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It's Pat and Stu and for Glenn on today's podcast.
Jeff Fisher also joins us today, embarrassingly.
And we apologize for that and the negative actions that it might trigger.
I don't think you did to apologize.
We tried to move the studio so we wouldn't know where we were, but it was too late.
It was too late.
We all had the equipment hooked up and everything.
It would have been a pain.
Today we talk about guns again, and the idea that Republicans are coalescing around gun control.
The president seems to be kind of on board with this one,
and really we spent a decent amount of time today
asking people who really support Trump
if this is an okay thing.
And there are certain lines that you don't want anyone to cross
even when you're a big fan.
Is this one of those moments?
And the reaction is pretty interesting, I think.
We talked to a guy who
heard Trump
tweeting about, or read Trump tweeting about Baltimore,
decided to do something about it,
not just sit back and BS like we always have.
And everybody else in the country
gets back and forth in Twitter battles and arguments.
decided to go to Baltimore and actually help clean it up. And so he's been doing that. And it's a really
cool story. He was Scott Pressler. We talked to him today. Point of personal privilege.
Yes, yes, Pat. We also, we also, we also, what's your pronoun?
She, she hers. She hers. She hers today. And tomorrow, I think, I'm thinking about
they then. They them, got it. But we're, we're going to, we're going to take you through the
socialist, the Democratic Socialist Convention, which, man, do we learn a lot from them. We learn a lot.
And we can make this a more perfect society just by paying attention to what they have to say.
If you could stop using your personal product.
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Stick here in that.
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Gun control is coming.
We fought it back.
How many times?
A thousand?
A million?
Yeah.
He's just time after time after time, the same thing happens.
Somebody, you know, we have a terrible tragedy and then the guns are blamed.
And then the Democrats come for the guns.
And then the Republicans stand up and say that's not the issue here.
We need to go after, you know, what's wrong with people who are using the guns and killing other people.
This time, a little bit different.
Republicans are coalescing around gun control.
The president is talking gun control and talking executive action and legislation on gun control.
And he is floating this out as a trial balloon to see how you right now sitting in your car are going to react to it.
And I'm wondering if like his stand with, let's say, the deficit, which he doesn't care about.
now Republicans don't care about it.
Like his stand with tariffs, which he loves,
and so now Republicans are fine with it.
Are you going to be okay with gun control as well?
I would love to hear legitimately from,
I kind of only would like to hear from Trump supporters on this.
If you're a Trump supporter and you think he's doing a great job,
and look, we've talked about this,
there's a lot of things he's done that have been great.
That are great, yes.
I mean, you know, looking, you know,
I mean, the capital of Israel being recognized as Jerusalem is something that not only would a Democrat never do, but I don't think any other Republican candidate would have done it either.
They hadn't.
I mean, how long have we seen multiple presidents, but even the candidates, maybe Cruz.
The only reason I say Cruz is because it was like the first thing he said in his first speech.
Yeah.
I'm going to move.
And he said day one, that's what he was going to do.
Right.
So maybe Cruz.
But like 99% of Republican candidates would not have moved that embassy and Trump has.
And we've praised him endlessly for that without.
qualification.
His Supreme Court
justices have been good.
Yeah, I mean, certainly Gorsuch.
Gorsuch was a complete home run to me.
Kavanaugh, I mean,
Kavanaugh he fought for through a completely
unfair process, though Kavanaugh
I'm much more concerned about than
Gorsuch. But still, there's been a lot of
good things, and we don't need to run through the entire list of them.
You know these things.
There are certain things
that you wonder if,
are you going to be comfortable with them
if these lines are crossed.
I was, you know, I know you were on this,
bandwagon as well, Pat, and a few of us here at the Blaze, and some in conservative media,
more I would say in libertarian sort of circles.
I was very disturbed by the bump stock ban and the way that went down.
It was basically an unquestioned executive action by the president with, I mean, I don't
think you could pass a law constitutionally to ban a gun accessory.
What stops the next president from coming in now?
and forget the law, but just doing it himself and saying,
you know what, pistol grip is, it's just an accessory.
They did bump stocks, no one thought about that.
It's just an accessory.
They could ban all sorts of things when it comes to guns.
And again, I say this as a guy who is not a gun guy.
I don't care about guns per se.
I care about the Second Amendment.
And I care about the Constitution and the process that it represents.
Yeah, I'm the same way.
I mean, I once owned guns.
I don't know what happened.
I lost them both.
I don't know where they are now.
You've lost your guns.
Yeah.
So if they ever come for them, you don't need to come to my house because they're gone.
Somebody took them a long time ago.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
That's good.
Yeah.
Right.
So I'm already taking care of on the whole gun confiscation thing.
I don't have them anymore.
I don't know what happened to him.
It's been so long I can't remember now.
Oh, okay.
You know?
Well, then there's no real reason to go down this road any further.
No real reason at all.
But yes, we're big into the Second Amendment.
We're into the Constitution and the Second Amendment.
I believe in that.
I don't know all the, you know, gun terminology,
and we get taken to task all the time when we talk about gun terminology
because we're not gun enthusiasts.
I don't go hunting.
I've, you know, done some target practicing.
I like it.
It's fun.
Occasionally go to the range.
But I don't do it a lot.
It's not a passion of mine.
Yeah.
But the Second Amendment is a passion.
Yes, in a big way.
And, you know, it,
pretty clearly states
shall not be infringed
in the middle of it. It's really
clear about that. It really is. That doesn't mean
when I really want to. It might be
the clearest of all
the Bill of Rights. Right, because
obviously, you know, the founders knew
the second the government gets in there and wants
more power, the first thing you're going to do is go after
weapons, right? So they made it
super duper clear that you can't take them away.
And of course, the Supreme Court has backed that
up multiple times.
So what they want to do is
go back to
the thing that's being
I would say is the
marquee proposal here is the
red flag law
and the red flag law
feels like the right thing to do
we talked about this yesterday
it feels like a good idea
basically the concept being
if people around you are saying hey
this guy does not seem stable
he's got a bunch of guns
I'm really worried you can go
to the authorities and say hey
Bob over there
seems like a psychopath
you should take his guns
They'll go in, they'll take his guns for a short time.
Make sure that he really is a psychopath.
And if they rule that he is, then he doesn't get the guns back.
And everybody's happy.
That's the concept.
That's the happy telling of that story.
So that's a happy telling too,
because we've taken the guns without any sort of due process.
Yes.
Which is terrific.
Right.
I think we're all in favor of jumping right past due process
and just go to the punishment first.
It's minority report.
It really is.
It's convicting you of a crime that you have not committed.
And this is crazy.
It's not even being, I mean, at least they've got people in milk in minority report.
They're taking the guns before they even ask the people in milk.
This is like if a minority report, someone went to Tom Cruise and was like, hey, I got a person over here.
I think the milk people should look at.
Can you take all their stuff first?
And then they take all the stuff and then they'd go ask the milk people.
We haven't even found the twins yet or the chick.
I forget what her name was, but we haven't found any of them.
of them. At least get them first, right? Back in 60 seconds.
This is the Glenn Beck program. Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program. So we'd love to hear from you at AAA 727 PECK, see what you think about this. Gun control. Republicans seem to be on board with it. The president seems on board with it. Are you on board with it? Let's go to Sandy in Ohio. Hey, Sandy, you're on the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Stu. Hi. I'm not happy with it.
I called the White House comment line yesterday, and I told the woman that I will not vote for Trump if he said he would support our Second Amendment rights in all his rallies.
And I'm not going to go for this.
I called my senator.
I called about five other senators, and you have to leave a voice message.
And I told them, we have enough laws on the books.
They're not working.
they can abuse this red flag law
way too easily and the Democrats will
definitely the Democrats will
and I also called the NRA
and I asked them are they trying to talk to Trump
and explain how this can go very bad very quickly
and they said they were
so I don't know but
I think a lot of people will not vote for him
if he's going to
I mean, we already have red flags, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, well, they do exist.
I mean, what they do require is due process,
and that's what this changes.
Yeah.
There are plenty of red flag laws that exist,
if you want to call them that.
The difference is this would let you confiscate the guns
before we find out what the...
Right, what the result is.
Thanks, Sandy.
And it's crazy.
That's crazy.
That's un-American.
And it's unconstitutional.
as far as I'm concerned.
I don't see how that could be deemed constitutional.
I think so, too.
And look, I think Trump has been really good on a lot of these things.
And I think his record on the Second Amendment since he's taken office has been mixed.
He's like the Supreme Court very, very good.
The bumpstock thing, I think was very bad.
But that being said, I think there is, it's not a core issue of Trump's.
If you go back and look at, you know, his writing, you know, he's written books where he came out for the assault weapon ban, right?
In the past, in the past.
I think he's had a conversion on that,
but it's not like a core issue.
He has, there's multiple reports
that he's saying with AIDS that he wants to do this.
We've talked about the clip,
the section of the book after the Scalice shooting
where he said he wanted to do gun control
and have Scalise be the face of it
because, you know, he had street credibility.
You know, I don't think,
I think this is one of those things that he would give up
if he does, if he believes
the American people are fine with it.
If his base is like, you know, look,
it's one of these issues.
Maybe you can get a concession on immigration or whatever else.
That would be great.
And if you can do that fine, it's just a little minor shaving, a minor, let's call it a
infringement on that particular right.
And if he senses and the White House senses the American people in his base are okay with
it, it will happen.
If there is a revolt and they say, dude, we love you, but you can't go here,
I think there's a really good chance he doesn't.
do it. I think that is legitimately, we are teetering on that edge today is where we are. I mean,
I've been reading the reporting all day. You look at where the Republicans are. The Republicans are the same
way. This isn't a core issue for Republican senators. They don't care. Unless it's like Rand Paul.
You know, there's a few people who really do care about the Second Amendment. But a lot of them are like,
well, look, we can give a little ground here, a little infringement. It'll help us. It'll take the
political pressure off and we can do other things.
That is the way a lot of these people in Washington are looking at this,
and if they don't hear your voice, they're going to go ahead with it.
Adam in North Dakota, you're on the Olympic program. Hi.
Hi.
I think it comes down to a shall not be infringed.
Mm-hmm.
Plain simple.
Mm-hmm.
You know, we've had enough infringement on our Second Amendment rights as it is,
and this is just a step too far.
I'll be done with him.
appreciate it.
Thanks a lot, Adam.
I think that's, you know, I mean,
I think that's going to be
the viewpoint of a lot of people
because this is an important,
I mean, this is a God-given right.
And you can't infringe upon it
because we all know that you start infringing,
it's not going to stop.
And that's the slippery slope
that you start sliding down.
And it's really tough to stop.
stop once you start it.
And so I think a lot of Second Amendment believers understand that concept.
And I'll break a little news to you, as if I'm breaking news to you, because everybody in this audience
knows this to be true.
But the second the left gets their red flag law, there will be another thing they demand tomorrow.
And the next time there's one of these incidents, they will demand that, and the Republicans will
fold on that.
And then we'll give them that, and then they'll keep going, and they will keep going, and they
will keep going.
There is no, you can't give an inch on this battle.
First of all, constitutionally, you can't give an inch.
You're not allowed to.
Right.
But even if you were allowed to, the second you give an inch to these guys,
they are going to try to take every single inch that they can find.
And they will add up to multiple miles.
So what do you think of Republicans, Republicans coalescing around gun control?
The president talking about executive orders on gun control,
legislation on gun control.
Multiple senators on record today, Republicans and people in the House saying they will push through this and they can get it through the red flag laws.
Man.
And it includes other things too.
You know, some, there's one, where is here?
Republican.
I will support legislation that prevents the sale of military-style weapons to civilians, a magazine limit and red flag legislation.
That's from Michael Turner, Republican.
There's multiple Republicans.
John Thune's quoted in here.
McConnell has yet to commit.
Lindsay Graham, though, is saying he's going to be on board for this.
They have a lot.
And the president is signaling the same thing.
The president has said multiple aides.
They've leaked this to multiple outlets that he is going to,
he's testing the waters basically to see what happens.
Yeah.
So that's what we're doing too today.
We're doing the same thing.
We're testing the waters.
You know, if you're a Trump supporter,
I would love to hear from you 888-7-27-B-E-C-K.
Is this too far, or is it just, it's okay?
You know, he's done enough good things that we really like in other areas,
and we can deal with, you know, a little bit of erosion here on this particular amendment.
Jack, in South Carolina, you're on the Glimbock program with Pat and Stu.
Good morning, gentlemen.
How are you all today?
Doing well.
Two quick things.
A lot of people are missing it.
If they remove the word guns from the speech going on from elected officials right now,
and replace it or remove guns and replace it with the word speech.
How do you want to have the ability to not talk for 30 days a year until some judge says you're
allowed to speak again?
That's incredible.
Yeah.
That is exactly how everyone would consider it.
You would not consider it.
Oh, no.
God no.
And I also want to remind everybody who is a citizen of the United States when the Second
Amendment was ratified on 50.
15 December, 1791, U.S. citizens owned their own warships and were able to wage war.
Great Britain.
Right.
That's a fair point.
Yeah.
It is.
I'm thinking, though, Pat, we go a little bit further with us.
Thanks, Jack.
A really good point.
Maybe we do this with all the amendments.
And at any time that we want, we can just, if we report that we don't think a person's going
to be in a good frame of mind, we can go.
to the authorities and suspend
particular amendments. Like I would say,
right before, let's say,
early November,
we go and we say, you know that 19th amendment?
I'm not crazy about it. And here's the thing.
A lot of the women I know are nuts.
And they should have that voting thing
suspended for just like a week or two.
Until December. First week in December. Yeah, first week in December,
they can have that back. I mean, we just want to make sure that they're not
erratic. And if you rule, if a judge rules
that it's okay for them to have their voting rights back.
Okay, of course, of course.
This is a sensible common sense solution.
But we'll just repeat the 19th Amendment can be infringed a little bit for a week or two.
What's the big deal?
I mean, this road is not a good road.
You'd have revolution in the streets.
If you tried that.
Yeah, you would.
Teresa in Florida, you're on the Glimbeck program.
Hi.
Yes, good morning.
Good morning, gentlemen.
How are you?
I wrote emails and I called all of my representatives yesterday.
I sent them about 14,000 word-paged document expressing my concern about these red flag laws.
And as a single woman in Florida, the gun is the great equalizer.
It is the only thing that gives me enough time to save myself.
On average, I've been in gun classes.
On average, it's 15 minutes before a cop shows up.
And these incidents took less than four seconds for the carnage to occur.
And I told them, all of them, because I voted for Trump and I voted for Senator Rubio and I voted for Rick Scott and I voted for Congressman asked that they intend to take away my Second Amendment rights.
I will not vote for them and their agenda.
And Rubio's been one of the people who's pushed this the most.
Thanks, Tristan.
He was pushing it before this.
he's a big red flag
guy and look there are smart people
who are conservatives that are
that think this is a good is a good
sensible mid-ground step
it's not it's not just liberals pushing this
it's not and it's not just like rhino types
there are people who think this is a good idea
and you gotta have and you gotta be really careful
with it I mean it's not without
people without smart people arguing for it
but I just don't see how you can go down this road
and be confident about it
I mean think about think for a second
about the way conservatives have been treated on the internet
when it comes to social networks.
Basically, Twitter has a red flag law, right?
Facebook has a red flag law that they implement,
certainly much more competent companies than our government.
And they implement this idea.
If people flags your posts,
if people say you're too controversial,
if you're doing something out of step with the community,
Twitter can rule on whether you get to,
to keep your account.
And how's that working out for conservatives so far?
Good?
It doesn't seem like it to me.
Again, this is speech.
Yeah.
Now, this is not through the government, so it's not a constitutional violation like I think
red flag laws are.
But this is, has this worked?
Dana Lash makes this point in a column she wrote for the federalist about red flag
laws.
And if you think the idea of people who are, you know, if you think the Twitter and Facebook
thing's working out well.
For speech, when it comes to whether your speech is too controversial, think about that applied to the government.
When people say, you know what, supporting this particular group is dangerous.
It's a terrorist group.
I mean, gosh, you know, Southern Poverty Law Center said David Barton was a terrorist.
I mean, you want to go down this road?
It is a road that does not end with your guns in your house.
I'll tell you that.
We just want to hear from Trump supporters.
You voted for Trump last time.
You're excited about Trump.
what do you think of the
what do you think of the potential
executive order on gun control
what do you think of the legislation
the Republicans coalescing around
gun control big headline
yesterday on Drudge Report
Republicans coalesce around gun control
I really have never
I wouldn't have believed
you'd see that that headline
even two weeks ago
and you know the Republicans in Congress
have absolutely no spine as we know
and they will back
off of this immediately if Trump says no.
If Trump says, you know what, no, we're not doing
this. They will not even. They will.
Because if he, if Trump says, you know what, if you bring it in
here, I'm vetoing it, it's dead.
Well, they're only coalescing around it because
Trump is. Right.
So, I think they would vote for it.
You know, left to their own devices, would they vote for it?
Probably because they are, you know, this is what
Republican Congress people do a lot of times.
But if they are given the cover of Donald Trump,
oh, they're definitely throwing for this.
there. This will pass with 80 votes.
Yeah. So I would love to see, I would love to hear from people and, you know, we'll obviously
take calls from anybody any day most of the time. But today I would like, if you were a Trump
skeptic, if you're a person who was like, I don't really like the guy, but you pulled the
trigger at the, you know, the last second and voted for him. If you're one of these people
who doesn't think he's so great, that's not, it's not, it's not the time to call. I would
like to hear from people who really like him. But seeing this about to happen, what is
your reaction? Are you okay with it? Or is this like?
Because we have seen time and time again.
When Trump likes it, so to Republicans.
When Trump likes it, so to supporters.
It's just a phenomenon that we've seen repeated over and over and over and over again.
I mean, even hardcore people who have been talking against tariffs, their entire lives,
all of a sudden, they're fine with tariffs.
I mean, you know, again, shall we remember that Larry Cudlow is currently serving in the White House,
the guy who's like the face of the free trade movement for three decades and is in,
and we will come out in front of cameras and talk about.
about tariffs. So, you know, I mean, it's, it is. And be good with it. And be okay with it.
Not just talk about it, but be good with it. It makes sense.
Yeah. T tariffs make sense. We got to, we got to stop China. And I think like, look,
there's a big separation in that. Free trade is not a core idea of the average Republican vote.
Right. Like, it is, it is something that has been very central to the small government movement.
But, like, you know, it's not something that the everyday person is thinking about. The Second Amendment is a different.
story. It has always been a major line for a, you know, for certainly a talk radio audience.
Like, you don't look, it shall not be infringed. The Constitution's important and we need to respect it.
Is this okay? Is this something that you can deal with? Triple-8-727 Beck is the number.
Diana in Massachusetts. You're on the Glenn Beck program with that. Hi. Hi.
Hi, this is Diana and I am the founder and president of a group called MA number four Trump.
and we still 100% support President Trump.
However, we are making known that we do not want these red flag laws.
Massachusetts already used that.
So we are pushing.
Last night I gave my weekly live stream and telling people to send letters to the White House,
emails, emails from the NRA, email from goal, emails from anybody to tweet President Trump,
to tweet the administration.
We still support him,
but we have to support him this way
because we have to start doing
some of the heavy lifting
and letting people know that, no,
we are drawing the line. We are not
supporting red flag laws.
Absolutely not.
That's great.
Thanks for doing that, Diane. I appreciate it.
Hopefully that will have an impact on him.
When you see his hardcore supporters saying,
please don't do this.
Don't do this.
This is not the right way to go.
Maybe that'll have an effect on him.
I think if he sees that his supporters,
his base is upset about this,
maybe that changes his mind.
We'll see.
I think there's a really good chance of it.
But he's got to hear from you today.
Yes, today.
On social media, certainly Twitter is a good place for that sort of outlet today,
I would say, making sure that.
And again, I, you know, I think you can be very respectful and be, and be a person who's honest about, hey, I really.
And supporters will be respectful.
Yeah, of course.
But I mean, it's like, it's just like, look, we, we love you, man, but like, not this.
Right.
You can't, you can't do this.
And I, you know, I don't think it's a core issue of his where he would see this as, like, a massive deal.
Well, I don't want crazy people to have guns.
I think we talked about this yesterday.
It's one of the more, it's one of the, it's a thing that feels okay.
It feels sensible to be able to take guns away from.
from a person that everyone around him says is a bad person.
I mean, it feels okay.
And it feels okay.
And, you know, the other thing that feels okay are background checks.
And he's saying that background checks are a good idea.
Well, yeah, that's why we have them.
Yeah, we do have them.
That's why we do them almost universally.
The only time you don't get a background check is if I sell a gun to you.
And we have a private transaction between the two of us.
And I say, hey, you know, I've got this gun.
which I don't anymore because I don't know what happened to them.
They're completely gone.
I forget where they went.
They're responsible, Pat.
Yeah, I know, but it's somebody sold them.
It's been years now.
But it's been years and I've just forgotten.
But if I had them still and I wanted to sell them to you,
there's no way I can do a background.
You can't do a background check unless we go to a dealer
and have you call in and do a background check.
I mean, look, there is a...
And you could do that because if I sell you a gun and it's proven later
that you're not eligible to that, then I'm liable for that.
And that's already the law.
So if there is risk, if you sell somebody like a private transaction between two people
and that person that buys the gun from somebody isn't eligible to own guns,
then the seller can be held accountable as well.
Yeah, look, and there are...
So you take a risk, not getting the background check.
I think it was the, I want to say it was the church.
shooting that happened a couple years ago.
And they, the shooter, I think, I think it was that one.
Was that, was that, I'm getting the name.
Is it Dylan Roof that was, is who I'm thinking of?
Anyway, I think it was, it was one of these shooting situations where the guy actually
did violate, he was, should not have been able to purchase the gun, had the background
check.
It went for three days and the government was like, well, I don't know, we can.
can't really make a decision, and they were able to buy the gun and wound up using it in a mass
shooting. And so one of the arguments being made is we need to extend that window, right,
so that the government can now take a couple weeks to decide whether you're able to execute
your constitutional right. Look, that needs to be an instant system or nothing. I mean,
three days is stretching it. Yeah, it is. You know, 90% of them, I think, go through and almost
instantly, but there are that 10% that, yeah, you got to come back.
Yeah, and so, but I mean, two weeks, you're telling me this, you're telling me.
That's ridiculous.
Come on, what year is it?
What freaking year is it?
It's 2019.
You can't do a background check and less than three days.
That's ridiculous.
It's assonine.
It's assonine.
Dave, in New York, you're on the Glymbeck program with Pat and Stu.
Hi.
Hey, how are you?
I'm just calling in to get my opinion out there and some of my close friends and family that we live up here in New York.
We already see where the gun control machine.
machine goes and we couldn't in good conscience vote for Donald Trump or any other candidate
that pushes gun control and wants to defraud U.S. citizens of their rights.
Like I said, we already live under it.
We voted for Donald Trump because he promised to support our Second Amendment rights
because he promised that he was going to try to protect us.
And we were all hoping that federal legislation would go through.
Some Supreme Court justices would be in, which he has done,
and hoping that maybe some unconstitutional laws that exist up here in New York would be reversed
and seems that it's going the other way.
That's very troubling for us up here.
Absolutely.
Thanks a lot, Dave.
A.J. in Pennsylvania, you're on the Blaze or the Glen Beck program.
Also.
On the Blaze.
You're on both, yes.
Hey, how's it going?
Is this the Blaze? Are you sure?
Yes.
We think for the moment, yes.
Hey, guys.
So I'm a really big Trump supporter, a big gun guy.
And the problem is, if he does this, who else do we have left?
Obviously, the other side and their candidates are completely nuts, so that they're not an option.
But with these red flag laws that they're talking about where anybody can just say,
hey, I think that person's crazy and you should take their guns,
that is the beginning of our infringements on our Fourth Amendment rights of unreasonable search and seizure.
And it's a slip in the open.
I think it's just going to spiral out of control.
Yeah, no, I think it's true.
And that's a great point.
Dana writes about this as well.
This is what Dana Lash writes in the federalist.
There's nuance to be had here for sure, but realize that it is an abrogation of due process to invert the order of innocent until proven guilty to somewhat guilty until proven innocent.
The question isn't whether these laws do this.
The question is whether you feel comfortable giving up a cornerstone of our republic for a safety dependent upon enforcement by a government that has failed at this before.
and it fails at everything else too.
Yeah.
So you're talking about the second amendment.
You're talking about the Fourth Amendment.
You're talking about the Fifth Amendment.
Parts of the Sixth, the Eighth.
It's, when does it end?
When does it end?
It doesn't.
Once you start down this road, it doesn't.
No, it doesn't.
And here's a, can I make a very meager and mild proposal here, Pat?
And I know this is something that we just can't as a society handle.
But like, let's just say,
it's the right thing to do, the red flag law.
And let's just say constitutionally you can do it, which I don't think you can.
But let's just say you can.
Okay.
With all the certainty of human nature behind me, we should wait a month to do it.
Because you never make the right decision in an emotional state right after a tragedy.
You don't make massive financial decisions after, you know, your wife and kids were
a terrible car accident.
And you're sitting there being like,
all, this is what I'm going to plan X, Y, and Z.
You want to be in a sober decision-making state.
And right now, they keep saying, well, we've got to do it.
It just happened.
We got to take advantage of this emotion.
Think of what they're telling you.
They're telling you, we want to take advantage of this emotion.
They're telling you we're not going to let this crisis go to waste.
It's like going to the grocery store when you haven't eaten for two days.
Yeah.
You're going to make some bad decisions along the way.
You're going to make a lot of bad decisions there.
Uh-huh.
So instead, when you're...
Not smart.
No, you prepare your meal at a time where you're thinking maybe right after you ate when you're full.
And you're like, well, my next meal can I do something healthy?
I feel good.
And this is what the situation is here.
You can't make a decision in this aftermath.
And it's funny because you hear like New Zealand praised for this.
Oh, well, they had a mass shooting.
And in three days, they banned all the weapons.
And it's like, you're proud of that?
That's a terrible way to run a government.
Like, it's like, oh, well, you know, every time you have a tragedy or some big emotional situation,
You rush through legislation that's binding for all time?
That's a terrible idea.
Wait until there's, you want to have a law,
you want to have a calm debate about this at a time that isn't in the immediate aftermath
over one of these things.
You can at least, it would at least make sense to attempt it there if it was constitutional,
which by the way, it's not.
It's just not.
And that means something.
The best of the Glenn Beck program.
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You should check out Pat Gray Unleashed.
His podcast is available wherever you download your favorite podcast.
You know, there's a thing that people do, I guess, that is act as if everything Donald Trump says is terrible.
Like, you have to disagree with it.
If he says the sky is blue, well, you say it's red.
If he says Baltimore is not a nice place and needs to be cleaned up, you say it's a paradise.
That's almost an actual resort.
It's an all-expenses paid sandals.
It's basically an inclusive resort.
Yeah. And that is what happened when he did tweet about Baltimore.
And it created a lot of activity in the media in which they went to defend Baltimore and confirm that Donald Trump was a racist.
Just because he spoke truth.
I mean, there are a lot of rats in Baltimore.
And it does have some serious, serious issues.
It does.
And we all know it's crime-ridden.
And it's a little bit messy.
It is a little bit messy.
And even some of the residents went out to show you the mess.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, they were not hiding it.
No.
They're not happy with the situation there.
But it wasn't all like negative activity that was inspired by these tweets.
Scott Pressler saw the tweets, thought about it, and decided to do something a little bit different.
And Scott joins us now. Scott, welcome to the program.
Thank you. Good morning. How are you gentlemen?
Really well. Thanks for coming on.
So you saw Donald Trump's tweets.
You saw what he.
was saying about about Baltimore. You didn't go and run and say, well, this guy's a racist and go
protest him. You did something else. Can you talk about it? Absolutely. Well, you know, I was inspired
by President Trump's tweet and what I saw is a whole lot of talking going on. Everybody was
whining, complaining, and nobody was actually doing. So I said, you know what? I put out
one tweet, just one tweet saying, I'm going to Baltimore. Even if it's me standing on the street corner,
all about myself and I'm going to go pick up trash.
And that one tweet went viral.
And people all across the country were saying, Scott, how can I contribute?
What can I do?
How can I support your efforts?
And so I never thought that Monday was going to be a nationwide effort, but it truly was.
That's fantastic.
So you actually, now where do you live?
I'm in northern Virginia.
Okay.
So it's what, an hour or two, an hour to Baltimore from Fairfax, an hour and a half?
Yep.
Yeah.
Okay.
you go to Baltimore and you start just cleaning up trash and things that you see in neighborhoods
and were there people actually there to help by then?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, we actually, we drove around a couple hours to find the perfect spot.
I really wanted to make the most difference in the most amount of time.
So we were over at North Fulton and Westwood Avenue right in the heart of the city of West Baltimore
where the Freddie Gray protests were going on.
Literally, we didn't go to a nice part of Baltimore.
We didn't go to the Inner Harbor or Baltimore Convention Center.
We were in the heart of West Baltimore.
And plenty of parking was there.
We had dumpsters set up, and there was plenty of trash for us to go around.
But here's the best part, gentlemen.
The best part was the locals within five minutes of setting up, came up,
and were thanking us for being there once we said we were there to pick up trash.
And they came to help.
That's great.
People that lived there on that very street corner came by and an act of love and community to come together.
Do you see any rats along the way?
I only saw one.
Wow.
No, no, no.
No, I mean that very respectfully.
Yeah, that's great.
Okay.
I have to make something very clear on this radio call with you.
Okay.
The people of Baltimore love their city.
Yeah.
They really did.
Yeah.
It's not the people, really, that this is happening.
The city is forgetting its own people.
These are the forgotten citizens of Baltimore.
Because take a drive.
Take a drive in Baltimore City.
What do you see?
You see bandos everywhere.
You see abandoned buildings, which are unsafe, hazardous, and a lot of them are owned by
the city.
Well, what happens at these bandos?
Well, a legal dumping goes on.
So I'm talking to a grandmother out there who says that her grandchildren have to go out
and play in this filth, and it's unsafe, it's hazardous.
There's glass.
Like we said, there was a rat literally there, dead in the street where the grandchildren
play.
No, the city needs to stop forgetting its people, take care of the bandos, take care of the
illegal dumping, because the people of Baltimore shouldn't have to live this way.
There seems to be a massive difference in the reaction from the political class, the Elijah
Cummings of the world, and the media.
And then on the other side of this, the actual.
citizens because a lot of, you know, outwardly obvious conservatives have gone into Baltimore
here and tried to make a difference.
The reaction from the people of Baltimore isn't, hey, get out of here, you support Donald
Trump.
It's thank you for actually caring for a second about us.
Which is great.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And business owners came over immediately.
I mean, literally, we were there for an hour.
Mr. Tang, who owns the store in the street corner, we're literally outside of his store.
It says, make our streets clean.
mean again, Mr. Kang brought over sleepers and said, what can I give you? Do you want soda? Do you want water? Do you want drinks? And he generously gave our volunteers some drinks. And then Mr. Williams, the funeral home owner, he came over and said, what can I do to help? He says, the next time that you have this, we're going to let the entire community know. So our goal, and I might be put in the cart before the horse, is we want to do more of these. And when we come back to West Baltimore, because we want to go block by block, street by street,
You can bet, I'm going to tell Mr. King we're doing this.
You can bet I'm going to tell Mr. Williams we're doing this.
And we're going to form a community where we all come together and just clean up the street.
How can people get involved with that effort, Scott?
Is there a place you can go and sign up and find out more?
Yeah, people can either go to Scottpressler.org.
Pressler has one S, Scottpressler.org, or find me on Twitter.
My DMs are open, even though I have 319,000 followers.
read my direct messages. So if you'd like to be a part of this, please let me know. I literally,
I don't sleep. I spend all of my life reading DMs, calling people. So whether you're in L.A.,
San Francisco, Houston, Detroit, Michigan, let's start cleaning up our cities across the country
and show people that we give a darn. That's great. Cool. Thank you so much for taking the step
and actually doing something instead of just, you know, like us, just blathing about it all day.
but I do appreciate you actually doing something about it.
It's important, man.
And I think other cities, I bet, are going to jump on this bandwagon as well
and hope that you come visit them because, you know, Baltimore is not alone here.
Baltimore was kind of singled out just because of the Cummings part of it with, you know,
the little battle they have going on.
But this is going on all across the country.
Oh, I can confirm with you right now.
We're already planning in Newark, New Jersey and L.A.
Those are already going on right as we speak.
You might also consider Sam.
Francisco, California, which has a little bit of an issue.
All right, Scott, thanks a lot.
Appreciate what you're doing. That's great.
Scott Pressler, it's Scottpressler.org, P-R-E-S-L-E-R, or you can get them on Twitter at
Scott Pressler.
That's cool.
I love those stories.
We had a guy, we had a couple guys on, I know, it was maybe a year or two ago, that
were libertarians, and they were just like, you know, we're just going to go fill
potholes around the city.
And they just went and paved.
And they just paved potholes all around the city by themselves.
Wow.
And of course, obviously, the city had to step in and try to stop them.
Well, yeah.
You don't want people doing good things on their own.
Or the guy, remember the guy who they were going to spend like $50,000 on this four-step staircase?
And he just decided just as a carpenter went out, just built it himself.
And then they like condemned it.
It was like a perfectly fine thing.
And they tore it down and then rebuilt it for a new cost just because the city couldn't take it.
You can't have a guy just doing some work on his own.
I love when people do that.
that because that is really much closer
to the vision of this country
that our founders had. No doubt about it.
You know, step up, do it yourself.
The federal government's not going to even be involved.
You know, we used to, when people would show up
when there would be disasters,
the people would show up to the feds and say,
you know what, go home. We don't need your help.
We're going to do this ourselves.
That was the attitude of this country for a very long time
and it is really eroded.
But I'm glad people like Scott are doing stuff like that.
That's really cool.
I think it's just coincidence that
Democrats have been in control in Baltimore since 1967.
That's a coincidence?
Just a coincidence.
Yeah.
It's a coincidence that that's the case in Baltimore.
And then, you know, Poop City, USA, San Francisco has had similar reign of Democrats
for the last 50 to 60 years.
Detroit, Michigan, same thing.
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, same thing.
anywhere there's high crime and a lot of garbage to clean up.
High poverty.
High poverty.
You're going to find Democrats in power.
We did this stat.
I mean, we measured this statistically.
And I think it was an inconvenient book.
I think it was one of Glenn's books.
And we went through and looked at the top 10 cities with the highest poverty rates
and how often they had been run by Republicans in the last 45 years or something.
I can't remember the exact time frame.
But I believe it was 9% of the time for all.
of these cities combined.
And it was like, you know, one or two people in one or two cities.
And the other cities, I think eight out of the ten were 100% run by Democrats the entire time.
And this is like, how do you, how do you not at some point at least try the other side?
Try freaking the Green Party.
Try the libertarians.
Try Republicans.
Try anything else except Democrats.
This is not working for you.
And I think, you know,
anybody who lives in these cities
who continues to vote the same people in
and then complain about the results.
I mean, who's at fault here?
Is it even the Democrats anymore?
Or is it the voters?
Because you can change this.
We have elements of our democracy
in this republic. You can change things.
And hopefully that's going to happen at some point.
It's amazing that doesn't occur to the people in these cities.
It's amazing.
I guess they just sold on like, well, it's right?
I don't, not going to vote a racist in.
I'm not going to vote some corporate fat cat in, like,
all these little catchphrases that wind up in manifestos.
But they work.
The catchphrases work.
They do.
They win people over, I guess.
The richest 1%, the millionaires, they don't care about the little people.
What about the trillionaires?
No one talks about them.
I know.
They're just going to skate off scot-free.
They just skate.
Scott-free.
It's true, though, these, you know, people like Bernie Sanders.
Bernie Sanders went on the Joe Rogan podcast, which was a brilliant maneuver because, you know,
Rogan has a lot of people who are on the right and on the left.
It's a huge audience.
And, you know, Joe Rogan, admittedly, but he would admit that he's not like a particularly political animal.
He's not like in those sorts of conversations.
So Bernie got away with a lot in this particular interview.
I listened to some of it yesterday.
But at one point, Bernie gets to say, he said something like he will agree that 99.99% of gun owners will never do anything like what happened here in a million or a billion years.
But we still need to ban assault weapons.
and it's like, I don't even know how to deal with somebody who thinks that way.
I know, stupid.
You're going to take the rights.
How can you let cars on the road with that attitude?
We know that 99.9% of people who drive cars will be fine,
but some will get drunk, some will intentionally run people over,
some will be erratic with them.
How can you possibly allow them on the streets?
I can't even, how do you even talk to someone who thinks that way?
Totally bizarre.
Bizar.
This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
An amazing conference that was held, a national conference of a major political party, the Democrat Socialists of America.
And they held this conference in Georgia.
And it was pretty fascinating.
It was eye-opening.
What a window into our future.
Yeah.
Because you see, you know, this is something I'm going to get into on TV tonight.
I'm filling in for Glenn on Blaze TV.
Go to blazTV.
dot com. Use the promo code Glenn, save you some money.
Love to have you sign up.
Doing these things and they're not exactly
popular in the mainstream media, so we do
need your support to continue to
dive into this stuff. But one of the things we're
going into tonight is this idea of a
victimization culture. It's this
you know, and it's very well
the Mount Rushmore of this
particular movement is the squad.
Every single
thing that happens, they find a way
to turn it into I've been victimized.
So the most recent example
with Alexandria Acacia Coortez is some high school students were being idiots and
being silly high school students just like everyone was in high school and they were doing
some offensive things to a cardboard cutout of Alexandria Acacio-Cortez.
Now any adult, like a high school kid doing something ridiculous, you laugh it off,
you say, oh, you know, come on, what's the big deal?
Of course, in this case, because it's Cortez, you have the Daily Beast writing an article,
including the picture of these high school students,
making them into, you know,
national news figures because they were silly in a moment.
And then misquoting Mitch McConnell's campaign about it.
And then Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
misquoting Mitch McConnell's campaign.
And, you know, turning yourself into,
I can't believe this.
Just so, you know, you weren't actually assaulted.
It was a cardboard cut out of you.
You're, like, I don't even know how, like,
Oh, man.
What kind of culture do we have where a congressperson feels the need to act all upset and assaulted over some high school students touching inappropriately a cardboard cut out of them?
That is not a society that has a long future.
And so you see this with the Democratic Socialists, which is the group that, by the way, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a card-carrying member of.
This was, I believe, the young socialist or I don't know the exact name of the.
the of the organization, Y-A-A-AS, and they had some real problems being triggered.
Just trying to get through basic business, Pat.
This is so amazing.
It really is.
It just shows that, you know, the generation of parents that has raised these kids has really done them some disservice.
And they look to be, what, 20?
Yeah, in their 20s, early 20s, maybe in all socialists and they can't handle anything.
They can't handle anything.
They can't handle whispering.
They can't handle noise.
Well, you'll see.
It's amazing.
Here's a couple of outtakes.
This is the first one here.
They're all just being triggered, and I think you'll understand the pattern pretty quickly.
Quick point of privilege.
Quick point of personal privilege.
Guys, first of all, James Jackson, Sacramento, he, him.
I just want to say, can speak with each, you for those pronouns.
I'm one of the people who's very, very prone to sensory overload.
There's a lot of whispering and chatter going on.
It's making it very difficult for me to focus.
Please, can we just, I know it's, we're all fresh and ready to go, but can we please just keep the chatter to a minimum?
It's affecting my ability to focus.
Thank you.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Okay. Is there a sister against name, chapter pronoun?
Point of personal privilege?
Yes, yes, go ahead.
Please do not use gendered language to address everyone.
Right.
Guys about to cry.
Don't use gendered language to address anyone.
By the way, I got that backwards.
YAS is the one that posted its young Americans against socialism.
This is, I think, this is, that's not the actual organization.
The organization is the, is the Democratic socialist, right?
So this is the one, this is our national convention.
Yeah, this is the AOC organization that she, that she belongs to.
I should have known the second guy complaining about gendered language did not sound like a young socialist.
And I will say, I should not have called him a guy.
Thank you.
I used gendered language.
I apologize for that. He just asked you not to. He did. Specifically
requested that one thing not be done and I just did it. So I apologize. I'm discussed. I don't even
know if I get finished a show with you today. He just asked you not to and what's the first thing you did?
Well, I'll say this. I can't focus with you talking all the time. I am trying to focus on this show and I keep hearing you talking and saying words.
Point of personal privilege, please. Yes, go ahead. That doesn't matter. It's my feelings that are important here.
Nobody cares about yours.
That point of personal privilege?
Yes, go ahead.
Stubergear, he, him.
Mm-hmm.
Just want to say,
I am very triggered
by
by Marissa, our producer,
telling us that we have to go
for a 60-second commercial break right now.
Who are you?
She's just telling you to interrupt
what we're doing right here.
Like this little, like, wrap-it-up signal.
I am.
And how can I focus on what I'm doing?
I am very, very stressed.
I am very stressed.
I need 60 seconds to think about it.
it. All right.
Oh, jeez.
Point of personal privilege.
Yes.
I am, uh, he, by the way.
He him, she, hers.
Uh, me, mine.
Uh, ours.
Those are my pronouns.
Uh, depending on how I feel.
They them.
I almost forgot they, them.
Do I have to use all of them?
Well, it depends on how I'm feeling on any given day.
Okay.
Um, but, uh, right now I'm, I'm feeling they them.
Uh, Pat Gray, by the way.
Uh, I do a, I do a show.
Pat Gray Unleashed, immediately preceding this particular show.
And then you can listen to it anytime you want on the podcast.
At Pat Unleashed.
At Pat Unleashed.
At World of Stew, if you'd like to follow us on Twitter.
And when I say us, that's one of my chosen pronouns.
Oh, good.
Okay.
So you can call me us.
Which I love.
I love the, we've even changed what the words actually mean.
Yeah.
Well, them is a real one.
Because if you don't know, I think you're supposed to say them.
Yeah, they are them.
They are them.
But they don't make sense in the context of how you use he or she or her.
Hey, they?
I, yeah, I guess.
You know, in Texas, maybe our personal pronoun should be y'all.
That just encompasses everything.
Right.
Well, y'all is the singular, and then all y'all is the brul.
All y'all.
So all y'all at this socialist conference were talking about things that were very disturbing
to them and we have more examples of them
and I love this because this is giving us a glimpse
into our future. It is. As we continue
to head down this socialist path
this is what we can expect.
Quick point of privilege once again,
James Jackson, Sacramento, DSA, he, him.
I have already asked people
to be mindful of the chatter of their
comrades who are sensitive to sensory
overload and that goes double
for the heckling and the hissing.
It is also triggering to my anxiety.
Oh no. Like, be
Comradly doesn't just for like, you know, let's keep things civil or whatever.
It's so that people aren't going to get triggered and so that it doesn't affect their performance as a delegate, okay?
Okay.
Being comradly, Pat, is something not just about civility, but it shouldn't not cause anxiety so that he's triggered.
Yeah.
And that would hurt his performance as a delegate.
This kid should stay home.
Yeah.
You know, away from any sort of stimuli.
I worry about him because if he can't handle this, so.
socialist convention is stay home.
The good thing I will say, however, about this, is if socialists do invade, apparently
we can turn them back by just whispering and clapping.
And that's a positive for our nation.
Maybe we don't need the Second Amendment anymore.
Maybe we could just whisper people away because the anxiety.
Or call them by the wrong pronoun.
Oh, can you imagine how that would harm them?
Can you, because they'd be worthless after that.
Now, I can't.
I don't want to be the one who would think that this adult has an actual job.
But can you imagine if this guy operating in a normal work environment?
I don't know how they get through life.
I mean, I don't know if I would be able to resist calling him she or clapping loudly every time I walked by his desk or just dropping books by him whispering constant.
I would take, I would buy a series of digital recorders and I would just have little conversations like this all over the place.
So you just hear like mumbling.
And then I would actually go in after hours in his cubicle,
and I would open up the seams of the fabric and insert them inside
and just constantly turn them on throughout the day.
In total disregard for his anxiety issues?
I would go back and rewatch the office for the 50th time
just to take some of the pranks from Jim on Dwight and do them to this person.
Oh, no.
Because I just would not be able to take it.
Now, that would be very triggering, and I apologize to he and him for that.
Sure would.
Do we have some more clips?
You had some clips from Pat, Pat,
Unleashed that you found as well.
We got to play them because they're all just absolutely fantastic.
It just here's here's more.
I see that no one's clapping for me.
It could be because I'm not engaging, but it also is because everyone's doing this.
And that's really important because those loud bursts of noise, even though this is a noisy
space, when we can do something like reducing that, that's really important.
So please don't clap, shoot up these.
We have a lot of disabled comrades and a lot of those are invisible disabilities.
You don't know who it is that is having a more difficult time navigating this space.
And this space was not created with all of their needs in mind.
So it's up to us to modify that space to make sure that everybody is able to move in the ways that they need to move.
Okay.
Wow, that's a lot.
There's a lot there.
First of all, are you still able to say disabled?
Is that an okay term?
I was surprised by that, as a matter of fact.
Shocked.
differently abled, please?
Thank you.
That was very triggering.
And I can't believe he wasn't called on that.
Thank you, he, him.
Point of personal privilege.
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and then we'll come back with more of these socialists
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