The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program | Guests: Sen. Marco Rubio & Carol Roth | 3/21/24

Episode Date: March 21, 2024

Chaos surrounded the House Oversight Committee hearing with Tony Bobulinski's testimony of the crimes and corruption he claims to have witnessed the Biden family commit. Recovering investment banker C...arol Roth joins to discuss the latest way the government is trying to keep track of your assets. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) joins to discuss the TikTok bill and how it may fare in the Senate. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:59 You're listening to The Best of the Glendbeck program. Let me just take you through a couple. I think just show how bright everybody truly is today. Let's start in Congress. Let's start with Bobbolinsky yesterday telling Congress about Biden and who was the big guy, cut three. Mr. Bobbalinski, who's the big guy? Are you sure about that? Are you sure?
Starting point is 00:02:31 Joe Biden? You're sure? I'm a thousand percent sure. Because when Hunter Biden did his deposition under oath, he said, I don't know who it is, even though he was copied on an email that said, H will hold 10% for the big guy. You search the big guy is Joe Biden? 1,000% and there's other text messages that back that up,
Starting point is 00:02:50 that the brave whistleblowers, Shappley and Ziegler, have produced, not from my phones, not from my Blackberry that I took screenshots from. They took them from subpoenas directly from Apple's eye cloud that back up the fact that Hunter knew the big guy was Joe Biden. The big guy is the brand. the big guy is the lift. The big guy is the one who showed up at golf outings who did took phone calls in meetings and lunches and dinners with Hunter Biden and his business associates. Is that right? Correct.
Starting point is 00:03:18 All right. Let me go to cut nine here. This is Bobbalinski. Why do the Biden's lie? I want to be crystal clear from my direct personal experience and what I've subsequently come to learn. It is clear to me that Joe Biden was the brand being sold by the Biden family. His family's foreign influence pedaling up. from China to Ukraine and elsewhere sold out to foreign actors who are seeking to gain influence and access to Joe Biden and the United States government. Joe Biden was more than a participant in and a beneficiary of his family's business. He was an active, aware, enabler who met with business associates such as myself to further the business, despise being buffered by a complex scheme to maintain plausible deniability. I ask this big question.
Starting point is 00:04:04 And if there's no evidence of corruption here today, if Joe's conduct and the conduct of his family were fully legal and proper, then why are they so dishonest about it? Hmm. I don't know. But Jamie Raskin, the co-chair of the committee, he's a Democrat, he was a little upset that people were saying that, well, he was a liar. Listen.
Starting point is 00:04:32 At the same people preaching this mantra, no better. They continued to lie directly to the American. people without hesitation and remorse. Rep Dan Goldman and Jamie Raskin, both lawyers and Mr. Goldman, a former prosecutor with the SD&Y from New York, will continue to lie today in this hearing and then go straight to the media to tell more lies. Hunter Biden's defense attorney, Abilowell weaponizes letters to Congress to try to smear my name and investigate the cold heart facts.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Mr. Chairman. In an attempt to save his house and the connection, by the client and his father. I challenge Mr. Lowell to make those claims on national television so he can be held accountable for his lies. Prior to my successful business career, I was an officer in the United States Navy. At Navy's elite naval nuclear power training command, I later served as the command's chief technology officer. Please, I apologize for the disruption from the brain. Am I supposed to say it's my time, Mr. Raskett? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:34 But please, Mr. Bob Linsky, please. Come to order. Mr. Boba Litzki, Mr. Bobeliski, please proceed. I apologize for the disruption from the minority. Okay. Well, Mr. Chairman, if he saved his time, but he called members of this committee liars, and I just want to know whether the order and decorum requirements of House Rule 11 apply to witnesses appearing before the committee. Okay, stop for a second. Stop, stop, stop. I got to tell you, what does that mean? What is he trying to say here?
Starting point is 00:06:04 I want to know, because we have a rule, we can't call each other liars. on the record. You're not going to allow him to call. We can call them liars, but they can't call us liars, can they? Well, apparently they can. Here's the rest of the clip. Does it apply or does it not?
Starting point is 00:06:26 He's checking with counsel now. What is he saying? Oh, yeah. Raskin's an idiot. Yeah, he's an idiot. So, no, it doesn't say that. He can call him a liar. There's hard lot.
Starting point is 00:06:38 There's decorum from the members. We've asked for that. there's no language that I'm aware of pertaining to a witness. Thank you. So don't make sure we didn't waste any of his time on the opening statement. Mr. Babelisky, I'm sorry for the disruption. Please continue your open statement. I think you, Mr. Asking, he's right.
Starting point is 00:06:58 We'll make sure it's right. Oh, okay, great. I just want to resstate, make sure the American people hear all these facts. Okay. Now, AOC, she's always good. you know, for a laugh or two. Here she is with Bobolidski yesterday. I believe the fact that he was sitting with me
Starting point is 00:07:20 while I was putting together a business deal. Did you witness the president commit a crime? Is it your testimony today? Yes. And what crime do you have you witness? How much time do I have to go through it? It is simple. You name the crime.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Did you watch him steal something? Corruption statutes, RICO and conspiracy. What is it? What is the crime? crime, sir. Specifically, you keep up, you asked me to answer the question. I answered the question. No. Rico, you're obviously not familiar with corruption status. Excuse me, sir. Excuse me, sir. Excuse me, sir. Rico is not a crime. It is a category. What is the category of crimes that you're then charged? You have charges.
Starting point is 00:08:04 You have charges. You have charges. Sir, please name the exact statute under Rico. Yes. Well, it's funny. In this committee, room. Everyone's not here. There's over 18. All right, sir. I reclaim my... Lawyers that went to law school. Look at it. They are just so... They are so bad.
Starting point is 00:08:22 They are so bad and so desperate. They can't let anybody talk. I mean, it is... It's remarkable that these people can tie their shoes. It really is. They're so... They are so incredibly lost. What evidence do you have?
Starting point is 00:08:42 You have the AOC can tie her shoes. Name the stupidity. Oh, my gosh. Well, you're right. You're right. It is, it's truly remarkable to me that these people are, are even listened to even a little bit. I mean, at any amount, these people are, you know, I read a story last night that talked to, talked about how the students are, suing their school because they couldn't have a drag show. They couldn't have a drag show. Wow.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Really? That's what you found important? The drag show? That's what you're spending your time on? The drag show with everything else that is going on in the world. That's what you deem important. Really? They don't want to talk about the crime that is a result.
Starting point is 00:09:42 a direct result of people like AOC, their stupid reimagining of the police. Didn't seem to work out well, did it? And then she stands by while the man or the woman in her case puts troops in some of the largest cities in America. You have armed troops in your subways and you're not speaking. You're a Marxist. You're not speaking out about that. Did you maybe miss all the sex trafficking because of your open border ideas or the abuse of all of the women who have been raped on their way here because of your brilliant humans can't be illegal stance?
Starting point is 00:10:24 Maybe the deaths of fentanyl for all of those Americans, 100,000 a year. You just, you don't care about that. No, no, no. You don't even mention it from time to time. And I'm kind of surprised because you kind of see. like you're the person or you try to make yourself appear as though you're the person that cares about the plight of the poor and the downtrodden more than any other American. It's just you fighting this fight. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:10:55 You're too busy talking about the crimes of the past while an old rich white guy steals everybody's future by having his son lick the butts of communist dictators and oil oligarchs in Ukraine and Moscow. You don't care. No, no, no. The Bidens are creating jobs. His son is creating jobs for women. Yeah, sure, that result in, you know, being beaten up after the hard day of work, being beaten up by their pimps. Have you missed the fact that China is making fentanyl in Mexico? Selling it to the drug cartels at cost so they can kill people in America, of all races, including the special races that seem. to be the only ones you care about. You don't even care about reporters being jailed anymore. Inflation, borrowing in every hundred days, one trillion dollars, something we can never pay off. I'm trying to figure you liberals out because the CIA and Intel, the five eyes, now are all
Starting point is 00:12:05 collaborating. They're all working together to spy on Americans. while we spy on their citizens and then we swap information? What happened to you guys? You're in bed now with major corporations who are in bed with big government who are only enriching themselves by impoverishing the working class. Is there not a Marxist that cares about the working class anymore? My gosh. You don't care about nuclear.
Starting point is 00:12:40 war. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. For some reason, the liberals are now all pro-war. I don't understand that. I mean, holy cow. What happened to you? Oh, I forget. I forget. That's right. Your your holy order of drag queens show can't be held now. You can't hold a service for that, you know, in a institute of higher learning. My gosh, you people are idiots. Just. incredible idiots. I mean, you are the robber barons of idiots. You are remarkable, really, truly remarkable. Do you guys have one working brain cell?
Starting point is 00:13:27 It's a miracle that the whole lot of you could put your brain cells together and it would amount enough to enough brain cells to get one of you to breathe. My, may I just recommend that all of those on the left and these kids who care so deeply about drag shows, try reading the gods of the copybook headings. See how this all works out? Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot. I forgot. You can't read. You go to school.
Starting point is 00:14:01 You can learn how to march. You can learn how to protest. You can learn how to burn cities down. but you still can't read. Well, you sound out some of the small words, and then when Mommy is finished, you know, demanding that you get a higher grade in class from your professor,
Starting point is 00:14:18 maybe she can come home and read it to you while you eat warm cookies and make yummy noises. Mmm. How do you miss that you're going to all end up eating each other? History's biggest winos, epic losers, insane, insanely stupid, the shareholders of Pets.com and all those who thought BLM Inc. actually cared about people like you. They're all laughing at you. Do you not notice that? Can't you hear that?
Starting point is 00:14:53 That laughter is coming from all of the idiots in history who learned their lesson. My gosh. Despite what your teachers have told you, you're not special. you didn't win that trophy because you deserved it. You're a loser. You lost. And you'll continue to be an epic joke until you realize this and wake up. And if you feel this as a micro-aggression, I'm sorry. I meant it as a macro-aggression.
Starting point is 00:15:21 I'm sorry. Jeez. You are simply a face in the mob of uneducated, self-absorbed children that when all is said and done will be remembered by historians as fascistic monsters. Oh, and idiots. You know that lived-in feeling your house has? Years' worth of kids running around spilling stuff, breaking things. Yeah, it's nice and all, but when it comes to putting your house on the market,
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Starting point is 00:16:59 Now back to the podcast. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening. Carol Roth is joining us, the author of You Will Own Nothing, and You Will Like It, Yaw. She doesn't think you're going to like it that much. Former investment banker Carol Roth, welcome to the program, Carol. Thanks, Glenn. I know I've got a lot of big news today, and I just like to clear up that I am not on the short list for the VP pick for Trump. So just want to get that.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Okay. Just want to get that out. Good. Thank you. I was kind of hoping. but yeah, he turned me down too. Anyway, so let's start with the Fed. The Fed didn't lower rates yesterday.
Starting point is 00:17:47 We've been thinking they were going to, but maybe I read this story wrong, so help me out. But what I read was they're probably going to keep the rates the way they are this year, maybe raise them next year, you know, like after the election. Is that what they said? I think you mean cut them. So the Fed has been very good at telegraphing to the market, at least of late, what it plans to do, at least right before it does or doesn't do something, as was the case yesterday in the last few Fed meetings.
Starting point is 00:18:19 So it was pretty clear on Wall Street. I think it was like a 1% chance of a cut. So we didn't get that cut. Right. What Powell did say is he telegraphed that he does believe there will be cuts coming, that he does think that the interest rates that we're at right now is at the highest level that it will be. So he telegraphed that he doesn't think barring something, you know, going in a very strange direction.
Starting point is 00:18:44 He doesn't think they're going higher. He thinks they're going lower. And there's something that's called the dot plot that comes out, which is the projections of all of the Fed governors and the presidents of the different Fed banks before they all talk. So this is like they're anonymous, like, hey, here's where I think things are going. And they are still telegraphing three rate cuts this year. I think that may be too many. I think it may just be a couple.
Starting point is 00:19:09 But there's one other thing that came out that is also in that kind of accommodative monetary policy stance. So they have two tools to be more accommodative. They can either cut rates or they could go out in the market and they can purchase securities or at least move from what they're doing now, which is they're tightening. They have, as we know, trillions and trillions of dollars on the balance sheet. We were almost up to $9 trillion. They have let about a trillion and a half of that runoff. So they're not selling those.
Starting point is 00:19:43 They're just saying, hey, as those mature, we're not going back in the market and replacing it. What they telegraphed yesterday, which is really important, is we're not going to probably do this. And they haven't discussed it yet, Glenn, but they're going to probably. discuss it at the next meeting, but we don't think we're going to keep doing that. We're not going to let that runoff happen at the same level that we did before. We're going to slow that down. And that is very accommodative as well. So this is another way that they're addressing the issues in the market. And the reason is because of all of this chaos that they want to avoid in the treasury market because we don't have enough people who want to buy U.S. debt at reasonable quote-unquote
Starting point is 00:20:30 interest rates. So wait, so they're not going to buy more debt of our debt or they will. So they had bought up to almost $9 trillion. What they had done over the last couple of years is they have let run off so they have not re-bought about a trillion and a half of that. So, you know, seven and a half trillion, give or take, you know, a couple, what's a couple hundred billion among the friends, right? So they had been using that and they had a cap of about $95 billion, I think it was a month that they were going to do. That's the pace of this runoff.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Well, they're not going to let it run off that much anymore. They're going to probably, you know, they hadn't discussed it yet, but they kind of felt like that's where things were going. And it's just if you go back to, I don't know when it was, probably 20, when Ron Paul in Congress was basically grilling then Fed Chair Ben Bernaggy, who started all of this adding to the balance sheet. And he said, where's the balance sheet going to go, Ben? And he's like, well, I think it'll go back down under a trillion dollars. Well, guess what? Wah, want, wah.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Basically, Jerome Powell said, yeah, that's not going to happen anymore. And that is an accommodative piece, a loosening of the current stance of monetary policy. So how do we survive with the loosening of monetary policy from the Fed just taking on more debt, us taking on more debt and this new Biden budget, which is eye-popping? Yeah. So the Fed is at the current time is at least saying they're not taking on any more debt. They're just not going to let it run off quite as quickly. They're just going to keep what they have for now. The funny thing is, as they move.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Right, yeah, it's fantastic. So the funny thing here, this is a little bit backward thinking, but as they loosen policy, if they were to lower interest rates, it actually helps us out because we have such huge deficits that need to be financed. And the higher the interest rate is, the more interest that we have to pay, and the more inflation ultimately that is going to create. basically the Fed and the government have been fighting against each other. And instead of just coming out and saying, listen, Congress, listen, Biden, we need you guys to get your acts together. We're trying
Starting point is 00:23:08 to do something to save the country and you need to do your part. There's a lot of dancing around this issue. And the funny thing is, we've had all these letters coming from the progressives, from the Bernie Sanders and the Elizabeth Warrens saying you've got to lower interest rates because of climate projects and things like that. Well, guess what, guys, you're in Congress, you're in charge of the budgets and the purse strings. How about you just stop spending? And then we wouldn't be in the position we were in today. Okay. So there's another story from FinCEN. Now, FinCEN is the criminal arm of the Treasury Department. Well, I shouldn't say it that way. All of it seems to be criminal, but these are the ones that go after money laundering and things like this.
Starting point is 00:23:58 These are the ones that now small businesses, if you have under 20 employees, you have to register with them so they know you're not a criminal. It's crazy. There's more now dropping on FinCEN? Yes. So this Corporate Transparency Act Beneficial Ownership Information Rule that we've been talking about with FinCEN, the financial crimes, and enforcement. Network Department of the Treasury, as you noted. Congress gave them all of this authority
Starting point is 00:24:28 under this rule. And the first thing they decided to do is we're going to make a database of all small business owners if you have an LLC, if you have an S corp, whatever it is, as long as there is an entity around it. So if solopreneurs haven't registered with their Secretary of State, they wouldn't be included. But if you have an entity, because they're trying to go after those money launderers and those cartel people, who you know are the first people who are we're going to register with Vincent. So we've been talking about this. I've been sending a lot of information to many of your listeners and people are really starting to understand what's going on here. But they've decided to do something else. So now they said, well, we also feel like we need to go
Starting point is 00:25:09 after residential real estate transfers under the Corporate Transparency Act. So basically, if you have a property in your family, that, you know, it could be a home, it could be a farm, It could be a vacation home. And you transfer that to somebody else in your family or otherwise via a trust. And there is no financing involved in that. You're not getting a loan. Nobody's paying a piece. It's just a gift transfer.
Starting point is 00:25:36 They would also like for you to register that now because we've given them an inch. Why? Why? Because they want to make sure, Glenn, that the cartels and the money launderers aren't parking their money. in their homes. Because again, if you're a money launderer or you're someone in the cartel, I'm sure you're going to be very forthcoming about your beneficial ownership information. So again, now we have this, this is a proposed rule. So I'm going to tell everyone now, I'm going to put up a letter later today on Twitter. I want you guys to copy it and comment on it
Starting point is 00:26:13 because we have until April 16th. But this will basically say if you're somebody who's involved in real estate transactions, so you're a real estate attorney, you are, perhaps somebody involved in the closing process, you are now going to have to collect information, not only on the person who is selling the property, but who it is being transferred to. You're going to have to alert FinCEN. You're going to have to keep records. So this not only violates privacy, it's going to create a ton of fees and it's going to create issues for anybody who's in that business.
Starting point is 00:26:44 And it really seems to me, I don't know. So if I want to, if I wanted to transfer the property, to my wife. Right. I would now have to alert, and they're going to do what with that information? What does that mean for me? Yes. So that means that during your closing process to affect this transfer, that the people
Starting point is 00:27:09 who are involved, the attorneys, somebody involved with the closing, is going to say, hi, I have to report lots of information to FinCEN. So now you're going to give me all kinds of information on who you are. who your wife is and all of this invasive information so that FinCEN can create a database on that to go after. There you go. Yes. There you go. That's what I'm asking for. Why are they keeping track of people's assets? Is that to eventually seize them? To tax them? This is where you and I are going in the same direction. So now we have a database of people who own small business entities. Then they want to start with real estate. And I understand it's just transfers at first.
Starting point is 00:27:56 But if you think that it's cashless transfers and it's not going to stop at that when we've already now leaked from small business entities to residential real estate cashless transfers, we know where this is going next. So it seems to me in the spirit of you will own nothing that they really want to know where all your assets are. And if you go back to the bigger thesis of the fact that we do not have enough money in the government that they're really, receiving in order to pay their debts and to continue to sustain things like their Social Security Ponzi schemes and all of these promises that they've made, it seems to me they want to know what are the value of all of these assets? Because wouldn't that be interesting if they could
Starting point is 00:28:36 come after those and find a way to seize or tax or whatever those assets to help pay for all of the spending? It is all very much connected and this absolutely has to be stopped. You're listening to The Best of Glenbeck. Check out the full show podcast to listen to the rest of this interview. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. So a couple of days ago, I tweeted out or went on X and wrote, The House just passed a bill that could lead to a TikTok ban. It's no secret China is using TikTok to divide and spy on America.
Starting point is 00:29:13 That's why I was happy when Blaze Media deleted the app. But are we about to give away more of our friends? freedom in the name of national security. I wasn't sure on which side I fell on. That's why I did the show last night on Blaze TV, and I had two people, Thomas Massey and Chip Roy, debate it. And I think I'm very clear on where I stand now, but it's in the hands of the Senate. And Marco Rubio's office saw that that tweet and asked if he could come on and maybe clear things up on what's happening in the Senate and where he stands. Senator Marco Rubio, welcome to the program. Well, actually, I wanted to try to convince you to move to Florida.
Starting point is 00:30:01 That's the problem. Everybody's moving to Florida. Have you seen the prices of houses? Holy cow. It's a great place. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So where do you stand on this? Well, I've been calling for this since 2019, but I want to explain why. First of all, let me just say that having a debate about this is a good thing. I mean, we don't do that enough. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:30:25 I mean, this idea that we're going to ban a company from operating in the United States is not something we take lightly. That's an extraordinary amount of power you put it in the hands of the government. We've done it. We did it to Huawei, right? We did it to, we don't want Chinese telecommunication companies. operating in the U.S. because we know they pose a security risk. Whether there's evidence they're doing it or not, the capability to do it is unacceptable. So let me tell you what we know
Starting point is 00:30:48 for a fact, okay? We know for a fact that China wants to become the world's most powerful country and part of that strategy is to destroy America from the inside out, not just from the outside in, but from the inside out. And part of that is narrative to distract us, you know, convince, put Americans to fight against each other. We do a good enough job as it is because were free people, but they would exacerbate that, you know, spreading all kinds of disinformation to divide us against each other, but also to further Chinese objectives. So, for example, convince us that it's a good thing that things are made in China because they're cheaper. And so, you know, drive that those narratives and so forth. We know that for a fact. We also know
Starting point is 00:31:29 that TikTok, the app, because the issue's not the app, the issue is not what people are saying on the app. The issue is that that app and what drives the videos you see, what makes TikTok so successful, is the AI artificial intelligence algorithm that literally reads your mind. The more you use it, the more it learns what you like, the more it knows what you like before you even know you like it. And so this is a very valuable algorithm. That algorithm is not owned by TikTok. That algorithm belongs to a company named ByteDance. And ByteDance and all of their engineers are headquartered in China. like every company in China
Starting point is 00:32:04 they have to do whatever the government of China tells them to do it doesn't matter who's on their board it doesn't matter who the shareholders are China has a national security law that basically says straight out if we tell you you have to do give us data use your algorithm this way you have to do it they don't have a choice
Starting point is 00:32:22 okay billionaire Jack Ma the richest man of China tried to test one day and argued well you know I'm Jack Ma I'm the richest person in China I'm a lot of to have opinions. He disappeared for 30 days. He no longer lives in China, and he was reminded that no. So we know that they want to divide our country. We know that they want to, and so, and we know that a company that has to do whatever their government tells them to do,
Starting point is 00:32:47 controls an algorithm that in a moment of crisis or leading up to a crisis, for example, could be weaponized against us very quickly by driving messages to convince us. Call your member of Congress and tell them not to support tariffs because that means you're going to have to pay more for the clothes you buy, the cheap stuff you buy at Walmart or Amazon or even on Sheen or one of these Chinese websites and so forth. Well, look at what they did with the message of Osama bin Laden. All of a sudden, out of nowhere, all of these videos appeared of all these kids, Americans, saying, you know, I just read Osama bin Laden's manifesto, and I think he was right. you know, I think America, and, you know, they won't allow this exact device or algorithm in China on their own people.
Starting point is 00:33:38 They are using it against us already. Right. And so the issue with that algorithm is not just that the video is there, but that the video is, you're going to see it. And then they know how to target it, right? So they know who to target it at. Yes. So whatever the issue may be, it's a weapon. I would say that we know that the Chinese, for example, want to hack our power plants.
Starting point is 00:33:58 and they work every single day to get accesses to our power plants. They're not doing it. They're not going to shut off our power today, but we know they're sitting there waiting to do it, just like they have missiles that are aimed at the United States. They're not launching them, but they plan to if there's a war. And so if we know that a threat exists, we have to address it. And so the threat here is not TikTok per se, although that's what we call it,
Starting point is 00:34:20 because that's the company, that's the public, it's the algorithm. And so what I believe is my goal. My goal is to ensure that no matter who owns that algorithm, it cannot be a company that is subject to the national security law of China. And basically, let's do with the Chinese tell them. It doesn't have to be owned by an American, doesn't have to be owned by someone we like, doesn't have to be owned by someone we agree with. But that's my goal.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Now, some of the arguments that are used, can this, you know, if you write a law that way, or that's what the goal of law is, then you can't weaponize that against. Look, I have huge problems with the way Google operates. They've discriminated against me, I believe, during my campaign. I know they did. I have huge problems with a concentration of power. in the hands of big tech in America. But the answer to that problem, which includes allowing us to be able to sue these companies
Starting point is 00:35:05 because they have editorial control over stuff. They're not just the forum. They control what messages get out, what messages don't. They censor things like the New York Post story about Hunter Biden's laptop. Okay, they should be able to be sued for that, not be, that's the answer to that problem. But the answer to that problem is not to say, well, until we solve that, we can't deal with the fact that a foreign adversary, the most powerful foreign adversary, we have. ever faced in the case of China controls an algorithm that drives the fastest growing social media
Starting point is 00:35:36 platform in America. That's not the answer to the problem of Google and Facebook and meta and all that stuff. So the way the House bill is written, the government could claim, the president could claim that Tucker Carlson is a is is publishing russian propaganda and i heard people actually say this that he was controlled by russia i mean the way the house bill is written it leads me to believe that if you could get enough people to believe that uh in Washington then you could you could ban him as an agent or being controlled by russia let me say first and foremost that that that if I think this law will probably be amended or changed, and some of the things that people will look at or any potential vulnerabilities, because frankly we now live in an era, we have to assume the worst.
Starting point is 00:36:29 No, we should have, but you have to assume the worst that any word you write in legislation could be misused now or in the future. So obviously that's not the intent, and so that's the effort. The second thing I would argue, and this is an important distinction, is we're not even saying that, we're not banning videos on TikTok that are pro-China. People will continue to be able to put any posts they want on TikTok. that's not what the law would ban. What the law would ban is ownership of the algorithm by a company controlled by a foreign adversary, meaning that the algorithm is controlled by a foreign adversary.
Starting point is 00:37:02 So no matter who is it, whether it's Tucker or anybody else, they have a First Amendment right to whatever opinion they have, and people can continue to use TikTok. If bike dance sells to somebody else, this law does not ban people going on TikTok and saying, we think China's better than America. We can criticize them for doing it. That's what the First Amendment allows me to do in return, but it wouldn't ban pro-China messaging.
Starting point is 00:37:25 And the reason, again, it's the algorithm that we're aiming at here, not that. And so the other thing is that the law the way it's written is that it has to be domiciled. You know, it has to be domiciled. And the ownership is to be domiciled in a foreign country, and not just a foreign country, but a foreign adversary. But I'm more than happy to narrow this down to the Chinese. In essence, I'm more than happy to narrow this down to, say, companies, subject to the national security law of the Communist Party of China.
Starting point is 00:37:53 I mean, because I think that's what we're aiming at here. Yeah, I think that would do. The most narrow that you can make it, because I just don't want more power going to the government, and you're right, they will find ways to use it against Americans. I mean, look at Sisa. Sisa is being used against us now, and they're not, they should be going after things like TikTok, et cetera, et cetera. And instead, they're operating and gathering information on Americans.
Starting point is 00:38:26 That's, it's not what we thought we were getting with Sissa. But just to tell you, what laws on the books or weapons have not properly structured, look at the state in New York. Look what a judge in New York is doing. Yeah, I know. Basically saying, if Donald Trump can't come up with $400-something million, you don't even have a right to appeal a decision I made. This guy apparently now is a property.
Starting point is 00:38:46 We began this interview by you talking about the price of property in Florida, you know, and this guy thinks moral law goes only worth, you know, whatever, I don't know, 9, 10 million, whatever he's got some ridiculous number. But that's a law in New York, in the state of New York that's being weaponized for political purposes. We saw, you know, so I think that we live in this era where we realize that there are people whose hunger and thirst for power allows them to break every barrier, across every guardrail that we've ever had in respect for our republic. So I have no problem with being as paranoid as possible on how we write this law.
Starting point is 00:39:19 But we have to deal with this issue of this threat that we face from China because it is a real threat. Their goal is to destroy the United States of America. Yeah. So since you brought up Donald Trump, there is a news story that broke today that you are on the very, very short list to be his running mate. Is that true? Do you know about it? would you want to be his running mate? Well, first of all, let me tell you, anybody who gets a chance to serve as Vice President
Starting point is 00:39:49 United States should consider that an honor. I have never spoken either to President Trump or anybody on his campaign about this or anybody else that they're considering for Vice President. You know, the reason I'm in public service and the reason why I even ran for re-election and, you know, it's a six-year contract you sign when you come here is I still, I want to save this country. I love this country with all my heart. It changed the life of my family and the trajectory of my family.
Starting point is 00:40:13 I mean, I'm not saying that people whose families were born here don't love the country this well. But when your parents came from somewhere else, you realize that, but for the grace of God and the existence of America, how different my life would have been. And I think this country's in a lot, a lot of trouble. I mean, not just bad policy decisions, but existential threats to our very nature as a republic and all things that made America special. And it's not just political. It's also cultural. And so I have a lot of work to do here in the Senate. But like I said, I've never talked to them about it. What I do know is that unlike the Democrats, President Trump will have a lot of good options available to him, and I'm confident he's going to make the perfect and right choice, but I've never talked to them about it. How concerned are you that this election, it just doesn't add in madness.
Starting point is 00:41:00 I mean, from either side, I don't know how you're going to, if it's close, I don't know how you're going to get either side to say, yep, that was fair. Well, and I think you have to look at all of these other things that are being done. I mean, we have people, Peter Navarro is going to jail. I know. But some gang members of Venezuela is released on bond and may never even be charged, right? That's what we have to now see is that this is not just a political talking point. I mean, we have seen their hatred for Donald Trump, their hatred. Okay, that's what this is.
Starting point is 00:41:37 It's hatred and derangement about Donald Trump. Trump has caused them to do things that stretched the bounds of anything anybody thought was possible. I mean, if I had described to you four years ago and said, okay, they're going to, you know, former president, the leading candidate is going to face two federal indictments, including one in D.C., where there's no way you're going to get a jury that isn't going to be unfriendly to Donald Trump. Plus, state prosecutors like one in Georgia, one in New York are going to try to bankrupt him. The other is going to try to put him in jail.
Starting point is 00:42:09 In addition to that, they're going to go after everyone that ever work for him and try to bankrupt them. I just describe these things. And plus, you're going to have supposedly serious people trying to actually remove him from the ballot, things that they're going to impeach him twice, including once after he's out of office. You would have said, that's not possible. That's not going to happen. I mean, that's too much even for them. All of that has happened.
Starting point is 00:42:28 We're living all of that right now. This is a derangement, and it caused, derangement causes people to do things they wouldn't normally do, are you would think, but their thirst and lust for power allows them to justify anything they do. And I think they don't like him because he is pro-America. You know, let's focus on America, America first, and that can't be had by many people on the left and in the Democratic Party. Mark, Mark, Rubuil, thank you very much. Yeah, okay. Next interview, I'll tell you why they really don't like them.
Starting point is 00:42:59 And because I think it's an important point, so. Okay. Well, can you, I'm out of time on the network. 15 seconds, what I would tell you is that. Go, go, go, go. The other day where he said that about the bloodbath, they liked it when Republicans would use a term like that, which is not offensive in any way,
Starting point is 00:43:17 and then the next day, apologize, and they would say, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say it that way. I chose my words. They liked those Republicans. True. They don't like the Republicans. True. No, I meant Bloodbath. Here's what it says in the dictionary,
Starting point is 00:43:27 and everyone knows clearly what I was saying, and you guys are playing a game. They hate that he does that. They hate it. Please come on again. Marco Rubio, thank you very much. Love talking to you. Bye-bye.
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