 No. And one could say that January 6th was the American Reich staff, and we're starting to see how the feds were involved, and just how much rot is around this country. So I believe that that was a very pivotal moment in our history. Well, I really appreciate your work. As you know, I collect your work, and I highly recommend anybody collect.
Starting point is 00:37:32 the poster or or whatever you can i think uh what sabo does is so incredibly important insightful um you may not agree with everything that he says or what he prints but it is absolutely brilliantly done and i think in time he his work will be remembered as very very important in the american story go to unsavory agents dot com that's unsavory agents dot com if you haven't seen sold the death original yet please hold that for me because i'll contact you because that is just brilliant stuff just brilliant stuff i want i appreciate that i just finished a 400 page uh table book and i'm looking for a publisher so uh call me oh okay i will i will i think your work you should absolutely be on coffee tables i mean coffee tables of people who are you know maybe a little edgy
Starting point is 00:38:29 but I put it on mine, I think it's brilliant stuff. Or in your man cave. Yes, your man cave. It is perfect. It is perfect. Great. Sabel, thank you so much. Appreciate it.
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