The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Sen. J.D. Vance & Carol Roth | 10/25/23

Episode Date: October 25, 2023

A shocking percentage of Americans support Hamas, including 36% of Democrats believing what Hamas did to Israel was justified. Recovering investment banker Carol Roth joins to uncover the truth about ...America's economy and how much the Biden admin is truly spending. Sen. J.D. Vance joins to discuss President Biden's attempt to tie Ukraine's and Israel's aid together and the continuing disaster at the border. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:58 Hometitlelock.com promo code Beck. Here's a podcast. You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck program. Welcome back to Stu. Nice to have you here. Thanks, Glenn. Glad to be back.
Starting point is 00:03:23 The surgery go. Your voice sounds the same, but you're... Yeah. I think you look nice in the dress. Thank you. Yeah. I picked this one out special for the first day. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Okay. So, uh, we look like... It looks like we might. have a new speaker today. Yeah. Mike Johnson? Now, of course, I want you to know as a person who obviously covers the stuff for a living. I'd spend
Starting point is 00:03:50 a lot of time thinking of Mike Johnson before yesterday. Right. And I want you to know. Didn't we all? Oh, yeah. This is either the guy or not the guy, one of the two. And it depends on your perspective. But what is your research tell you about Mike Johnson? Well, my deep research on Mike Johnson tells me a lot about him. A lot about him. That's what you get from deep
Starting point is 00:04:10 research. Okay. Now, that's why we do it. It's why we're so dedicated every day. Now, some would say that you're, uh, you're stalling here because you have nothing on Mike Johnson. Very little, honestly. Like he's, say social conservative, he's known as a social conservative. His voting record is okay. It's not a, you know, it's not Jim Jordan. But it's also, not Mitt Romney. He, he is in a very heavily Trump district, a very red district. which would indicate you want someone there with a very strong voting record. For that district, I would say his voting record is mediocre. But it's for the country as a whole, it's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:04:53 So Mike Johnson is now the nominee. He's the guy who said, we should not go back out on the floor until we know we have a speaker. Can we not just keep throwing people out and then being humiliated, humiliating ourselves? So they adopted that. And then last night, they did several roll calls. And we don't know, well, we do know. We don't know if he's going to get 217 on the floor. We do know that he got 201 in a roll call.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Now, that's the highest that they had had, 201. They had three present votes. and 19 absent. But the 19 that are absent, they feel comfortable they could get to 17 today. So they're going to vote today at noon. At least that's what they say right now. That's what they say now. We will see if that happens or not.
Starting point is 00:05:52 And they might. I mean, maybe they look, they are getting more and more frustrated with this process. Right? They get to that point where the more and more annoyed they get at going through this. And I think they feel embarrassed. I don't know that that's the right emotion. or feeling for this? So what if your vote fails?
Starting point is 00:06:08 I don't know why everyone, why are you getting embarrassed if your vote fails? Just move on. You just look like you're just a bunch of... Just do it. But this is the media framing of it. It bothers me a little bit. It's like they have a four seat majority.
Starting point is 00:06:20 It's hard. You know? I mean, like, it's not easy to get 217 votes when you have 221 to play with. Like, it's difficult. I'm sorry. People have different opinions. This is a...
Starting point is 00:06:31 Like, they act as if it's like everyone's just falling on their face. It's like, you know, Gerald Ford. in the Saturday Night Live skits over and over again falling into his Christmas tree. It's like this is a difficult process. What is what made this, which is kind of embarrassing part of it
Starting point is 00:06:46 is they threw the guy out beforehand and created all this on their own. They knew this chaos would be on the other side. Right. And they did it anyway. Right. But I mean, at the end of the day, if the Democrats,
Starting point is 00:06:57 you know, the Democrats seem to stick together no matter what. But if they had a four seat majority, it would be hard for them to pick a speaker too, especially if one didn't previously exist like Nancy Pelosi. If they had to come up with some new person, it would probably be difficult. That'd probably be Carl Marx, but that's just a difference. He is unfortunately not available at the moment. Yeah, he's not at the moment.
Starting point is 00:07:14 At the moment. Not at the moment. So in George Washington University, George Washington University, several Palestinian messages, pro-Palestinian messages were projected onto the university building by students from the university. Now, let me ask you, what's a pro-Palestinian? Palestinian message, Stu. Stop the bombing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:42 You need to be more specific. The bombing is at least started by Israel. You need a long disclaimer on each one of these things. But like something like, you know, peace deal now, ceasefire now, right? Like, how about this one? Is this pro-Palestinian? Glory to our martyrs. See, no, I would say.
Starting point is 00:08:03 That seems a little. Less pro-Palestinian, more, let's kill all the Jews. Yes. Pro-Hamas. Yes. Pro-Hasraeli genocide. Free Palestine from the river to the sea, which is also clean all the Jews out. Thinly veiled anti-Sematic.
Starting point is 00:08:26 I mean, you know, because if there's the river to the sea, where do the Jews live? They live between the river and the sea. Oh, okay. Generally speaking. Divestment from Zionism. Zionist genocide now. This is what is happening now
Starting point is 00:08:41 all over our campus. This is should be really disturbing. You had a pro-Palestinian demonstrator or, in fact, several of them, take and beat a
Starting point is 00:09:00 pro-Israel activist who was helping an old man. Charlie Kirk, this according to to Charlie Kirk. Turning Point USA, he identified the man in the video as Peter Christos, who was attending the rally along with another activist from the organization. Christos, Kirk wrote on X, was violently attacked while he and another TPUSA staffer were trying to escort an elderly Jewish couple away from a pro-Israel rally.
Starting point is 00:09:29 On the way to their cars, they encountered pro-Hamas supporters who assaulted them, punched them repeatedly and hit them with a flagpole before cops could pull them away to safety. They're not the only one who has posted about this. It was one of several disturbances which took place outside the Lincolnwood Town Center, where the Simon Wiesenthal Center was hosting a Stand with Israel event. About 200 pro-Palestinian counter-protesters came to picket the event. Police say at one point members of the crowd confronted an individual. individual who then brandished a handgun and shot one warning shot in the air. That individual
Starting point is 00:10:10 was taken into custody. A participant in the pro-Palestinian protest was also taken into custody for assaulting two people with pepper spray. Pepperspray. Pro Hamas protesters also chanted at a Boston rally. Biggest threat in the world today, Israel and USA. Is anybody sensing a problem here? Anyone? Anyone? Does anyone see a problem? Because I'm starting to. Now, polls will tell us, according to a new Harvard Harris poll, only the police and military are more respected than Israel. That's an amazing thing. except Palestinian Authority gets 17% support and Hamas has 14% positive rating, which is to say 14% of our American neighbors have taken the side of a medieval religious cult
Starting point is 00:11:13 that's vicious enough to cut Jewish babies out of their mothers before beheading them. I'm just saying, I'm a little uncomfortable with 14%. If I said to you 14% of this population were supporters of Nazis, would that concern you at all? When 14 people rally in some city, we hear about it for two weeks. Correct. This is 14%. If 14% of your neighborhood was all in with ISIS or al-Qaeda or the Nazis, or the Nazis, would you be concerned? concerned. Why are we not concerned? The other side of this, and this is a great point made by
Starting point is 00:12:08 David Harsani from the Federalist, many of those who claim to be supporters of the Jewish state are not. The Barack Obama types who do the perfunctory throat clearing about Israel's right to exist before going into the usual reasons it should not. This faction, let's be generous and call them both siders is a growing concern in the Democratic Party and on the on the fringes of the right according to a Harvard poll cross tab 36% of liberal of all ages agreed that the Hamas attack on civilians was justified liberals 36% say what Hamas did was justified how do you ever justify the killing of children and women and fathers in their homes, just coming in and shooting all of it. Can you imagine if Israel would walk across the border and just go into homes and just
Starting point is 00:13:13 start shooting people without war? That's murder. That's mass murder. I mean, what is the most justified war of all time? World War II? If our soldiers go in and they start raping people, it's not justified. Even in the middle of World War II. If they start decapitating babies, still not justified. It doesn't matter what the cause is. There's no cause great enough to justify rape and decapitation and the murdering and kidnapping of grandmothers. There's no justification for that. We all know war is terrible. Terrible things happen in war, but when we catch our soldiers doing things, I mean, remember the controversy we had in this country over the naked pyramids of an Abu Ghraib back in the day.
Starting point is 00:14:00 We were like, oh, gosh, they're embarrassing these prisoners. That was a controversy that we were embarrassing them. That was a big thing. Remember the waterboarding of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed? We spent hours and hours and hours talking about that. Was that right? Was that justified? This is literal murder of innocent children for no reason other than to terrorize.
Starting point is 00:14:24 the community. That's never justified. I don't care what they've done to you. That's never justified. Well, according to the new Harvard poll, a majority of 18 to 24-year-olds believe the killing of more than 1,200 Israeli and American civilians is justified. Nearly half of those 25 to 35 here in America believe it was justified. So you can go in and kill a family. Also, we probably shouldn't mention this because we're not supposed to, but you know what, I want to give you all of the information you could possibly need
Starting point is 00:15:00 so you know what the truth is while we have the ability to tell you the truth. A majority of American Muslims agree that Hamas was justified on its attack. Wow, this seems to me to be a real problem. Are we going to step up and do anything about it? why is it that our president is now preaching to Israel about how they should respond? Why is our president now trying to hold Israel back? He gave a lot of lip service to Israel saying, you know, they have a right to attack, they have a right to respond.
Starting point is 00:15:54 But now they're holding, the whole world is holding them back. if we can't as a people say, you know, there's a real problem here with beheading children, you know, going in and just shooting innocent families. If we as a people cannot say that, what kind of world are we building? I will tell you, we are building a world that aborts babies that kills children in hospitals if they're born defective or they have no real quality of life. We will round people up and gas them. We are creating the world.
Starting point is 00:16:39 The Nazis wanted to create. And with our technology, God help us. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. And we really want to thank you for listening. Carol Roth, the author of You Will Own. nothing. And former investment banker, Carol, how are you? Always a good day when I'm with you, Glenn. And I have to say, I want to say congratulations on the new information out, the relaunch of the blaze, the beautiful new look of the website. It's very exciting stuff. Very, very excited for
Starting point is 00:17:14 everybody. Thank you. Isn't it? It's a little disorienting to go to a website with no ads on it. I mean, at least it was for me. It's really nice. But I kept accepting. respecting all of these ads and I would look at something and be like, oh, no, that's just more information. It's really, it's quite nice. Thank you for that. So, Carol, let's start with the monthly budget review. I don't even know what we're spending this money on, but we are spending money hand over fist and I know we're going to pay for it eventually. tell me the latest.
Starting point is 00:17:56 So the latest, as everybody heard that for the end of fiscal year, 2023, that there was a $1.7 trillion deficit. And Glenn, that sounds horrendous. You know, we're not technically in the middle of a war, although we're on the fringe of several, but we haven't lost one. We have an economy that is technically expanding. We're no longer in a quote-unquote emergency.
Starting point is 00:18:22 How could we? spend $1.7 trillion. Well, I have some news from you. It wasn't $1.7 trillion. It was actually $2 trillion. So I went to the Congressional Budget Report, and since I'm a nerd like I am, I decided to read it. And there was some footnotes that were buried in information that was buried underneath the headline. And one of the things that I found was a little bit of, I'll call it accounting trickery, but it's not really accounting trickery on the CBOs. part. They were doing the standards that they follow. But what was communicated to the public and what was happening at the federal level was trickery. So go back to fiscal year 2022. And you remember that President
Starting point is 00:19:07 Biden wanted to do this illegal cancellation of student debt. So for last year's deficit, they put in over $300 billion that was the best way I can explain it that I've sort of understood it is almost like a a reserve or a write down basically saying, we're not going to get this money. And so this is an expense. And so fiscal year 2022's deficit actually was much larger what they portrayed than it was because of this accounting reserve that they put in there. Once the Supreme Court struck that down this year, they had to undo that. And it's not perfectly dollar for dollar because they figured out some way to save something along the way. But net net, that means that basically they took off this reserve of over $300 billion, which means the actual amount of deficit spending
Starting point is 00:20:01 that we need to finance is more than $2 trillion. And again, that's not what's being communicated to the public. You know, you might say $1.7 trillion, $2 trillion, what does it matter at this point? but at this point, especially when rates are what they are and we have to finance every one of those extra dollars, it just means more potential financial damage to this country. So I was having a conversation with somebody and they say, Glenn, the Fed isn't buying all of our notes now. And I said, I'm pretty sure they are. Maybe Japan, because there's some weird deal with Japan. but I'm pretty sure no one's buying it except the Federal Reserve. Am I right?
Starting point is 00:20:45 So this is a very sort of complicated issue. If you go back in history and you go back to before the Great Recession financial crisis, the deficits that we financed, that was basically done by foreign entities, whether it was foreign central banks or other foreign investment entities as well as other investors. When you get to the period between like 2008 and 2000, 2014, they sort of said, well, you know, maybe the U.S. isn't as tight as it was before. We have our own financial crises. We don't have the wherewithal to do this.
Starting point is 00:21:20 And so it was only financed in part. And that's when the Fed enacted this QE program, this bond buying program, and started adding assets to their balance sheet. So they started buying then. And then after 2014, there was basically on net no foreign central bank buyers because you had a lot of central banks around the world actually lessening their reserves, and they just didn't have the wherewithal. So the Fed was. Now, we're at a point where it's very questionable because the Fed theoretically is letting
Starting point is 00:21:55 assets roll off its balance sheet. And it also, you know, we don't have entities around the world. We don't have banks and insurance companies that have the wherewithal because they've gotten trouble with all of this long-term under-perms. reforming debt so they don't have the wherewithal to be out and be buyers. We do have higher rates, or higher yields, so that has enticed some folks. But obviously, we know that bonds and yields trade in the inverse. So that means that there is more supply than there is demand, and that's why the yields keep going up. So the Fed is definitely doing things in the market, which a lot of us
Starting point is 00:22:33 argue whether or not that's really QE, where they're doing things to maintain the liquidity in the market. But long term, this does become the question as as we continue to run these massive deficits and there isn't the appetite from other central banks to buy our debt. And we know that there's a whole slew of big central banks and big countries that are actually trying to do the opposite. They're trying to put pressure on the U.S. Who is going to be there to purchase this debt? And the answer long term is it's going to have to be the Fed. And what's going to happen, but basically the way this is going to come about is that you're not going to have enough buyers. You're going to see the yields go up.
Starting point is 00:23:18 It's going to create a crisis in the market. And the Fed's going to be left with some one of two choices. The QE that we talked about, the bond buying and a QE program is we're going to buy X dollars worth of bonds in order to get things down or something which Japan, has done called the yield curve control where they say, well, we want to target the specific interest rate and we'll just buy as many bonds as it takes in order to keep it at that level. And so that is the trajectory we are on with the amount of deficits we have, with the debt we have, with the interest that we have, there are only so many things. I mean, math's math. There's only so many taxes that we can levy.
Starting point is 00:24:00 They're not going to cut back services. We've seen that already. And so the only other option is debt financing. When there's nobody there to finance the debt, it ends up coming from the Fed, and it ends up devaluing your dollars, and we get inflation. And this is what people don't understand. People are decoupled from reality. Math is math.
Starting point is 00:24:21 There are only so many options they have. And at every single turn, this ends up hurting the American people. So when we see people pushing back and saying, oh, you know, I earn my Social Security, can't take it away from me. Completely understand that, but they've lied to you. So they're either taking it from you there. They're taking it from you in terms of your purchasing power or they're taking it from you in terms of your taxes.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Those are their options. That's the range of options they have. Is it, is it, I saw a story yesterday, maybe, that the first transaction with the Chinese won across states. has happened and that the Chinese are dumping our our treasuries and buying gold. Is that true? It is.
Starting point is 00:25:14 And that's the central banks that have been lightning up on treasuries, whether because they are trying to defend their own currencies or they're trying to raise dollars to buy commodities that are priced in dollars like oil or food, you know, that's been going on. And what they have been doing is they have been deciding, hey, if I need dollars, I'm going to sell treasuries, not sell my gold supply. And so, you know, net net, we've actually seen many of these central banks be massive buyers of gold. So it's going to say, hey, if I need to raise mine, and I have these different options,
Starting point is 00:25:52 I'm holding the gold. I think that's a better option than having these dollar-denominated securities, which, again, is a signal, A, in terms of trust of the dollar, and B, in terms of the global financial order, and this massive desire to say, we see weakness, we smell it, we taste it. This is an opportunity for us to knock the United States on its behind. And so they are going to take that opportunity to the ability that they can. Now, the one weird thing here that I'm going to put out for everyone. And this is going to sound backwards based on everything that we discussed is that given times of turbulence, the treasury market, the U.S. dollar being this huge liquid, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:38 well, generally well functioning market has always been the flight to safety. When we saw Israel versus Hamas, you know, Hamas attacks Israel, the first thing that happened is that bond yield went down because people were buying treasury bonds. But that only lasted about six days. And then we had a reversal. And now we're headed back this morning. I was checking. I think we're at like 4.9 plus percent on the yield. Had it for that, you know, five percent mark, which is a really key resistance level. And so, but what could happen, and we saw Bill Ackman, one of the big hedge fund managers, cover his trade and treasuries. And he said, you know, if things really were to accelerate, rate, people actually could end up going and buying treasuries as a flight to safety. So that's what we're trying to get through now. Is the treasury going to remain a flight to safety asset or is it being replaced, you know, in full by gold? We saw at least in this sort of temporary period that, you know, it was only a very short time people went to bonds and then they started buying gold again. And, you know, certainly I think that gold's going to play a massive role going forward. But what is that?
Starting point is 00:27:51 mean for the treasury market? And again, what does that mean for you is that if there aren't people to buy those treasury bonds, the yields go up, everything becomes more expensive. The cost of capital for businesses become more expensive. That ends up, you know, slowing down our economy has all sorts of implications. So that is not a good outcome for any of us here in the United States. All right. Okay. So we have five or six minutes here. Let's just talk about the second largest economy in South America that always seems to get on its feet and then they destroy it. And then it gets on its feet and then they destroy it. And it's destroyed every time, but the same thing.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Marxism. Yeah, so you're talking about Argentina and what we have to understand about Argentina is that it's this kind of weird anomaly. There's a famous economist that said there are basically four different types of economies in the world. There are those that are developed. There are those that are emerging. There's Japan and there's Argentina.
Starting point is 00:28:49 So this is a country that, you know, went from being really wealthy. I think they were like the 10th wealthiest in the world around 1900. They have, you know, a really great amount of soil, a very fertile soil for agriculture. Things were booming. And then they just created this massive welfare state. And they have been in this spiral that they cannot get out of where they just continue to spend. They get bailouts. They've got something like, I'm not even joking.
Starting point is 00:29:18 It's like two dozen, almost two dozen bailouts from the IMF. And it just goes to show you that throwing money at problems doesn't fix the problems. You have to go in and actually surgically address the issues, which are things over the course of history, but certainly in recent years, like massive corruption, like this overspending. And they have just been in this cycle that they can't get out of. So as you mentioned before the break, this is a country that has, I think at this point, it's up to 140% a year inflation. Now, funny enough, this is not hyperinflation. Hyperinflation is 50% a month or about a thousand percent a year. This is, I may teach people a new word today.
Starting point is 00:30:04 This is called galloping inflation. It's the stage right before hyperinflation. So if you didn't know it, about 20% to, you know, multiple hundreds of percent. a year is galloping inflation. So they have galloping inflation. And this is just crushing people. You know, they get their pay. If they're getting it in pesos, they're turning it into dollars immediately because they know that as soon as they have the peso and they go to the store that it's not going to buy the same amount as it did before. And this creates this massive crisis of confidence. It creates a lot of demand for dollars. So it's a very highly dollarized society.
Starting point is 00:30:39 In fact, a lot of the premier workers are actually demanding salary or payment for services in dollars because they're looking for something that's stable. But what's happened here, Glenn, is that 40% of their population is in poverty. And when I say poverty, I'm talking real poverty. I'm not talking about iPhones and nice sneakers poverty. I'm talking about you cannot eat for days poverty. So you would think that this would be a nation that says, okay, we can't have. handle this anymore. We want change. And that's why Javier Milley, who is this, you know, crazy libertarian who wants to, you know, do massive reforms and shut down the spending, that's one of the
Starting point is 00:31:22 reasons he was so popular. He won the open primary. You know, he was off to the races. But when it came down to the vote that we had just a couple of days ago, well, you know, the people who were in charge over and over again, they ended up actually coming in the first place. So there's going to be a runoff fuel. What are they doing? The best of the Glenn Beck program. Senator J.D. Vance, welcome to the program, sir. How are you? Good, Glenn. How are you doing?
Starting point is 00:31:49 Very good. Thank you for standing up for this. This is in my opinion, disgusting what is happening, tying these two things together. And the way we are financing Hamas and Iran is really stomach turning.
Starting point is 00:32:07 So thank you for standing up. Tell us what you're doing. Yeah, I appreciate it, Glenn. I mean, look, the problem here is that Joe Biden sees a political opportunity in 1,400 murdered Israelis. The terrorist attack happened, of course, that it's a very terrible thing. We lost a lot of Americans in that terrorist attack. And in my view, we want to empower the Israelis to do as much as they can to degrade Hamas. That's on the one hand. On the other hand, you have a nonstop Ukraine conflict that is, we've already poured $120 billion into. Joe Biden would like to pour another $60 to $80 billion on top of that. It is, I think, actively contrary to America's interests to food and fuel prices in the world to have this war continue. And so Joe Biden
Starting point is 00:32:52 has figured out that he can use the Israeli conflict to sell the American people on indefinite war in Ukraine. And in fact, he has delivered a supplemental spending package to the Senate that would do exactly that. Combine Israel and Ukraine. So it makes those of us who are pro-Israel, It makes it harder for us to oppose the package. And unfortunately, Glenn, this is the important part. Too many Senate Republicans are going along with it. When you combine these packages, you put pro-Israel conservative senators in a bind because they don't want to send another $60 billion to Ukraine,
Starting point is 00:33:28 and Joe Biden is effectively using dead Israeli children to sell this package to the American people. We need to separate the packages, have a separate debate because they are separate countries that raise separate questions and problems for our country. That is the reasonable thing to do, and we shouldn't be going along with Joe Biden's politicization of the Israel tragedy. But how are you going to do that? I mean, you have people like Lindsey Graham who, you know, thinks this is just gangbuster. This is the greatest, because now you can get both.
Starting point is 00:34:00 I mean, there are those who, honestly, J.D., can you tell me what does victory in Ukraine look like? I can tell you what victory in Israel will look like, an end of Hamas, possibly an end to the nuclear bomb building capability of Iran at the most extreme. What does winning look like in Ukraine, the death or the overthrowing of Putin? I have no idea, Glenn, and this is the problem with the Biden administration's policy, is they haven't articulated. What are we trying to accomplish in Ukraine? How long is it going to take to accomplish it?
Starting point is 00:34:39 and how much money is going to cost us to do that. The answer is, and when you talk to them in private settings, they will tell you, Glenn, they really have no idea how this is going to end. Their hope is that if they kick the can down the road another six months, maybe the Ukrainians make a strategic breakthrough, maybe the Russians just get tired of fighting, maybe the two-fairy intervenes. Something is supposed to happen that makes it possible to bring Russia to the negotiating table.
Starting point is 00:35:05 They know there is no victory for Ukraine, if you define it as pushing them completely out of the territory that Russia controls. So they're just hoping. And I don't think we should be spending $60 billion of American taxpayer money on top of $120 billion we've already spent on a hope of Joe Biden and his foreign policy advisors. It's disgraceful and it's disgraceful that too many Republicans go along with. I will say, one final point here. Obviously, Lindsay Graham and I disagree very stridently on the Ukraine question. but even a lot of my Republican colleagues who are pro sending money to Ukraine, they want to
Starting point is 00:35:43 defy the packages because they recognize it's a slap in the face to Israel to tie their fate to the Ukrainian war. Aren't we also tying the border security to the Ukrainian funding? That's exactly right, Glenn. And this is just another example of Joe Biden trying to take things that are politically popular for conservatives, package them together, and then use that to sell the interminable war in Ukraine. Now, by the way, Glenn, if you read the fine print on the alleged border security package, it actually gets much worse. What we're really doing is funding and facilitating Joe Biden's open border. We're sending resources to communities that are housing illegal migrants. We're spending a lot of money to transport migrants from the southern border all
Starting point is 00:36:29 across the country. There's nothing in the package for real border security. So it's not just that it's a political ploy by Joe Biden to call something border security so we can support Ukraine. When you read the fine print, it doesn't even accomplish border security. It's really, really atrocious what this guy is trying to do. And look, I expect it, right? I disagree with Joe Biden. I didn't vote for him. I'm not going to vote for him. What is ridiculous is if Republicans go along with it. So the encouragement I'd make, Glenn, to you, to your audience, because you have a huge audience, and the voters actually have a voice and their representatives to listen to them. Call into D.C. and tell them, divide the packages.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Do not hold up the border and do not hold up Israel's security on Joe Biden's Ukraine war. I got to push back on this one, and I hope you have a good answer. But I, for one, asked my audience to call and be polite. And they called a couple of weeks ago. and Sean Hannity asked his people and Levin and everybody else, we called the House and the Weasel Republicans actually used that as an excuse to not do what we felt were the right things. They said we had these people calling us and saying all kinds of things. I can guarantee you that it was only the odd duck in my audience that would have done that.
Starting point is 00:37:55 They wouldn't have called them names and threatened their family. Maybe that happened, but that is not the American people. That is not the people who support the rule of law and the Constitution. So when you say call the Senate, what is that going to do? Look, Glenn, I understand people have frustrations, but it actually does matter. And here's the thing. These guys were going to be weasily, no matter what people did. They were just looking for an excuse to not do to not do the right thing.
Starting point is 00:38:28 But I guarantee the calls did not hurt Jim Jordan's speaker candidacy. They helped. It's just unfortunately the weasels were going to find a way to kill Jim Jordan's speaker candidacy anyways. It really does matter. Trust me, I sit in these lunches with my colleagues, folks I agree with and disagree with. When they have the American people motivated about an issue, it does affect them and it does matter. We unfortunately, I was one of the first people to endorse Jim Jordan's speaker candidacy. I actually think we got a very good speaker out of this process, assuming Congressman Johnson gets through this afternoon.
Starting point is 00:39:04 So despite the fact that I supported Jim Jordan, it was pretty clear early on that they were never going to let Jim Jordan become the speaker. And it had nothing to do with us calling. In fact, I think calling actually did help us a bit. Okay. So call all of our Republicans. I mean, how many of the, we need all of them and then some Democrats, too, don't we? you know to divide the packages to actually force us to have a separate debate we just need 41 republicans to stand tall and say we're not going to do joe biden's bidding for him we're not going to
Starting point is 00:39:37 accept this combined package a hundred million dollar behemoth uh with by the way a lot of open border funding so so no i i actually think we just need republicans to stick together even if they are pro ukraine funding we need the message to be we're not holding the american southern border and we're not holding Israel's security hostage to the Ukraine war. Yeah. All right. So we don't need all of the Republicans, which helps because you'll never get the Romneys of the world.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Okay. So call your senator. When does this vote go down? It probably won't go down for a couple of weeks here. So it's unclear when leadership will try to move this package. But right now, the fight is to divide it so that we have separate votes. And that's what I'm trying to work towards right now. So call your senator today.
Starting point is 00:40:26 And I know when I ask you that, I know because I would be rolling my eyes. You're in the car and please don't roll your eyes. Keep your eyes on the road. But I would be rolling my eyes as well. I'd be like, oh, really? That's going to help. But we have to do all the things that we can do and then leave the rest of it up to God. Do what you're supposed to do.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Do what the system requires. Don't. And I don't have to say this to you, my audience. Don't do anything stupid. Don't make threats. You only hurt our cause. Hello. January 6th.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Please don't do any of that. I don't mean to insult you in your intelligence on this. But please do call your senator and tell them to separate because you're getting a bogus border bill. Something's wrong with the
Starting point is 00:41:13 administration in there. How can they be sending money over to Israel and then saying, oh, you know, you got to stop. You got to stop. Don't do anything yet. There's something wrong with this. I think it's just an act to get the money to Ukraine. And we're headed towards World War III, and the last thing we should be doing is lumping
Starting point is 00:41:35 all of this together. That's exactly right, Glenn. And by the way, if you have Hamas terrorists who are obviously attacking the Israelis, but are also planning attacks in the United States of America, how does it make sense to facilitate their migration all across the continental United States? You cannot have real border security if you're paying. people to move themselves from the southern border to all across America. That will facilitate an open border and will actually promote acts of terrorism in our country.
Starting point is 00:42:06 I hate to say it, Glenn, because I hate to be alarmist about this stuff. I think we're at the greatest risk of a terrorist attack in this country that we've been in 20 years. I agree. And the reason is Joe Biden has led in a lot of designated terrorists and then paid money to have them flown across the country. We have had, we know we've caught, I think it's 400. people that are on the on the watch list or the terrorist list 400 we've caught how many have
Starting point is 00:42:31 come across that we didn't catch i mean we know that there are people that wish us ill that have come into this country and it's only a matter of time uh and when you see the the streets in these palestinian uh you know marches where they are saying gas the jews gas the jews there's only one solution that's not a group of people or at least a few of the people that are friendly to our country. Those are people that do really bad things. Right, Glenn. And by the way, a lot of these folks came into the country and feel no gratitude towards it and are importing the ethnic and religious hatreds of their old country into the new one. This is why we should have, I really believe this, Glenn, we should have actual screening for people, even legal,
Starting point is 00:43:25 immigrants to come into our country to actually confirm that they share some of our values. And that if we bring somebody from Palestine, for example, they're not going to come here and want to kill Jews and Westerners because of something they were taught in their old country. When you become an American, become an American, or stay out of the country. Amen. I can't believe that that will probably cause you a headache today because it is absolute common sense. J.D. Vance. Thank you so much, sir. Appreciate it. Take care. You bet. Senator J.D. Vents. Please call your senator. Please call your senator and tell them to separate the bills. AI is moving fast across the enterprise.
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