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Episode Date: June 19, 2024

Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) joins to share his thoughts on President Trump’s candidate endorsements for Utah. Marco Polo founder and chairman Garrett Ziegler joins to dig through the Marco Polo report on Hunter Biden’s infamous laptop. James Poulos, Blaze Media editor at large and BlazeTV host of “Zero Hour,” joins to discuss the terrifying story of how environmentalists are using embryos to power supercomputers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We talk about everything, your money, the deficit, what's causing the CBO yesterday to come out and say, oh, yeah, we're going to have to add another, you know, almost half a trillion dollars to this year's debt. The businesses that are going out, 25% faster rate than last year. But what's causing all of this? Inflation, what's causing that? We talk about it. Also, Mike Lee joins me to talk about the difference, the differences that we need to look for in our candidates, especially in the primaries. You know, are you going to be a radical, and go with these radical Republicans,

or are you going to go with a rhino? We talk about that as well. And Garrett Ziegler joins us. He's from Marco Polo. He wrote the report on the Biden laptop, which is just the facts, ma'am. And he talks to us about what's coming in September, a huge trial that actually gets to the meat

of the business of the Bidens. Also, in our number three of today's, James Polis joins us, there is a new advancement in technology where we're running out of power for AI. We need to find power. Well, the good news is they're harvesting embryos for their stem cells to make organoids to power AI.

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Yesterday, I was called by a newspaper, and I was asked to comment on, you know, the split in the Republican Party. And I said, what split in the Republican Party? You want to talk about a split? Look at the Democrats. Right now, we're in primaries. And of course, there's splits during primaries. But they're trying to pit Republicans against Donald Trump and everything else. And I tried to make the point.

Nobody's against each other. When in primaries, sure. But once the primaries decided, we're all on the same side. We have to be. But President Trump has just announced his endorsement for a primary for a congressperson in Utah. Mike Lee joins me now. this this congresswoman she's a she's a wonderful person you know celeste maloy is her name she's fine she i think she talks a good game on the constitution but she is somebody that was filling in for

chris stewart after he had to leave um and now she's being asked to be uh elected full time she voted for the first omnibus the second omnibus the n d aaaa voted for fiza and i think it was speaker Johnson that convinced Donald Trump to endorse her. Mike Lee joins me now. Hi, Mike. Hello, Glenn. Good to be with you. Thank you. Thank you. So what are your thoughts on this? First of all, there's no problem. There's no split between you or me and Donald Trump. Would you agree with that? Absolutely. 100%. As you point out, people are going to back different candidates and elections. One of the things you've got to look at it is there

bases for information. Who knows the candidates better? And what might have influenced that decision? In this situation, Donald Trump shows a different candidate. Now, look, not at all surprising that House Republican leadership, Speaker Mike Johnson, might want the incumbent to be reelected. That is almost as sure as the sun rising in the east that House Republican leadership will try to back the incumbent. Trumpin should be surprising to no one. And based on the timing, it appears that Speaker Mike Johnson almost certainly influenced Trump's

thinking on this. He was down there at exactly the same moment. I think he was spotted at Marlago within moments of when this endorsement announcement came out. And so, yeah, look, that happens. And of course he would want that. She's a reliable vote for him. but this is yet another example of why we need to look very carefully at who holds those

leadership positions in Congress. In any effect, this doesn't change one iota about the fact that we need a conservative fighter, we need a hero, we need somebody who will stand up for the Constitution, we will need somebody who doesn't give a rip about what the GOP leaders in Congress, what I call the firm, the law firm of Schumer, McConnell, Johnson, and Jeffries says about how they should vote in Congress. Colby Jenkins is that man. We need Colby Jenkins, who is a true constitutional conservative. He's a green beret veteran. He is somebody who will push back against the firm, the swamp, and the Unip Party and stand for the Constitution. So in talking to this reporter,

and I'm waiting to see the story. It was supposed to come out today, I thought, but it hasn't. I'm anxious to see how it is framed because especially in Utah, I said, you know, in Maine, in Minnesota, I can understand that you have to go for a more, quote, moderate, which would mean another Mitt Romney. But you cannot expect that in Utah. How is it extreme in Utah for a constitutional conservative? Okay. Just even, I don't care if you're even liberal. All the liberals from Utah should be constitutionalist.

That state, I mean, that state is one of the most red, white, and blue states ever, and its main faith for decades taught the Constitution and taught about the importance of it and how we need to stand up for it. And when the Constitution is hanging by a thread, how could you possibly go for a rhino and call the guy or the people that are trying to stand up and say, no, the answer is restoring our founding documents and restoring order to those founding documents. How could that be extreme in a conservative state? Well, it's extreme because people who call themselves moderates are improperly using that term.

I don't think they understand what that term means. Glenn, what is extreme is a $35 trillion debt that people add to in Congress at a rate of $2 trillion a year? What is extreme is a government that makes you work months out of every year just to pay your federal taxes and then requires you to comply with a Byzantine labyrinth of federal regulations. acted by men and women not of their own choosing, not elected lawmakers contrary to the Constitution. What's extreme is a government that uses FISA 702 to engage in a warrantless backdoor searches on the American people. Those things are extreme. So those people who call themselves moderates back up that system, back up the uniparty and the firm.

And then they call themselves moderates. Shame on them. But this is why I support Kobe Jenkins. Anyone within the sound of my voice who agrees ought to go to Colbyforutot.com and support Colby Jenkins. Those living in Utah in the second congressional district should vote for Colby Jenkins. We need Colby Jenkins in Congress. And this is nothing against Donald Trump or anything else.

I have no problem with Donald Trump. Donald Trump, and I've heard this from so many people, he doesn't know all of the, he can't keep up with all the people running for Congress. everything else. And this one was brought on, I firmly believe, by our speaker of the house, Mike Johnson, who is, I don't know what he is. I don't know what he is, but he is not what he presented himself as by any stretch of the imagination. And he is the new Mitch McConnell, just in the house. You know, this has got to end. We, this has got to end. We, have done the rhino thing over and over and over again and it hasn't gotten us anywhere except into deeper debt and more problems restoring the law and order that stems only from the

constitution of the united states the bill of rights and declaration of independence that is the solution and everyone in a conservative state should know that um and that's right and whether they call themselves conservatives or not, if they believe in the U.S. Constitution, and if they believe that our federal laws need to be made only by men and women of our own choosing, that is, those elected to Congress, not by unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats, if they believe they shouldn't be spied on without a warrant, if they believe that they shouldn't have to work months of every year to pay their federal taxes and still be $35 trillion in debt, then they should be behind the Constitution because the Constitution is the only answer. I don't fault Donald

Trump one iota one ounce of this is not his fault he was given information that information was what he relied on and unfortunately the people who gave him that information made a critical error this is why we need new leadership in congress and that starts by electing colby jenkins to the utah second congressional district okay um we got to do this one person at a time and this is happening and you know especially in conservative states if you know there are constitutionalist running do not allow them to paint those people as extremist since when has the bill of rights and the idea that we are a democratic republic that democracy happens on voting day and then the republic kicks in and represents us. We're representative republic. Since when has being a republic been

controversial? It's not. So stop allowing people to paint you at when did you just when they say this, I'm sorry. My belief in the Bill of Rights and the Constitution and Declaration of Independence is is extreme. Well, I know I haven't changed. When did you change? When did you change? When did you you stop believing those things? Look, the most extreme thing about our government is that it is

too big, it is too expensive, it is too intrusive, and it recognizes very few limits on its authority. That is extreme. Now, oddly enough, the people who love that nonsense, the people who love to make people

subjects rather than citizens are the ones using the E-word and they should turn it right back on themselves. And if they won't, we'll do it for them and we'll elect people like Colby Jenkins to commerce to get it done. Mike, this is Pack, Ray. We're in an era of not being able to even point out the fact that we have a commander in chief who can't even get through a sentence anymore.

And then we're told that that's some kind of cheap fake or deep fake. How do the American people respond to this? How can we get it through to our friends? and relatives that we see this guy disintegrating right before our very eyes. And the only thing we can expect are our bad policies and bad candidates. If we don't wake up and do something about this. I have never been for removing somebody just because I don't like them or anything else. This is different than impeachment for the crimes that I believe have been committed.

this is the guy is not capable in emergency situations of processing things. Yesterday, he had a breakdown on stage that was terrifying. How do we deal with it, Mike? First of all, in response to past question, we do have to rule out the possibility that he might have learned Greek or some other insured language that we know nothing about. I mean, that was a possibility. I mean, it could have.

happen. As for the phrases, he might just be receiving some sort of telecommunications that we can't understand. Or maybe he's speaking in tongues. Is that a possibility? That's a possibility. Yeah. That could happen. But if neither of those is the case, then we really are in 25th Amendment territory. Yeah. And we're also in the territory where we've got a government where the people doing the maneuvering aren't the people elected to do that job, which is the main problem we've got in the executive, in the legislative branch, we've delegated it all to the executive branch. And that's the guy running the executive branch apparently can't find his way off of a stage. And so this is really troubling. That's why this election matters so much. And that's why every vote you count, especially for federal

office right now, because that's where the government is most broken is in Washington, D.C. Make sure every one of them counts. And that's why you've got to study these candidates carefully and look for the candidate that most faithfully scrutinizes each and every decision by government to make sure that it comports

with the Constitution. And that's why he supports Colby Jenkins. I expected you to say that at the very end. Colbyforututot.com. Colbyforutt.com. That's where you can support it. Thank you so much.

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So join me. Make the switch today. 972 Patriot or Patriotmobile.com slash Beck. Now back to the podcast. Garrett Ziegler is with us. He is the founder of Marco Polo and the chairman. Marco Polo is a 501c3. In fact, you can find it at Marco Polo 501c3.org.

And they have put together the report on the Biden laptop. This is something that, you know, I bought two copies of. In fact, I bought just another two copies just the other day. And one of those copies is for the vault, our history vault, because this is the truth from the laptop. There's no opinion in this. This is just all of the stuff from the laptop. And a lot of it is really disgusting.

but the important stuff is about the money, the money from oligarchs and the business, if you will, that Joe Biden certainly had nothing to do with. Welcome, Garrett. How are you? Thank you very much for having me on. I'm honored that you'd say it was for a time capsule. That was part of our goal. Yeah, well, I think there was one other book that I've purchased here recently in the last year that also I felt belonged in the time capsule or the vault.

And it's very rare that I do that. But this is the actual truth. There's no opinion. There's nothing. Historians will be able to look back on this and go, what the hell were they thinking? Because it's pretty obvious. That made Hunter's wife's flare up outside of the courtroom two weeks ago at me

so much, you know, that much more ridiculous. I'm not sure if you saw this. It was a minor story that her, his wife, his second wife, Melissa Cohen, who he married after six days, called me a Nazi outside of the courtroom. And it's funny because, you know, I was just a member of the public there. I didn't say one word to them. I had my hands in my lap the entire time. And the reason why it's so ridiculous is because, like you say, the report does not

editorialize much. It's just screenshots from videos. It takes screenshots of emails. You know, what we are doing essentially is digital archaeology. What I mean by that is when we say Hunter solicited a prostitute, it's not enough for us just to say that we find a Venmo email notification and then corroborate that with a photo using the metadata embedded within that photo. So it's really police work, honestly. And it's not that glamorous, but I find it fun.

I got to tell you, it's a dark, dark laptop. And first they tried to deny it. Then they tried to get you to stop. They sued you and said that you were illegally hacking into the laptop, which any truth? How did that work out for them? Any truth to that? Absolutely not. It's all ridiculous.

and even about Hunter got Winston's drawn, one of the most prominent law firms in America, to sign off on it, partly because they just want Kevin Morris's cash, although we're hearing that may be drying up soon. But we were sued by both Hunter in September, but then also last May, his caveman-looking sugar brother,

the guy with the deep pockets, who's been funding all these legal misadventures, sued me for doxing. Of course, it was disembarked, dismissed, but he's appealing that in the California Appellate Corps. And I think they know in their souls are just lashing out, but their goal is to try to dry us up resource-wise, right? Right. So it's a quintessential slap. I'm sure you faced them. It's a strategic lawsuit against public participation. It is disgusting. And they even tried to get the IRS to stop allowing you to use a 501-3-6. status, correct?

I laugh just because they basically thrown the kitchen sink at us. Abby Lowell has now, we're going on 17 months, basically tried everything, went to the IRS, that failed. I was the witness for the mother of Hunter's child in Arkansas before

that case was settled, about four months before the case was settled, and the litigation was still ongoing, she realized that this weird young guy, I'm referring to myself, went through the device and said, well, he knows more about Hunter's finances than anyone. And so she had me as a witness, and that made them blow a gasket.

So they tried to get me removed from the case and that failed. So again, my motives are very clear. They like you, my only concern is Joe, but they think that I have this vendetta against Hunter, whereas I look at Hunter as a tragic, cheap family's name. But my focus has always been on Joe. there was this ridiculous profile in the Washington Post about our group last September, and it says that I'm going after Hunter Biden. Nothing can be further from the truth.

I'm not going after Hunter Biden. I think that this story, like you said, is one of the most incredible of the 21st century because it shows the length that Joe went to collect that. It is, yeah, it is, you know, someday, again, historians will look back on this evidence, and they'll say, what the hell happened here? How did this, how was this not evident to everyone? And the answer is the cover up. And the cover up is always worse than the actual information.

And that's hard to say that the cover up will be worse than the crime because this crime that I believe happened and is, you know, your book shows a lot of the evidence. Um, uh, it's hard to beat this crime, but the cover up is just distorting everything in America and rotting us to the core. That's a great point you make. I've never thought of it like that, but I think it's spot on that usually the cover up is worse. But I, you can say that the cover up this time is commensurate with the severity of the yes. It is. For the United States. Um, there's, there's so many threads to pull here. You mentioned in the opening of the Watergate scandal, and I agree with you completely.

I think it was a third-rate burglary, but I was watching, because I'm a, because I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I was watching this cheerleading interview they did with Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein over the weekend. I think it was with Jonathan Carl. All three of them are contemptible scoundrels. And the way they gloat over, over this. small third-rate burglary, vis-a-vis the foreign oligart connections and verified lies. It is disgusting. I think that would be, as a kid say, one of the greatest black pills is that they have been milking this Watergate bonanza for 50 years, Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward.

I mean, by themselves, they're just standard reporters. there's nothing special about them, but because they toppled Nixon, they've been revered as sort of saints. And, you know, they were our, they were my age when they put the water, they were both 28 when they put the Watergate store together. I think Carl was 29. But essentially, you mean, the way Jonathan Carl was talking about them, you think they were like bishops in the Catholic Church of journalism. Yes. It was just so, so disgusting to hear. And yet, like you said, it doesn't even compare.

Yeah. Well, I mean, it still was, I mean, I still think it was impeachable and everything else. But they've lost any, any platform they should have had because of that by now selectively not coming in and saying, well, no, this is no big deal. You know, you can't be a hero unless you take on your own side as well. Can't. Can't root out corruption if it's only. halfway. Yes, and that's one of the ironies of them labeling us. They want us to be labeled a, you know, a Trumpist organization. But we actually spend more time in this report talking about Republicans. For example, here's one tidbit that came out during our research. Of the 51 former spooks who signed the letter on October 19, 2020, there are more.

more Republicans on that list than Democrats. And most people haven't touched on that. That list is a who's who of establishment Republicans that went all in for Joe. So that's another wrinkle to this. And there are so

many instances within the laptop of influence peddling with Republicans. I mean, Hunter was good friends with Strom Thurman's son-in-law who's a big Republican lobbyist in D.C. And, you know, that was Joey's brain. for 36 years in the Senate.

This is a bipartisan guy. So the laptop is not just, oh, a Republican, you know, hitting stick. It's, it is an indictment of the entire, you know, party. And all we try to do was bring specificity to that. And, you know, I'm not sure if your listeners know this, but they can go and download and view all 128,000 emails from. the device at Bidenlaptopemales.com for free. And that's one of the things driving Hunter and his attorneys up a wall is we've done all this sort of as a charity as it, you know, for free.

There's no barrier to entry. Anybody with an internet connection can go to Bidenlaptopemales.com and search my keyword. And so they can fact check you and I in real time as we talk about this. So when I talk about, you know, Venmo notifications for prostitute and drug purchases, is, you know, people don't have to take my word for it. You can go to Bidenlaptopemails.com, and I think that's one of the cool things we've done

is now that Julian Assange is tragically in the pin for no good reason, they have, they hate that we're sort of a mini version of wiki leaks for the laptop. That's really what they're trying to do, and they hate that. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. James Polis joins us now. He is the Blaze Media Editor at Large, and the Blaze TV host of Zero Hour.

He is also the founder and editor, our editorial director of Return, which is a new vertical on theblaze.com. We have several different things that we're working on, and one of them is Return, just like on your keyboard when you hit Return. It's all about tech. He wrote a story that is one of the more disturbing,

dystopian stories, and we've done our homework on this to some degree, enough to go, oh, no, this is actually in practice and being used by the University of Michigan right now. This is not some, you know, someday. And it's a little bit like the matrix. Environmentalists are worried about how do we make enough power to be able to power AI? I. Well, they have found a way called organoids. Wait until you hear this. James is with us now. Hello, James.

Hey, Glenn. How are you? Well, that's better before I read your story on organoids. Yeah, I know. This is bizarre and terrifying. Yeah, it's really disturbing. And it's been around for a little while, but it's really starting to kick into gear. As you said, you know, AI consumes a ton of electricity, a lot of energy. You know, environmentalists have always hated nuclear power for pretty perverse reasons, I think. And so they're so afraid of using nuclear power that what's in vogue now is turning to us to be the batteries. Just take those stem cells out of embryos or out of the lab, sometimes even out of tumors, turn them into brain cells, basically, and use those as batteries to power.

what they're calling bioprocessors. They say it'll use about a million times less power than a typical digital processor. And that's a good thing, they say. You can access them remotely. And this is the new hype. You know, it's from the same folks who brought you the idea of going to carbon zero, net zero carbon use. They look at human beings as a waste of space, a waste of energy, and they want to harness that to run AI that's supposed to be smarter than anyone can understand.

So on Final Spark's website, this is the company that's doing this, they link to a daily mail article that says organoids are tiny self-organized three-dimensional tissue cultures made from stem cells. Stanford's website says stem cells come from two sources, embryonic stem cells. And then, you know, that's unused embryos and they are then donated to cell. science or adult stem cells, but those are really limited and can only generate certain types of cells. So they also say, Final Spark's website says, these organoids live for about 100 days. So are we harvesting embryos, using them to power a supercomputer for 100 days and then killing them and looking for more embryo stem cells? Well, right. So, you know, if you're if you're uncomfortable with IFV, this stuff is going to drive nuts.

There's an extra category of stem cells that they've created called induced pluripotent cells. And basically what you do is you start the embryonic process, but you arrest it before it gets too far. And then you harvest the stem cells out of this artificially induced embryonic organism, right, human organism. And then you create a fork and you just grow those cells, you know, sort of in the way that they grow, fake meat cells, you know, it's, it's really akin to cancerous cells in the way that they grow. And right, so this is something that, you know, it's not one and done. It's not like, well, maybe once upon time there was an embryo who had to die for the greater good. No, this is like a perpetual motion machine.

You've got to keep harvesting. Yeah, every hundred days. This is not a hypothetical, by the way. Final Spark says the University of Michigan already using this neuroplatform. And this is, this is because. there's not enough energy and these these organoids use so much less energy that if we just harvest these embryos we can then AI can go on and live forever and we don't have energy problems. Good Lord, that's terrifying. Yeah, I mean, at a certain point, you've got to ask, you know,

if we were created in the image of God, how far can you stray from that before, before something really horrible happens? It's, none of this is a surprise. I mean, Nikola Tesla back when he was alive, that infamously said, you will live to see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension, and we're getting pretty close. Yeah, you have, um, you now have scientists, who don't necessarily believe in God, think that they are creating a God in AI, now harvesting God's creation to power their new God. Good Lord help us.

Yeah, and if you cross that Rubicon where you say, okay, we're going to turn these brain cells into cyborgs, into Frankenstein cells, then it's not very long before you say, like, well, gosh, why don't we just turn these brain cells? the whole human race into this kind of cyborg entity, you know? The Terminator, at least the machines are stomping around looking to wipe us out. These machines are going to look at us more as the solution than the problem because they just

suck all their energy out of us. You know, I was reading a book about energy and how all this is going. And it will. I mean, if it's an entity that needs food, needs energy to live, just like us, you're trapped in the mountains, you know, in snowstorm, and there's 20 of you, and you start dying, you're going to start eating each other. It's just you have to survive, and that is what happens. The same thing, it will eat whatever will give it the energy.

I'd rather not train it to eat people or anything with, to do with people. Well, especially when you got nuclear power there. And, you know, to their credit, there's some tech guys. out there who are working on advanced forms of nuclear power, clean energy coming out of things that you can do, splitting up atoms and the like. Yeah, there are risks there, but gosh, I mean, if we're going to go down this road to any degree where we're going to need significantly more energy in order to, you know, whether it's stay ahead of China or whatever excuse you want to come up with, or just, you know, for the for the sake of more human flourishing.

Imagine that. Gosh, you got to take a look at nuclear before you have to. You have to take a look at nuclear before you start looking at the guy sitting next to you as your source of energy. I saw a story yesterday about here in Idaho that they're shutting down the water on because of environmental reasons. They're shutting down the water for, I don't even remember, half a million acres or more of farmland here. They're just going to shut the water off. So all these farmers are going to lose their farmland. But coincidentally, what is also happening at exactly the same time is they are opening up cobalt mines in Idaho and these cobalt mines need tons of water to keep the drills cool and everything else and those are for batteries so it appears as if the state of

Idaho shafted the farmers and said forget about the food transfer the water to the cobalt mines so we can have batteries, that's more important. And nobody's tied these two together yet. We're in trouble. We've misplaced our values. It's a big problem. And you know what else is crazy about Idaho? Glenn? Right now, there's some Bitcoin mining going on in Idaho. Now, you know, a lot of people sort of don't understand how Bitcoin works. They're skeptical. But this is something that is still a first-rate technology that ordinary Americans can use starting right now. It takes a, you know, maybe a minute or two to learn how to do it, but you can do it. When the Bitcoin miners take the energy that they need in order to do what they do, legislators get upset. Oh, I don't know, this is

using a lot of energy. So they're looking at curbing the ability of the miners to use electricity or even charging them more for their electrical use. Meanwhile, when Facebook comes to town in Idaho, and they say, hey, we're building a gigantic data center. It's going to consume tons and tons of energy. The legislators say, well, if you're creating jobs, we'll actually give you a tax cut. This is how messed up our priorities are right now. I don't know if you saw the godfather of AI, but Jeffrey Hinton, he's the guy who left Google, if I remember right, and he left, he left Google because he said they were going into some unethical things and it was becoming a real danger. Do you remember this story? Yeah, that's right. Yeah. And he said,

He had real fear at Google that the that AI would fall into the hands of bad actors. He just did an interview where he said that he was asked the question here. If he was in favor of a super intelligent AI destroying humanity and replacing it with something objectively better in terms of consciousness, He said, I'm actually for it, but I think I'd be wiser for me to say that I'm against it. He was then pressed on and asked, can you elaborate? He said, well, people don't like being replaced. Well, yeah, no, I'm good.

He said it's not, it's, it's not clear that we're the best form of intelligence that there is. Obviously, from a person's perspective, everything relates to people. But it may be that there comes a point when we see things like humanist as a racist term. We're dealing with people who are very, very smart and very, very clever. But many of these people are anti-human and they hide behind the environmentalist thing to get away with it. It's really diabolical. I mean, if you're looking for an intelligence that's high. than human intelligence that actually doesn't want to kill us, but in fact loves us with a love beyond

human comprehension, it's right there in the form of God, the Creator. And if you reject the existence of God, then it's just really looking like these days only a matter of time before you reject the existence of human beings, too. I know it's not everyone. I know there's some atheists out there who think that human beings are still good, but it's looking like they're outnumbered and they're losing the battle for the soul of the atheist, if you will. I mean, these things are some of them they have really just and they think that intelligence is is more important than than love they think the the brain is more important than the heart and uh you know it all sounds interesting when it's at the level of theory but when you ask them to develop it out into practice

it means wiping them out so which which movie do you think is more likely i mean i never thought the matrix but the matrix you know batteries human batteries and it creating a utopia in people's minds or do you see us i mean remember the the beginning of uh sky net and the terminator the first line i think in that movie is the machines rose from the ashes in the nuclear fire and it was a i that had been used by the pentagon and the world's war machines and then we blew we blew ourselves up and a i decided we were the problem and started to wipe us out Here we are talking about the absolute unthinkable World War III, which would end in nuclear war and wipe almost all life off the planet. And we are giving the keys to much of our work.

We just had Jack Carr on yesterday where he was talking about, you know, he said, nobody would tell me exactly. But if I talk to enough people, they're putting it all together. And you can look at it and go, oh, we're turning the keys over. to our of our killing machines over to AI soon. That's not, that can't be a good thing. Which, which movie are we going towards? It's kind of like, you know, are we Brave New World or 1984? I think we're 1984.

Are we headed more towards the Terminator or the Matrix? Well, you know, we got lots of sci-fi movies to choose from. I would point toward, you know, we've got sci-fi horror films that we can look at, too. We got movies like Event Horizon. We got series like Hellraiser, where the bad guys are interdimensional demons who get summoned by human beings and lead them into hell. We've got, you know, David Kronenberg, videodrome, he's got other films, you know, that really show you that, yeah, there is, side of technology that makes you sort of fills you with childlike wonder and and all these promises of a flourishing beyond imagination well there's a

dark side too and if we pretend the dark side isn't there that's usually the the way that we get let astray in the worst possible way so is there anything that can be done going back to the first topic of using stem cells from embryos for human brains into these organoids is there is there anything that we should be looking towards or pushing for or what? Well, you know, I mean, I think number one, we got to ask ourselves some serious questions about if we are always looking to China. If we look at China and say, they're taking over, you know, we can't beat them unless we

join them or we have to fight fire with fire. If we are constantly comparing ourselves to what the Chinese are doing, we're going to lose touch with who we really are as Americans and depending on how things shake out, as human beings. That's point one. I think point two is, yeah, okay, you want to innovate on energy, look to nuclear. This is, this is not some bizarre new technology. It's been around for a long time. Some countries that, you know, the French, the Japanese, yeah, they had Fukushima, but they have tsunamis all the time. Not a problem in most of the United States. There are ways of doing plentiful energy that don't involve turning human beings into these sort of Frankenstein

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