The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program | Guests: Russell Vought & Marlena Pavlos-Hackney | 3/18/21

Episode Date: March 18, 2021

The Left is using a murder spree in Georgia to push the narrative of an anti-Asian hate crime crisis, but Glenn has his doubts. Small business owner and Polish immigrant Marlena Pavlos-Hackney is fa...cing arrest for violating the coronavirus restrictions, and she joins Glenn to explain why she’s not backing down. Former Trump OMB Director Russell Vought joins to critique the Biden administration’s handling of the border crisis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the podcast. Guess who's back in town? Glenn Beck, back from his terrible injury. He tells us a little bit about that today. But he's back in the house for all the news that you need to know right now. Pat Gray joins us. Today, we also talk to a business owner who is not putting up with the pandemic craziness. We have a former Trump administration official to tell us what's really going on behind the scenes. And we learn about how white.
Starting point is 00:00:30 your whiteness, if you happen to be white, that whiteness is a pandemic in and of itself, and whiteness needs to be killed, according to the left today. Totally okay thing to say, I guess, in today's world. You can subscribe to this podcast, rate and review it. We'd appreciate that. Also go over to Stu Does America.
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Starting point is 00:01:04 Nancy Pelosi sucks pen.com. Here's the podcast. You're listening to. House press secretary, Jen Pasaki, I refuse. I refuse to follow in her footsteps and the footsteps of her family for generations trying to silence the pee. It will not be silenced. Jen Pasaki has blamed the Trump administration's rhetoric on the corona pandemic. for elevating threats against Asian Americans
Starting point is 00:01:45 as investigators probed the motives of a suspect in a shooting spree that killed six Asian women in and around Atlanta, Georgia. So are those the only ones killed were the six Asian women? No, there was two other people who were killed. But they don't even, they're not even part of this story.
Starting point is 00:02:05 It's just he killed six Asian women. Yes, now he killed eight people and there's another person in, I believe, serious condition or critical condition. Okay. Which is not Asian. Well, I guess we don't care about those people because this is only talking about six Asian women. Tend to care about all of them, but that does seem to be what the story is indicating.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Me too. Okay. President Biden has come out and said, I think there's no question that some of the damaging rhetoric that we saw during the prior administration calling COVID the Wuhan virus or other things led to perceptions of the Asian American community that were inaccurate, unfair. And it is elevated threats against Asian Americans that we're seeing around the country. country. We'll go into that a little more, a little later. Last week, he denounced crimes against the group during a prime crime address describing the violence as un-American. I 100% agree. However, on Wednesday, he said he would not be speculating on the motive behind the Atlanta shooting. But wait a minute, didn't you just say that
Starting point is 00:03:02 it's the rhetoric of Donald Trump that is, I'm making no connection at the moment of the motivation of the killer? Robert Aaron Law, has been charged with killing eight people. Investigator said he told the police that the attack was not racially motivated that he claimed to have a sex addiction. Listen to this next paragraph. Even so, the deaths immediately provoked fears among local Asian Americans that the attack was directed against them following an apparent surge in assaults
Starting point is 00:03:35 coinciding with the coronavirus pandemic. Wait a minute. We should not be spreading. fear. We should be spreading fact. Pat Gray joins us now from Pat Gray Unleashed. Hello, Pat. Hello, Glenn. How much do you hate the Asian community?
Starting point is 00:03:55 Not at all. Not even one iota. It's so bizarre that this is because it's the China flu or the Wuhan flu. Do you remember that after the German measles came out,
Starting point is 00:04:10 we got so pissed at Germans and went to war against them? Amen, brother. Remember? Remember when we went to war against him because of the German measles? Exactly right. It's just so fascinating. Remember when we all said, I'm having more bacon than I've ever dreamt after the swine flu? Do you remember that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:28 We're like slaughter them hogs. Kill the pigs. Well, actually, they did kill the pigs. Yeah, they did. That's a different. They did. They also said that he was having a really bad day. And that was one of the motivations for it.
Starting point is 00:04:40 So, wait, he was killing them because in his own, interpretation, they were temptations that he couldn't refuse. Yes. And so he was going to kill them. And he was at the end of his rope and having a really bad day. Now, I've had really bad days before. Stu, have you had really bad days? I have.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Yeah. Not that bad. How many people did you guys kill? None. Zero people. Yeah. I mean, I've had bad days. Now, I don't know what his day was like.
Starting point is 00:05:08 But I've had some pretty whopper bad days. Yeah. And not once did I say, let's go kill a bunch of people. No. No. Uh-uh. You know what? That is an indication of absolute insanity.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Totally complete insanity. Not hatred for Asians, but absolutely out of your mind nuts. Just like, uh, this is like. So you think, you think insane. You think the word loss of perspective might be a little light. Quite. Quite light. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Because I was thinking, maybe it's just a loss of perspective. Yes, you're having a bad day. But they don't get perspective there. Yeah. Wait till tomorrow and maybe it gets a little better. Right. Right. Perhaps.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Right. Go see a doctor. I mean, it's reminiscent of, you know, the Boomtown Rats song that's based on a 1979 shooting. Right? I don't like Monday. It's the, I'm sorry, it's based on the, what? The Boomtown Rats song.
Starting point is 00:06:09 I don't like Mondays. If you've been listening already today, you've already learned a history lesson. Maybe you didn't know about Black Tom, why we don't go into the Statue of Liberty. How it was, how that was used to round up Asian Americans, you know, 20 years later. Why are you still blabbing? He was about to tell us this Boomtown Rat story. Right. I just, I just want to point out, now you're learning even deeper history with.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Yes. Yeah. Boomtown. Boomtown rats. Is that the name of the rock band? Don't act like you don't know the song. I don't like Mondays. You were in FM radio for a hundred years.
Starting point is 00:06:39 I don't ever remember playing the boom town rats. Come on. I don't like Mondays. You've never played that? Big song, wasn't it? Yes. I mean, it's a pretty big song. I think I would remember Boomtown rats,
Starting point is 00:06:49 even with all of my alcohol use. So they write this song, I don't like Mondays, based on what this killer said. She was 16 years old and she was having a bad day. She didn't like Mondays. And so a reporter asked her why she shot eight children and wounded them and killed two adults. And her response was, I don't like Mondays.
Starting point is 00:07:11 And this liven up the day. I mean, that's insanity. It wasn't because of anybody's race. It's just a person who's lost their mind. Did we really look? I mean, that was in the time when we didn't look. We didn't look. That was at the time.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Look it up right now. Who were the people that they killed? Because this isn't a time where we had systematic racism that we all denied. That's true. You know what I mean? So, and I don't like systematic racism. Race of. people in San Diego I'm not sure
Starting point is 00:07:50 Vice President Vice President keep looking it'll be you'll be surprised what will come up with Google Vice President Kamala Harris said yesterday we do not yet know we're not yet clear about the motive
Starting point is 00:08:03 and I don't want to say our Asian American community I just want to tell you that we all stand together with you and understand this is how frightening and shocked and outraged you are and how frightening shocked and outraged, all people are. Yeah, except I don't
Starting point is 00:08:20 think you mean all people. I don't think Kamala Harris would include me in that. And why are, because I'm, I'm with her 100%. I'm outraged, I'm shocked, I'm horrified. If this was a target of the Asian community, that's got to stop.
Starting point is 00:08:36 That's got to stop. If it was just because the guy was insane, that's got to stop. Okay. This time, you'll notice it's not the gun's fault. this time it's the hatred for Asian Americans who those people who harbor those kind of hatreds have a lot of guns you watch it will come together quickly so why is it that she is I want to make it clear I want to say to our Asian American community that we stand with you
Starting point is 00:09:06 and understand how this is frightened and shocked and outraged you well yes I agree with that 100 percent but is it too much to say it looks like he might have been targeting massage parlors. And so if you're a massage parlor worker, we also understand that you might be shocked and outraged and horrified as well. And we stand with you. Except it's more important for them to fear monger right now. It is.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Well, it's the tone, right? Like we've been having, we made it, they had all these statements from these companies. This has been the narrative bubbling under for months. And now this is the narrative. This is the event that proves it. Right. But again, it doesn't prove it. Even like there's this thing that that's happening now where with these statements where the guy came out and he said, like, I'm a sex addict and the police are coming out and indicating that's what they believe this was, not an Asian hate crime, but someone who has some very strange guilt about getting massages and God knows what else and is trying to, you know, do some terrible thing related to that. So the fallback position
Starting point is 00:10:17 Here's one example of it There's no reason to take it at face value In the first place this guy's word He's a suspect who just confessed to a mass murder But it's beyond absurd to parse it out as It's not racial He just sees women at these very specific places At these very specific places as sexual objects
Starting point is 00:10:31 Who exists for his own gratification Okay wait wait wait wait wait wait wait That's the racial thing is that we're sexualizing Asians And fetishizing Asians Which again okay Let's just take it Let's just take that at face value And say that's true
Starting point is 00:10:44 It's a totally different narrative than Donald Trump said the coronavirus was the Wuhan virus. Right? Like it's a totally different argument. It has nothing to do with the thing you've been telling us has been going on. And you're acting as if it's a continuation of that. And you also might want to include one of the big purveyors of that, Japan. Have you seen Japan Nation? Have you seen the way?
Starting point is 00:11:14 way women are sexualized in Japan. I mean, it's, it's not a white problem. It's a human problem. Sex and fetishes, a human problem. Not a white,
Starting point is 00:11:27 not a black, not an Asian problem, not a Hispanic problem. A human problem. So if you want to talk about fetidization of women, why do we start at the Grammys? Why don't we start with Cardi B and what she did? Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Mm-hmm. Oh, I was going to say, Stu looked at me like I have no idea. Don't ask me. I have no idea. I was going to give you a compliment for being one of the people that I know that has no idea what happened on the Grammy. I did not watch a second of it. I did not read a story about it? But did you hear about it with Cardi B?
Starting point is 00:12:00 I heard something about Cardi B. I don't know exactly what she did. Full-fledged lesbian grinding scenes. Okay? Oof. Like, man. Yeah. And so don't talk to me about who's.
Starting point is 00:12:14 fetishizing women. That's just freeing. That's just freeing. That's just free. There's no, it's liberating. There's no, it's liberating. Yeah. There's nothing degrading about that at all.
Starting point is 00:12:24 You know, they're also making this into sort of a religious thing because supposedly this guy's super religious. Really? So, wait, he was removing one temptation that he has in, he didn't want to have sex with these women, I guess, but he's willing to ignore the greatest commandment and not murdering somebody. but he's super religious. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Let's work on one sin at a time. Okay. Let's just let's, I can't do all ten at once. God, that's unreasonable. Like, give me two or three. All right. Not going to fetishize women and have crazy sex and covet. And I think there's a lot.
Starting point is 00:13:02 That's okay, right? Well, I'm still working on, you know, the first and second. And because I swore. I swore while I was, I was thinking about killing him, I swore. And I thought, I got to stop that. And then I got you know, I was having a bad day. I lost my focus. I loaded the gun.
Starting point is 00:13:19 I shot them. None of this makes sense. And unfortunately, the media has zero credibility when it comes to this. Oh, but wait, there is a great editorial in the Wall Street Journal today about this and about the progressives and their love of the Asian community. The best of the Glenn Beck program. This is the Glenn Beck program. Thank you so much for tuning in today. More COVID nonsense coming from Michigan. There is a Michigan bistro and pizzeria that has vowed to stay open, but there has been a bench warrant issued for Marlena. How do you say it? Hockney. Hockney. Marlena Hockney. And she is with us now. And she may be going to jail. Today. Marlena, how are you? Wonderful.
Starting point is 00:14:20 You're wonderful. You may be going to jail today. Yes, I stay strong because I'm not going to let the government intimidate me or put fear in me. I'm going to stay strong. I'm not going to surround myself. I'm going to keep fighting for American freedom and for a constitutional protected rights. Your maiden name, if I'm not mistaken, is... Pavlos, right? Yes. And you are an immigrant from Poland? Yes, that's correct. I escaped communists in 1983. I went to Greece and I was there in refugee camp. I went through Red Cross to, you know, apply to be able to come to U.S. and I came to U.S. 1988 and become citizen
Starting point is 00:15:11 1992. So Marlena, I just want to concentrate on this for just a second. when you were in Poland, what was the view of America behind the Iron Curtain? For you? The greatest country in the whole world. This is the freedom and better life that every human being in the whole world is dreaming to come to America. So this was my biggest dream. And did you feel that you, when you got here, that you were part of it? that country? Did you feel like
Starting point is 00:15:48 you found the dream? Yes, I did because this country has got opportunity. If you work hard, which I always have two jobs, you can accomplish a lot of things. People who want to work, you can do it.
Starting point is 00:16:04 People who don't, they don't. But you have the capability to make something better than in my country. In my country, I can work two jobs for minimum pay, and I will never be able to have what I have in this country. So you're in Michigan and COVID happened.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Did you at first, you know, for the 15 days, did you at all ever close your bistro and pizzeria? Like everybody else at the beginning, which was, I think, February or March 15, I closed for three, four years like everybody else. I followed the rules because we know that everybody said was pandemic, and the virus and so on. So you closed for three months? Yes, like everybody else.
Starting point is 00:16:53 I follow the rules, which we were open, I think, was, if I'm correct, June 14. Right. And what happened then that made you say, I'm not going to follow the rules anymore? Because, in my opinion, the government with me we have here in Michigan, she overstanned her power. She don't have no rights to impose those rules and regulations and we as a people, we have to stand up because that's not right. She's abusing the power.
Starting point is 00:17:24 So I decide we, the small business owners, we have to take control against this tyranny because we, the people, we have to have jobs to be able to survive. Government and government agency, they have a job security. They are our servants. And we, the people, we have to find. for us existence and keep working. So I decide they don't going to close me down. They don't going to rule me because I'm in charge of my property.
Starting point is 00:17:57 I pay the property taxes. I didn't see that the government will give me any break or any business, small business, that say, oh, guys, it's COVID-19. Everybody don't have to pay property taxes. No, she don't impose that. So we, the people, we have to take control because we have enough. We the people cannot see sign of tyranny. We, the people, and unfortunately lose the blessing of the liberty and freedom of a republic from the government.
Starting point is 00:18:29 There's a guy who was thinking about running for governor here in Texas. He's a movie star. And I just read a quote from him. He said, I don't understand the problem. So you're asked to give up a little freedom for the time being. but you get more freedom if you just do what you're told to do, and you get more freedom in the end. How would you answer that?
Starting point is 00:18:54 I will not give up my freedom. Like I told you, government protects Antifa doings. Antifa destroy other people, property, business, and they don't keep them accountable. Bad things become good. The good things like me running my business, and serve community, make a living, become bad. And they keep me accountable, and they want to put me in jail.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Something wrong with this picture. So the judge gave the order for bench warrant for my arrest without the band. That's against the constitutional protected rights that I do have. So I will not follow, like I told you, until Mordig, Visa, Pennsylvania, number 319 U.S.105, no state may license a right and charge a fee for it. So I can run my business without a license. This government agency, they create because, as you know, we have America was a republic. And in 1871, they switched to corporations.
Starting point is 00:20:06 So now we have all this government and government agency. They create new branches. They create new jobs. And we, the people, pay more taxes. They keep increasing and they get the money without doing the job they shoot. And we get slim because we have to give up us rights because they impose all those rules and regulations. They want to increase more taxes. That's not right.
Starting point is 00:20:33 we have to stand up and fight for us freedom. Well, I... As constitutional protected rights. Marlene, I will tell you this. I'm not sure about the 1871 thing, but we are entering a time where corporations and the government are one. And you can see that because the small businessman is shut out, but I can open up a Target or a Walmart or a Home Depot right next to your pizzeria. And everybody can go in and be fine. there. It seems the big businesses are not having to play by the same rules the small businesses are.
Starting point is 00:21:09 No, because you see different rules for different people, they discriminate against the small business owners. So you go to Target, you go everywhere, place. They don't have to follow those rules like we do. We have to do the, take the names and the phone number and all other rules, masking. Everyone does over there anything they want, and they don't go after them. They only go after us. And that's not right. We have to stop this. So let me ask. Economic offer.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Marlena, now you're here and you have to find it, I mean, for lack of a better word, ironic that America is doing this. Are you seeing similarities at all that Americans wouldn't see with what you experience under Soviet rule? What's going right now, this is just the bikini of the communist regime. They try to take control. They try to give fear. They intimidate us.
Starting point is 00:22:12 And that's wrong. We have to start producing goods because in my country, the stores will be empty. There will be no jobs. We will have only government-created jobs, which was not many. Private business owners, they'll be not able to run the business because they will charge them the Turks extremely high, so it's not going to be even able to run the business. And the shelves will be empty and it was just, I mean, poor conditions.
Starting point is 00:22:50 And if you wanted to buy, like, we will be given like one kilo meat per person. We will have like stamps, food stamps. So you can only get one kilo of meat, 17 packs of cigarettes, one bowl of vodka, And if you want to buy anything, you will go in the front of the store and you will wait all night. And you don't know if you're going to be able to buy anything because most of the time nobody will do delivery because nothing will come. So where do people like you run if the United States continues to go down this path? I don't know. We have to create new leadership that will stand up and do the job.
Starting point is 00:23:33 upright, the greatest of the nation can only be measured by the future of its freedom and integrity of his authority to protect that freedom. Who's in the background there? Is that your husband? Yes, I have Rick Martin, who is my counsel. Oh, okay. Assistant of counsel. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Well, I, Marlena, you make sure that if you're arrested, you let us know or he lets us know right away. We want to follow your story. Thank you so much. We'll look into it and we'll talk again, I'm sure. Thank you so much. By the way, if you would like to support Marlena, you can go to GoFundMe, support Marlina's Bistro and Pizzeria is where you will find a GoFundMe page to support her in all that she is going through right now. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening. continuing our theme on the border. We have somebody that is going to give us a lot of stats on what's really going on the border,
Starting point is 00:24:51 but I would love to have him back again. He is currently the president of the Center for American Restoration, but he was the former director of office and management and budget. He was involved in a few things. He had a big hand in helping Trump slow down the disbursement of Hurricane Aid to Puerto Rico when there were all those problems. He also was the guy who held up the aid to Ukraine, where everybody said it was so bad. Turns out, no, the president was right to do that. He is also the guy who helped find the money to build the border wall as the director of office and management and budget.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Oh, and the last thing he's known for is he's the guy that Biden's people said, we're obstructing. his team from knowing anything, uh, on the transition. And he wrote and he said, I'm giving you everything that I can give you. My office is working with your office, but I'm not going to help you destroy everything that we've worked for. So you're going to have to wait until the inauguration on that. His name is Russ Vote and he joins us now. Hi, Russ. Hey, Glenn. Thanks for having me on. You bet. Man, I've got so many questions, but I know we want to, because of our limited time, I want to focus on the border. First of all, there is a compelling story out of Cochise County where the sheriff there is saying this is an absolute nightmare.
Starting point is 00:26:24 They were building the fence. And then as soon as Biden got in, they stopped construction. So all the roads that were built for construction are all now being used by drug cartels. And nobody's doing anything about it. and they've made the problem much, much worse by stopping the construction. It is a complete mess. This administration has taken an ideological approach in which they have refused to account for all the steps that we put in place
Starting point is 00:26:55 to be able to control the border after dealing with our own surges. It was the border. It was the remain in Mexico. It was the changes to asylum. And all of these things were done to deal with the imperfect names. nature of current law, and they have wiped those away, and now they have a massive problem on their hands. One of the main aspects is the border, and it has made no sense. During the Obama years, the border was always a problem, and we were always getting these
Starting point is 00:27:23 groups that were, you know, marching people up. Trump had one group start to march up, but he dismantled that. Can you go into, were you part of that? Did you help turn those people around those, what was it, three or four thousand people that were marching to the border, and he helped, he turned them around. Were you part of that? It was a team effort. My responsibilities were mainly to help with getting the resources for the wall, helping them to get some of the rules done that were needed to change the policies that were in place. But you're right, Glenn. The president dealt with similar surges that were coming from the Central American countries, and he was able to put policies.
Starting point is 00:28:06 in place that dealt with them. This is not rocket science, particularly because we demonstrated over the last four years how to do it. What you can't do is then say to the entire world with a neon light, come to this country, and we won't arrest you. It would be like me saying and putting out a public service announcement that says, I'm going on vacation and my house is unlocked, but don't come to my house and steal anything. I heard NPR today say that Joe Biden is giving $5 billion to these countries south of the border. And Trump's policy was he would deal with anything, just keep your people from coming up here.
Starting point is 00:28:49 And so he was giving money to the shadiest dictators and everything else down there where Biden, he's going to spend the money honorably. can you tell me how the president, President Trump was giving money to dictators and didn't care where that money went? Yeah, no, he actually put a hold on a lot of foreign policy that he felt had some serious issues, whether that was Pakistan, whether that was funding in Gaza. And that was one of the things that we took quite a bit of heat on from the Hill and the media, because we said, look, we're going to pause it. and these are wide open accounts. Unlike the current funding for the wall, where there's not a lot of flexibility for the administration, in foreign aid, you have quite a bit of flexibility.
Starting point is 00:29:39 And so we put pauses on that funding to figure out what's a better use of the money. With regard to Central America, we put a pause on and they said, look, we're not going to give you this money unless you deal with the fact that you're sending huge swaths of your people north to our border. And that's what caused it to be able to negotiate agreements with those three countries in particular, and then to get Mexico to start enforcing their southern border, and the threat of tariffs also helped with that matter. I want to talk to you a little bit about the beds and the room for all of these illegals.
Starting point is 00:30:19 When President Obama was in office, I went down to the border. I was the first person to talk about these cages that they were keeping children in. And I thought it was wrong. I talked about it. No one. I called Chuck Todd myself and said, look, this is what's going on in the border. It's a huge problem. And children are being separated and just putting cages.
Starting point is 00:30:42 They didn't care. Then Trump got in and it was a big deal. Now they're saying, no, those cages have been removed. Those cages don't even exist anymore. We've got them in really. nice trailers now, but they're going to places like our convention center here in Dallas. Can you tell me the real situation on the ground? Do you have any idea? Yeah. So the process is this. When they come across the border, the kids are only allowed to be
Starting point is 00:31:13 in these custom border patrol facilities for about 72 hours. So they have that shot clock that they're dealing with. But then they are transferred to, HHS and in terms of unaccompanied alien children. And that's what you're seeing the rush to be able to figure out how to scale up with those sets of individuals to be able to make sure that they can live while the HHS goes and tries to find a sponsor for them. And of course, you know, there is significant things that we do. don't make it, we make it comfortable for them. So the American taxpayer makes it so that those,
Starting point is 00:32:00 those kids, once they're out of the customs and border facility stations, sometimes it's trailers, sometimes it's retrofitting an arena, but that's where the federal government steps in to try to scale up the way station while we look for sponsors. And it can be, you know, pretty costly. and it's something that you don't have resources for in the moment when you have a surge come across. It's much more of something that needs to scale over time because if you're not dealing with a hard facility, you're dealing with tent cities. So what do we have coming our way? I mean, we're already in the convention center business, and I'm not seeing this administration do anything to discourage.
Starting point is 00:32:48 They're saying, don't come yet. don't come right now, come later. But I'm not seeing anything that is discouraging people or, you know, hurting the drug cartels business at all. If they continue down this road, what are we facing? I think we're going to see more of the same, Glenn. I don't think, you know, real change requires real change. And they have an ideological problem. It's not just that they don't like the policies that we put in place.
Starting point is 00:33:20 to deal with, but they believe that everyone should be able to come to this country, and they have a built-in view that it's all as a result of fleeing persecution and violence, and that's not always the case. And when it is the case, it doesn't mean that there isn't better solutions on your way to America, that America doesn't have to be the final destination for everyone in this world. And the combination of those two worldview issues on a policy and from the theory is is going to make it very hard for them to get a handle on this. And so my concern is that they're going to need resources at some point to pay for these beds, to pay for these facilities.
Starting point is 00:34:01 They're going to come calling Congress. And at that point, my hope is that the slim majorities in the House and the Senate allow us to change policy to make it so that we can get a handle on the border, even if they don't want to. Well, you've got a group of people that want to abolish ICE. What happens if they abolish ICE? What does that even mean to the average American? It's another example of how far left and extreme their views are.
Starting point is 00:34:29 And, you know, if they're coming calling to Congress for resources and the AOC contingency, the quad is saying, look, we're not going to give them another dollar. Hopefully that gives Republicans a little bit of leverage to say, well, you're going to change our border policies so that we don't have these magnets in current law that attract. illegal aliens from across the country, across the world. As a guy who was the director of the OMB, and that job, if I'm not mistaken, is to implement, find the money and find the way to implement the policies that the president wants. It's a very powerful office.
Starting point is 00:35:10 And as we have seen really over the years, especially with Obama, once you institutionalize stuff, it's hard to claw it out. I don't think Donald Trump institution, I don't think he got it. He was fighting so many fires. I don't think he had time or got it fully until maybe the, maybe until the, the stuff with Ukraine. But as a guy who sat there and watched all this, when they were coming in, what was, what is the thing that worries you the most about the changes or the, the switches that they are flipping? Yeah, they have a capacity to move. with such speed and energy because the media doesn't report on anything that they're doing
Starting point is 00:35:56 and they don't get the leaks from their own staff that many of us face. For those of us had to live in a fishbow, that's the job we signed up for. We're happy to do it. But it is much harder to control the message and to move forward and to get a hold of your agencies. It took me about three years to really figure out all of the, the tool that in my toolbox to be able to maneuver and to accomplish the president's agenda. So, you know, the things I'm most, they don't, so they were able to move very quickly once they came in. But the things that I'm most worried about is their ideological disposition to put
Starting point is 00:36:38 equity in critical race theory as part of every single decision they make. And so they can use a place like OMB, which is involved in everything, to say, we're going to deal with equity. and we're going to deal with climate, two so-called emergencies that, in my view, do not exist and use that agency to push it out on every policy that the federal government is involved with. We have something that happened to us this week that we've been doing investigations along those lines, and we're going to be revealing it next week, but it is, they are moving at lightning speed, and it is terrifying. if people don't understand what's really going on.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Russ, I want to thank you so much for your service. I know you're with the American Restoration Center that I'd have you on again, and we can talk about that. But thank you so much for everything you're doing and have done in the past. I got to believe in some ways it probably was the best times of your life, but also just total and complete L. It was a full-on blast. I love working for the president.
Starting point is 00:37:46 I appreciate you getting our back. when it was necessary. Thanks for having me on. Thank you. I appreciate it, Russ. Thank you. We're saying, in the phone,
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